The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - June 28, 2026


Carney's Scandals Catch Up With Him - Liberals try Distracting Canadians!

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Carney's flag renovation controversy 24 Sussex
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Pierre Poilievre Sussex Mark Carney Rob Breckenridge Stephen Harper Andrew Scheer Pierre Pauly David Cochran Greg Wycliffe Pauliev Blaine
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24 Sussex is a stupid media distraction. Prime Minister Mark Carney wants to renovate the Prime Minister's residence, and the media are covering it as a fight between the Tories and the Liberals. It's a distraction that deflects attention away from the real issues the country is going through right now.

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00:00:00 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here, and welcome back to the National Telegraph YouTube channel.
00:00:06 Have you ever seen a more obvious political operation than what is happening right now
00:00:12 with 24 Sussex? Prime Minister Mark Carney and the federal liberals are in big trouble
00:00:18 on multiple fronts. Food inflation sucks, the economy sucks, the developer bailout sucks, 0.99
00:00:25 and the alto high-speed rail project sucks and so what do the liberals want to talk about right now 1.00
00:00:31 well repairs to the prime minister's residence that's a stupid issue that they can deflect on 0.98
00:00:37 and of course the media is going along with it i want to start this video off with a segment from 0.91
00:00:44 the cbc to just show how obvious this whole thing is they are trying to manufacture a fight between
00:00:51 the conservatives and the liberals on something they're not actually fighting about because we
00:00:56 don't want to talk about the real issues the country is going through right now or the very
00:01:01 scandalous things that the liberals have been recently doing with the alto high-speed rail
00:01:06 project the nova scotia space launch pad and the vancouver developer bailout check out this segment
00:01:13 from the cvc with our favorite host david cochran prime minister mark carney lays out his reasoning
00:01:20 for renovating 24 Sussex Drive.
00:01:22 It is, of course, the Prime Minister's official residence,
00:01:24 but no Canadian leader has lived there since 2015.
00:01:28 Well, 24 Sussex is a symbol of the office it serves.
00:01:33 It must also be a home.
00:01:34 And the women and men who will lead our country in the future
00:01:37 will need a residence for their families.
00:01:41 I may not look like it, but my kids are already grown.
00:01:44 And I will never, in any event, live in 24 Sussex Drive.
00:01:50 In the end, I and all public officials are stewards of the offices we hold.
00:01:55 We don't own them.
00:01:57 We serve them to serve Canadians.
00:01:59 And we have a responsibility to leave things better than we found them.
00:02:04 Conservative leader Pierre Pallievos asked about this renovation idea yesterday
00:02:07 and what he thinks should happen to this heritage building.
00:02:11 You know, I just think when I go around this country
00:02:13 and I meet so many people who can't afford a place to live,
00:02:17 when I see the homelessness on our streets
00:02:19 and I see the young people who are desperate to start families but can't get a house to do it,
00:02:24 I just think the last thing on our minds should be 24 Sussex Drive.
00:02:29 By the way, that is not what Pierre Pauly have said.
00:02:32 They cut him out of context to make it sound like he went after Prime Minister Carney
00:02:37 for proposing to renovate 24 Sussex.
00:02:41 He doesn't care.
00:02:42 That's literally what he actually said at the beginning of the answer
00:02:46 that the CBC cut out of context. Because when you actually hear the question and then hear what
00:02:52 Pierre Pauly have said, it's very clear. He just said, I don't care about talking about 24 Sussex
00:02:57 right now. Let's talk about the real issues, not about what's going to happen with the prime
00:03:01 minister's residence. I myself think we, I don't care if Carney invests $70 million building
00:03:07 himself a cotton candy castle that he will live out of within the next year. I don't care if he
00:03:13 lives in it. I don't care how much he spends on it as long as we're not spending like a billion
00:03:17 dollars. Do whatever you want, man. And we go back to talking about the economy, talking about the
00:03:23 major projects, trying to get a pipeline built, reducing immigration further, trying to cut down
00:03:28 on taxes. How do we talk about that? But instead, we are talking about 24 Sussex because the prime
00:03:34 minister had a very staged press conference about it. And you could say all press conferences are
00:03:39 stage. I mean, this is something that should have been a press release. It should have just been
00:03:44 words on paper saying what he's planning on doing. And apparently we're going to do
00:03:48 some crowdfunding of 24 Sussex. And we're going to also solicit the public for ideas on ways
00:03:54 that it could be improved or rebuilt or renovated or whatever. It's obviously just a stupid media 1.00
00:04:01 distraction as if we're actually going to take some random person from the public's idea of what 0.98
00:04:07 24 Sussex should look like. And by the way, it actually is a good point that people made later.
00:04:11 Like, isn't that kind of like a major vector of corruption to have people donating to the
00:04:16 prime minister's residence, even if Carney's saying he's never going to live in it? But whatever.
00:04:21 I want to now get to the original clip of what Pierre Polyev actually said. But of course,
00:04:27 we will be having to go back to the media a few times here because they keep trying to manufacture
00:04:35 a fight between Carney and Polyev that is not happening on this issue is what do you think
00:04:41 should happen to 24 Sussex I really don't think about it at all that is basically the real answer
00:04:48 he goes on to only say we shouldn't be really talking about this right now because we have
00:04:52 more serious issues he's not saying don't fix up 24 Sussex he's saying that why are we putting so
00:04:58 much thought and energy in the public eye into what we're going to do with it just give this to
00:05:03 some random person in the prime minister's office to deal with figure it out man who cares here's a
00:05:09 here's a 70 million dollar budget figure out the renovations maybe rebuild the whole thing who
00:05:13 knows maybe build it up burn it down then build it up again let's talk about what normal people
00:05:18 are going through but i'm going to go back a bit and let the whole answer play out in its full
00:05:23 context now into 24 sussex i really don't think about it at all you know i just think when i go
00:05:30 around this country and i meet so many people who can't afford a place to live when i see the
00:05:35 homelessness on our streets and i see the young people who are desperate to start families but 0.96
00:05:39 can't get a house to do it i just think the last thing on our mind should be 24 sussex drive 0.98
00:05:49 see it has nothing to do with whether we should invest in fixing up or not if you actually sat
00:05:54 down and probably gave an in-depth answer on this you'd probably say yeah it's probably worth
00:05:58 fixing it up it is in disrepair apparently there's issues with rats and and moldy and
00:06:04 bold and whatnot and asbestos was in it or whatever sure it should be fixed up but the
00:06:10 fact the media is bringing it up at his press conference shows they just don't want to talk
00:06:15 about the actual rampant corruption and conflicts of interest and waste of money and crappy economy
00:06:21 that's in a recession right now that mark carney is overseeing they would rather talk about is is
00:06:27 pure poly of patriotic enough to support the repairs to 24 sussex i guess you got him guys i
00:06:36 guess he can't be prime minister anymore because he he didn't give like an emphatic oh i hope mark
00:06:41 carney makes the most beautiful building in the country type answer when asked here's sharon core
00:06:47 a uh liberal commentator who often appears on ctv news and cbc i think she's exclusively on one or
00:06:54 the other. I really don't care. But she says here, tagging him because it's so important.
00:07:00 Here, Polyevs lives in Stornoway, an official residence paid for by taxpayers, while attacking
00:07:05 the idea of 24 Sussex. If he truly believes these residences are inappropriate, there's an easy
00:07:11 solution. Move out. Until then, this is just performative hypocrisy. Performative. He didn't
00:07:17 want to answer the question because he doesn't care. He literally just says, I don't think about
00:07:21 it i don't think he didn't say burn the house down oh there should be burned down and cardi 0.96
00:07:27 should be inside of it while it's being like hit with a napalm bomb like that never happened he is 0.59
00:07:33 literally car polyev is doing the right thing but the media is trying to force into a fight anyway
00:07:38 so he has not made a mistake here but polyev when they start when the media starts trying to go to 0.97
00:07:42 a stupid topic it's like going limp it's like not letting them go on to the stupid topic and every 0.99
00:07:47 time they like try and push him he just kind of goes limp just kind of slouches over and does not 1.00
00:07:52 allow them to get him into this stupid topic this thing will burn itself out but this is such an 0.98
00:07:58 instructive example of what the liberals and what the liberal media does every time things get 0.99
00:08:03 serious oh let's let's uh talk about uh let's talk about uh 24 sussex let's talk about uh
00:08:08 let's talk about pride let's talk about uh fifa let's talk about fifa uh yeah yeah we have a 90
00:08:14 billion train nobody wants that has massive conflicts of interest with our finance minister
00:08:18 as well as probably other connected liberal contractors who donate a lot oh yes there is
00:08:24 the developer bailout but uh what do you think about 24 sussex do you think you should have a
00:08:30 pool in the back how big should the bathtub be in the guest house how big it's like stop it guys
00:08:35 i don't care uh here's another one this james christian parsons says and there we have it folks 0.97
00:08:43 the pathetic whole whole pusillanimous like oh my goodness you take the dictionary out of your hand 1.00
00:08:50 right now sir this pathetic pusillanimous attitude that has reduced 24 sex uh sussex to a vermin 1.00
00:08:58 infested ruin over several decades shameful oh yes here polyev has been the one blocking 24 sussex 0.99
00:09:06 from being fixed. His pusillanimous attitude is what is causing this mess right now. 0.68
00:09:14 If you actually think about it, Polyev not caring enough about 24 Sussex, that's actually what
00:09:24 spawned rats. Rats are only walking this earth because pure Polyev does not care about 24 Sussex
00:09:30 enough it's so dumb it's so dumb and i know back when trudeau first got brought in there was this 0.99
00:09:39 like very small media controversy he's like oh it's 24 sussex not good enough for him because 0.99
00:09:44 he didn't want to move into it because there's repair issues that was stupid it also lasted five 0.79
00:09:48 seconds but the media is trying to pretend that's currently going on right now with pure polyev
00:09:52 when i'm pretty sure people from both parties since 2015 have all vocalized yeah they should
00:09:57 probably repair it and now carney's only doing it this moment because he wants to like i guess like
00:10:04 he wants i guess he wants to get the attention off him and again i have to go back to this guy
00:10:08 using the word pusillanimous like he's a character from lost in space here scott reed says chronically
00:10:16 unable to reach past the pinched partisan take if peer poly of feels renovating of 24 sussex
00:10:22 is such an insult. 0.99
00:10:24 Let him haul his butt out of Stornoway tomorrow. 0.98
00:10:27 Carney has pulled a page from Pearson
00:10:29 in the flag design competition in the 1960s.
00:10:32 In time, it will be celebrated.
00:10:34 Actually, nobody liked the flag design thing
00:10:37 that Pearson did because they didn't even pick the flag
00:10:40 that was actually the most popular flag among them.
00:10:43 The red maple leaf, I'm fine with it,
00:10:45 but there was that tricolor white, red, and blue flag
00:10:52 with the two blue bars on the sides and the triple maple leaf in the middle.
00:10:57 That was the one who actually won all the popularity polls, and then they just ditched it.
00:11:01 Again, I really doubt Bernie's actually going to let members of the public have
00:11:06 a heavy impact on the renovations that are going to take place.
00:11:10 Even people who consider themselves conservatives here, like Blaine Baddock,
00:11:15 got easily taken in by this fake controversy.
00:11:18 Blaine says, a conservative vision for our future that does not build on our legacy,
00:11:23 respect our traditions, and honor what's beautiful and right is not a conservative vision.
00:11:27 24-6 is an international embarrassment.
00:11:31 We owe it to future Canadians to restore this historical site.
00:11:35 By the way, I think we should probably fix it up too, rebuild it, do whatever you want with it. 0.79
00:11:39 The idea it's an international embarrassment is kind of silly.
00:11:43 I don't think anyone outside of Canada even really knows about it.
00:11:47 And frankly, probably less than 10% of Canadians are really aware of what's going on with 24 Sussex day to day.
00:11:55 But this whole thing is just it's just lame.
00:11:58 It's so lame that we're talking about this and we all know why we're talking about it.
00:12:03 But we're going to continue talking about it as if we all don't know it's a distraction.
00:12:07 It's the whole like they know they're lying.
00:12:11 We know or yeah, they know they're lying.
00:12:13 We know they're lying.
00:12:14 They know we know they're lying.
00:12:15 except in this case they're trying to distract us we know they're trying to distract us they know
00:12:20 that we know that they're trying to distract us and yet they are still trying to distract us with
00:12:23 this lame thing news you're going to be crowdfunding to restore one of the most famous
00:12:28 addresses in the country what conversations did you have about what could go wrong i'm thinking
00:12:33 possible foreign influence perceptions that wealthy donors could be occurring favors to the government
00:12:38 and how specifically do you plan to address that will you make the list of donors public will you
00:12:43 put limits yeah great thank you for the question um uh first uh let me go through a few uh the list
00:12:49 of donors will be public uh there will be a limit uh the limit will be well the real hall foundation
00:12:56 will make the final we'll make this public but uh the thinking is the limit would be 10 percent of
00:13:01 the overall amount raised or a specific cap uh individuals and philanthropic organizations no
00:13:07 corporate donations. As I said earlier, in French, the way the process is designed is
00:13:15 we have the Rideau Hall Foundation overseeing the fundraising, no influence at all on the decisions,
00:13:25 decisions made by the experts in terms of what is the right design that balances all those various
00:13:31 uh factors um and uh and obviously ultimately and and a transparency did i mention publication of
00:13:38 all the donors etc he didn't mention that already before it still is a massive vector of corruption
00:13:45 just because the names are public doesn't mean that it's still not kind of shady that someone
00:13:51 could potentially give you what is 10 of the value of the construction which in theory could be like
00:13:57 a million dollars or more considering how much oftentimes it would cost to build something like
00:14:03 this with all the extra security features that are needed and you know just the fact that you're
00:14:09 going to try and like build it in the most grand style possible which absolutely they should do
00:14:15 it's the prime minister's residence fair enough but like this is going to be a problem we already
00:14:20 have problems with developers in vancouver holding fundraising events with the prime minister for his
00:14:26 party and you can say, well, they can only donate up to $1,750. Yeah, but those developers and their
00:14:32 family members and their contractors can all show up and all give you a massive donation. You can
00:14:38 raise hundreds of thousands of dollars in a single night just because the dollar value is low doesn't
00:14:42 mean that the value of those dollars when it comes to political campaigning are not very, very high.
00:14:47 That's the funny thing is that money in politics or taking money out of politics or reducing the
00:14:53 amount really doesn't do anything because everything's relative. $1,000 is worth like
00:14:59 in Canadian political donations what like $5,000 or $10,000 would be in the United States. Just
00:15:06 because you remove the cap, it just means that the dollar values are just kind of relative to
00:15:12 how much everyone else is currently spending. But yeah, that probably is one real problem with this
00:15:18 potential project. But now I need to move on to another CBC segment where they were also talking
00:15:25 about it. I believe this is Rob Breckenridge on CBC as a guest, talking about how somehow
00:15:31 Polyev is lacking in patriotism or too partisan or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Really, we want 1.00
00:15:38 to just jaw jack and wave our gums about something that is something that Carney is currently messing
00:15:43 up which means like this is the only thing we can talk about because this is like the only thing
00:15:48 that is currently not going badly minus half of the immigration issue i would that's the one thing
00:15:54 i give the liberals credit for half of the immigration issue has been solved there's still
00:15:58 another half where prs are still too high certain other elements of immigration are too high we're
00:16:03 not deporting people over staying visas uh i that's just my one thing to demonstrate i'm not
00:16:08 like a partisan hack. I actually can give the liberals credit on certain things, but for the
00:16:13 most part, really not that much good to talk about. And plus, the liberal base is really not
00:16:18 the type of people who actually celebrate reducing immigration. So right now, in a lot of ways,
00:16:23 the liberals have no achievements. Not surprisingly, of course, the leader of the opposition has come
00:16:28 out being critical of this decision, saying that this is the last thing on Canadians' minds. There's
00:16:33 been concerns around affordability. What do you make of that argument? Well, it's interesting
00:16:39 the contrast between what Pierre Paliyev said and actually what Stephen Harper said, a statement
00:16:44 from Stephen Harper applauding the Prime Minister for finally taking action on this. So, you know,
00:16:50 for Pierre Paliyev and I guess also Andrew Scheer previously, who both lived at Stornoway, it's
00:16:55 kind of curious to see them, you know, hammering the Prime Minister over wanting... Hammering him
00:16:59 how? Hammering them how? Actually, Rob hosts a political show every day. Can Rob and these
00:17:07 other two bald men, I'm not sure if they all said the same stupid thing. I'm going to guess they 1.00
00:17:11 did. It is the CBC. Can they cite me a quote where Pauliev or Scheer or anyone else hammered
00:17:19 the prime minister over this? I know they're all subsidized media hacks and they're basically paid
00:17:25 to lie here, but can we at least lie a bit better? Can we at least misquote him a bit? There's not
00:17:31 even the attempt to manufacture a quote from Pierre Polyev. They're just simply telling the
00:17:36 audience, wow, if you really think about it, Pierre Polyev hates the country because he doesn't want
00:17:42 to talk about 24 Sussex instead of all the things that are wrong that he's supposed to be opposing
00:17:47 as opposition leader. What a concept. Opposition leader doesn't want to talk about stupid fluff
00:17:52 issues. He wants to talk about things he has a problem with. To fix this prime minister's 1.00
00:17:57 residence. And, you know, for the conservatives who have sort of taken up this mantle of this
00:18:01 cause of preserving Canadian history and why are we toppling or taking down these statues and
00:18:05 all of this history matters. I mean, this seemed like a real opportunity for them
00:18:09 to sort of lead the charge on that. How do you lead the charge on 24 Sussex as the opposition?
00:18:16 he's gonna do the job good and he's like saying well you know if they if they're the ones arguing
00:18:23 against taking down uh statues of of ryerson and johnny mcdonald and not renaming things well
00:18:30 shouldn't they be plotting the prime minister if you're convinced by this you're just hand back in
00:18:36 your high school diploma and we're going to ritualistically burn it in front of you because
00:18:40 you have failed at just basic logic and thought to actually think that this is something that
00:18:46 the conservatives are hammering on do you it would be it would be political malpractice
00:18:52 for the conservatives to oppose this they're not opposing it because not only are they not 0.98
00:18:55 politically stupid but they also just don't care that's the thing we are manufacturing a non-quote 0.95
00:19:04 from poly of other media people are rob breckenridge isn't even like he's too lazy to even 1.00
00:19:09 and try and take Polly out of context.
00:19:11 She's just simply asserting that he's opposed it.
00:19:14 But even the other media,
00:19:16 we're basically freaking out over Polly
00:19:17 saying, I just don't want to talk about this right now. 0.98
00:19:21 Apparently, this means we must now burn him like a witch. 0.98
00:19:24 It's part of it, too. 0.98
00:19:25 And this does matter, and it should matter.
00:19:28 And it's unfortunate that it got to this point
00:19:30 where it's just such a mess.
00:19:32 And unfortunately, it is going to cost a lot to fix this.
00:19:36 And by the way,
00:19:36 is this a big topic on Rob Breckenridge's show that nobody listens to? Is this a big thing that
00:19:44 he does? I guarantee you he does not bring up 24 Sussex ever. Probably the last time he brought it
00:19:51 up was when it was briefly a controversy back in like 2016, 2015, 2016. Since then, I guarantee
00:19:57 he has only brought it up maybe one time in passing, but he's pretending like, oh my goodness,
00:20:02 Why are the conservatives not joining together in honoring 24 Sussex?
00:20:08 Oh, he lives in Stornoway.
00:20:10 I can't believe him.
00:20:11 Polyev's not standing in anyone's way here.
00:20:14 He hasn't even made it to smallest critique.
00:20:18 He's only critiquing the media, bringing up a topic that distracts from real issues.
00:20:24 You know, Polyev is right.
00:20:26 You know, people are struggling to buy food, to pay for their rent, their mortgage, to put their kids through school.
00:20:33 They can't even put their kids in hockey anymore because it's too expensive.
00:20:36 And we're going to waste time talking about 24 Sussex.
00:20:43 The prime minister can release a press release about it.
00:20:46 Just say, I'm going to be putting together this amount of money and I'm going to fix that.
00:20:51 I think everyone will be like, OK, sure, good, whatever.
00:20:52 $50 million, $100 million. I don't care how much it costs. Whatever. Do it. Because it's going to
00:20:57 have a helipad, too. We're going to make it out of candy. Fair enough. Now, can we get back to
00:21:04 real issues? But this is a great example of the liberal media being effectively just a branch of
00:21:13 the liberal party, which is why I call them the liberal media. The media should be... If this
00:21:19 takes a segment. It should have been a news report segment where it's not having panels of people on
00:21:26 to talk about it. Maybe have one person come on, an architecture expert, come on and talk about
00:21:31 what he thinks should happen with it. How long has it been in disrepair? This requires maybe a
00:21:36 five-minute segment where they just talk about some of the issues around it, what the prime
00:21:40 minister is doing, and then moving on. We've turned it into multiple panel shows on just one
00:21:45 of the outlets already. The other outlets have probably done it too, trying to make this a
00:21:50 controversy because this being a dumb controversy gets people distracted away from the real 0.96
00:21:57 controversies. But what do I know? I'm not a professional journalist. Anyways, with all that 0.95
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00:23:28 hour they've gotten like 15,000 views and it's literally on the same topic that I did I was out
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00:23:42 on the issue. I talked more about the actual reasons why it matters and not just the surface
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00:24:15 of time it was like really easy sometimes i'll even have a great month where it just seems very
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