The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - May 01, 2026


Carney UPSET as Conservatives negotiate with Trump FOR HIM!


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Wyatt Clunis talks about Conservative MP Jamil Javani's trip to Washington and why it's a smart political move. He also talks about why the Tories should go down to the U.S. to try and get a deal with President Trump.

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here and welcome back to the National Telegraph YouTube channel.
00:00:06.260 So it appears that the evening of Mark Carney's lunch on U.S. trade will continue with the
00:00:11.940 conservatives saying that, well, if Carney's not going to negotiate, why don't we go down to the
00:00:16.940 U.S. and negotiate for him? A very smart political move since Mark Carney has been so flat-footed
00:00:23.480 on this front. Now we also have Donald Trump saying that he is going to approve with a
00:00:28.460 presidential permit, a Keystone XL pipeline down to Wyoming, and now the ball is back in Mark Carney's
00:00:35.060 court to decide if he actually wants to work with the United States or not. He's in a very awkward
00:00:40.380 position because while the business liberals in his base want to deal with the U.S., the bigger
00:00:45.320 faction of the elbows-up liberals do not want to deal with the U.S., and now Mark Carney is stuck
00:00:51.440 between a rock and a pure poly of place. But in just a second here, I want to get into this story.
00:00:57.260 We're not going to do the intros like I normally do.
00:00:59.560 I'm trying to be faster these days.
00:01:01.440 But as we can see here, the CBC headline on this story is trying to give a little bit of some oomph to Mark Carney's statements.
00:01:08.820 And the headline here says, Carney says there's only one negotiator with the U.S. after conservative MP's latest trip to Washington.
00:01:16.200 Subhead reads, Jamil Javani returned to the U.S. Capitol this week to carry the conservative party's Team Canada message.
00:01:23.340 I thought the liberals wanted the conservatives to be cooperative.
00:01:27.760 That's why I've been hearing from the liberals and the liberal media.
00:01:31.060 Why doesn't Pierre Polyev and the conservatives help Mark Carney rather than resisting him?
00:01:36.900 And now that they're helping him, they're like, not that way, not that way.
00:01:39.860 Please just say nothing and let us do whatever we want with no criticism.
00:01:45.300 That's always been the liberal and the liberal media's goal.
00:01:47.840 Get the conservatives baited into not criticizing. 0.94
00:01:50.820 So if the Conservatives are going to help Carney, they're going to help him by making him look dumb by doing his job for him. 0.74
00:01:59.480 And that's obviously not what Carney wanted in this situation.
00:02:02.780 Now, I just want to get to Conservative Party leader Pierre Polyev's statements on this issue.
00:02:07.560 I honestly think this has been a major coup, not just for Pierre Polyev, but for MP Jamil Giovanni,
00:02:14.580 who in Oshawa, remember the MP from Oshawa, Bowenville, he went down to the US a couple
00:02:21.300 months ago and was excoriated for it from everybody, with Paulyev at the time even
00:02:26.300 somewhat making dismissive comments about what Jamil had done. And I think that Pierre has now
00:02:31.620 seen the light of, okay, yeah, people are going to criticize us for being too friendly with the
00:02:36.300 Trump administration. That's a short run liberal media concoction. But if we keep going down and
00:02:43.360 we keep being positive and we keep trying to get a deal done eventually we're going to have to bait
00:02:48.440 the liberals into either acting or exposing the fact that they never wanted to get a deal so you
00:02:54.220 know i think the latter is more likely there but here's peer polly's comments to the media outside
00:02:59.360 of parliament from from yesterday will mr giovanni while he's in washington be meeting with the vice
00:03:05.300 president or any other trump administration officials and what's the point of your mps
00:03:08.600 I don't have any information on that, but I do at this point to share.
00:03:13.640 But I can tell you that our MPs have been consistently going to Washington in order to fight for tariff-free trade.
00:03:20.640 There have been, I'm guessing, about a dozen delegations of MPs over the last couple of years.
00:03:26.580 And we're going to continue to fight for jobs.
00:03:29.200 So what's the point?
00:03:29.860 Obviously, the point is to fight for the auto workers, steel workers, aluminum workers, forestry workers who Mark Carney has abandoned after he promised he'd have a deal by July 21st.
00:03:40.240 Still no deal. Still no wins. The tariffs have doubled and broadened.
00:03:45.380 And Mark Carney has delivered absolutely nothing. So we're going to keep fighting for jobs.
00:03:49.560 Perfect way of framing it. Basically, the whole idea is that we're fighting and he isn't.
00:03:55.360 And by the way, Carney has no leg to stand on by pretending that this is not okay for an MP like Jamil Giovanni or any other conservative MP, NDP, or block MPs to do it, even if Elizabeth May did it.
00:04:06.140 He couldn't criticize that, because he's been totally fine to give the nod to premiers to go down there and speak.
00:04:13.740 Well, they're not in charge of Canada's, like, trade policy. Yeah, they're not.
00:04:17.720 But he was OK with them doing it. But your opposition isn't allowed to do it when they're doing it for on like purely friendly reasons, trying to get a deal done with the Americans. Isn't that what you want, Mr. Carney? Well, apparently not. He's very sour about the whole thing.
00:04:32.540 And now I want to jump over to his press conference when a journalist asked him this question wearing.
00:04:38.220 And I'm not just meaning that I don't really have a, you know, a dog in the fight in terms of in terms of hockey.
00:04:44.200 But he's just wearing this atrocious Edmonton Oilers tie.
00:04:48.760 You know, I sometimes know what guys I sometimes criticize Pierre Polyev.
00:04:53.140 I do actually criticize him a lot for wearing his Dark Navy suits and Dark Navy tie.
00:04:58.900 And don't think I didn't notice that that is exactly what Pierre Polyev was wearing in that clip I just played.
00:05:04.700 Sir, buy a dark brown tie.
00:05:07.340 Brown likes blue. 0.59
00:05:09.320 Navy blue, white shirt, dark brown tie.
00:05:12.520 You can even wear a light blue shirt.
00:05:15.180 Shoot, what am I doing?
00:05:16.680 Light blue shirt. 0.89
00:05:18.140 A cream colored shirt.
00:05:19.240 Try it out. It's great.
00:05:20.340 But this Edmonton Oilers tie almost makes me forgive Pierre Polyev.
00:05:25.640 I don't forgive him.
00:05:26.520 He needs to wear a brown tie.
00:05:27.640 he needs to change up the outfits a bit but my goodness never wear a sports team tie
00:05:31.960 especially as prime minister anyways getting into this clip uh sharif hassan from the canadian press
00:05:37.560 yes um my question is that conservative do you think that the conservative diplomatic missions
00:05:44.200 to washington dc help or hurt your government's efforts as you are negotiating with americans
00:05:51.880 well i look it's uh we're both free countries so uh people can go uh where uh where they wish um
00:06:00.520 already turning into an um and ah shotgun once again whenever he starts umming and i it's because
00:06:06.360 it's a topic he is uncomfortable uncomfortable with he's lying or he knows he's been outplayed
00:06:12.600 and he's trying to recover this is one of those i'd say option door number three moments he knows
00:06:18.440 that he's flat-footed on trade. He knows that Donald Trump's already going to Canadian aluminum
00:06:22.920 and steel companies directly and negotiate with them instead of him. The conservatives are now
00:06:27.160 negotiating for him down in Washington because he won't do it himself. And Trump just approved
00:06:33.080 a pipeline, a new Keystone XL pipeline to Wyoming, that Carney probably doesn't want to actually
00:06:39.060 approve. Because if he does, he's saying that we need to trade more with the Americans and he
00:06:42.980 doesn't want to admit that and well it kind of makes it you know this is all a trump thing and
00:06:49.680 now the ball's in his court and he doesn't want to make himself look bad in front of the elbows up
00:06:53.520 people uh the any information that's i it has not been our experience that people have gone
00:07:03.700 to washington and have learned anything new um uh nor has it uh been that they have uh learned
00:07:11.520 everything uh that is uh either being discussed on the table uh or where the negotiations are in
00:07:18.120 the end wasn't he supposed to tell us where the negotiations are you can't say there's like fog
00:07:23.400 of war so you can't go down there and talk to them because you don't know what's going going on
00:07:27.340 well you promised to tell us what's been going on so it's actually your fault if jamil goes down
00:07:32.480 there and doesn't have all the information at his fingertips understand where the negotiations were
00:07:37.340 at. And by the way, the Americans exposed where the negotiations were at. They've been stalled
00:07:42.040 since October. And him going down there and being like, oh, well, it's not our experience that by
00:07:47.100 going down to Washington, you learn anything new. What a high handed moron. Oh, well, it's been my 1.00
00:07:54.940 experience talking to the Americans doesn't give you any more information. Okay, okay, sure, dude,
00:08:01.620 whatever. It's almost like you haven't been engaging in negotiations and you keep going
00:08:06.500 down there and basically saying I want no tariffs I will give you nothing in exchange and it turns
00:08:11.980 out the Americans won't budge on that because who would and then you end up going there and
00:08:17.240 learning nothing new because you're not feeding anything new into the system you need to add
00:08:22.760 information into the system if you want to pop out an answer or at least new information that
00:08:27.960 you did not have before and the conservatives are doing that in the end there's one negotiator
00:08:33.860 uh for the country for canada and that is the either being discussed on the table uh or where
00:08:39.880 the negotiations are in the end in the end there's one negotiator uh for the country for canada and
00:08:45.880 that is the government of canada our uh interlocutors in the united states are uh are generous
00:08:52.280 people they're generous with their time uh and it's good of them to meet uh and they've been
00:08:57.100 saying to the public to the world that you are a waste of their time they'd rather go talk to
00:09:03.700 Gloria Scheinbaum and the Mexicans, then talk to the Canadians because your negotiators are not
00:09:09.660 actually qualified, are not qualified. Maybe they are, maybe they're not. They're not authorized 0.92
00:09:15.660 to negotiate. They've been saying every time things like supply management come up, anytime
00:09:21.140 other trade restrictions in Canada pop up, and the Americans are saying, maybe you can loosen those,
00:09:26.720 maybe you can eliminate that, immediately the whole conversation shuts down and we can't talk
00:09:30.620 about anymore it's like oh wow so we're trying to negotiate with people who have very rigid red
00:09:35.940 lines around what they're allowed to talk about what they're not allowed to talk about it almost
00:09:39.480 sounds like this is unworkable a host of canadians coming down but in the end uh they know and we
00:09:45.900 know that we're the negotiators um so thank you yeah it sounds like that's the problem they know 0.98
00:09:53.080 you're the negotiator and you are basically sitting on your butt hoping that trump will 0.87
00:09:57.980 panic close to the midterms and just sign whatever you want and that's why he is now again eating 0.96
00:10:03.480 your lunch and going directly to Canadian steel and aluminum manufacturers like you know mining
00:10:09.920 companies you know places making steel products whatnot and instead what they are doing is saying
00:10:17.840 I will or what he's doing he's saying going to them and saying I will take the tariffs off of
00:10:21.720 your company your current company can get a special designation do not have to pay the tariffs but you
00:10:26.860 have to propose a plan to make your next investment, your next expansion of your company
00:10:31.260 into the U.S. Sounds like a better deal than whatever Carney's trying to secure because the
00:10:36.560 deal he's trying to secure sounds like it's nothing because his elbows up crew will not let
00:10:41.560 him do it. And look at that face on Carney. He really does not like this topic because he is,
00:10:47.340 again, stuck between a rock and a hard place. If he signs a deal, he makes the business liberals
00:10:51.800 in his base happy while ticking off the two thirds of liberals who I would classify as elbows
00:10:56.760 up so to please the one-third you have to tick off the two-thirds and to tick off the two-third or to
00:11:01.960 please the two-thirds by just explicitly saying i'm going to kind of get a deal with the americans
00:11:05.880 you tick off the one-third and they go vote conservative if he ticks off the two-thirds
00:11:10.280 there's a chance that those elbows up voters might go towards avi lewis and the ndp not all of them
00:11:15.480 but you're going to lose a significant portion of those people back to the ndp we'll have time for
00:11:19.720 last question then another french question i'm i'm a anti-french bigot and i don't like hearing
00:11:27.960 french questions because i do not speak french which means i'm not actually a bigot i'm just
00:11:32.520 lazy you know what i actually in this video i do want to bring up something that i'm not going to
00:11:39.800 play all this but i do just want to put a highlight on something good that the cbc did recently this
00:11:45.880 This has nothing to do with the topic on trade, but I do need to give a shout out.
00:11:51.680 I don't know who this guy is.
00:11:53.280 Maybe he'll say his name at the start here.
00:11:54.820 But the CBC actually put out a 14-minute kind of mini-doc on why the new Kearney Sovereign
00:12:03.200 Wealth Fund, the Canada Strong Fund, doesn't make any sense.
00:12:07.020 This guy is like, you know Jason Jacques, who was the interim parliamentary budget officer?
00:12:12.320 this guy at the CBC must be breaking into the building in the middle of the night and making
00:12:18.040 this reasonable content because it's oddly reasonable for the CBC. Jason Jocks was at a
00:12:23.460 great PBO and they replaced him with someone terrible. This guy is like Jason Jocks at the
00:12:28.000 CBC. It's like incredibly even-handed the content that he puts out and I actually will link this
00:12:34.400 video. Oddly enough it's a CBC video but I will be linking it in the description below because he
00:12:38.900 does a good job of explaining why the canada strong fund doesn't make sense i'll just play the
00:12:44.420 first 30 seconds so look the government can call this almost whatever it wants a new pillar of our
00:12:50.420 plan the canada strong fund just don't call it a sovereign wealth fund okay but i'm just wondering
00:12:59.680 where's the wealth and who's funding it the way sovereign wealth funds traditionally work is you
00:13:05.920 start with a giant government piggy bank and not only do you stuff it full of coins and cash and
00:13:11.360 oil profits you also plug it right into the stock market you invest that money rather than just
00:13:18.040 finding new and imaginative ways to spend that money as governments offer you this the canadian
00:13:23.360 government is fully aware is how norway does it many countries that are blessed with natural
00:13:28.200 resources like norway have sovereign wealth funds now i'm just going to cut it off right there but
00:13:33.640 But what he then gets into is talking about how this entire new Canada Strong Fund, that
00:13:39.220 supposedly sovereign wealth fund, is being funded by debt, you know, money we do not
00:13:45.900 have that we will pay interest on for borrowing.
00:13:48.840 And we are then going to try and grow that money into a significant, you know, into a
00:13:54.960 significant investment fund for Canada over the long haul.
00:13:59.220 We haven't even cleaned up our own deficit and debt issues.
00:14:01.740 But now we are going to start our own sovereign wealth fund, purely funded through debt.
00:14:06.740 Great video from the CBC. I can't believe I'm saying it.
00:14:10.000 That man is now the Jason Jocks of the CBC, and we all need to take bets on when or where he's going to get thrown out of a window by Rosemary Barton.
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