The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - April 03, 2026


Caroline Elliott EXPOSED as Liberal in BC Conservative leadership race!


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Caroline Elliott is a liberal. She was the vice president of the BC Liberal Party, and then it later changed its name to BC United, which was a party that was pro-SOGI, pro-DRIPA, and pro-Safe Supply. She even defended SOGI and Safe Supply herself, although at the same time she was in a leadership position of a pro-drip party. But that's another story for another day.

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here, and welcome back to the National Telegraph YouTube channel.
00:00:06.220 I need to quickly tell you guys about the funniest thing currently happening in British Columbia
00:00:11.600 politics right now, and that is the campaign implosion of BC Conservative leadership candidate
00:00:18.080 Caroline Elliott. Caroline Elliott is a liberal. I have been saying this for months. She was the
00:00:24.740 vice president of the BC Liberal Party, and then it later changed its name to BC United, which
00:00:30.340 supposedly was also her idea, and then the party died before the 2024 election even happened.
00:00:37.120 She was the vice president of a party that was pro-SOGI, pro-DRIPA, pro-Safe Supply. She in fact
00:00:43.360 even defended SOGI and Safe Supply herself. She'll pretend she was never in favor of DRIPA,
00:00:48.280 although again, you can't claim that while at the same time you were in a leadership position of a
00:00:53.220 pro-drip a party, but that's another story for another day. It should have been obvious from
00:00:58.060 the beginning this lady was a liberal. Her entire campaign is festooned with high-paid campaign
00:01:05.100 mercenaries who are trying to astroturf her as some conservative maverick. She's pretending that
00:01:10.180 she's always been standing up to the land issues. She hasn't. She wrote some tepid articles for the
00:01:14.740 Hub a couple of years ago. She's not exactly been on top of this issue, especially when compared to
00:01:20.160 my boss, Dallas Brody, at the 1BC party. And full disclosure, Dallas Brody ended up endorsing
00:01:26.260 Uri Falmer for the BC Conservative leadership. And that's not because 1BC is going away. Quite
00:01:31.080 the contrary. 1BC is here to stay. And we signed a deal with Uri Falmer because Dallas was
00:01:37.540 guaranteeing that 1BC would have five seats in the legislature after the next election in order to
00:01:43.980 hold a BC conservative minority government accountable. It's a great deal. And if Yuri
00:01:50.060 wins, fantastic. And if he doesn't win, 1BC is just going to keep hard charging the way we already
00:01:55.040 are. Anyways, but Caroline Elliott ended up skipping out on a debate recently, which just
00:02:02.820 kind of proved the fact that she absolutely cannot actually defend the positions she claims to hold
00:02:09.000 right now. Because if you actually look at her record, it's so obvious that she's not actually
00:02:13.300 conservative. So I ended up posting this yesterday that kind of opened up the floodgates. I said,
00:02:19.540 Caroline Elliott seems to no longer be doing the Juno News debate. She has an event in Kelowna
00:02:25.280 booked at the same time as the debate. I heard if Milibar didn't go, she would use that as an
00:02:30.480 excuse to duck out herself. You know, Uri Falmer never got cold feet. So she ended up yesterday
00:02:37.560 posting that she was going to have an event in Kelowna
00:02:40.880 at 6 p.m. on April 8th.
00:02:43.960 Now, the Juno News debate
00:02:45.220 that was scheduled more than a month ago
00:02:48.060 that she claimed that she was going to
00:02:50.240 was scheduled on April 8th,
00:02:52.680 starting at 6.30 p.m., going to 9 p.m.
00:02:55.940 Um, so what?
00:02:58.980 This is so clearly a dodge.
00:03:01.760 And the thing is that her campaign team,
00:03:03.980 rather than just basically acknowledging
00:03:05.760 that she's not made for TV right now. She's not a very good public speaker. She's not very
00:03:10.660 conservative and doesn't want people challenging her. Instead, started trying to blame Kian Bexty
00:03:15.920 and Juno News for all of this. Caroline Elliott's polling hack, who's a complete moron, by the way,
00:03:21.680 charged for breaking and entering into a restaurant at one point to get alcohol after
00:03:26.020 clothes, Nick Kouvalas, started getting into a long-winded argument with Kian Bexty claiming
00:03:32.380 that he was lying and manipulating and all this stuff. Guys, this debate was probably tailor-made
00:03:38.560 for Caroline Elliott. I don't mean like literally Juno was trying to make her look good in this
00:03:43.160 debate or something like that, but the debate moderators were Lindsay Shepard, who I believe
00:03:47.060 is pretty friendly with Caroline, not like their allies or something like that, but it's not
00:03:50.920 somebody that Caroline would be like worried was going to try and knife her for no reason.
00:03:55.420 Aaron Gunn was going to be a moderator at that debate, and he still is. This debate's still
00:04:00.560 going forward. Aaron Gunn even previously attacked Uri Falmer for something during this campaign.
00:04:06.460 But Caroline's cowardice of pulling out of this debate has been so bad that even Aaron Gunn and
00:04:11.180 Uri Falmer have seemingly made up by Aaron Gunn congratulating Uri for being one of the candidates
00:04:16.420 who's actually going to still be showing up. In fact, Peter Milibar may actually now show up to
00:04:21.700 this event just to basically mock Caroline Elliott's refusal to actually stand in front of voters. So
00:04:27.960 Now, this is what I had originally posted. I later confirmed that, yes, she had just posted about this at the time I posted this. She had only posted about this event for the first time, like, two hours ago when I made that post. Like, there was no way they didn't know that this was overlapping with the debate.
00:04:48.540 And it seems like they didn't even tell Kian Bexty, as he commented on my post and says, drama, this is hard to believe. They have spent $5,000 on tickets to book out the theater. They must have lots of donor cash to spend. Weird, in Alberta, that would be considered wasteful.
00:05:06.460 And so what eventually came out is not only was Caroline Elliott probably never planning on attending this debate, her campaign team attempted to buy up all the seats at the auditorium so that if it did go forward, it would be an empty room.
00:05:21.340 what a bunch of horrible human beings like this is where i've gone from feeling like is caroline
00:05:28.920 elliott kind of being used by these campaign this campaign team she's being forced to be a trojan
00:05:33.840 horse for kevin falcon and uh gordon campbell and all the old bc liberals and then i see them doing
00:05:40.620 stuff like this and you're like she knows they did that a hundred percent they know that they
00:05:44.900 were going to buy up all the tickets to the theater and and the moment that they actually
00:05:48.520 started trying to pull out of the debate was apparently when kian bexty and juno saw oh wow
00:05:53.640 you bought up all the tickets to the theater let's get a bigger theater so more people can come and
00:05:58.020 not just your own campaign people and then they started trying to reschedule so i want to show
00:06:03.720 you guys some stuff that ended up happening yesterday because we ended up having again
00:06:09.320 nick cuvales trying to attack uh trying to attack kian bexty here so he goes on this long-winded
00:06:18.520 a rant about how basically Kian Bextie wasn't accommodating the the requests of the Caroline
00:06:24.680 Elliott campaign which is patently insane but I'll just start you off kind of mid argument right
00:06:29.320 here uh but Nick Kuvalis right here says Anthony Koch is our director of communications and observing
00:06:36.520 Passover right now it's a major Jewish holiday but by the way uh just so anyone if anyone doesn't
00:06:41.960 know Anthony Koch is one of the scumbags who ended up smearing Dallas Brody when she was kicked out
00:06:48.200 of the B.C. Conservative Party in March 2025, claiming she was mocking victims of molestation,
00:06:54.440 which she was not. He helped take her out of context in a video, a four-second video,
00:06:59.600 to pretend that she was mocking people who were victims of crimes when she wasn't.
00:07:03.500 So later on in this thread of discussions, he says, Anthony Koch doesn't lie. Yes, he does.
00:07:11.120 He's an overpaid liar. Here we go. Nick Kuvalis then says, he'll return before Sunday and will
00:07:17.920 address what you've stated below. His version is very different from yours. Regardless, this
00:07:23.960 campaign dealt with Juno professionally, and has explained her position to the members of the party
00:07:28.160 via email tonight, which you can see below. Then when Anthony returns, he'll have some things to
00:07:34.000 say about your version and actual reality. So yeah, they're not doing the event and claiming
00:07:40.980 it's an unsanctioned event, and that means it's an illegitimate debate. We'll get to her excuses
00:07:47.420 later on. They don't even make any sense. But he and Bextie end up firing back to this and says,
00:07:52.240 Nick, committing, asking to change the date, and then backing out when we couldn't is not
00:07:59.400 my definition of professional. You guys can run your campaign however you want. Voters can see it
00:08:04.060 all. And then it went on with Nick Kuvalis having these weird emojis on all of his lines here,
00:08:10.740 claiming that, you know, Kian's lying about him, all this stuff, and that the campaign never bought
00:08:16.440 up all these tickets for the theater except then he just admits that they did but he just says that
00:08:22.320 him and his wife each bought eight tickets and then other people on the campaign bulk bought
00:08:26.260 tickets as well it's like that sounds sketchy that might even be an elections bc campaign violation
00:08:33.620 campaign finance violation that you are purchasing tickets for in a debate and then you're just
00:08:40.080 handing them out to volunteers for free and it's not coming out of the campaign cash
00:08:44.760 But Nick Kuvels keeps burying himself here and says,
00:08:48.200 Kian has a big mouth, and now I'm going to shut it down.
00:08:51.020 Kian, you've lied to hundreds, perhaps thousands of people today.
00:08:54.120 I was hoping to wait for Anthony Koch to return from observing Passover
00:08:57.080 as he was dealing directly with you and has his own receipts to prove you're a liar.
00:09:01.540 But alas, you've gone on a rampage tonight and created quite the stir.
00:09:06.680 And he just kind of goes through all this stuff about claiming,
00:09:09.380 about how they were trying to move the date and whatnot.
00:09:12.500 And he links this email where he and Bextie was getting back to one of Caroline Elliott's other incompetent campaign staffers, Danny Gray, trying saying that, OK, yeah, we can consider moving the debate date, but it's probably not going to change.
00:09:27.260 We could maybe move it into May, but we'd have to get sign off from the other campaigns.
00:09:31.380 Basically, Caroline's campaign should have known it's probably not going to happen because it requires a lot of people to sign off on it.
00:09:36.940 And that's not unfair. The other campaigns have made their schedules around this debate.
00:09:41.900 They're not just going to reschedule everything. And so the chances that they were all going to
00:09:46.480 agree to reschedule are pretty slim. Do you know why Caroline Elliott was probably trying to
00:09:50.960 reschedule if she shows up to a debate this entire cycle at all? It's because she doesn't
00:09:55.520 want to be at a debate that is before the membership cutoff. She doesn't want to debate
00:10:00.120 where one of her opponents is going to look good and sell a bunch of memberships. She wants to
00:10:04.580 freeze the race because she thinks she's in the lead right now. And so she doesn't want to debate
00:10:08.480 anyone. She doesn't want to actually expose her record for scrutiny. She wants to stay completely
00:10:14.140 silent until maybe debating at the very tail end when the ballots are basically already being
00:10:19.380 counted. That's when Caroline Elliott supposedly will debate here. But again, the email just proved
00:10:25.280 that Nick Kuvels was lying. Like, no, this is not what the dunk you think it is. I want to also
00:10:32.500 point out that Caroline Elliott pretends like she has a scheduling conflict, a scheduling conflict
00:10:38.380 that she created herself by planning a small meet and greet in Kelowna that is not going to have
00:10:43.700 nearly the same reach as the Juno news debate. This is just embarrassing excuses. Like, here's
00:10:49.720 what she ended up posting earlier today, and you could tell that she knew that this was a bad
00:10:55.000 looking excuse because she quickly tried to bury her own post with more of her own campaign videos.
00:11:01.540 But Caroline Elliott, when she herself officially came up to address this, said,
00:11:05.800 there's a lot of chatter about debate participation a few things one i'm excited to take part in any
00:11:12.900 and all debate sanctioned by the conservative party of bc including the two that are currently
00:11:17.320 scheduled for the end of april oh wow guys she's excited to uh participate in all the debates
00:11:22.600 after the membership cut off that are sanctioned by the party i'm sorry what what is this like a
00:11:28.200 back alley brawl debate that she doesn't want to be part of it you know this is a dangerous
00:11:33.280 dangerous backroom debate with Juno News, some back alley street fight that she can't be part
00:11:38.860 of. Like it's Juno News. It's like not I'm not saying this in a bad way. I'm actually saying
00:11:44.580 this in a good way. Juno is like a very established establishment, independent media outlet. I don't
00:11:50.800 mean establishment in the bad way of like, you know, smoke filled rooms and like insiders and
00:11:55.640 whatnot. But in the sense that it's like a very mainstream independent media outlet, you can't
00:12:00.540 show up to that debate. You have a federal MP who's going to be the moderator. A former BC
00:12:05.840 conservative staff member is going to be a moderator who's friendly with Caroline. Really?
00:12:12.220 Oh, you can't go to this unsanctioned debate? Point two, she says, the Juno debate is unsanctioned.
00:12:18.520 It's timing before the membership cutoff date is taking away time from growing the party through
00:12:23.020 membership signups. And it involves candidates who may not even be on the final ballot. Major
00:12:28.620 payments are due after the debate date okay well you can't it's time it's timing before the
00:12:36.300 membership cutoff date is taking away from growing the party through membership signups
00:12:40.820 i i don't want to be maybe i'm just being a persnickety one i feel like you might actually
00:12:47.480 sign up a lot of people by going to the juno news debate and having thousands of people around the
00:12:53.320 province see you. You know, I don't want to take away from the extreme excitement of her Kelowna
00:13:00.340 meet and greet, but I think more people are going to see the Juno news debate than are going to go
00:13:05.800 to your meet and greet in Kelowna. Caroline Elliott can't attract flies at her events.
00:13:11.340 Dallas Brody, when I was with her, we went to Laskini Island, an island of 480 people,
00:13:17.720 at noon, on a Friday, and we had 70 people show up.
00:13:22.180 Caroline Elliott is oftentimes in Vancouver and getting like 40 people.
00:13:25.840 She can't attract flies.
00:13:27.240 And by the way, the type of people who are showing up to your event
00:13:29.960 tend to be the people who are already supporting your campaign.
00:13:32.920 If you want to sign up new members, go on shows, go on debates,
00:13:37.240 show yourself to people who wouldn't normally be consuming content from you
00:13:41.120 or showing up to your campaign events.
00:13:43.700 But now point number three, she says,
00:13:45.080 When we originally agreed to participate, it was due to a misleading communication by a DUNO news representative sent on March 12th that all other candidates have been confirmed to participate.
00:13:55.640 To be clear, a message was sent to me directly saying that everyone else is confirmed. This was untrue.
00:14:01.340 Okay, well, point three, you could say that maybe, maybe you could say if you said publicly from the beginning, I will show up if everyone else shows up.
00:14:09.660 Maybe that would be a fine excuse.
00:14:12.240 The problem is, point number two says, and it involves candidates who may not even make the
00:14:17.320 final ballot. So are you upset that everyone is not showing up? Or are you upset that people are
00:14:23.520 showing up? So you can't have it both ways. She is trying to have her cake and eat it too.
00:14:28.220 Do you want all the candidates to be there? Or do you not want all the candidates to be there?
00:14:33.600 Literally, point two and three are contradictory. Four says right here, when it emerged,
00:14:40.800 that that one main candidate had in fact not agreed to participate we encouraged juno to move
00:14:45.880 the debate until after the membership cut off so as to not be at a disadvantage taking time to
00:14:51.380 prepare for the debate while competitor was signing up members five by the way guys this
00:14:56.000 debate's gonna be pretty casual it's not like you're you're not debating for the presidency
00:14:59.920 you're gonna give a 30 second intro of who you are you're gonna tell people what your positions
00:15:05.080 are on the different issues you're gonna back and forth it with people a little bit if you disagree
00:15:09.140 on some stuff. Debates aren't that hard, especially if you're a seasoned veteran politician or you've
00:15:14.020 been around for a while. The problem is Caroline has no charisma and she can't do it. Five, the
00:15:18.960 same Juno representative told us they would consider this when they came back and said they
00:15:23.020 wouldn't reschedule. We declined to participate for all the above reasons, but reiterated that I
00:15:27.420 am and remain happy to participate at a later date. And by the way, they'd never actually
00:15:32.640 claimed that they had ever confirmed everybody because in every poster I've seen of this debate,
00:15:36.360 They always showed that Peter Milibar wasn't showing up and he had not confirmed.
00:15:40.680 By the way, Peter Milibar may now show up anyways.
00:15:43.400 He's going to make a mockery of Caroline Elliott, but I think actually canceling a major event
00:15:48.920 that he's probably going to have to like sacrifice thousands of dollars to be able to pull out
00:15:53.540 of in order to show up and stand on stage because Caroline won't do it.
00:15:57.240 Like he and Bexby even said that he actually had a pretty rigid scheduling conflict way
00:16:02.820 in advance and that that was something that they were trying to work out.
00:16:06.220 and that he was not trying to duck out on them.
00:16:08.380 At least that was his impression of it.
00:16:11.220 But Caroline said she could go
00:16:13.300 and then simply created a scheduling conflict for herself
00:16:17.060 because of all those reasons she said right there.
00:16:20.480 And by the way, pretending like,
00:16:22.220 oh, they said that they would consider reconscheduling it
00:16:24.780 and then they rejected it.
00:16:25.980 They told you what the criteria was for rescheduling
00:16:29.220 and you should have known it was pretty unlikely to happen.
00:16:32.580 What do you got going on on April 8th
00:16:35.260 before you schedule that other event. Nothing. You can't show up to New Westminster for a debate.
00:16:40.020 It's pathetic. The thing is, again, she is a liberal. And people have to stop falling for
00:16:46.260 the Erin O'Toole kind of game, where somebody enters a leadership race and they pretend to
00:16:52.140 have all the new in vogue positions on issues. I'm against DRIPA. I'm against SOGI. I'm against
00:16:57.720 Safe Supply. When we can literally show them two years ago saying the opposite. I'm sorry,
00:17:03.600 take a walk in the woods for about five, six years. Come back when you've shown you have a
00:17:09.160 track record of having the right positions, not just simply taking the right positions because
00:17:13.200 it's convenient at the time. By the way, some of the people who fool people on the Aaron O'Toole
00:17:18.140 campaign, Jeff Ballingall was pretending he was true blue. Anthony Koch was there. They were all
00:17:23.900 surrogates or doing the digital media campaign for Aaron O'Toole. They helped craft the true blue lie
00:17:29.580 And they're doing the same thing for Caroline Elliott. If you fall for this, please stop voting, because it's so obvious that she is not a conservative. You can vote for Yuri Fulmer. I'd say KLF is probably a good second choice in this race. Past that, they're all basically liberals. I don't know what to say about any of the candidates.
00:17:48.500 You have Ian Black, former liberal minister, Peter Milibar, massive liberal, Caroline Elliott,
00:17:53.880 former vice president of the Liberal Party. I'm sorry. People can say, well, the Liberal Party
00:17:59.200 used to be the Big Ten Party. When Caroline Elliott was the VP, it wasn't. And by the way,
00:18:04.120 there's a difference between being a Laurie Throness in the BC Liberals back in the day,
00:18:08.800 who was a social conservative and took very conservative positions that were unlike many
00:18:13.420 of the members of his party. And then Caroline Elliott, who literally smeared Laurie Throness
00:18:18.680 when he made statements against adding all this nonsense to the BC Human Rights Code in 2016 about
00:18:24.100 gender identity and whatnot, when he had made other statements against the Trudeau conversion
00:18:29.260 therapy ban. She literally called him abhorrent on television. The tape is out there. She called
00:18:34.720 Laurie Throness abhorrent, an actual conservative back in the old BC Liberal Party, because she was
00:18:40.000 a liberal anyways so that should be it for this rant guys thank you all for watching and i will
00:18:46.740 be coming back with more content later but i now have to jump on a plane and go back to calgary
00:18:51.380 before coming back about a week and a half later to be back in victoria for another 30 days
00:18:56.660 anyways thank you guys for watching i'll see you all next time