The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - May 14, 2026


CBC Blew Itself Up - Woke Entrapment Scheme could have been Criminal!


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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here, and welcome back to the National Telegraph YouTube channel.
00:00:06.460 You, you there at home, you do not hate the CBC enough. I know that because when I said CBC,
00:00:14.660 you probably thought of awful liberal propaganda, when you should be thinking of unethical behavior
00:00:21.020 and potential criminal activity. Yes, the CBC and its indigenous counterpart, APTN,
00:00:28.080 have gotten out of the liberal propaganda business and have just become a criminal enterprise,
00:00:34.520 trying to kidnap and entrap people to try and dunk on anti-woke influencers.
00:00:40.780 This is something that the CBC, APTN, and an affiliate organization have just engaged in.
00:00:49.320 It's absolutely insane, and I'm going to break down the whole story for you guys here today.
00:00:54.360 But before I get into it, I just want to remind you guys, if you like the channel, make sure to leave a like on this video, subscribe if you're not yet a subscriber, leave a comment about if you know of anything that the CBC has ever done worse than this before, and of course, if you want to help support the channel better, you can always hit the join button below the video and become a channel member.
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00:01:23.960 Let's start this story off with a video that Professor Frances Widdowson posted on her own X account.
00:01:32.560 Now, the visual is not up yet. Her camera is just being covered for a second here.
00:01:37.220 But I just want to read the preamble to this video so that you can kind of get a feel for what is going on here.
00:01:43.920 And then we're going to kind of wind it back to the beginning of this tale.
00:01:48.560 So you get a full picture of just how unethical and potentially criminal the actions of the CBC and its contractors are here.
00:01:59.280 So Francis Widdowson here says,
00:02:01.020 My interrogation of Mr. Smarmy, Igor Vamos, as set up by a made-up company called Forge Media, which pretended that I would be doing an interview for a docuseries, this outfit is evidently connected in some way to CBC.
00:02:17.840 So we'll watch a little bit of this video because it is 11 minutes long.
00:02:21.700 You just need to see the beginning of it so you get the stage set for you.
00:02:25.360 And then we're going to wind it back to Lindsay Shepard's part of all of this.
00:02:32.380 What's this about?
00:02:35.240 Tell me what this is about.
00:02:43.680 Who are you?
00:02:47.840 now this is probably seeming like the setup to a thriller or horror movie someone just sitting
00:03:00.860 in a room with a pile of shoes in front of them while a bunch of people walk around like
00:03:05.580 automatons and refuse to speak now this person igor vamos who uh francis has dubbed mr smarmy
00:03:13.180 does eventually talk to her and pretty much just dodges every question 0.96
00:03:17.460 and acts completely dumbfounded and stupid at everything that she tries to put towards him. 0.99
00:03:26.740 This is a pile of shoes that I believe two Aboriginal people came and dumped on the table. 0.99
00:03:35.660 This seems to be a setup of some outfit that's doing a reality television show 0.97
00:03:41.220 that wants to paint me i guess as some kind of a racist or something that they're going to post
00:03:48.500 on social media what's your name sir mike smith yeah i and and i think um yeah and that's not his
00:03:58.220 actual name by the way you got it exactly right you you've defined it precise well i wouldn't say
00:04:05.160 exactly right it's this is this is uh social experiment okay and it's on video and i'm on
00:04:16.040 video too so we're on video together yeah we're on video together yep so um i think that you figured
00:04:22.620 it out and now we can wrap it up okay but and so it goes on like this for the entire 11 minutes
00:04:29.720 of this guy just being kind of, you know, wistful in the way he talks.
00:04:33.920 Oh, I guess, yeah, you understand what's going on here and all that.
00:04:38.860 Acts like this is all normal.
00:04:40.960 It's not normal.
00:04:42.260 It's potentially criminal activity
00:04:44.280 because the way that they had gotten Francis to go on a plane flight
00:04:49.600 and in a car ride to get to this undisclosed warehouse location
00:04:53.520 they were filming in was through obvious fraud,
00:04:57.660 pretending they were people that they weren't, using not even their correct names, using company
00:05:02.700 names that were not real, because apparently they're making some sort of expose series,
00:05:08.680 a la like the Fifth Estate, except far more hacky, to try and like expose residential school
00:05:16.420 deniers. But in fact, the shoes should let you know that these people are insane, like reconciliation
00:05:22.840 activist radicals because they dumped shoes on the table because francis denies the kamloops 215
00:05:31.080 grave story which in fact if you know anything about it is a hoax but they were trying to like
00:05:37.440 embarrass her by in the middle of this interview where they were asking her apparently ridiculous
00:05:41.900 questions like it started normal and then it got ridiculous a guy who dressed a johnny mcdonald 0.87
00:05:46.720 walked in started saying racist stuff then two native women dumped shoes on the thing that was 0.72
00:05:51.100 supposed to be the big dunk on Francis. It's going to make her feel very silly for showing up, getting 0.98
00:05:56.800 absolutely, you know, like owned by these producers because they dumped shoes on the table and had a 0.61
00:06:04.240 guy dressed as Johnny McDonald say racist things to her. Like, I don't get it. But now we need to
00:06:11.300 roll back the tape and go look at where this kind of was starting to originate from. So after
00:06:18.220 Frances Widdowson had revealed what happened to her with a company named Forge Media. We then had
00:06:24.780 Lindsay Shepard, who works for Juno News and also used to be a staff member for the BC Conservative 0.78
00:06:30.460 Party before she was fired for completely ridiculous nonsense, basically saying that 1.00
00:06:34.500 TRC Day is stupid. I agree. She was fired for that for some reason. But she then revealed her 1.00
00:06:40.140 own story about another company apparently tied to this docu-series that entrapped her because she
00:06:48.300 wrote a children's book about John A. MacDonald. So check this out. Lindsay Shepard here says,
00:06:53.980 I found out recently that I was deceived by social activists in an elaborate scheme dating
00:06:59.400 back to January. A production group with what I now know was a fake name and fake identities
00:07:05.880 gave me a friendly interview about my book, A Day with Sir John A., and about Sir John A. Macdonald back in February.
00:07:13.500 They connected me with a false company called Heritage Figures Canada with a fake website and hired me to perform consulting work for them.
00:07:20.920 We had what I know were fake meetings, fake documents, fake commercial shoot, fake prototype of a Sir John A. collectible.
00:07:29.660 Then in a second filmed interview last week, they turned on me and it was revealed to have
00:07:33.960 all been a setup in order to demonize Sir John Aime and smear me.
00:07:37.480 It turns out this is a taxpayer-funded CBC and APTN project.
00:07:41.780 There is so much I will make a video, they all also deceived Frances Whittowson.
00:07:47.840 And I'm going to get into in a little bit here who else they also deceived, because
00:07:51.780 if you don't know, I work for the 1BC party and Dallas Brody.
00:07:57.120 Forage Media, the exact same fake organization that ended up entrapping Francis Widdowson,
00:08:03.240 tried to entrap us and Dallas Brody.
00:08:05.960 We, because we're a large team, we're not just a singular person like Lindsay or Francis,
00:08:11.300 we immediately noticed some red flags about what they were sending us.
00:08:16.280 I don't have screenshots of their website, but I viewed the whole thing.
00:08:19.980 It was very sketchy.
00:08:21.400 I got a really good tip-off as well from his friend, Stuart Parker,
00:08:25.280 who had said that there seems to be people going around trying to set up fake interviews or there
00:08:29.880 seems to be fake companies going around. I'm not sure if that information had come from Lindsay
00:08:33.900 Shepard, but at least there was a slight murmuring around the anti-woke community that something was
00:08:39.220 going down. And also Dallas Brody, who used to actually be very momentarily a CBC producer on
00:08:46.260 shows like The Fifth Estate, knows how they typically behave. And the way they were approaching
00:08:51.300 us felt a little bit weird. But here is an email to Lindsay Shepard from a Catherine woman. And it
00:08:59.260 says, Hi, Lindsay. We can confirm that this project is an early production for CBC Entertainment and
00:09:05.100 APTN. No details pertaining to exhibition are confirmed at this time. Please contact the
00:09:10.700 independent producers with any further questions. Best regards, Catherine. She, her. So Catherine
00:09:16.440 Wolfgang. So I believe this is a newer email from Lindsay poking around and demanding answers from
00:09:23.060 the CBC itself. They seem to have had to admit that what just happened to her and what happened
00:09:29.460 to Frances is part of a CBC APTN, which again is Indigenous CBC, basically. It's like even worse 0.76
00:09:37.040 as CBC. This is one of their projects. They had to actually tell her that it was. And here is
00:09:43.140 another screenshot here that she posts and it says project counting coop company nlti productions
00:09:51.380 he creatives dakota ray hebert uh gets crayboy uh moon uh ryan moca moccasin shane belcourt
00:10:01.220 tito yabara marlo miezaga all these people are involved in this basically that they are doing
00:10:08.020 this comedy docu-series trying to make a fool of people who are anti-woke. Because it's not even
00:10:15.080 just conservatives, not all these people are conservatives. Frances openly identifies as what
00:10:20.020 she calls like an Orwellian socialist, like a George Orwell-style socialist. And, you know,
00:10:26.160 obviously Lindsay Shepard is more of a right-wing conservative. Dallas Brody is, of course, a, you 1.00
00:10:31.760 know, more right-wing conservative. And this has also happened to a few other people. They tried
00:10:36.380 to entrap them, or maybe they successfully can trap them. I probably don't need to tell you
00:10:42.020 that this is criminal. Now, Frances has been posting her own videos going over what happened 0.97
00:10:49.080 here. But one thing I want to highlight, well, first, let's also highlight another person that
00:10:55.160 they tried to go after, because this is very key. They tried to go after Aaron Gunn here,
00:11:01.940 who says wait until people find out how the cbc show tried unsuccessfully to manipulate and deceive
00:11:09.660 a sitting member of parliament on its crusade to further attack canadian canada's history and
00:11:14.820 smear the reputation of canada's first prime minister and it's not just about john a mcdonald
00:11:19.840 it's just about the entire country in general uh dallas brody here says in her statement forage
00:11:26.200 media also approached me about doing an interview they said that they were subcontracted by cbc
00:11:31.520 We smelled a rat right away. So we asked some follow up questions about what other documentaries they had done. And when they failed to answer sufficiently, we've refused the interview. I worked at CBC Toronto in 1998-99 at the Fifth Estate and Marketplace. And I knew from my experience that this was not the normal procedure for arranging interview subjects. And now we know that the CBC was in fact behind all this.
00:11:54.960 What is going on here, CBC? We want answers. This, to me, looks like you kidnapped Frances Whitteson. I think the police need to get involved here. And that's what I kind of want to get into in a little bit after I post the email exchange that I had with our other research director, Masha Kleiner, with Forge Media.
00:12:13.480 Forge Media here, we got this, this was the exact text of the request that I posted a few days ago after Frances posted the tape of her dealing with Mr. Smarmy Igor Vamos, and they said, this person Pam Gibson, who is the same person that Frances and I believe Lindsay Shepard dealt with, they say here,
00:12:33.520 Hello, Ms. Brody. I'm a producer developing a docuseries for the CBC that investigates how land, law, and democracy are negotiated in Canada, going to air later this year.
00:12:46.620 We're looking at the impact of land decisions on the erosion of public trust and civic life, and we would love to feature your voice.
00:12:53.760 We value the way you speak to the issue honestly and practically, and at a time when there's so much public pushback on the truth and a breakdown of democratic process, we think your perspective deserves broader engagement.
00:13:08.580 In the episode where we'd like you to feature, we're looking specifically at how Indigenous land rights are being advanced in ways that sidestep democratic accountability, eroding public trust and undermining Canada's future as a functioning democracy.
00:13:22.200 We'd love to invite you to a short interview with one of our producers and a single camera, a simple setup over an hour or two. 0.93
00:13:31.180 Are you available in the next two weeks? Let me know and I'll set up the logistics and happy to share some questions ahead of time to help you prepare.
00:13:39.220 All the best, Pam.
00:13:41.100 Now, Forge Media, if you don't know, at this point, is a fake company.
00:13:46.860 In fact, right after Frances Whittowson started calling them out, and I also published my own information about Forge Media, suddenly, looks like this domain isn't connected to the website yet.
00:14:00.820 Whoopsie-daisy. Oh, I guess they accidentally tripped over the plug that kept the website online, and now it's gone.
00:14:07.400 It's almost like this entire thing was fraudulent.
00:14:09.620 But what you'll notice in that email I just read from Pam Gibson at Forge Media, which, again, they seem to have changed their name a few times when they were first trying to go after Lindsey Shepard, and then they were trying to go after Brody, Aaron Gunn, and Francis.
00:14:23.800 in that email, they're not, they're not like, it's not like if you read between the lines,
00:14:29.360 you understand that they're going to be hostile. No, they fully just say, no, you have a great
00:14:33.560 perspective. We want to interview you about what you think. And this is the thing that first kind
00:14:38.840 of tipped us off. A little bit too friendly for an organization supposedly affiliated with the CBC,
00:14:45.680 but we've now seen through Lindsay Shepard, the CBC has fully admitted that they are involved in
00:14:50.820 this thing. They were trying to get Dallas, and I presume a similar email was sent to Francis and
00:14:56.860 Lindsay. They were trying to get her to come to an interview on false pretenses. The idea that they
00:15:03.660 just want to have a sit down and talk about all of the land claims, what Dallas has been saying
00:15:08.620 about Kamloops, all of how the land claims are undermining democracy and all this. They're
00:15:13.460 literally trying to pepper us with all of these different kind of compliments and sort of
00:15:19.200 propositions making it seem like this could be a more conservative subcontracted production company
00:15:25.320 from the CBC. I looked at their website, all of their supposed old products, and they had fake
00:15:30.220 products on their website. I couldn't find IMDBs. I couldn't find any online information, no YouTube
00:15:35.460 trailers, nothing for anything on their website. And it was all kind of trying to be more conservative
00:15:40.140 coded. You know, a documentary about a guy going and joining the military, a documentary about
00:15:47.860 Valley Forge or 1776 and and the Minutemen in America it was all sort of kind of trying to be
00:15:54.980 this curated assortment of like small town conservative life in Appalachia and whatnot
00:16:01.140 and it was just a little bit too squeaky clean to be real and it turns out it was fake I ran
00:16:08.040 it through some AI testers as well everything on their website had had touches of AI to it in order
00:16:13.180 to make fake posters and whatnot. But let's get back to the criminal activity side of this.
00:16:20.540 This is, from at least my reading, kidnapping. They effectively kidnapped Frances Widdowson.
00:16:27.760 She had taken a flight and taken a car ride to a nondescript warehouse that they had set up
00:16:36.000 their filming studio, and they brought her there under false pretenses. Kidnapping is not just you
00:16:42.100 grab someone to throw them in the back of a van and drive off it's not just you you put get someone
00:16:47.220 to step into a you know basement into some sort of like a crawl space and you lock them in that's not
00:16:54.120 only what kidnapping is kidnapping is also if you like ran up to someone and said your daughter's
00:17:01.120 in danger you have to come with me right now and then like you know 30 minutes into the drive
00:17:05.440 they're like where are we going it doesn't matter if you hurt the person or not or you know demand
00:17:10.780 money from them the fact that you are getting them to go somewhere that they would have not
00:17:15.680 agreed to if you were up front with what was happening is what turns it into kidnapping now
00:17:21.460 that doesn't mean that if you were making prank videos and you know you sort of made you look
00:17:26.640 kind of a thing that isn't you know kidnapping it's if you're kind of doing you if you keep it
00:17:33.620 within the realms of the person you're at least actually somewhat in keeping them informed on
00:17:39.480 what's going on uh if you're it's like more it's kind of complicated but what francis was brought
00:17:46.580 in for was an interview about her ideas about you know about the kamloops 215 thing all of her work
00:17:53.920 on pushing back on indigenization and the interview was not that again they brought out a guy dressed 0.98
00:18:00.340 as john a mcdonald to say racist things and then two native women walked in and dumped shoes on the 1.00
00:18:05.080 on the table to try and mock and humiliate and harass her. That sounds like kidnapping. 1.00
00:18:12.360 You got the person to travel to another city and then go to a nondescript looking building
00:18:16.980 to then be harassed and humiliated? That's completely false pretenses. That's basically
00:18:23.800 forcing somebody's movement based on a false pretense. But anyways, so I want to then jump
00:18:30.180 into some of the other things that have been posted about this since then. This should get
00:18:35.960 the CBC sued into the floor. They thought that they were somehow, I guess, really getting one
00:18:41.940 over on the anti-woke people, and they may have actually just ruined several people's careers
00:18:46.500 by trying to do it this way. But they think they're untouchable and they can do whatever
00:18:50.440 they want. And if a conservative did this, you know the RCMP would be investigating tomorrow.
00:18:55.860 The RCMP should investigate the CBC and APTN and the subcontracted producer for this.
00:19:02.620 Lindsay Shepard here says,
00:19:04.440 Here are some emails I received from Molly Gore, Pam Gibson, and Igor Vamos, Michael Smith,
00:19:10.360 as part of the prank show that CBC and APTN will be airing.
00:19:15.840 This is how they were communicating with me.
00:19:18.580 So right here it says,
00:19:20.820 Hi Lindsay, I'm developing a docuseries for a national broadcaster.
00:19:25.860 for a national broadcast and we'd like to discuss inviting you to take part in our episode focusing
00:19:31.300 on reclaiming the legacy of johnny mcdonald we think your advocacy is critical to preventing
00:19:35.780 the cultural amnesia endangering canada right now and that is your voice would really enrich
00:19:40.580 the program are you free to chat in the next few days i apologize for the short notice we go to
00:19:46.260 camera in a few weeks the role would be would be compensated of course here is the next one
00:19:52.420 does february 8th work for you i think we're only need a half a day and our crew can come to
00:19:57.280 victoria so hopefully that makes it easy let us know what accommodations you need with the baby
00:20:02.620 we still sort sorting the location but just to clarify our options are you open to filming at
00:20:08.520 home it'll be quite a small crew just one or two producers and a camera very simple thanks again
00:20:13.680 we're thrilled to feature your voice yeah let's have all these people fraudulently entering
00:20:19.520 Lindsay Shepard's home with her infant child there. I think she has now two children. It's 0.83
00:20:26.200 one or two. Let's go there with her baby in the same house. You have a bunch of people harass an 0.91
00:20:32.780 attempt to humiliate her because she wrote a book talking positively about John A. MacDonald.
00:20:39.940 And there's nothing wrong with John A. MacDonald. Can you find things bad about him? Sure. That's
00:20:45.080 called humans. What? You're going to like, he's not Hitler guys, but they really want him to be
00:20:50.260 Hitler. And all these people are trying to like, I guess, pretend that if you are in favor of John
00:20:56.080 A. MacDonald, that you're like killing all these children associated with these shoes we're dumping
00:21:01.480 on the table. It's just gross what is going on here. So let's go to another email. Here it says, 0.90
00:21:09.900 Lindsay, thanks again for taking the time to interview us last month. I have some exciting
00:21:14.120 news one of the other subjects we're featuring the series a series is a new toy company that's
00:21:19.060 going to launch children's john a figurine later this year to celebrate his legacy and we'd like
00:21:24.180 to invite you to consult on the creation process and also to serve as the ambassador when it
00:21:29.080 launches the work of elevated the story of john a and has been a great inspiration to them they are
00:21:34.120 already in the later stages of the toys production but the role would involve consulting on the same
00:21:38.980 on some of the scripts around the launch and you know blah blah keeps going on there and then we
00:21:43.900 have then we have one more thing after rudy giuliani i accidentally clicked on a space where
00:21:51.140 rudy giuliani was there i don't need to read the last email there rudy giuliani ruined it thanks 0.99
00:21:56.420 rudy uh but yeah lindsey probably could sue these people for defamation they should be charged with
00:22:04.480 fraud there's a difference in terms of like a prank when an interviewer walks up to a guy and
00:22:10.360 he asks him a silly question and he records him and taking it seriously and making him look kind
00:22:15.400 of dumb there's a difference between that and like weeks of interviewing people setting up fake 0.93
00:22:22.340 meetings for a toy you're developing and a series that you're going to do reclaiming the legacy of 0.99
00:22:28.380 john a mcdonald and celebrating him and then doing the complete opposite when you show up
00:22:32.880 entering her home and doing the complete opposite getting francis to fly in a plane and go to a
00:22:38.560 nondescript warehouse studio to then try and be mocked and humiliated. This is kidnapping, fraud,
00:22:46.680 and definitely some form of defamation that they should be suing over. And I hope that all of the
00:22:53.540 organizations like the JCCF and TDF and all other sort of civil liberties organizations get involved
00:22:59.760 because this is the government doing it. The CBC is the government. They get a $1.5 billion of
00:23:07.700 government money aptn even more so it is fully government funded nobody watches aptn and all
00:23:13.940 these other people getting money are connected to government funding and we're and it's not
00:23:20.640 this should be news everywhere it is becoming like news all over the alternative media but
00:23:25.980 every single legacy media outlet should be covering what could be the most unethical thing
00:23:30.980 a journalist has ever done in Canada for a supposed story. Anyways, so with all that being
00:23:38.820 said, I will come and bring you guys updates on this as time goes on. I know there's some
00:23:43.920 journalists developing long investigative pieces on this. Tristan Hopper from the National Post
00:23:50.440 reached out. I had forwarded the emails that we got from Forge Media, and I assume that they will
00:23:55.760 be hunting down all the people involved in all this so we can get a proper background on what
00:24:00.020 the CBC is doing and by the way what kind of show is this going to be if this wasn't caught and
00:24:05.720 highlighted what were they going to air a show where it was just going to be Frances talking 0.96
00:24:09.400 about her views and Lindsay talking about Johnny McDone and then suddenly like two angry indigenous 0.95
00:24:13.660 women enter the room and dump shoes on and then like a laugh track plays like this is the the 0.99
00:24:19.260 meme I developed around all this I just want to play it quick uh I just want to like post this 1.00
00:24:24.160 quick it's the whole thing is just embarrassing when you actually think about what their vision
00:24:30.260 for this was because i posted uh this sort of soy jack meme in response to alex zoltan
00:24:38.200 posting the shoe picture and he says is no one else perturbed that the cbc thought a genocide
00:24:45.580 was a good was good content for a comedy show and he's right because the sort of activists at the
00:24:51.860 CBC would consider like residential schools and, you know, the development of Canada as like
00:24:57.980 genocide. So is the whole comedy bit going to be that they're like, that there's genocide and that
00:25:04.940 Francis doesn't believe there's genocide? Is that the punchline here? But I posted this soy jack
00:25:10.600 meme where it's, you know, trying to portray a very kind of smarmy leftist, not unlike Igor Vamos.
00:25:17.880 And I just made up these quotes as a joke. And I said, wow, look at those shoes. Pretty embarrassing that we lied to about doing a normal interview and then dumped a box of children's shoes on the table. You're too racist to understand how much you just got owned. Did you see we got a guy to say racist stuff dressed as Johnny McDonald? Yeah, that's a historical figure you like. You should see your face right now after we violated your trust and harassed you. Oh, my goodness. You can't make this stuff up.
00:25:45.220 So defund the CBC, an amazing opportunity for the federal conservatives to demand the CBC get
00:25:52.940 defunded in its entirety, that APTN get defunded in its entirety. The fact that the CBC let this
00:25:59.800 happen is indicting. Their normal content sucks. This is criminal. Anyways, with all that being 0.99
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