The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - CBC Host Embarrassed Trying to Defend Carney - Bridge Deal Disaster!

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here, and welcome back to the National Telegraph's YouTube channel.

00:00:06.100 Although the Canadian legacy media really wants to defend Prime Minister Mark Carney on the

00:00:11.600 Gordie Howe Bridge issue, eventually they have to give it some substantial coverage,

00:00:17.000 and when the facts are so against Carney, it's really difficult for them to sweep it under the

00:00:22.320 rug. When they asked him a question about the problem with the Gordie Howe Bridge,

00:00:26.820 He absolutely fumbled all over himself, clearly not actually having a good excuse yet for

00:00:33.020 why he basically let Donald Trump eat his lunch on a bridge that Canada paid for 100%,

00:00:39.380 and yet the Americans are going to get 50% of the toll revenue from the bridge.

00:00:45.640 Check out this clip of him trying to answer questions at the Calgary Stampede.

00:00:51.820 Well, I think there's a couple of things about the deal.

00:00:54.580 First, I'm happy the bridge is going to be open.

00:00:56.280 Yeah, we need it. We need it because we're expanding.

00:01:00.080 Second thing is the word net does a lot of work in this.

00:01:04.500 We are sharing after Canada is paid back.

00:01:08.740 So we get the revenues, then the servicing of the costs of the bridge and paying the debt of the bridge.

00:01:15.000 And then what's left over, there's a split of that for 15 years.

00:01:19.480 And the U.S. money is invested back in economic development in the region, the U.S. side of the region, obviously.

00:01:26.280 That just means money for Michigan. And no, the deal is just 50-50 revenue splitting. Yes, there's maybe going to be a little bit of a reserve of money put towards actual like maintenance and operations of the bridge that doesn't get split.

00:01:40.520 But after that, which is a minor portion of the toll revenues every year, 50% of it is going to the state of Michigan, and 50% of it stays with the government of Canada.

00:01:52.140 This is absolutely pathetic, considering it was just a few days ago in Saudi Arabia, he said, we just need to clarify a few things.

00:01:59.400 Once we basically tell Donald Trump how wrong he is, he's going to back off. 0.98

00:02:04.160 And then that didn't happen because he's terrified of Donald Trump.

00:02:07.060 He doesn't want to actually negotiate with him.

00:02:08.760 And so he so often just gives him a bunch of concessions

00:02:12.680 to basically avoid actually having to get into the room with him

00:02:15.540 and make a substantial deal.

00:02:17.780 Which is going to help drive more traffic.

00:02:20.380 The initial years of this bridge,

00:02:22.480 there is, you know, traffic volumes are going to build up.

00:02:25.180 So there's not going to be a lot of net to split.

00:02:28.020 So look, it's a good deal for Canada.

00:02:30.380 That's not an excuse.

00:02:32.360 You let him eat your lunch, but you just basically said,

00:02:35.040 well, there's not going to be a lot of lunch

00:02:36.600 for the first few years of the bridge's operation, it's like, okay, well, this is a deal that goes on

00:02:43.560 forever. It's like saying, yes, we're completely screwed, but at least for the first few years of

00:02:50.220 being completely screwed, it's not that bad. And then it gets really bad after that. And by the 0.92

00:02:55.320 way, the bridge is probably going to take on a lot of traffic very quickly. It may even take away

00:03:01.400 about 50 to 60% of the traffic of the Ambassador Bridge and take it for itself because it is going

00:03:07.780 to have lower fees. Although another stipulation in the deal is that the Americans can actually

00:03:13.800 push for the tolls to be higher, which ends up undermining the whole competitive advantage

00:03:18.640 of having built the Gordie Howe Bridge in the first place. But Mark Carney is pretending

00:03:24.480 that the defeat is not actually the defeat because certain aspects of the defeat are not

00:03:30.520 as bad right now as they're going to be in a few years like i don't even understand how

00:03:34.900 even on his toes this sounded right coming out of his mouth uh and what's really good is getting

00:03:41.500 the bridge done on on on on time uh on budget uh and to and to build up together and by the way

00:03:49.800 he had effectively zero to do with actually getting the bridge built considering he only

00:03:54.380 became prime minister at near the start of 2025 this is actually a justin trudeau and probably

00:04:00.260 a government of Ontario and Windsor project. But whatever, apparently he wants kudos because

00:04:06.640 the bridge is opening. Yes, we got fleeced to open the bridge up on the date the bridge was

00:04:12.300 always supposed to open up. It's not like we fast-tracked opening the bridge up by like a

00:04:16.900 year or two, and so maybe it's okay to do the revenue sharing right now because the economic

00:04:22.340 impact will balance that out. No, he just got completely washed by Donald Trump for no

00:04:30.160 reason. But now I want to jump over to a segment on the CBC where one of my favorite MPs,

00:04:36.380 Shavloy Majumdar, was on. He is the current conservative critic for U.S. relations, which,

00:04:42.420 although it sounds like a more niche area of policy to cover as a critic, these days,

00:04:48.540 obviously, I think we can all agree that that is actually a really big deal. And I actually want

00:04:53.120 to issue a bit of a correction on myself from a couple of days ago, nothing that serious.

00:04:58.280 But I ended up talking about the Gordie Howe bridge issue and the letter that Chavloy Majumdar put out.

00:05:05.780 But I only read most of the first page and I kind of neglected the third page where it actually kind of picked up.

00:05:12.140 Because Chavloy and the Conservatives ended up putting out this bullet point list of the things that they want answers on when it comes to the deal that Mark Carney cut.

00:05:21.860 And then he's going to be going on to the CBC and talking about this with the worst CBC host, somehow worse than Rosemary Barton, David Cochran.

00:05:31.780 So number one here on Chauvelin's letter says,

00:05:35.580 Will you immediately release the full agreement, including all amendments, side letters, financial arrangements, and commitments to the United States?

00:05:44.140 Number two is what precisely will be divided, gross toll revenue, operating to profit, net profit after expenses, or revenue after Canada has fully recovered its investment?

00:05:55.700 Now, from what Carney just said, it sounds like it's a little bit in the middle there with some operating expenses.

00:06:02.040 It's then going to be cut after that, not after Canada has actually recovered its investment money.

00:06:06.900 number three here says will any bridge revenues be transferred shared or placed in the economic

00:06:13.020 development fund before canada taxpayers recoup the project's full cost that looks like a big fat

00:06:18.580 no four what does the government project this 15-year fund will distribute and sorry and how

00:06:27.820 much will be spent in canada versus the united states number five what new authority has been

00:06:34.140 granted to the United States over toll rates? Did American officials block increases, demand

00:06:39.000 decreases, or otherwise slow Canada's recovery of its investment? Did the agreement after the

00:06:45.300 bridge's ownership governance liabilities or the original timetable for recovering Canada's

00:06:50.100 contributions? Or did the agreement alter our timetable for recovering our costs?

00:06:55.920 Seven, what did Canada receive in return beyond American agreement not to obstruct the opening

00:07:01.180 of a bridge that Canada alone paid to build. And number seven on this list might be the most

00:07:07.060 important point. What else did we get? Because my goodness, Mark Carney negotiating guru as he

00:07:14.360 marketed himself back in 2025, you know, maybe he should have used this as a little leverage on

00:07:20.880 trade, maybe instead of just getting rid of the digital services tax and tripling of the streaming

00:07:25.680 tax, and a bunch of these other things that we've basically gotten rid of, because Donald Trump

00:07:29.840 one of them gone. How about we use that and say, you know what, we're going to package up all these

00:07:34.320 policies you don't like. I mean, these policies, we should just get rid of anyways, because they

00:07:38.240 suck. But I'm going to package up all these policies. And if you agree to basically drop 0.96

00:07:43.040 a bunch of your tariffs, I'll get rid of these things. Then you're playing hardball. And on the

00:07:46.960 bridge, the suggestion I made is that midterm season is coming up for Donald Trump. Mark Carney,

00:07:52.500 if he wants to be a little bit cheeky, I would line up a bunch of empty trucks right in front

00:07:56.800 of the bridge and say, we're all ready to come over. Why doesn't Donald Trump just sign,

00:08:01.220 basically allow it to open and we can start economically enriching Michigan? Because if

00:08:06.020 you don't do that, you're going to have a lot of angry people in the state of Michigan that

00:08:09.840 they're not going to have a second export and import route opened up with Canada. There's

00:08:14.540 going to be a lot of people ticked off on the other side of that bridge, wanting it to open

00:08:18.760 that the Republicans need for the midterms. Now, I say this as someone who'd probably even

00:08:23.400 vote Republican if I lived in the United States. Of course, it always depends on where you're at.

00:08:28.340 Sometimes if you're in a super blue state, you may have to vote in the Democratic primary to 0.83

00:08:32.640 block the more crazy progressive Democrat. But that's me going down a rabbit hole there. But

00:08:36.880 you're going to have more pressure that way, more leverage on Donald Trump if you actually play

00:08:41.800 hardball. But Carney's incapable of hardball. Carney wants every negotiation to be coffee and

00:08:50.300 chocolate eclairs in the morning and we talk about how much we agree and how we should come

00:08:54.620 to a mutual understanding that benefits both of us. That's not the power games of United States

00:09:00.260 politics. You can't just go in, swagger into the office and say, well, you know, Trump, you're

00:09:04.860 actually kind of wrong about everything and you should give me everything I want. Not how it works.

00:09:09.620 You're not going to win by telling Donald Trump that he's wrong. Now I just want to jump into

00:09:14.280 that CBC news segment. And then after that, we might go to a video from Pierre Polyev that he

00:09:19.980 ended up putting out this morning. So here is the segment with Shavloy Majumdar, the conservative

00:09:25.280 critic for U.S. relations on CBC with the awful David Cochran. In a letter to the minister responsible

00:09:33.260 for Canada U.S. trade, several conservative MPs wrote, Prime Minister Carney has negotiated a

00:09:38.680 terrible deal for Canada. And amongst their list of demands from Minister Dominic Reblanc was

00:09:44.020 a request to immediately release the full agreement, including all amendments, side letters,

00:09:49.340 financial arrangements, and commitments to the United States.

00:09:54.220 Shuvuloy Majumdar is the Conservative MP for Calgary Heritage

00:09:57.240 and the Conservative Canada-U.S. relations critic.

00:10:00.000 Shuvuloy Majumdar, good to see you again, sir.

00:10:01.360 Thanks for some time today.

00:10:03.080 Good to see you, too.

00:10:04.040 So this deal, there are still many things we do not know about the dollar amounts.

00:10:09.160 The Prime Minister insists it's a good deal for Canada.

00:10:11.840 Your letter, you call it a terrible deal.

00:10:14.400 How do we draw conclusions at this point?

00:10:16.460 How do we draw conclusions, Mr. Cochran?

00:10:19.340 I know in other interviews, that's just the interviewer posing a general question for the

00:10:24.360 person to answer. David Cochran is saying that because he really doesn't want the liberals to

00:10:29.400 be in trouble. How do we know, Mr. Chevaloy, how do we know that this is actually a bad deal?

00:10:35.220 Yes, there is basically a portion of the deal where the Americans get to kick us in the pants

00:10:41.080 for like the next 50 years straight. Yes, basically the entire thing is absolutely the

00:10:47.060 opposite of what Carney had stated he wanted at the start, just opening the bridge with the 100%

00:10:52.380 toll agreement that we had in the first place. But how do we know it's bad just because all that got

00:10:58.080 cut in half arbitrarily? There's a matter of transparency that I think the Canadian public

00:11:05.300 deserves to understand exactly what's being negotiated. We haven't seen anything about

00:11:09.300 side letters or side agreements that might be associated with the deal. We don't know exactly

00:11:14.660 how the deal will work we don't know who will govern the economic development agency that

00:11:18.980 is referred to in this deal um what authority has been granted to the united states over toll rates

00:11:25.220 uh will they have the opportunity to block or expand toll rates moving forward um there's

00:11:30.100 so there's a lot of questions that i think are fair questions fair-minded questions for the

00:11:34.740 government to be transparent about uh before opening the bridge in full um and so we've only

00:11:40.100 been getting a drip and drab of all of that coming out and um you know for the auto workers lumber

00:11:45.780 workers steel workers and aluminum workers who are putting their goods on that bridge and are

00:11:51.300 looking for economic certainty uh certainly the opening of the bridge is a moment of canadian

00:11:55.860 pride it's long been coming it was a project that started many years ago and i think is important

00:12:01.220 to the future of our economy yeah well what we do know at this point is it's uh set to open and of

00:12:06.340 Of course, it's been scheduled to open before on July 27th.

00:12:09.680 And that's when the 15 year clock on whatever this agreement is, that's when it begins.

00:12:14.220 That's what I'm told. Now, it is half of the profits for that 15 years, not total revenues, just profits.

00:12:21.580 And what the prime minister has said is, you know, that's after operating costs, you know, salaries, paying back some of the capital, some of the interest.

00:12:30.020 So there might be five. No, no, no. He actually fudged that one. It's not paying back the capital.

00:12:34.320 Yes, you can technically put that money back to paying back the capital. That's what we can do with the money. But it's not like they only get the 50-50 split after we put our money back towards paying back the capital. If that was true, 100% of it would go towards that because that's going to take a very long time for us to pay back the $6.4 billion it took to build the fridge.

00:12:55.120 But David Cochran slipped in there making it sound like, no, it's like 50-50 profit sharing after like 90% of the money gets burned up on other costs.

00:13:05.280 No, this is going to be quite a substantial portion of the total revenue that is being split 50-50.

00:13:13.040 When before, the whole idea was we'd get 100% of it, until which point we got the $6.4 billion back, and then it would start being split 50-50.

00:13:23.080 Now, it's being split 50-50 from the very beginning, and even after that, if the bridge then finally gets paid off, it goes back to 50-50.

00:13:32.020 So if you go 15 years, 50-50, then it could go to 100% Canada maybe for a bit, but then once we hit the $6.4 billion, it goes back to 50-50.

00:13:40.700 This thing may take like 100 years for it to pay itself off. It's absolutely ridiculous that we agreed to this.

00:13:47.380 six, seven years where there really isn't a profit, and that will cut into the actual

00:13:51.620 value of the concession to the Americans. Do you buy that assessment? Does that make sense to you

00:13:56.940 based on how a lot of mega projects and infrastructure projects would work?

00:14:01.120 The concession that would be provided is, I mean, it's a part of clarity that we need,

00:14:05.840 but more importantly, it's a concession. What did we get for this entire negotiation more widely?

00:14:11.200 Here we are sitting as a government and a country negotiating a bridge that Canada paid for that

00:14:16.460 we now need American permission to open, to have access and to fulfill the deal.

00:14:22.680 But more widely, the Gordie Howe Bridge rests alongside a long list of concessions that

00:14:29.340 have been made by this prime minister over the last 15 months on the DST, on the Netflix

00:14:34.420 tax, on defense spending, on the Gordie Howe Bridge.

00:14:38.200 I'm really loving the points he's making here because they're the same points I made.

00:14:41.640 And as always, I would like to clarify, I actually do not preview CBC clips or any news

00:14:45.900 clips I have on the show. I just know what players are involved. I heard that the segment happened

00:14:51.020 and I played it here. So A plus ratings across the board to the way that Chivaloy is talking about

00:14:56.400 this issue, because that is the crux of it all here. How long have we been negotiating with the

00:15:01.460 Americans on trade and have gotten absolutely nothing? We blew past all of Mark Carney's

00:15:06.840 dates for getting a trade deal in 2025. And we're about to have the anniversary of those dates this

00:15:12.740 year and we're making concessions on a bridge and not no one in the room dominic leblanc mark

00:15:17.660 carney anyone else isn't thinking hey how will we tie this to at least getting some tariff relief

00:15:22.580 not even not even considered on i can go on and on these are all piecemeal issues that

00:15:29.020 belong as part of a wider negotiation that canada should be having for north america for the united

00:15:34.700 states uh that span our economic and security interests for 15 months we watched the prime

00:15:40.060 minister gallivant around the world on a range of pet projects, whether it's partnering more

00:15:45.420 closely with Beijing or organizing middle powers in Europe against America, but then reverse course

00:15:51.780 to say that we need to build a fortress North America, that integration actually is important

00:15:57.840 and not subordination, and now these individual issues. I'm wondering what Canadians are actually

00:16:04.060 getting for all of this after 15 months of the prime minister's approach well in that um in that

00:16:10.160 i'd like to understand what we've got from the gordie howe bridge well i i think what seems

00:16:14.240 clear to me uh is that what canada gets is the bridge opens right because because dude david

00:16:20.160 shut up you know we don't get that we already were supposed to have that what is this it's just

00:16:27.060 like if a mugger told took your wallet ripped everything out of it then gave you your wallet 0.98

00:16:31.440 back well we have the wallet still well it's not all you know all is not lost there's no reason for

00:16:36.420 us to you know start start you know taking out the rope and the rickety stool we got the wallet

00:16:41.800 back it's like great and we had to give up all for money to get the wallet what are we talking

00:16:47.280 about david this is this is another agreement no no no look i'm not i'm not okay he knows

00:16:54.200 chavlois is going to call him out and he's like insecure about it what seems clear to me uh is

00:17:01.600 that what canada gets is the bridge opens right because because this is this is another agreement

00:17:06.100 no no no look i'm not i'm not saying it is this is another agreement then it was uh stephen harper's

00:17:12.340 government that that did the bridge agreement that the u.s has reneged on and insisted on some

00:17:17.660 sort of reopening and a change in terms do you notice the little rhetorical pivot he just did

00:17:23.340 there. Chavloy basically checked him very, just, you know, just kind of gave him that little bit

00:17:27.560 of rhetorical wink at that. I know exactly what you're doing here. You're trying to pretend this

00:17:31.400 is somehow Mark Carney snatched victory out of the jaws of a defeat. No, this is him snatching

00:17:37.380 defeat out of the jaws of victory. And now he's like, no, no, no, I'm not saying that it's a good

00:17:42.580 thing just because it's opening on time, even if we gave all this stuff up. But, you know, and then

00:17:47.080 what did he say here? I'm almost forgetting it was so stupid. 1.00

00:17:50.040 done and insisted on some sort of reopening and a change in terms agreement. Then it was 0.99

00:17:56.620 Stephen Harper's government that that did the bridge agreement that the U.S. has reneged on.

00:18:01.420 Oh, yeah. And now he's now he's pivoting to, well, the U.S. reneged on the deal.

00:18:06.700 Well, really, we should all just be sitting around blaming Donald Trump. If you think about it,

00:18:11.300 we should blame Donald Trump. Do I blame Trump and the Americans for having challenged the bridge

00:18:16.500 deal? Yes. Yes. But it happened. Now, what is Mark Carney going to do? Because we can't keep

00:18:24.020 going back to, well, you know, well, Donald Trump did something. It's like, you're the leader of

00:18:31.120 Canada. You're the leader of a G7 country. Can you put your big boy pants on for like five seconds

00:18:35.680 here and figure out how you could maybe use your expert negotiating skills to get us out of this

00:18:40.780 one? You've dealt with Donald Trump before, as Mark Carney said at one of his liberal leadership

00:18:45.400 campaign stops. I've dealt with Donald Trump before. Do it again? I don't know. I feel kind

00:18:54.680 of stupid even having to suggest that maybe you do the thing that you said that you can do. 0.73

00:19:00.260 But again, David Cochran here wants the viewership. He is a media flack for the Liberal Party, 1.00

00:19:06.000 and he wants the more default voting Liberal audience of the CBC to be like, no, no, no,

00:19:11.740 It doesn't matter how badly Mark Carney messed up. Remember, it was it was Donald Trump's fault for throwing a problem at him, because as we know, prime ministers aren't supposed to be able to solve problems.

00:19:22.860 They're not going to be supposed to be able to talk tough and play hardball. No, not not the prime minister of a country. That's an easy job.

00:19:29.660 That's like a country club lounging around Chubb. Donald Trump just like, you know, pulled off of Pearl Harbor on Mark Carney.

00:19:38.680 What is he supposed to? What is he supposed to do something about it?

00:19:43.500 Gaffa, sir. And insisted on some sort of reopening and a change in terms because the bridge does land on the U.S.

00:19:51.180 side and customs is controlled by the federal government, even though the partnerships with Michigan and they use that leverage to extract this,

00:19:57.460 extract this concession, whatever it is. Now, I've tried to get a sense of the dollar amount,

00:20:02.280 at least the order of magnitude of what the profit sharing could be. And as we are having

00:20:06.320 this conversation, I have no clarity on that. So it's one of two, three conclusions. They don't

00:20:11.240 know, which I think is unlikely. It's so big they don't want to say because it's embarrassing or

00:20:15.860 it's not that meaningful. And they don't want to say because they don't want to antagonize the

00:20:20.000 president. It's got to be somewhere in that range of options, it seems to me. But it doesn't seem

00:20:24.560 like we got anything except the bridge is opening at the end of the month. I agree with you we didn't

00:20:29.500 get anything. Finally David Cochran got back to like rational thought for once in his life and

00:20:34.560 realized that we didn't get anything. Before this and that's my big concern you know I had been an

00:20:41.220 advisor to Stephen Harper and John Baird in the time that this bridge had been negotiated. The

00:20:47.220 relationship with the United States that Canada holds is a wide-ranging and very complex relationship

00:20:51.860 of many issues spanning our entire economies and our security framework. What we have seen in the

00:20:59.420 last decade or so is the emergence of China and its weaponization of commercial relationships, 0.95

00:21:05.160 which have profound consequences for our energy, our infrastructure, our investment, 0.94

00:21:10.400 and our security posture. Now, KUSMA, through successive American administrations, Republican

00:21:17.840 and democrat and the congress has been principally about how we manage our security and our prosperity

00:21:24.720 in this context and in that the negotiation approach that canada needed to bring to washington

00:21:31.200 when it came to something as vital to our future as kuzma and tariffs and these individual issues

00:21:37.760 like the gordy howe bridge are needs to sit back and say there's a wide array of issues that are

00:21:43.360 the canadian interest and on those interests we need to sit across the table from washington

00:21:48.240 and come to a wider deal the longer we dilly daddy and donald around on these issues

00:21:53.840 and not come to an actual agreement on how canada will survive and succeed in north america

00:21:59.440 the more vulnerable we will be to ad hoc negotiations like we've seen the one imposed

00:22:04.400 on the gordy howe bridge i mean the prime minister has our sympathy for dealing with

00:22:07.600 an unpredictable and tough negotiator in washington he does not have our sympathy

00:22:11.680 from not having been serious about the success of Canadian workers

00:22:15.180 over the last 15 months.

00:22:16.940 Exactly.

00:22:18.040 And, of course, we have David Cochran coming in 0.79

00:22:20.460 with a machine gun of butt-butt-butts here.

00:22:23.480 Chevalier Majumdar is a fantastic U.S.-Canada critic.

00:22:29.040 I think he'd make a fantastic foreign affairs critic

00:22:31.320 if Aliyev becomes prime minister.

00:22:34.440 Yeah, Mark Carney, we could always say,

00:22:36.680 the Carney liberals always want you to be sympathetic.

00:22:39.440 You know, Trump can be unpredictable in all this.

00:22:41.680 Okay. Trump's also not that complicated of a guy. He wants a win. You have to figure out a way of

00:22:47.460 giving him a win while also being able to carry away a win yourself. The problem is, is the way

00:22:52.720 that Mark Carney has perched himself in this situation is he has made it that I'm going to do 0.99

00:22:57.860 what is the best for Canada and I'm not giving the U.S. crap. I'm going to get the perfect deal 0.94

00:23:03.220 for Canada. And he has absolutely made perfect the enemy of good, which means that we're not

00:23:08.580 getting a deal. 15 months and you can't figure out a way of engaging with the Americans. And

00:23:13.080 every time that there's an update on where the trade deal is at, which usually is nowhere,

00:23:18.640 it's always the Americans telling Canadian media what's going on. Because the Canadian government

00:23:22.680 doesn't really think that we deserve to even know. It's actually just gross that we are not

00:23:28.840 even allowed to know even the vaguest details of where we are at. I'm not asking them to spill out

00:23:34.280 their strategy on the floor and make themselves look stupid. I'm just asking to say, are we 1.00

00:23:39.500 horse trading on specific small details of products that they want to keep tariffed and

00:23:44.280 things that we want to keep tariffed for our supply management system and whatnot?

00:23:48.360 Are we going to lower them? Is it going to get to zero? Are we going to be able to, you know,

00:23:52.560 what's going on? And we have nothing. It's like Pete Hoekstra, the US ambassador having to tell

00:23:57.320 Canadians where things are at, making him a better representative for Canadians, oddly enough,

00:24:02.520 than our own government at times, and he's definitely not here for our own interests.

00:24:07.540 But yeah, I think this has been so far a masterclass from Chivalry Majumdar with David Cochran.

00:24:13.260 From not having been serious about the success of Canadian workers over the last 15 months.

00:24:17.760 But what evidence is there that Canada is the one dilly-dallying on this, Mr. Majumdar?

00:24:22.640 Because if you look at everyone who came to an agreement with Trump at some point,

00:24:26.520 those have been reneged, altered, changed, at least once if not multiple times.

00:24:30.840 yes but notice they have agreements they have something yes maybe it does the agreement get

00:24:36.240 a little worse because then trump pushes a little bit at the last second or even after the ink is

00:24:40.220 dry he still wants a little bit of an amendment sure they got something but david cochran is here

00:24:45.740 like well you know it's it's been the it's been the trump administration really dilly dallying

00:24:50.720 you know uh back me up back me up carny government what do you mean no what do you mean no what do

00:24:56.480 mean he won't back me up? Well, take my word for it, viewers. It's obviously been the Americans

00:25:02.060 dilly-dallying. And at any moment here, Carney's people are going to come into my studio and tell

00:25:07.520 me where we're at and how much we're winning on it, right? Right? They left. They left. That was

00:25:14.580 my impression of David Cochran being panicked about his belief in the liberals. You know,

00:25:20.380 the court in the United States today rejected an agreement that an out-of-court settlement that

00:25:25.420 president trump had with the irs accusing him of essentially self-dealing with his own government

00:25:29.860 to get rich and has referred as lawyers to the bar uh in florida for discipline i mean this is

00:25:34.780 what does that have to do with anything like we could if this was an american show on fox news

00:25:42.140 would they be bringing up like mark carney's entanglements with brookfield and all those

00:25:46.260 conflicts of interest if if trump was not the one getting a deal done like he was the one

00:25:50.620 dilly-dallying would that be what we would be talking about like shut up david not a normal

00:25:55.740 administration uh uh that that any government is dealing with globally they seem to be the problem

00:26:01.940 on a global level so why would it be canada that is the problem here

00:26:06.300 well mr majumdar i just took i i just said i just rambled on for about a couple minutes there

00:26:15.640 to get to the point where I just said,

00:26:17.460 well, it's the Americans' fault, isn't it?

00:26:19.400 It's like, he's just trying to set up

00:26:22.040 Chevalier Majumdar and the Conservatives

00:26:24.000 to say, oh, no, no, no, it is Canada's fault.

00:26:27.540 It's not, he wants it to be like a,

00:26:30.200 well, why are you defending the Americans?

00:26:32.740 They're so unreasonable. 0.65

00:26:33.540 Why are you defending them, Mr. Majumdar?

00:26:36.140 Why are you doing that?

00:26:37.420 And hopefully he does not at all 1.00

00:26:39.620 take this stupid bait and says like, 1.00

00:26:41.500 no, no, no, you can say 1.00

00:26:43.380 that your negotiating opponent

00:26:45.180 is unreasonable you said you could get a deal where is our hardball where is our leverage

00:26:50.540 that that is the problem you can if he's not willing to move and he's being unreasonable

00:26:54.620 make him move do something to make him move we've tried nothing so far and it appears we're all out

00:26:59.420 of ideas oh look even on something as recently as a week ago we've seen that the canadians uh

00:27:05.340 that mark carney did not send the kind of representation we needed to on uh forced labor

00:27:11.180 products you know conservatives have been raising this issue for years that we have deep concerns

00:27:15.420 about forced labor products particularly but but the question was what evidence is there canada is

00:27:19.580 the problem in the modern oh my goodness my goodness david he's the man is answering the

00:27:25.020 question just because you are not intelligent enough to understand the answers doesn't mean

00:27:29.980 that they are not being given what is somebody needs to open up the metal door at the back of

00:27:36.540 of David's head and like fix his wiring because literally Shavloy Majumdar is saying, at least on

00:27:42.780 a rhetorical level, Canada is refusing to even show up and defend itself on forced labor products

00:27:48.040 because Canada has been integrating more with China and we're not doing a good job of actually

00:27:52.960 making sure forced labor involved products are not being shipped into our economy and could get

00:27:57.780 shipped over into the American economy without them knowing. That is his point, is that Canada

00:28:03.680 has been basically too shy to actually show up and defend itself to make its own case

00:28:08.160 because it they did kind of checkmate us on that one about saying hey we want to have strong

00:28:14.440 tariffs on any forced labor products coming into our country and canada has like no clue how much

00:28:20.160 intertwining our supply chains have with like uyghur muslim slaves in china and other things

00:28:26.220 like that going on in in the people's republic of china relations with the u.s you asked where 0.56

00:28:31.660 dilly-dallying. Yeah, you're asking where we're dilly-dallying. So here's a major tariff issue

00:28:34.840 on supply chains for forced labor products that Canada barely wrote a note and sent in an incomplete

00:28:40.540 note rather than an actual representative like the Mexicans and the Peruvians did.

00:28:44.980 Here's some big decisions Canada could have been making to build incentives and great leverage for

00:28:49.700 our country's future. The first is to establish, as Pierre Palliv has suggested, a strategic

00:28:55.380 preserve of NATO-grade critical minerals and for energy security in the world. The second is to

00:29:01.180 unlock our resources through removing anti-development, anti-pipeline, anti-shipping

00:29:05.900 legislation to cancel the industrial carbon tax. And this is important because we are talking about

00:29:10.860 trillions of dollars of Canadian commodity strength that should be shovel ready and approved within

00:29:15.820 six months and capable of being able to access international markets, including the United States.

00:29:21.420 We should be rebuilding our auto pact with the United States when it comes to our auto workers

00:29:26.700 with uh auto pack 2.0 which would increase production we should be advancing our defense

00:29:32.300 industrial base we have seen that there are massive shortages of um the kinds of things

00:29:37.660 that defend the free world and canada ought to be a major producer these are all domestic decisions

00:29:42.460 that build strength and give us the opportunity to engage not just america but the world with

00:29:47.180 strength right none of those decisions have been made that's that's where this government has been

00:29:51.180 been dilly-dallying. And even during Kuzma negotiations, we have seen a liberal minister

00:29:56.300 after liberal minister from industry to heritage go to Beijing to negotiate God knows what,

00:30:01.700 instead of going to Houston, Florida, New York, Los Angeles. So I know exactly what serious

00:30:08.260 negotiations should look like, and that's not what we've seen in 15 months. Okay, but again,

00:30:12.600 that is an assessment of what your problem is. David, stop talking. What problem do you have

00:30:21.020 with what he said. He was talking about domestic policy issues that make Mark Carney and the

00:30:25.220 Liberals hesitant to want to go talk to the Americans because they detect that they don't

00:30:29.260 have leverage and they don't want to get to the negotiating table and they have no leverage.

00:30:33.860 Chivalry Majumdar is pointing out they have not built up leverage. They have not been actually

00:30:37.820 engaging in negotiations. We didn't even send anyone to basically contend for aluminum and

00:30:42.900 steel workers when the Mexicans did. We were completely absent from the meetings.

00:30:47.180 and he answered the question perfectly and he's like no but with mr majumdar i actually asked

00:30:53.960 an even more oddly specific question that i didn't actually tell you about until now but i'm trying

00:30:58.940 to signal to the audience that somehow you didn't answer it correctly you know he answered it with

00:31:04.120 flying colors you didn't like the answer because it didn't end with somebody kissing mark carney

00:31:08.920 on the face priorities would be versus what their priorities seem to be not that i think our

00:31:14.360 priorities well but but but i understand but my question was about what evidence is that canada 0.98

00:31:23.140 is the problem here because all of the public evidence um yeah no okay that's a stupid category 0.99

00:31:29.520 that's a stupid that's a category or it doesn't matter who the problem at at the end of the day 1.00

00:31:35.680 we can't control whatever problems are present from the u.s administration we can only we can 1.00

00:31:40.320 only make ourselves better. We can only improve our own bargaining hand. We can only make

00:31:45.580 ourselves a stronger economy for more leverage. You just look, but does that make Canada the

00:31:52.080 problem? Who cares what the problem is? How are we dealing with the problem? And Chevaloy pointed

00:31:58.120 out, we are dilly-dallying on actually raising our bargaining position and actually engaging

00:32:04.720 in the important discussions we have to have to get to a trade deal. What is your problem with

00:32:09.560 David. Basically, every big issue on Earth right now that involves the Americans seems to be that

00:32:15.080 it's their use of their leverage and their economic dominance against their historic allies 0.54

00:32:19.640 is the issue everywhere. Well, look at how many times in North America, our friends in Mexico 0.82

00:32:24.840 have been engaging Washington on a range of issues from Chinese products in their markets

00:32:28.920 to securing the borders from criminal cartels. Sure, but they have a different structure of

00:32:32.040 economy. They've been a bigger transshipment point. We're repeating the same state, David,

00:32:36.040 David's so defeated

00:32:38.980 right now

00:32:39.860 this, guys

00:32:41.720 I don't usually do this on the show

00:32:44.460 but I'm going to stop just for a second

00:32:46.960 because I need to take a screenshot of David's face

00:32:49.120 here, this is going to be part

00:32:51.100 of the thumbnail, you're seeing how

00:32:52.880 I develop thumbnails in real time and this is

00:32:55.020 how I'm doing it

00:32:55.680 I wish, Shavloy Majumdar

00:32:58.840 should replace Tim Upo

00:33:00.300 as one of the deputy leaders

00:33:03.360 Shuv's doing

00:33:04.880 an amazing job here and to the point that david cochran looks like he actually he knows he was

00:33:11.640 wrong and that's very difficult because although david cochran is like always wrong it's very it's

00:33:18.400 hard to convince an idiot that they're stupid and david might have just realized it did which is 0.97

00:33:26.300 still the same one that staffs prime minister corney which is that we're allowing america and 1.00

00:33:30.340 Mexico to come to terms on what a North American deal should look like and then impose that on

00:33:35.400 Canada. That was the bad deal we got last time with Justin Trudeau. And the same cabinet is

00:33:39.880 advising this prime minister to do the same thing. We have seen a wait and see approach from Ottawa

00:33:45.420 as opposed to build strength and engage approach that conservatives are offering. And for 15

00:33:50.840 months, it's unconscionable because I'm the one who has to talk to auto workers, lumber workers,

00:33:55.800 aluminum workers, look them in their eyes and explain why they have so much anxiety and uncertainty

00:33:59.600 about their future okay uh chivalry majumdar we're out of time if i do get more information on the

00:34:04.080 tolls we'll have you back transparency is great we love it i'm trying i'm trying man all right

00:34:09.120 we'll talk soon dude david cochran is probably going to call up the liberals after this and say

00:34:13.120 do not put out any more information on the on the gordie howe bridge because then i have to have

00:34:18.240 chivalry majumdar back i've run out of time i don't even have time to do the pure polyette video

00:34:24.160 I promise to do. So promise broken, everyone. We will cover that on another day because this is

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