The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - May 01, 2026


Conservative MP Blows the Lid Off Liberal Floor-Crossing Schemes

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Kelly DeRitter Mark Gerritsen Donald Trump Kitchener Centre Chris Dontremont Marilyn Gladue Edmonton Riverbend Matt Jenneru Mark Carney Michael Ma Francois Philippe Champagne Steve McKinnon Mark Garrison Kelly Derrider Mark Villani Evan Solomon Laurie Idlout Jim Justice Annapolis Edlout and 1 more
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Finally, an MP has done what many have been suggesting, and exposed what the Liberals are trying to do to get MPs to cross the floor. Conservative MP Kelly DeRitter says what the liberals actually said to her, and is quite telling about how shallow this entire thing has been.

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here, and welcome back to the National Telegraph YouTube channel.
00:00:06.540 Finally, an MP has done what many of us have been suggesting, and exposed what the Liberals are
00:00:13.840 doing to try and get MPs to cross the floor. It's been really frustrating since the first MP,
00:00:20.880 Chris Dontremont, crossed from the Conservatives to the Liberals, that nobody was actually saying
00:00:26.580 what the liberals were trying to do to get people to cross. It's always just been vague details from
00:00:33.320 both the people crossing themselves and those who have said that they've been approached. But now
00:00:38.220 we have conservative MP Kelly DeRitter, who is the conservative MP for Kitchener Center, saying what
00:00:45.720 the liberals actually said to her and is quite telling about how shallow this entire thing has
00:00:51.940 been. But before I get into what Kelly DeRitter said, I want to cut to this clip from the CBC
00:00:58.440 from mid-April, where Liberal MP Mark Gerritsen claimed that people are crossing the floor
00:01:04.320 because their principles line up better, which is obviously not true. But I want to play this
00:01:09.780 right before we get into what Kelly says is actually going on. 343 of us from across the
00:01:15.580 country go into that room to debate our ideas. And if after spending a lot of time in that room,
00:01:20.940 somebody says actually you know what i think my values line up better with another political party
00:01:25.720 um i think that it's our obligation to give that person a chance and i welcome it and i think that
00:01:32.820 it's just democracy in action like if that's not democracy then what is i mean if people crossing
00:01:38.740 the floor for shallow petty reasons isn't democracy then what is if if this was a movie
00:01:47.680 and Mark Gerritsen walked on screen,
00:01:50.980 the entire audience would groan and be like,
00:01:53.160 villain, what's the guy's last name?
00:01:55.500 Like Mark Villain or something like that.
00:01:58.040 He just talks like he's in the wrong.
00:02:00.580 He acts so smug and his words are just so sleazy.
00:02:05.400 I don't know how he doesn't understand
00:02:07.080 that he is the villain in the story.
00:02:08.700 I have to back that up a little bit more.
00:02:10.780 Obligation to give that person a chance.
00:02:12.640 And I welcome it.
00:02:14.260 And I think that it's just democracy in action.
00:02:16.540 Like, if that's not democracy, then what is? I mean, it's about exchange of ideas and trying to convince people, you know, that the way that you see things is the way to go forward. So I embrace it. And I think we give everybody a chance.
00:02:29.380 yeah well and because he was right there he was justifying why maryland gladju was taken in by
00:02:35.280 the liberals despite maryland previously being a fairly conservative conservative mp one of the
00:02:40.580 more conservative ones again the democracy in action line oh if this is democracy then what is 0.99
00:02:47.900 oh my goodness even he knows that's stupid i always find every time i look at mark garrison 0.99
00:02:53.340 somehow he's sweating it doesn't matter what he's doing he's just always sweating like a water 1.00
00:02:58.040 Buffalo, no matter what is going on. It's like his pores are rejecting him. I don't know what,
00:03:04.100 but now I'm just being cruel to Mark Gerritsen, but I don't feel bad about it. Anyways, now let's
00:03:09.980 get into Kelly DeRitter talking about what the liberals are actually trying to do to get people
00:03:14.780 to cross the floor, because I find her words quite telling about what is actually going on
00:03:20.780 in the background. Now, obviously she doesn't have transcripts of liberals talking to her.
00:03:25.180 she doesn't have audio tapes. But the details she does give us completely contradict what Mark
00:03:30.720 Gerritsen and the House Leader Steve McKinnon have been saying. This isn't values. It's not
00:03:36.380 principles being more in line with the Liberals. And so you're crossing the floor. They're doing
00:03:40.820 such a good job. Or Mark Carney, such an amazing unifier, has nothing to do with that. Kelly
00:03:47.140 DeRitter is going to tell you what it's actually all about. This isn't something Canadians have 1.00
00:03:51.280 ever seen before. A government trying to convince sitting MPs to switch sides just to build
00:03:57.460 themselves a majority. I know because I was approached by them, because it happened directly
00:04:03.040 to me. I can say plainly what that looked like. First, it was pressure. I was told a candidate
00:04:09.160 would be running Kitchener Centre with support from both the Liberals and the Greens, and that
00:04:13.840 I wouldn't stand a chance as a Conservative. You know what, I'm going to leave that up to the voters.
00:04:19.540 When that didn't work, it turned into compliments.
00:04:23.220 I was told they'd be watching my work on committees, especially on AI and digital policy,
00:04:28.120 and that there could be a spot for me on their team.
00:04:30.660 When that didn't land either, it became about benefits.
00:04:34.700 I was told switching sides would be very good for my writing,
00:04:38.240 giving Kitchener Centre's role as Canada's innovation capital.
00:04:41.780 Let me be clear.
00:04:43.480 I am not turning my back on the people who elected me,
00:04:46.260 and I am not going to help any government build power through backroom conversations.
00:04:52.200 Canada is supposed to run on fair elections and straight answers.
00:04:56.800 Backroom deals like this are not leadership.
00:05:00.120 They're a sneaky power grab and Canadians shouldn't accept it.
00:05:04.860 This is exactly why they need to keep committee structure as elected, not recruited.
00:05:10.800 Yeah, and what she's saying there at the very end is a comment on how the Liberals are now using the newly gotten majority, not through an election, to reshuffle all the committees, including public accounts and ethics.
00:05:24.280 Really, you need to reshuffle ethics to hammer through your legislation. It has nothing to do with it. It's an accountability measure on Parliament.
00:05:31.580 And for some reason, that one desperately needed to be reshuffled.
00:05:35.780 We need to add a few more liberals onto it to make sure that finance minister Francois
00:05:40.180 Philippe Champagne never has to testify.
00:05:42.420 Well, let's go through what she said the liberals were offering her because she actually got
00:05:46.860 pretty specific.
00:05:48.420 Number one was basically they're saying you should come over because we're going to run
00:05:52.920 a strong candidate against you next time.
00:05:54.600 And we've gotten the Greens on board into not running a candidate so that they will
00:05:58.740 so that the left vote will be more consolidated around the liberal and you who only won by a
00:06:03.640 couple percentage points are going to be wiped out because the liberal vote plus the green vote
00:06:07.900 is already more than what you have and look at the polls right now okay strike one that is not
00:06:14.820 a principled reason to have somebody cross the floor for their re-election does it have do they
00:06:20.360 agree with the liberals on anything well no but you could get a re-elected easier that's really bad
00:06:25.500 The second one is basically saying, well, you're so good. You're just so good on the AI file and digital security file. You know what? We might have a place for you in our party. We could maybe have you be like the parliamentary secretary to the AI minister.
00:06:42.080 I think it's Evan Solomon right now. That's a bribe, by the way. That is saying that for no principled reason, you can come over here and we'll give you a job that pays more money because parliamentary secretaries do indeed get paid more money than just a base level MP.
00:06:58.780 you can get paid more to be just an adjunct assistant minister to somebody else if you
00:07:04.660 cross over. Again, no conversation about where we may overlap on the issues. No conversation about
00:07:10.420 how this could actually be good for your riding. And then number three, this is another form of a
00:07:15.840 bribe and in fact is effectively an anti-bribe. Well, if you stay as a conservative, you know,
00:07:23.080 maybe Kitchener Center is just not going to get the federal investments that you want.
00:07:27.520 But maybe that riding is not going to get the innovation grants, and it's just not going to get any of the tech subsidies that we're throwing around. This is like a mafia shakedown. You know, that's a nice riding you have right there. It would be pretty bad if someone set fire to it or something like that.
00:07:46.320 oh, it would be pretty bad if the Green happened to not be running so that the Liberal could get
00:07:50.980 rid of you in the next election. This is, you know, it shouldn't be that difficult for me to
00:07:56.800 express to you that this is very sleazy. And this goes completely against what that, you know,
00:08:04.740 villain character Mark Gerritsen was saying was going on. Oh, people after spending a lot of time
00:08:10.720 in the House of Commons just realized we line up so well on the issues. Really? Marilyn, glad you
00:08:16.440 had been ripping you guys for her entire career. Just suddenly realized she loves the Liberals. 1.00
00:08:21.080 She just loves them. Chris Dontremont, a former progressive conservative politician in Nova
00:08:25.720 Scotia and two to three term conservative MP. Oh, just suddenly loves the Liberals. It just so
00:08:31.400 happened that he was also really ticked off about not getting to be the deputy speaker and make an
00:08:35.940 extra $15,000 a year. It just so happens. Michael Ma, first-term guy, connections with the CCP,
00:08:43.220 just happens to cross the floor after just being in office for like six months. Oh, he just didn't
00:08:48.960 realize that he was really a liberal at heart the entire time. In fact, he probably is just a
00:08:53.240 communist at heart, but you know, whatever. And then we even have Laurie Idlow to the NDP who
00:08:58.140 crossed and Matt Jenneru, who in fact actually lives where I'm currently sitting in Victoria
00:09:03.800 and has been fibbing to stay elected in his conservative riding of Edmonton Riverbend.
00:09:11.000 He didn't want to run as a liberal there, but he also didn't want to have to change riding.
00:09:15.200 So he was just running for whatever party got him into office.
00:09:17.660 So we see with the people who did cross the floor that Kelly DeRitter's, you know,
00:09:23.720 basically what she's, the story she's telling kind of lines up with all of them, except Marilyn Gladjew.
00:09:29.920 Marilyn Gladjew, from, again, talking to former MPs,
00:09:33.460 she's just an attention seeker,
00:09:35.240 maybe didn't feel appreciated enough,
00:09:37.000 didn't feel like she was enough of a star in the Conservative Party.
00:09:39.800 This is her last term, apparently. 1.00
00:09:41.840 And she's just basically thumbing her nose at her own voters 1.00
00:09:45.360 in order to get some headlines. 0.97
00:09:46.940 But all the other ones, idlout,
00:09:49.320 they started investing heavily in Nunavut right before she crossed the floor.
00:09:53.260 We have, with Matt Jenneru, needing to find an easier riding to run in,
00:09:58.160 And, well, you know, Edmonton Riverbend, he can't keep up appearances that he lives there forever when he doesn't. So why not become a liberal right in time to change writings to Victoria in the next election?
00:10:09.260 For Chris Dontremont, he also had been telling people, not only did he want the deputy speaker role, he also was lamenting the fact that he only won the last election in Nackety, Annapolis, and Nova Scotia just by 1% of the vote.
00:10:22.700 Although, you know, he's actually probably, a conservative's probably going to beat him next time, because he only won by 1%, but in previous elections he was winning by like 14%, and that was kind of an outlier election because the NDP lost like 90% of their vote and it mostly went liberal and he still won.
00:10:39.260 But regardless, he's overreacted and then went to the Liberals. 0.97
00:10:43.240 Michael Ma is just like corrupt as heck. 0.96
00:10:45.060 I don't think we really need to go into that one. 0.97
00:10:46.660 But all of them line up into the three categories that Kelly Derrida laid out.
00:10:51.780 It's to get an easier re-election.
00:10:53.920 It's because you're going to get a higher position.
00:10:56.260 And it's because you are also going to have a bunch of money injected into your riding,
00:11:01.020 just as they ended up doing with Nunavut, Burlory, Edlout, the Inuit University,
00:11:06.820 the $900 million highway, all of that stuff is being disproportionately lumped towards her
00:11:13.220 territory that she represents. But now I want to move on to another clip of Kelly DeRitter 1.00
00:11:19.400 talking. This is her in the House of Commons speaking specifically about, basically she's
00:11:25.200 taking a moment to speak on the record about this in the House of Commons, which is a smart move
00:11:30.620 here. I think she should constantly do a podcast tour. I believe she's already been on Juno News 0.94
00:11:35.600 in another show she should just keep going out there and telling people about what is going on 1.00
00:11:40.840 notice how the floor crossers have never actually explained why they crossed the floor 0.95
00:11:44.340 the the only things that they've ever said is in their official crossing the floor press conferences 1.00
00:11:49.920 or in very very short media interviews where it just turns into the mark carney's the man we need
00:11:55.820 right now beep boop oh he's such a unifier beep boop i love him oh the conservatives should look
00:12:02.000 inward. Never any detail, never saying what the conservatives were doing wrong, never really being
00:12:06.860 that specific about what Carney's doing right, and just immediately saying, oh, we should ask
00:12:11.840 the conservatives why I left. Well, you explain the story if it's so good, but here's Kelly DeRitter
00:12:16.680 in the House of Commons. Over the past months, opposition members have come forward to say
00:12:20.980 they've been approached. Conservatives have happened, that conversations have happened
00:12:25.580 behind closed doors pressure subtle or otherwise has been applied and kidding about it these are
00:12:33.420 not rumors these are conversations taking place behind the scenes away from public view away from
00:12:39.040 accountability and i can tell this house i was one of those members who was approached i was
00:12:44.660 asked to cross the floor i was asked to leave behind the people of kitchener center who elected
00:12:49.540 me as a conservative in exchange for aligning myself with the government so yeah i think that
00:12:55.900 this should just be kept up keep banging the drum on this people like tristan hopper uh were very
00:13:01.660 right when he said that conservatives should just come out and give the stories and details
00:13:06.580 a liberal approaches you i would say at this point tape them tape them and release the tape
00:13:11.660 string them along a little bit act like you might want to talk and actually expose just how shallow
00:13:18.400 the offers are. Liberal voters should know what they're voting for, because the liberal vote
00:13:24.100 tends to be very, very few, tends to be fueled by the idea that it's the good people party,
00:13:30.020 it's the tolerant party, it's the fair play party. No, no. Guys, the liberals are acting
00:13:36.900 like the cartoon villain character that they paint of U.S. President Donald Trump.
00:13:42.920 What they're doing is the sort of, like, Democrats in the United States, even though they're actually
00:13:47.860 more prolific for gerrymandering are whining about President Donald Trump's, like, Republicans
00:13:53.180 going around in the different states and redistricting, which makes it easier for
00:13:57.840 Republicans to win. The gerrymandering that Republicans are doing is actually really mild
00:14:03.140 compared to what usually Democrats do, but you will see liberals in Canada also reacting to how
00:14:08.560 undemocratic Trump is while they're sitting in this country, while the party they support
00:14:14.500 are just buying MPs. Has Trump ever bought a member of Congress or a senator or a governor?
00:14:23.480 I don't know. I don't know. I've never seen it. I think there's only been one Democrat who ever
00:14:28.620 really crossed over and became a Republican after Trump was elected. And that was more so because
00:14:33.020 he just was not very much in line with his state in the first place. Jim Justice, I believe, back
00:14:37.780 in like 2017, became a Republican. But that was West Virginia. Of course, he moved over in West
00:14:43.180 Virginia. It was a fluke he ever won as a Democrat in the second most Republican state in the U.S.
00:14:49.120 Anyways, that's my rant about U.S. politics done, but you get my point here. What the liberals are
00:14:54.780 doing is sleazy, and their voters should have to confront what is happening is, in fact, sleazy.
00:15:01.520 You are not voting for a party of principle. It's just a power party. They don't really exist to
00:15:06.360 get anything done, but simply perpetuate themselves, and then they feed left-wing policies
00:15:10.720 who's parts of their base that care about that sort of thing to keep them satisfied and that's
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