In this video, I respond to an American podcaster who thinks that because Pierre Polyev didn t come on to his show, that he is blowing it in Canada and will let Justin Trudeau win again. I explain why this is not the case and why Polyev should go on more independent media shows.
00:00:00.480Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here. I wanted to make this video to respond to this minor controversy out there about Pierre Polyev and his media strategy for the Conservative Party.
00:00:13.220There was this American podcaster, Patrick Bette Davis, who did a big call-up video, which I will be playing some clips from later,
00:00:21.400saying that because Pierre Polyev didn't want to come on to his show, that he is blowing it in Canada and he's going to let Justin Trudeau win again.
00:00:30.940I know I just said Justin Trudeau win again, and it's because Patrick Bette Davis doesn't know anything about Canadian politics and legitimately thinks that Trudeau is still running.
00:00:40.160And he, oddly enough, seems to think that Pierre Polyev failed to beat Trudeau in 2021. That's not what happened.
00:00:46.700But again, when you're talking to people who don't know anything about Canadian politics, everything gets a little bit confusing.
00:00:53.620Now, my take on this, and I might actually want to read some of everyone else's takes,
00:00:57.720people are saying that the Conservative Party and Pierre Polyev just don't do enough podcasts.
00:01:03.360They don't go on enough, you know, independent media shows.
00:01:06.080They need to be out there speaking to people more often because it worked for Trump, it worked for Javier Mellee.
00:01:12.200And I will actually say I kind of agree. Pierre Polyev probably should be doing more media, going on every independent media show he can find that is, you know, respectable.
00:01:23.140Don't go on one where it's maybe clickbait or people just covering sensationalism or whatnot.
00:01:29.720You know, go on people's shows like Juno News. He did an interview with Candace Malcolm over there.
00:01:35.140That was a good move. He should do sit-down interviews with Rebel News, with the Western Standard.
00:01:39.840Do all of it. Because even if it's not the biggest show, Stephen Harper proved, even 10 years after being Prime Minister,
00:01:47.520him going on a YouTuber show with only 300 subscribers, if you saw this,
00:01:52.260he actually generated like tens of thousands of views just going on any show.
00:01:57.120But the thing is that then people are saying that Polyev should be doing American shows like Patrick Beck Davis and Joe Rogan and, you know, Lex Friedman.
00:02:05.900No, he shouldn't. He shouldn't be doing that.
00:02:09.120Do you think at a time with trade tensions with the U.S., it would be smart for him to fly down to Austin, Texas to do podcasts with very Trumpy American commentators?
00:02:20.620I have no problem with Trump, other than the fact I don't like tariffs on Canada and it's a silly policy and whatnot.
00:02:25.620But still, what? Look, no, you cannot go on an American show right now.
00:02:31.840You will be looked at as some sort of like traitor to Canada.
00:04:26.200As in, it doesn't want to go on Patrick Davis' podcast to be asked questions by a guy who doesn't know thing one about Canadian politics.
00:04:34.460Here's a tip if you're ever getting into politics.
00:04:37.940Never take an interview as a politician with an interviewer who knows less than you in, like, a severe way.
00:04:45.220If this guy doesn't know thing one about what he's asking you questions about, that's dangerous.
00:04:51.200Because Polyev, if he went on the PBD podcast, would have looked stupid by association with this guy making wrong assumptions about things that are going on, throwing him strange questions.
00:05:02.420And then Polyev having to be, okay, that's not true.
00:06:38.280Americans, just as much as Canadians, are very aware of people's fake patriotism.
00:06:44.060If you were only doing American media, I'm pretty sure at some point people would call it the fact that you seem to not like Canadian media.
00:06:50.520And again, this thing is currently hurting Mark Carney right now.
00:06:54.620He doesn't really want to talk to Canadian media, especially independent media.
00:07:24.420Moving his company to the U.S. right now hurts him, especially because it's an unendorsement of the economy that he's helped Justin Trudeau build.
00:07:32.000It's so bad that even his company, Brookfield Asset Management, can't survive in the country.
00:07:36.900But again, I find Patrick Bette Davis' point here to be something I see a lot from what I'd call podcast bros, that you should come on my very important show.
00:07:47.600Dude, Polyev could be interviewed in someone's backyard, and the video could be uploaded on a channel with no subscribers, and it would still probably get 100,000 views because somebody would find it and spread it everywhere.
00:08:13.680I know there might be some people here who watch his show, but one, the guy doesn't know anything about Canadian politics, that's already a red flag.
00:08:19.920And two, his show is actually not that big.
00:08:22.340I was scrolling through his YouTube feed for how many views this guy gets.
00:08:27.160It's not terrible, but it's not great either.
00:08:30.520I'm looking at videos that have been uploaded three or four days ago that have 150,000 views, 250,000 views, 300,000 sometimes.
00:08:39.800But the thing is, that's mostly concentrated in the U.S.
00:08:43.000I guarantee less than 5% of those people are Canadians.
00:08:46.300I, in any given video, and it's not because I'm the most popular guy on the planet, far from it, gets more Canadian views on just me talking.
00:08:54.200Because at least I'm actually talking about Canada and people interested in Canadian stuff will come here.
00:11:44.640And PBD is legitimately someone I would consider, unlike the woke right.
00:12:02.660Like, they are somebody who is not actually conservative when you break down their politics.
00:12:07.300But, yes, Patrick Bet-David, last week, and this is the exact same week he wanted to have Pollyov on, that Pollyov's people said no, he had Andrew Tate on the show.
00:12:23.680And he only asked him good, like, nice questions.
00:12:27.940He gave Andrew Tate a back massage on camera, just like Benny Johnson did, just like all these other grifters who want the attention of having Andrew Tate on without ever actually confronting him and saying, hey, you said this, you did this.
00:12:46.020But then somebody I actually like, but I just don't agree with them on this, and I just wanted to highlight their take.
00:12:50.940Like, I can agree with aspects of it, is Rupa Supramania.
00:12:56.120She said in response to Jason Kenney directly said, the reality is that many conservative voters in Canada follow Patrick Bet-Davis, his hugely popular podcast, much as they do Joe Rogan.
00:13:07.380It reflects a new type of conservatism in Canada, something that is already the case in the United States and something many Canadian politicians or conservative politicians in Canada seem to be unaware of.
00:13:17.740And it's worrying when a conservative politician objects to a podcaster giving someone a platform, no matter how objectionable the guests may be.
00:13:25.320Well, the problem is, is when you don't ask the rapist tough questions.
00:13:31.300But she goes on and says, this is language of the woke.
00:13:34.160It weakens free speech and prevents open debate.
00:13:36.180With this type of squeamishness towards those they don't especially like, the conservatives in Canada will bleed part of their base when they're already being seen as indistinguishable from the liberals on many key issues.
00:13:47.060I don't agree that the conservatives are indistinguishable from the liberals on many key issues.
00:13:52.360I made a video, or at least I mentioned this in a video.
00:13:55.280I remember there was a Harrison Faulkner video from a couple months back where he was saying the liberals and conservatives are the exact same on immigration, on foreign policy, on trade.
00:14:48.220But they have very different policies on how things should have been dealt with.
00:14:51.200So the trio liberals don't even give useful aid to Ukraine.
00:14:54.380They give them like winter jackets and chocolate bars and they pay the Chinese to send them drones, which is a little weird when the Chinese are literally on the Russian side and Canada is paying China to send Ukraine aid.
00:15:04.620That's how dysfunctional the liberal party is.
00:15:06.420And then on trade, like, no, they're not the same at all.
00:15:08.700They're not the same, especially just on economics in general.
00:15:11.760But, yeah, this stuff kind of annoys me.
00:15:13.520And it's like, I don't like this idea that I agree.
00:15:17.300Like, the conservatives at many times can be too careful, can be too squeamish about people saying things that are controversial.
00:15:26.860Oftentimes, it's not even controversial.
00:15:28.600Eighty percent of people agree with the person.
00:15:30.820It's just that the media is going to portray it as controversial.
00:15:33.400But that doesn't change the fact that if somebody picks up the paper and reads the article saying, oh, you're against drag queen story hours, oh, you're wanting to put 100,000 cap on immigration, oh, you want to do whatever, whatever, that most people agree with them.
00:15:47.380It doesn't matter what the media spin is.
00:15:48.720People are going to be like, well, I kind of agree with that.
00:15:51.440Like, I don't know what the big deal is here.
00:15:52.920That actually happened in B.C. several times that candidates for the B.C. conservatives were told to shut up about issues that were 80-20 issues that we had 80 percent of people agreeing with us on.
00:16:03.300I had somebody, they got mad at a candidate for calling out having pride progress flags on all the fire trucks in Vancouver, saying that it was ridiculous, it's a waste of taxpayer money.
00:16:11.680And it's basically showing that wokeism is like a new religion that you have to have it on all the fire trucks.
00:16:16.280This person is socially moderate, if not a social liberal.
00:16:19.980And they were complaining about the fire trucks.
00:16:21.600And they were told, please don't talk about it.
00:16:48.600So that's, but then I come back, though.
00:16:51.400And I think that then people like Rupa are doing a big overread of what's going on here.
00:16:57.100I want to highlight one more thing on this controversy.
00:16:59.860Hopefully, you don't think I'm being very tedious in how much I'm covering this.
00:17:03.080But one other thing I want to talk about was actually, well, not talk about, I want to highlight this guy's very good take on this issue.
00:17:10.560It's from his, I believe, his TikTok or his channel or whatever, his Instagram.
00:17:16.460His name is Mario Zalaya, and I want to link his video in here.
00:17:21.240I'm just going to skip ahead to the point where he actually starts talking about Patrick Bet Davis.
00:17:25.040But I thought he actually had a great take on all of this, and I think it needs to be highlighted.
00:17:30.700Again, I'm going to link his video on X in the description below.
00:17:34.260Because, again, and at the top of the comments, I thought he just immediately nailed it.
00:17:38.160So that clown right there is Patrick David Betts.
00:17:42.200I used to have a lot of respect for him until he made that video.
00:17:45.040Basically crying about the fact that Pierre Polyev doesn't want to go on his little podcast.
00:17:49.380Here's the thing about Patrick David Betts.
00:17:51.760Outside of his own American circle, very few people actually know who he is.
00:17:56.540Strategically, it makes absolutely no sense to go to an American country and support an American podcaster.
00:18:03.220And, frankly, he's a very successful businessman.
00:18:05.160But why would he ever go on your podcast when the liberals are being torn apart or going and doing the same on talk shows in the U.S.?
00:18:13.220We're not here to pander to Americans.
00:18:16.160Americans don't get to vote in our election.
00:18:18.360So why would we go on an American podcast?
00:18:20.480Why would you expect Pierre Polyev to do that?
00:18:23.040And the funny thing is, for someone so intelligent, you can tell he's so desperate and so butthurt that he's trying to put correlation as though it's causation.
00:18:30.960That because Meli, the president of Argentina, went on all these podcasts, he automatically, that's the reason, that's the only reason he became president.
00:18:37.920No, he was going to become president anyways.
00:18:40.020Just like Pierre Polyev is going to become prime minister anyhow.
00:19:24.820And it was doubling down on voters Kamala Harris already had.
00:19:28.120Sometimes doing podcasts with people who are in your base is not even a smart move in terms of like a very conservative person who's only going to vote for you.
00:19:38.680Don't go on their podcast and then get into a conversation that's going to be very winding and rabbit-holey.
00:19:44.500And if you say something controversial, I have no problem with someone saying controversial.
00:20:19.100I think they should get more conservative on policy.
00:20:21.500People do not want like something a little bit better than the liberals.
00:20:26.140And I think they are much better than the liberals right now.
00:20:28.120But people want it to be 10,000% better than the liberals.
00:20:30.840So right now, what you need to do as the conservatives is become more aggressive on the issues.
00:20:36.180Because being more aggressive means that you are more strongly indicting the liberals.
00:20:40.620If you're saying that I have to cut this and that spending because it's worthless, I have to cut this taxes.
00:20:45.180I'm going to be removing this program.
00:20:47.420We're going to be capping immigration at this.
00:20:49.780We're going to be deploying this many more police resources to the provinces to crack down on crime.
00:20:54.240By going more on the offensive, what you are doing is also indicting them that because I have to make these big policy moves, it's because you guys messed up so much.
00:21:04.820Anyways, so that should be it for me today.