The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - David Eby’s radicalism will win the BC Conservatives the next election (ft. Bryan Breguet)

00:00:00.000 About a year and a half ago, I think if you were to ask anyone what the most boring provincial election was going to be in Canada, they would, without a doubt, say British Columbia, because it just seemed like it was going to be another default walkover for an incumbent NDP government, and there wasn't really that much to say.

00:00:16.800 Maybe the BC Conservatives grab a couple seats, the BC United, after they changed their name from the BC Liberals, have slipped a bit, but it would just be an election that just sort of shows us in a holding pattern, yeah, maybe some things are new, but we're not going to see the real results of those things until next election.

00:00:33.900 But then BC Premier David Eby decided to do and say as many stupid things as he possibly could over this last year, and we actually have a real provincial race on our hands now, to the point where it looks like it's narrowing down to a race purely between the BC NDP and the BC Conservative Party.

00:00:52.140 And to talk about this today, I have on Brian Breguet, who not only is a guy who likes looking at polls, he runs the polling site Too Close to Call, a professor at the University of Langara, and also the BC Conservatives candidate for Vancouver Langara.

00:01:09.060 So thanks for being on the show today, Brian, and I thought you would have some unique insights for what's going on with David Eby.

00:01:16.020 Hi, yeah, thank you for having me. Love the show and love the opportunity to be here.

00:01:20.480 Yeah, and the thing is too, like obviously you're partisan, I'm partisan too, but I don't think that actually holds us back from being able to just look at David Eby's performance and be able to say what is going on wrong right now.

00:01:34.800 Like I don't exactly want to give him advice to like digging himself out of this hole, that's where my bias comes in.

00:01:40.840 But there is something quite incredible about somebody who, within a year's time, has moved from being close to 50% in the polls, this was actually just back in January, as you would remember it, where there was actually the fear that the NDP could potentially win 100% of the seats in British Columbia.

00:02:00.460 And now we are at the stage where, depending on the poll you look at, either it's narrowing between the NDP and the Conservatives, or the Conservatives are even on top of the NDP, both in popular vote as well as the seat count.

00:02:14.200 So in the last three months, why would you say that we've seen this really tight narrowing in the polls?

00:02:21.800 Like why are the BC Conservatives finally catching a moment here?

00:02:25.640 So I think there are really two factors. The first one is David Eby is a lot more radical than John Horgan, right?

00:02:33.060 So John Horgan won in 2017, won really big in 2020, mostly thanks to COVID, but he was, you know, pretty well liked.

00:02:41.000 I mean, even from people like me on the right of the spectrum, where he was this moderate, classic NDP, blue collar NDP, you know, not the woke urban type.

00:02:52.880 And he was doing an okay job with public finance at least for the first two or three years.

00:02:58.440 So I think when David Eby took over, he benefited from the good numbers and the good management from John Horgan.

00:03:06.780 So, but now that David Eby has been the premier for a while, you know, we start seeing more of who he is and how the province is going.

00:03:15.500 So that's the first factor. The second one, and probably the biggest one, is the fact that British Columbians now have an option.

00:03:24.560 Before the BC Conservatives came up and actually, you know, we are now organized, we have not a full platform, but we have a program, we have candidates, we have two MNAs.

00:03:35.460 Now, before we did this, there was no real opposition in BC. BC United or BC Liberals from Kevin Falcon were pretty much trying to do the Erin O'Toole strategy of being as centrist as possible without, you know, touching any hot topic.

00:03:55.060 They agree with the NDP on decriminalization. They agree with the NDP on SOGI and radical gender ideology.

00:04:01.200 And, you know, the examples, I have many of those.

00:04:04.640 So, so, except until yesterday.

00:04:07.460 I was going to say, except until yesterday when they actually voted with the BC Conservatives on protecting women's sports from biological men.

00:04:15.020 And now suddenly they want to be on the right side of history with the more, it's not even socially conservative, but just socially, like, common sense positions.

00:04:25.060 But the problem is that they have way too long of a history of being exactly like the NDP for this to feel like anything but just an about face on their part.

00:04:34.200 But, like, here's another interesting thing.

00:04:36.600 And then I kind of want to dig into the specific polling that we see coming out of British Columbia.

00:04:41.480 But I think one of the biggest factors right now helping the BC Conservatives, because as you know, the BC Conservative name was basically just reserved by a party who was running a few candidates every election to make sure that they didn't lose it.

00:04:54.100 But after the collapse of social credit, naturally, the Liberals became the Big Ten Party.

00:04:59.160 But one of the biggest reasons why the BC Conservatives are being taken seriously, not just getting, like, 2% of the vote, is because there's a situation federally where the BC, like, the Liberal and NDP brands are just mud at this point.

00:05:13.840 Nobody likes the federal Liberals and the NDP.

00:05:18.620 And now pure Polyev, depending on the poll, maybe I'll just bring this up, because it's decently interesting.

00:05:24.100 Now the federal Conservatives are way out ahead in BC, even though this used to be a far more divided province in 21 – if you can correct me if I'm wrong – in 21, I think technically the Liberals or the NDP slightly edged out the other parties in the popular vote.

00:05:39.300 But then in this leisure poll that just came out yesterday, we have the Conservatives at 50% in BC, and this Abbott's data poll, a little bit less hawkish on the numbers, is showing them at 43%.

00:05:49.300 I don't think that David Eby can survive in a world where he would require, like, about 15%, 16% of Conservative federal voters to be still willing to vote for David Eby, despite the fact that Mr. Polyev and Eby's programs are completely opposite.

00:06:07.100 No, that's a very good point.

00:06:10.100 I mean, obviously my party is riding and benefiting from the fact that Pierre Polyev is so popular.

00:06:16.100 But, you know, Polyev is also popular because there is this rise in people being upset, people who want change, and young people who become more conservative, right?

00:06:25.100 So, I mean, it's obviously two phenomenons reinforcing each other.

00:06:30.100 And it goes back to my point that David Eby's and John Horgan, right?

00:06:35.100 John Horgan was able to attract those federal Tories because he was a blue-collar NDP.

00:06:40.100 But now that we have a Pongrey, Walk, you know, urban NDP leader in David Eby, then he turns off a lot of people on the island, in the interior, or even in the suburbs of Vancouver.

00:06:53.100 And what you also have seen over time is I think David Eby has just been benefiting from the fact that voters don't change their opinion on a leader and a party overnight.

00:07:03.100 Chris from The Great Canadian Bagel, who also does his own sort of polling models, he always has a very strict time delay on when new polling results are actually going to start affecting the current voting patterns.

00:07:16.100 Because people, a poll doesn't come out tomorrow and that's what people are voting, that's the type of people who are engaged, who are calling on the phone, are going to be voting.

00:07:24.100 So, I think that if we see a sustained rise for the BC Conservatives, we can be confident that's not just a fluke where David Eby said something stupid that week and voters who are phoned ended up turning on them.

00:07:36.100 But I want to just bring up quickly the last results we saw from the Main Street poll showing that now the NDP and the Conservatives are tied at 38%, but the BC United are down all the way at 15%.

00:07:50.100 But that wasn't the interesting result for me because it was more so that it was interesting that we had the BC Conservatives with decided voters that were ahead of the BC NDP, which is really funny because, again, it was just a couple months ago or three months ago where you could have the BC NDP at sometimes 18 points above all the other parties, like their next closest party.

00:08:12.860 They were 18 points leading them, and now they are being led and decided voters, which demonstrate that they were just the holding pattern party.

00:08:19.860 And you can probably, this is like the most acute kind of incumbent advantage you can have, that nobody maybe even likes you, but you're ahead so voters have this bandwagoning mentality that, well, he's going to win anyways, I might as well have an MLA from his party representing my riding.

00:08:39.980 But, and then right after that, I want to quickly go to the actual individual issues that BC voters are being polled on.

00:08:47.620 No, you're absolutely right. I mean, for the longest time, I think WDB and DNDP were just riding the high of 2020 and the lack of opposition.

00:08:57.120 So people were not really paying attention. You know, even nowadays, I go door to door almost every day.

00:09:02.860 And quite frankly, most people don't even know there is a BC election this fall, right?

00:09:06.620 I mean, for, you know, better or worse, the average person focuses less on provincial politics than on federal politics, right?

00:09:15.040 They know there's a federal election coming next year. They don't necessarily know that there is a BC one.

00:09:20.340 So if you don't know there is an election coming up, you don't really, you know, look at anything and you're not looking to change.

00:09:26.780 So you pack your vote with the party that was leading. And, but now it's starting to change and pretty quickly, actually.

00:09:34.740 That's always the annoying thing. You get that Powerball mentality with people where nobody likes to vote in the elections that they,

00:09:41.360 their vote actually makes up the largest portion of the voting population in that election.

00:09:46.940 They always vote when like the amount of votes in play are really high. It's like the Powerball because federal, like you start,

00:09:53.320 you get really serious about federal politics, even though in theory you have the smallest chance of your vote making the difference.

00:09:59.860 But then like nobody votes in municipal elections and then provincial is kind of this weird in-between area.

00:10:06.280 And then of course, nominations are just horrifying where there's like five people end up selecting who the MP in their area is going to be for the next 25 years.

00:10:14.060 But anyway, so I want to, maybe I'll start off with this one because I thought this was interesting.

00:10:19.520 It really demonstrates the federal provincial divide that I don't think can maintain itself over time.

00:10:25.600 So we have this poll question that was put out by Ledger and it was, I'm not going to read it,

00:10:31.060 but it was asking BC residents if they supported the acts of tax movement that the federal conservative party leader,

00:10:38.180 Pierre Polyev has been using against the federal carbon tax.

00:10:42.180 And when he had signed that letter to David Eby, just asking him in the nicest possible way,

00:10:47.200 would you will join us and act to the tax movement and remove your provincial tax? 1.00

00:10:51.420 And David Eby effectively insulted anyone voting conservative by saying that, oh, this is just pure poly of stupid baloney factory. 0.99

00:10:58.600 And I actually do serious politics and this is all performative. 0.98

00:11:01.240 But when you actually pull people on what they want to do with the provincial carbon tax, BC, the province who's had the carbon tax the longest,

00:11:09.960 we have only 29% of people opposing removing the provincial carbon tax.

00:11:16.140 And if unsure voters, the 15% still undecided between supporting and opposing, split the way that we already see people,

00:11:22.680 it's just not, it's not going to be like good for the BC NDP because right now they have to run on a lot of turkeys of issues at the moment.

00:11:31.380 So on screen right here, you can see people being pulled on whether the government is doing a good job or a bad job in several issues.

00:11:39.060 And obviously every government will be doing good on something.

00:11:42.720 It's just naturally how it works out.

00:11:44.720 You pull someone on something frivolous, like right here, relationship with the federal government.

00:11:48.940 Are they doing a good job or a bad job?

00:11:50.660 It's pretty difficult to be doing a bad job on something like that.

00:11:54.040 But then when you go down to health care, 68% of residents are saying the BC government's doing a poor job.

00:12:00.500 Street crime, public safety, 68% doing a poor job.

00:12:04.020 Drug addiction, opioid crisis, 76% say bad job.

00:12:07.220 Cost of living, housing affordability, poverty and homelessness, 78% across the board on all of those.

00:12:12.960 And maybe it'd be good to just like say, have you noticed kind of even a mood in your specific riding where if you talk to somebody about the provincial election and they're actually kind of turned on to what's going on in the race, that they just start talking about health care and crime and like the opioid crisis?

00:12:30.260 Yes, obviously.

00:12:32.340 My riding has like three parts, you know, that are quite different from each other in terms of population and voters.

00:12:38.260 There is a big section of my riding around Oak Ridge where, you know, they vote federal conservative and they used to vote BC liberals provincially.

00:12:49.220 This is the part where as soon as you mentioned taxes and deficits, people open up and cost of living, obviously everybody does.

00:12:56.540 But when you go more specific and you mention taxes, of course, they will talk and they will say they're not happy with it.

00:13:02.020 But it's really amazing for us how dogmatic WDB has been under carbon tax.

00:13:08.220 I mean, this tax is dead.

00:13:09.500 Everybody hates it.

00:13:10.540 Every premier out there, even liberals ones, don't want it anymore.

00:13:15.460 And we have WDB who keeps going, is happy to increase it.

00:13:20.220 And we're in a province where we don't even get a full rebate, right?

00:13:23.500 So we don't even have this, you know, phony debate as to whether we pay more or less in carbon tax than we receive.

00:13:29.500 We know we pay more.

00:13:30.760 That's a fact.

00:13:31.760 So it's not surprising to see that British Columbians are willing to change on this.

00:13:35.880 Otherwise, you know, yesterday I talked for a good like five, 10 minutes.

00:13:40.300 I wasn't very efficient, but I didn't care.

00:13:42.260 It was an important conversation with an elderly Chinese voter in my riding.

00:13:47.540 And as soon as I went and I introduced myself, she asked me, she asked me two questions.

00:13:52.420 And it was, what's your position on drugs?

00:13:55.280 And what's your position on transgender? 0.59

00:13:58.060 And as soon as I told her, well, on drugs, you know, we think it has been nonsense.

00:14:02.560 We don't need to, we don't want to give so-called free, you know, safe supply.

00:14:07.400 And we shouldn't just let people do drugs everywhere.

00:14:10.260 Of course, right up, you know, she was right away, she agreed with me.

00:14:14.080 And on transgender, you know, I told her that obviously, you know, this is a complicated

00:14:19.480 issue, but, you know, we literally just introduced a bill to make sure that sport is fair between

00:14:25.100 men and women and that parents should be, you know, should have a say, there should be parental

00:14:29.560 rights.

00:14:30.040 And, you know, I'm pretty sure I gained a voter right there in like five minutes.

00:14:34.500 So this is obviously an issue.

00:14:35.900 You know, my riding, one part is very multi-ethnic with a lot of South Asian voters.

00:14:40.760 And we know for a fact, when we talked to them, they don't like their soji and this radical 0.99

00:14:46.660 gender ideology. 0.99

00:14:47.580 So that might not be the main element, you know, I mean, for the average voter, but for

00:14:51.960 some voters, it's really, really crucial.

00:14:53.940 Yeah.

00:14:54.080 And the thing is that that's the funny thing is when we go through every single one of

00:14:57.300 these issues, because even though parental rights wasn't on that list, we just looked

00:15:01.040 at from federal polling, we know across the country, it's like 80% popular.

00:15:05.520 The concept of parental notification and consent, it's extremely popular and it demonstrates

00:15:11.220 the media advantage and the kind of cultural momentum advantage you have as a more left

00:15:16.520 wing party, like the MVP.

00:15:17.780 You can get me getting squashed on literally every single issue, but there's kind of this

00:15:22.720 like middle-class nervousness about opposing the current sort of left wing orthodoxy in the

00:15:28.860 public.

00:15:29.160 And what I thought, and maybe you can say if this is what the impression you got from

00:15:34.080 the MVP, what I thought David Evie was doing by going after Polyev is he thought it was

00:15:38.480 going to be this great little populist moment where he was going to jab at Pierre and his

00:15:44.020 base was going to get fired up, always taking it to the terrible man with no glasses down.

00:15:49.600 Now, look at that.

00:15:50.380 It was somehow going to be this thing where he's now stood up to the werewolf and he's

00:15:53.980 coming back to win his provincial election.

00:15:55.500 When I don't think he realized that probably Polyev is a far more popular and well-liked

00:16:00.820 politician than David Evie is, there's a difference between having a decent approval rating and 0.96

00:16:06.220 then actually being liked.

00:16:08.280 That's the funny thing.

00:16:09.540 Blaine Higgs in New Brunswick, second least popular premier in the country, or I think

00:16:14.320 actually the least popular premier in the country, but the people who like him really

00:16:17.940 like him.

00:16:18.800 But when you go to David Evie, second most popular premier in the country, but I don't

00:16:22.600 think you could actually find that many people who are diehard David Evie fans.

00:16:27.040 They're purely voting for him for pragmatic reasons.

00:16:29.480 And the problem for him too is people could easily still go and vote for first to no and

00:16:34.880 the greens.

00:16:35.540 That's also why this abacus data poll, which is a little bit nicer on the NDP federally.

00:16:42.080 That's why this should be terrifying.

00:16:43.660 Because the thing is that with 43% of people voting federal conservative, with 11, 9%, 9

00:16:49.740 to 11% of people still voting green, David Evie is working with less than 40% of voters

00:16:55.760 that he could possibly win.

00:16:57.820 And that's not exactly a guarantee, especially when United might end up becoming the spoiler

00:17:02.680 party for the NDP.

00:17:04.060 It's kind of like the American presidential election right now, where at times people thought

00:17:08.840 that RFK Jr. is going to be a spoiler for Donald Trump.

00:17:11.340 But now it looks like it's going to be a spoiler for Joe Biden when, if the BC Conservatives

00:17:16.800 defund the United of all their more conservative voters, well, then they're just left as the

00:17:21.660 party that you vote for if you're too nervous to vote for the NDP.

00:17:25.480 Not exactly that.

00:17:27.140 I'm very glad you mentioned it because, you know, everybody, a lot of people are always

00:17:31.620 telling us, oh, you guys should merge, right?

00:17:33.640 BC Conservative and BC United.

00:17:35.880 How come you guys cannot make a deal?

00:17:38.080 And honestly, you know what, they really don't want to, even if you wanted to.

00:17:42.400 So, you know, that's the end of the story.

00:17:44.800 But even there, I actually think we're at the point where we benefit from BC United remaining

00:17:50.640 as this small, tiny, you know, Alberta party of BC, where exactly they're going to get

00:17:57.180 maybe 10%, 12%, and essentially all their voters will be federal liberals who don't

00:18:03.720 want to vote for David E.B., but they wouldn't vote for us if the party didn't exist.

00:18:09.260 So, and, you know, that's why we see now polls where we are winning in the projections,

00:18:14.360 despite BC United not being at zero.

00:18:16.460 So that's a really important factor, I think.

00:18:18.620 And, you know, how much of the collapse and how much of the conservative voter of BC United

00:18:23.220 we were able to get.

00:18:24.560 The other factor, to go back to David E.B., is, you know, he did well when he managed

00:18:31.240 to win Vancouver Pond Grey in 2013 against Christy Clark, right?

00:18:37.100 And so he won in his riding, and now he's very safe in his riding.

00:18:41.560 But his riding is a pretty good example of those, you know, voters who have realigned

00:18:47.480 over the last 10, 15 years, so, you know, rich urban voters who used to vote, you know,

00:18:54.620 liberals or conservative, now vote left, right?

00:18:58.040 I mean, we see it in the States as well, where the Democrats are now winning in Orange County,

00:19:01.980 for instance.

00:19:03.620 And so what I want to say here is, David E.B. has done well with a specific demographic.

00:19:09.700 It has never been tested versus the general population.

00:19:13.060 The only time we could have had a look at how good he was doing with everybody was the

00:19:17.960 leadership race, but then they rigged it in such a way that he was the only candidate

00:19:21.800 and he just got acclaimed.

00:19:23.900 So he never had to go win suburban voters or people on the island or people in the interior.

00:19:31.440 So he's completely untested, and I'm not super confident he can really win those voters.

00:19:37.200 He has already torn down his activist, radical, you know, personality he used to have like

00:19:43.560 15 years ago.

00:19:45.020 He's literally wrote books on how you can sue the police for frivolous reasons to get money

00:19:49.600 back.

00:19:49.760 Yes, exactly.

00:19:50.840 I mean, I think the David E.B. back then would hate the David E.B. of today, but even the

00:19:54.660 David E.B. of today, he's still, you know, exactly.

00:19:56.800 You still see this radicalism.

00:19:58.880 You see it when he gets rid of a Jewish cabinet minister because he's the radical members of his 0.81

00:20:05.400 party, though, don't want her to be in the cabinet. 0.99

00:20:08.160 The biggest mistake of this week almost is him even trying to recognize Passover.

00:20:12.720 It's like, dude, David, it's like, or it's like Jewish, Jewish heritage bunch. 0.99

00:20:15.880 It's like, David, shut up. 0.99

00:20:17.260 Just put the, put the phone down. 0.99

00:20:19.060 Stop tweeting.

00:20:19.980 Like the thing is, you're going to make, you're going to remind people of what you did.

00:20:23.380 Same thing with, with Jagmeet Singh and like the NDP voting in favor of Hamas.

00:20:27.880 Just don't do it.

00:20:29.680 There's just so many negatives.

00:20:30.960 But the funny thing is, remember when David E.B. was first in, and he was thinking about

00:20:34.820 scrapping like safe supply and decriminalization altogether.

00:20:40.300 And then his radical base clubbed him back into line because this is why now when he's 0.98

00:20:44.780 trying to kind of walk back decriminalization a little bit, one, it's just pathetic. 0.96

00:20:50.020 He's like, guys, please don't use meth right in front of the school. 0.97

00:20:54.460 Just do it like across the street in front of that poor woman's house. 1.00

00:20:57.740 Like that's effectively what he's telling people to do with the new, like, just don't

00:21:01.560 use drugs in public parks.

00:21:03.220 It literally changes nothing.

00:21:05.280 There is like 1% of land now in any given town or city that you're no longer allowed

00:21:11.180 to smoke crack on.

00:21:12.480 And he lets people encamp in these parks, even though that's illegal.

00:21:15.960 And so the idea that he's actually going to enforce these laws is insane.

00:21:18.760 But the thing is, he also has no credibility on it because he has said he's made noises

00:21:23.260 about moderating before, and then his radical base pushed him back into line because he

00:21:28.260 is in such a, like a bubble of these are the only people he talks to.

00:21:32.380 So they, 100% of them said, what are you doing, David?

00:21:36.100 Why aren't you giving free drugs to people anymore?

00:21:38.640 And then he's like, oh, I'm so sorry.

00:21:40.400 I can't believe I was being so conservative.

00:21:42.280 And then he went back to where he was at.

00:21:44.500 So now when he's like, he's not even going as far into moderating as he was pretending

00:21:49.220 to a year and a half ago.

00:21:51.320 And so now it just looks like he's just basically conceding that John Rusted and the BC conservatives

00:21:55.960 are right.

00:21:56.840 And then he's not going to do anything on the issue because nobody's going to remember

00:21:59.660 on voting day.

00:22:01.260 Oh, remember when he started trying to walk back the criminalization?

00:22:03.780 Well, that was a really good, moderate, mature move because it will have no effect by election

00:22:08.780 day.

00:22:09.060 There's not going to be people, you're not going to like be walking around the streets

00:22:11.980 and noticing fewer drugs and needles everywhere.

00:22:15.520 This is especially the case, right?

00:22:17.040 Because we know the modern left is so obnoxious, right?

00:22:20.760 On those issues, right?

00:22:22.160 And so just six months ago, just four months ago, when, you know, people like me were saying

00:22:27.460 we shouldn't give free drugs to people, you know, not only they were against us, but they

00:22:32.280 would mock us, right?

00:22:33.380 They would be like, oh, you guys really don't know anything.

00:22:35.580 You need to follow the science.

00:22:37.260 They need to listen to the experts.

00:22:39.180 And so they were so strong, you know, sort of their, you know, themselves, saying to themselves

00:22:44.480 until very recently that people remember this.

00:22:47.360 So now, you know, if you switch back and you say, oh, but we've asked the federal government

00:22:51.620 to recriminalize drugs.

00:22:53.920 I mean, A, you look like you flip-flop and B, as you said, people will not forget.

00:22:58.360 You have zero credibility on this issue, especially against a party like mine, where we have been

00:23:03.800 consistent throughout, right?

00:23:05.700 And it's really helping us, this issue right now, because both the NDP and the BC United,

00:23:12.340 I mean, they used to be all in on decriminalization.

00:23:15.520 And now they're all pretending that they are not in favor and, you know, they want to do

00:23:20.480 this common sense. 0.95

00:23:21.540 I mean, we talk a lot about David Eby, but Kevin Falcon is way more pathetic on this issue. 0.82

00:23:26.980 I mean, because we have recording of him just like nine months ago going on a talk show 0.66

00:23:31.620 and saying, oh yeah, of course, this is a good idea.

00:23:34.160 And now all of a sudden he saw the polls in the fall and he decided to reprint himself

00:23:39.200 as this common sense conservative.

00:23:41.820 And that doesn't work.

00:23:43.220 This is really hilarious.

00:23:44.500 Every time I see him trying to ride the Poitiers train because he has zero credibility and

00:23:50.580 we know he doesn't believe it.

00:23:51.820 He doesn't believe it.

00:23:52.760 He's a liberal at heart.

00:23:54.740 His number two, Michael Lee, who is my opponent in the writing, is the same.

00:23:58.420 He has been so, so quiet on this issue.

00:24:00.740 You know, usually he's very, you know, he's with Kevin Falcon and his party all the time.

00:24:05.500 They make sure to bring him along.

00:24:08.800 And all of a sudden we never see him on any of those issues where there was the big fight

00:24:12.540 in Richmond to prevent a safe injection site.

00:24:16.500 He wasn't there, even though every time, you know, it's something that affects the Chinese

00:24:19.940 community, he would be there.

00:24:21.780 So, you know, this tells me that, you know, at heart, he actually wants the criminalization.

00:24:26.780 He wants a safe supply.

00:24:27.880 He's a liberal on those issues and he's very uncomfortable with his, you know, the phony

00:24:33.940 switch of his party.

00:24:36.240 Maybe you can answer me this because when I don't live in British Columbia, it's just

00:24:41.440 confusing looking at how the BC United operates.

00:24:44.420 Because in these polls, like the BC United has 15% then with the side voters, even if

00:24:48.700 you identify them as the liberal party, because that's the party people know them better as

00:24:52.700 only 16% people like who, who is the BC United voter at this point?

00:24:58.140 And are they still willing to cross over to the conservatives or is this more so just

00:25:03.440 become the receptacle for like federal liberals?

00:25:06.280 So I think it's mostly two types of people.

00:25:09.220 The first type is the Jean Charest type of conservative voter.

00:25:13.500 You know, the one where during the leadership in 2022, they would go on Twitter and be super

00:25:18.040 annoying and be like, oh, if party of wins, I will, you know, cancel my membership.

00:25:22.820 I cannot vote for such a populist leader.

00:25:26.280 And so, so you have a few of these people who, again, if the party didn't exist, they

00:25:30.660 would most likely stay home or they would vote David AB before they vote for John Verstad.

00:25:34.960 So you have those, they exist, you know, high income or highly educated urban voters who

00:25:40.960 I think would not want to switch.

00:25:42.960 The second group, which I think can be persuaded to switch would be visible minorities, where 0.99

00:25:50.240 just because of the name and the traditions and, you know, the links they historically

00:25:54.100 had, they still vote for the liberals.

00:25:58.780 I mean, do they know that the liberals don't exist in their name, BC United?

00:26:02.800 I'm not sure.

00:26:04.240 But this is one, you know, part of the electorate, which I think they still have to some extent,

00:26:11.040 not a majority, but, you know, a significant share.

00:26:14.240 And so we're working hard on getting, you know, the share of the voters, whether it's

00:26:19.060 the Jewish population in BC, or as I mentioned, the South Asian population where, you know,

00:26:25.260 they vote in group usually, and they might not have changed their mind yet, but it's changing.

00:26:32.600 I think we can, we can feel it on the, on when we go door knocking and when we go to events.

00:26:37.740 Yeah, I was going to say, when you go door knocking, do you still, do you, would you ask

00:26:41.340 anyone who they're voting for?

00:26:42.880 And do you ever have people still say BC liberal because they don't know who the BC United

00:26:46.940 Party even is?

00:26:48.560 So, and this is a true story.

00:26:50.880 I've door knocked now, you know, on, you know, for, for weeks, I've literally only had

00:26:55.060 one person telling me they would vote liberals.

00:26:57.640 And actually, you know, they told me, oh no, in this household, we vote liberal.

00:27:01.560 And I said, oh yeah, but, you know, just to confirm, there is no liberals in the provincial

00:27:05.780 level, they said, oh yeah, no, but the other one, the United.

00:27:08.760 So that's the only voter I've found that told me this.

00:27:13.740 So, so I don't know if they even know it has changed.

00:27:16.900 United's also just such a limp name.

00:27:19.040 I don't even know why you would go to United.

00:27:20.900 I don't know who this appeals to.

00:27:22.120 Because in Saskatchewan, the Saskatchewan United Party is the more conservative party than

00:27:26.860 the, than the, than the Saskatchewan Party.

00:27:29.880 And so in, but so it's, it's such a throwaway name.

00:27:32.520 You could, anything could be United.

00:27:34.020 It's like the, we're going to lose the election.

00:27:36.500 Let's at least pretend like it was, it's a brand that a consultant would come up with

00:27:40.860 that let's, let's throw United in the name because it will make people feel unified and

00:27:45.320 United.

00:27:45.960 And whenever I watch, look at Calvin Falconson's or Kevin Falcon, I don't know how to say his

00:27:51.340 last name.

00:27:51.740 Sorry.

00:27:52.500 But whenever I see his, whenever I see the, the advertisements that his party's putting

00:27:57.700 out, it just feels like limp.

00:27:59.440 Like he's just assuming that it's not a leadership race where by being the most boring man in

00:28:04.260 the room that you're going to get everyone's number two votes.

00:28:06.640 Like maybe he's hoping that David Heavey wants to switch to some ranked ballot right before

00:28:11.080 the election.

00:28:11.900 But like with the, the, the, the BC United embarrassing themselves every time a new poll

00:28:17.720 comes out and says, we're doing 3% better in this one than the other one.

00:28:21.680 And they're like down at like 14% or whatever.

00:28:24.060 I don't know what's like possessing these people, their, their social media, they'll

00:28:29.840 post something, it'll get four likes and they're still using the same old media accounts as the

00:28:34.420 liberal party.

00:28:34.960 So they have a lot of followers and there'll be like 200 comments just roasting them.

00:28:39.540 I don't like, aren't, are they getting to the awards, the end of their war chest?

00:28:43.300 Cause I've been hearing they're spending like hundreds of thousands of dollars advertising

00:28:46.720 themselves.

00:28:47.200 I assume it's because people don't even know who they are anymore, but is there any, do

00:28:51.040 you get any suspicion that this is convincing people or are they eventually just going to

00:28:55.160 run out of money?

00:28:56.780 No, no, it's not convincing anybody.

00:28:58.720 And, you know, when you say it's confusing of what they're trying, well, yeah, it is,

00:29:04.560 but it's because again, I think Kevin Falcon, when he came back and he won the leadership,

00:29:08.760 he really thought that the right strategy was to do the Erino tool strategy of being in the

00:29:13.700 center and kind of upsetting everybody.

00:29:16.120 And, you know, he bases a standard strategy, including renaming the party for this, but

00:29:22.060 so it didn't work.

00:29:23.100 And so all of a sudden, you know, four months ago, they decided to pivot and be this conservative

00:29:27.760 party.

00:29:28.300 We see it in like certain ways, right?

00:29:30.420 When they revealed their new logo, it was a lot of teal and pink, right?

00:29:35.480 To be new.

00:29:36.440 And it looked like an insurance logo.

00:29:38.360 But if you look at their recent marketing, they're going with the dark blue to try to appear

00:29:43.360 more conservative.

00:29:44.000 But if so, so this is a party that most likely, you know, would have been.

00:29:47.880 He also threw some blue in their logo recently.

00:29:50.840 Yeah.

00:29:51.060 Yeah.

00:29:51.520 So this is a party.

00:29:52.500 Those are people who believe that to win election, you have to be united, but you have

00:29:56.960 to kick John Russell out for making a small tweet about climate change.

00:30:01.100 So, you know, they never wanted to actually unite the right.

00:30:03.800 They wanted to force the right to be with them because they had no options.

00:30:07.980 So, so, so, so it doesn't work and where they're going, you know, I will be honest.

00:30:12.520 I mean, until recently, I was kind of scared they would come back because they are the party.

00:30:17.740 We've seen the BC conservative rising in the polls before.

00:30:21.280 And then by election day, you know, we would have collapse.

00:30:23.900 And I always thought, you know, we wouldn't collapse as much because we now organize, we're

00:30:28.420 going to have 93 candidates.

00:30:29.960 But there was always this chance that BC United would all of a sudden become the alternative,

00:30:34.920 like the option that people would consider.

00:30:38.220 I don't think so.

00:30:39.100 I think by now this is lost.

00:30:40.860 And, you know, they spent a million dollars in ads in February and March.

00:30:47.000 And I remember we're talking in the party just before, like, well, let's see, let's weather

00:30:50.780 the storm and let's see where we are in April.

00:30:53.820 If we are back to 15%, then, you know, it's going to be difficult.

00:30:57.560 If we're still at 25 above them, it's going to be great.

00:31:01.160 And, you know, they spent a million dollars on really limpy ads and nothing happened.

00:31:06.960 Well, actually they went from 18 to 15.

00:31:08.960 I really liked the ad where he's like looking out over up here and it looks like this moment

00:31:14.520 in a movie when the hero is just given up or something like that.

00:31:17.860 And he just doesn't, he doesn't feel like there's a way forward.

00:31:20.440 Like all of their ads, like he's like, he's filming on some dark cloudy day or whatever.

00:31:25.240 But, you know, it's just, it's what happens when you let consultants run your party.

00:31:28.880 It's like when Aaron O'Toole is the federal conservative party leader.

00:31:32.280 Yeah.

00:31:32.540 They assume that being inoffensive means that they're liked when that's not really how it works.

00:31:37.880 And every single move that they make is being uninteresting.

00:31:41.800 And that's why they're voting with the BC conservatives on some issues.

00:31:44.260 And they jump back.

00:31:45.080 They're thinking that they're the ones who can't be blamed for anything because they took no hard stances.

00:31:49.000 But taking no hard stances means that everyone thinks that you're also unreliable.

00:31:53.400 Like voters vote for a feeling of safety and stability.

00:31:56.760 And there's nothing safe about United.

00:31:58.820 It just feels like, again, like you're not even insurance company is too flattering.

00:32:03.180 Because at least your insurance company does it feels like that dental office down the road that you've never visited is just a week in like kind of soulless marketing.

00:32:13.100 And they, they like swung and missed so hard when Aaron Gunn was willing to run as their leader.

00:32:20.620 And then they had Ellis Ross as the other option after Aaron Gunn was kicked out.

00:32:25.800 I think even Aaron Gunn was endorsing Ellis Ross.

00:32:28.360 Like he, he was being very classy about the fact that the party basically just kicked him in the pants and told him to get lost.

00:32:35.240 And they completely missed the zeitgeist of politics.

00:32:38.140 And it's not because there's this big populist wave or something like that.

00:32:42.000 No, it's just that probably people expect you to make actual changes, not just running on the change brand where we just say change and nothing actually changes.

00:32:50.400 But like I need you to state on the record, I'm going to end safe supply.

00:32:54.580 I'm going to end decriminalization.

00:32:55.880 I'm going to lower taxes.

00:32:57.500 I'm going to do this, that, and the other thing.

00:32:59.160 Because Vancouver, like Toronto, and just talking about the main cities, has benefited from just being big, from being the big city on the West Coast and the East Coast.

00:33:08.520 Now that's really not good enough because there are much better cities to invest in than the U.S.

00:33:13.760 And so if you're in a down economy, going to think that you can just have high taxes and bring people to your city just simply because it's a big hub is just not true anymore.

00:33:24.760 We've seen cities collapse in the past when they ran out of, when they basically, their usefulness ended.

00:33:31.260 Detroit is a great example.

00:33:33.140 You can be the manufacturing hub, but if you chase all the manufacturers out, you're not going to be bringing people by reputation alone.

00:33:40.640 Seattle's not that far away.

00:33:42.000 There's places you can move your tech company to.

00:33:44.220 And now that's the funny thing is that the NDP and United Brands would represent destroying everything that their main voter base works within, in terms of the white collar downtown Vancouver jobs.

00:33:56.040 They're actively like asking their voters if they'd like to be unemployed.

00:34:01.420 No, that's completely true.

00:34:03.100 And to go back to Kevin Falcon, there's also the issue that this is somebody that left politics in 2012 or 2013, right?

00:34:10.860 So I think we said with Joshua when he came back, those former leaders who, or politicians, who left before social media was the way it is nowadays, I don't think they cut out for politics anymore.

00:34:24.640 Like they come back and they look very rusty and they don't know what to do.

00:34:28.320 And it doesn't have Kevin Falcon that all the talent in his party is gone.

00:34:32.820 It's either gone to us, to Ken Seaman, ABC, or the mayor's office, or with peer quality over the federal level.

00:34:39.300 So, you know, they're now using the B or C team.

00:34:42.540 And so I'm really not surprised now, you know, when you think about it, to see that they're not making any wave or they're not able to generate anything on social media.

00:34:52.500 And to go back to your argument, this idea that the NDP is going against its voters or the people who are now voting for, you know, not traditional voters, but the people who are voting for them at the seat.

00:35:05.460 Yeah, no, we see it. And I think, you know, we saw in the mayoral election last year, where Vancouver, who is quite progressive, quite overall, elected a technically right wing, right of the center mayor, right?

00:35:18.700 And so, you know, Ken Seaman is centrist overall, but he did run a campaign that was on the right, and he won really, really big.

00:35:26.420 So there is this, you know, people who are just unhappy. We see it in San Francisco right now, where whether they have an election or referendum, you know, people just had enough, right?

00:35:36.420 At some point, you know, progressive walk, virtue signaling voters, they exist, but they're, you know, they're overrepresented on Twitter and in the consultancy class.

00:35:50.040 At the end of the day, most voters are still normals, right? They're normies. And they don't like to see drugs next to their playground. They don't like to see crime. They don't like to see, you know, traffic everywhere.

00:36:02.100 So, I mean, when it's time to vote, even then, we won't change at some point.

00:36:07.260 And change in office, depending on the issue, sometimes changes can happen really fast. But when you're actually making bills and you're passing policy, oftentimes change has to be incremental that you see the improvement over multiple years.

00:36:21.940 That's just how it is. I know a lot of voters don't like that. That's just how it works. When you have to balance off interest groups, you have to do a lot of consulting of the community and all that, and it just takes forever to implement stuff.

00:36:32.820 But the thing is, voters do not usually want incremental change by how they vote. This is where, in even my city of Calgary, the reason why we keep ending up with left-wing mayors is because the conservatives who run against them think that, well, Nenshi was just the mayor, Dave Bronconia was just the mayor,

00:36:51.100 or Gondek is now the mayor now. Well, we just have to be a little bit more conservative than her and then kind of represent the improvement. 0.81

00:36:57.460 It's like, no, no, no. If you actually want to win as a party or a candidate against an incumbent, unpopular left-winger, you can't just be the cautious, slightly center-right conservative, because it feels kind of flavorless.

00:37:11.700 Like, I am, it's merely, it's merely saying, you're basically hoping that there's just enough people who say no to the other person and then happen to vote for you, where if you actually want to win, you actually don't sometimes need to be an out-of-the-box party and out-of-the-box candidate.

00:37:27.560 That's where Rob Ford wins Toronto's mayoral race back in the day, because there's no question that he is the most conservative man in the room, and he represents the biggest difference between the current government and now, while also getting things done.

00:37:41.040 That's the difference between United and the BC Conservatives. The BC Conservatives actually feel like a full-throated way of saying, I want something different than the current government, where you have to be in a really weird frame of mind to think, oh, I hate the NDP, but let's not go crazy with the changes here.

00:37:58.200 I mean, I like safe supply just a little bit less. Like, it's the type of voter who's convinced by John, sorry, not John, but David Eby just saying, don't do heroin in the park.

00:38:09.380 There's not many voters who actually think that way. If anything, either if you actually don't not support decriminalization, you still want it to keep around, you probably are of the mind that it needs to be doubled in size.

00:38:21.260 Well, it's just safe supply hasn't been gone far enough. It's like the Thomas Sowell book, Visions the Anointed. Once your current plan fails, it's never because the plan sucked.

00:38:30.720 It's because either the people were bad or because the plan wasn't quite big enough. And imagine all the damage that could have been caused if we didn't do the plan in the first place, even though things got worse.

00:38:40.840 It would have just been twice as worse unless we had done this. And that's the thing with safe supply.

00:38:45.540 I saw David Eby talked about it two days ago saying, well, we've saved so many lives because think about we've increased or like decreased the per capita death to overdose ratio.

00:38:58.100 But the denominator of overdose has gone up significantly. It's been like how many overdoses, maybe like a couple hundred a day to like tens of thousands of potential overdoses a day.

00:39:10.200 And so, yes, someone's having to OD seven or eight times before they die because of all the government services out there to administer like like whatever that fentanyl drug is, Narcan, I'm Narcan or anything else like that or like having like paramedics out there helping people.

00:39:26.020 But that doesn't actually mean anyone's better off. That just means that we have papered over what everything bad happening.

00:39:32.320 Again, it's like the George Carlin joke that we just use soft language to hide real problems that we have safe supply.

00:39:38.340 We have, you know, a compassionate intervention where we have all this stuff like that.

00:39:43.160 But you're not actually making anyone healthier or preventing them from dying.

00:39:47.520 You're just papering over the fact that they're poisoning themselves.

00:39:50.640 But, you know, this is typical of the work left, right?

00:39:54.440 I mean, they love virtual signaling.

00:39:56.380 They're really good at owning the language, right?

00:39:58.980 And setting up the rules of the game.

00:40:01.840 And they really love what looks like simple solutions that but when we dig, they don't work, right?

00:40:08.760 So whether it's for safe supply, I will always go back to anything that has to do with education, right?

00:40:13.580 Because obviously I care a lot about this as an instructor in a college where I see the new kids who come, you know,

00:40:19.940 and I just had a meeting with all the economics department of the province and we all said the same.

00:40:26.020 We said the level in math, for instance, is terrible nowadays.

00:40:29.920 And, you know, the work left is responsible for this, the progressives, because what they have done over the last, you know, 20 years is they started saying, you know, math is racist.

00:40:39.860 Or, you know, math is not, there is a lack of equity if you do tests.

00:40:45.220 And so it's the same logic, right?

00:40:46.920 I mean, they're going to pretend that they want to help.

00:40:50.840 And to be fair, they might really want to help.

00:40:53.060 The problem is the solutions they come up with are completely absurd, nonsensical, and it's just a band-aid.

00:40:58.420 It's just virtue signaling out there.

00:41:00.020 So what do they do in math?

00:41:01.320 They're going to remove honor classes or they're going to remove grades from math classes so that you don't have the worst student feeling bad

00:41:09.100 because they're doing worse and, you know, they're really, really good students.

00:41:11.840 So I think this is just very symptomatic on everything as to what the work left is doing and why this is going so badly and why the West Coast is doing so badly in general.

00:41:23.660 It's a reckoning of what happens when these people are actually in power.

00:41:27.900 Yeah, well, they're pure materialists, and that's why all of their solutions are always focusing on the material aspect of the problem, not the actual mentality and the culture or the philosophy towards something.

00:41:40.300 It's that people just don't have safe enough drugs or they don't have enough, you know, voluntary detox resources out there when the problem is people are becoming addicted in the first place.

00:41:51.240 And they're always shocked that whenever you create incentives for more risky behavior or safety nets for more risky behavior, that you have more people engaging in risky behavior.

00:41:59.400 And you're entirely correct about math.

00:42:00.820 I survived Alberta when we had what we call discovery math, in which I have every progressive teacher say, it's not a curriculum, it's just a pedagogy.

00:42:08.420 But all the new teachers do it because they do whatever they were taught in school.

00:42:11.800 And what they were effectively doing was trying to teach all students math the way a child with genuine ADHD would need to be taught with very broken down steps, like 15 steps to learning a single, a logarithmic problem.

00:42:27.100 And so, and so I'm so confused halfway through the question, because it's been 30 minutes and we haven't done one question.

00:42:33.320 And I don't even know what we're even doing anymore, because we're like talking about the concept of numbers halfway through and what numbers mean.

00:42:39.960 Like, that's great if you you're someone who has just a way of thinking where you need everything really, really well explained and defined, but it destroyed my ability to know math.

00:42:48.840 So I even almost had to take dash one high school math over again, because we, well, that's another issue.

00:42:55.860 We had like everyone in my class was like, there's like 15 people in my class and they were all like crazy good at math.

00:43:00.440 And my teacher had the idea that everything has to be a 60% bell curve, which just been kicking me in the corner.

00:43:06.240 But regardless, it was, I still experienced that.

00:43:08.560 And it's just a horrible way of doing it.

00:43:10.300 But that was a bit of a weird tangent on the way out of this, but I won't keep you here too much longer.

00:43:16.120 But I wanted to show on screen what your writing is.

00:43:18.580 So guys, if you live in this part of Vancouver, this is where Brian Breguet is running.

00:43:23.180 It's an old map, by the way.

00:43:24.560 I mean, the new map is almost the same, but a little bit, it goes less high in the north.

00:43:30.560 But so it wasn't a big change with the new map.

00:43:33.020 But so fair enough.

00:43:34.680 Well, that's probably good for you anyways.

00:43:36.640 But if you still live in the south area of Vancouver, Brian, I'll put your link to your BC Conservative profile page in the description below.

00:43:45.980 So if anyone in Vancouver wants to come up door knocking with Brian, wants to have more information on what he's doing, you should reach out to him or reach out to the party.

00:43:53.300 I'll put the BC Conservative social media accounts in the description as well.

00:43:57.280 But is there any sort of things that you think that are needed right now?

00:44:01.840 Like, do you guys need more volunteers?

00:44:03.500 And how is the actual situation on the ground going with materiel?

00:44:06.980 Yeah, so exactly.

00:44:07.620 So we can always use more volunteers, more donations, right?

00:44:10.900 I mean, our fundraising is doing fine, right, overall, and we have increased quite a lot compared to last year.

00:44:17.020 But we're still a little bit behind the BC United and especially the BC NDP, right?

00:44:21.440 I mean, we know left-wing parties or, like, the Democrats in the States, they're pretty good at fundraising nowadays because they have their high-income, you know, consultancy class voters.

00:44:32.460 So, I mean, anything happens, right?

00:44:34.200 Even, like, just if you live in BC, you have to live in BC, right, to donate.

00:44:37.860 But even if you just donate $100, you get $75 back in tax credits.

00:44:42.700 So it really only costs you $25.

00:44:44.700 And it goes a long way, right?

00:44:46.120 I mean, $100 is...

00:44:46.700 Does that go all the way up to $400, that it's the $75 back?

00:44:49.440 No, the $75 is only for the first $100.

00:44:53.580 After this, I think it falls to 50% or something like this for the next $400 or $500.

00:44:58.740 But so it's still interesting, but not as good of a deal as the first $100.

00:45:02.680 And I will say this as somebody who has donated hundreds of dollars to nomination campaigns where I have gotten $0 in tax credits back and donated, like, maxed out donations when I was literally 20 years old.

00:45:15.080 More people have to donate to the parties because people don't realize that, like, well, I don't want to have to give $50.

00:45:20.740 They should just go out and work harder for free.

00:45:22.460 It's like, guys, you're going to be paying more in taxes if the NDP gets back in.

00:45:27.460 So you will legitimately...

00:45:28.800 It's the best investment you can make if you live in BC to donate $100 to the party so you don't go bankrupt yourself.

00:45:36.360 So let's conclude on this.

00:45:38.140 So just to give an idea of how bad our public finances are in BC, the deficit is so large and the debt is rising so much.

00:45:46.940 Then Trevor Toome, right, from the University of Calgary, who is not an economist that is very right-wing.

00:45:52.300 He's usually associated with the liberals.

00:45:54.060 He was my research project supervisor for my master's degree.

00:45:57.760 Really?

00:45:58.140 I love the guy.

00:45:59.220 He's really, really great.

00:46:00.140 But, you know, he's not known to be, like, a super extreme conservative. 1.00

00:46:03.040 Yeah, he's very dumb. 1.00

00:46:03.920 Economist. 0.99

00:46:04.600 And even he, like, a month ago, when he wrote about BC, he said that, especially to go back to a balanced budget,

00:46:11.220 we need to raise the PST, our provincial sales tax, from 7% to 21%.

00:46:17.920 So, yeah, so when you say people, you know, should think about this because if we don't win and the NDP, you know, wins again this fall,

00:46:25.540 then, yeah, I'm not saying your PST would go up to 21% in November, but this is what would be required if we allowed Avidebi to play with your tax money longer.

00:46:36.000 Well, the PST that your kids will be paying will be 21%.

00:46:39.420 Yeah, exactly.

00:46:39.900 More people should think about it that way.

00:46:41.980 And right now, like, especially with the housing market in British Columbia, it is a federal issue because of immigration.

00:46:46.400 But still, the BC government has not been playing very nicely with homeowners or anyone who actually wants to own.

00:46:52.700 If you own a home, it's great for you in a certain sense.

00:46:55.940 But if you actually want to own a home, it's been awful.

00:46:58.960 But, yeah, thanks, Brian, for showing up onto the show and talking about the polls here today.

00:47:02.640 Hopefully people liked this interview format.

00:47:05.160 I'll definitely have on more BC Conservative candidates in the future and hopefully maybe even John Rushstead at some point.

00:47:11.580 But, yeah, no, until next time, guys, make sure you go check out the BC Conservatives' information and see if you can get involved in any way.

00:47:19.680 Donate because, again, also for the rest of Canada, go back to normal.

00:47:23.580 We can't have the BC NDP treating the province of BC like the meth lab for all terrible progressive policies that eventually go around the rest of the country.

00:47:32.340 Gontech is trying to import Vancouver policies to Calgary, and Toronto is trying to do the same thing with safe supply and decriminalization.

00:47:40.800 Anyways, see you guys all later, and I'll be back with another video soon.

The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - May 02, 2024

David Eby’s radicalism will win the BC Conservatives the next election (ft. Bryan Breguet)

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