The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - December 10, 2025


Disaster for the Liberals - Poilievre makes fool of Carney on pipeline vote!


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Wyatt Clunock talks about why the Liberals failed to vote in favour of their own MOU on the Tories' motion calling for the West Coast pipeline to be built, and the Prime Minister's response to the motion.

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here. Honestly, when I made my video yesterday talking about the
00:00:06.340 difficulties for Mark Carney's Liberal Party going into the Conservatives' motion vote today,
00:00:12.580 I assumed they were still going to vote for the Conservatives' motion on Carney's own
00:00:18.320 Memorandum of Understanding he signed with Alberta Premier Daniel Smith. But they didn't.
00:00:23.880 I thought it was like a 90 to 100% sure thing that at least the vast majority of Liberals were going
00:00:31.260 to vote for their own MOU. This is an electoral disaster for the Liberals. Do you think any
00:00:38.820 business Liberals are going to vote for the next election? Well, maybe some, but they're losing
00:00:44.160 heavy amounts of them over to the Conservatives. And the funny thing is that by signing the MOU in
00:00:50.300 the first place with Daniel Smith, even though it's going to result in approximately zero pipelines,
00:00:55.540 it already ticked off the green part of the Liberal Party. They had Stephen Gilbeau resigned from the
00:01:01.680 cabinet for the MOU being made in the first place. And then when they had to follow through in the
00:01:06.900 House of Commons when the Conservatives forced them to vote on their own MOU, they couldn't even do
00:01:11.060 that. So they have found a perfect way, triangulated a way to tick off everybody. And I am absolutely
00:01:18.720 here for it. Let's take this thing from the top. I want to start off with some videos from some of
00:01:24.340 the Liberal MPs setting up the narrative for why they were going to vote against their own MOU. And
00:01:30.060 then I want to get into the exchange between your Polyev and Prime Minister Mark Carney in the House
00:01:35.980 of Commons today. But before I get into it, I do just want to remind you guys that if you like the
00:01:40.800 show, make sure to leave a like on this video, subscribe to the channel if you are not yet a subscriber,
00:01:46.180 and then, of course, leave a comment on what you think about all this. I do like to scroll through
00:01:51.200 and see what people's opinions are on the news of the day. But let's start off here with Corey Hogan,
00:01:58.860 who is in fact the Liberal MP for the riding of Calgary Confederation, the only Liberal in the city of
00:02:07.080 Calgary. And he was the one who actually first came out to start setting the table for why the Liberals
00:02:13.500 cannot vote for this motion. Corey here says,
00:02:17.920 the Conservatives' pipeline motion is an unserious stunt that tries to score points at the expense of
00:02:23.520 our nation. A yes vote could undermine consultation, a no vote could undermine confidence. Canada loses
00:02:30.080 either way. Now, you'll remember from yesterday and the previous day before that, I read the motion
00:02:36.220 on both of those videos. It includes the idea that we should build a pipeline to the West Coast,
00:02:42.800 that we should suspend the tanker band so we can actually export our oil and gas products,
00:02:47.600 and that we should consult with First Nations. Now, I don't even think the consultations should be
00:02:52.480 necessary. Because frankly, when you consult with First Nations band councils, it's kind of insulting to
00:02:58.580 pretend you're even talking to First Nations people. First Nations are also just Canadians.
00:03:02.460 They're Canadians like everyone else, and talking to a left-wing activist-run band council does not
00:03:08.900 mean you're actually talking to the average First Nations person, who is in fact very supportive of
00:03:14.100 pipelines. But that's another issue for another day. Carney and all this has wanted to seem like
00:03:19.900 Mr. Pipeline by signing the MOU, but he's never actually wanted to follow through. That's why he baked
00:03:25.140 in all these vetoes for the province of British Columbia and for First Nations band councils.
00:03:30.580 But let's now get to Corey Hogan in this video, trying to effectively smear what Polyev is doing
00:03:37.360 here, but really all he's doing is revealing that Polyev is a smart politician and the liberals kind of
00:03:42.640 suck at this.
00:03:43.580 I want to talk about this motion from Pierre Polyev. Out of a big and comprehensive MOU between the
00:03:49.120 governments of Canada and Alberta, it picks one clause and one possible route, the one that requires
00:03:54.720 revising the tanker band, and enforces a vote on it. And we got to be clear, we all know exactly why the
00:04:00.280 conservatives move this motion. It is not to make a pipeline built. They are hoping to score cheap
00:04:04.920 political points by upsetting a delicate balance.
00:04:08.560 The political points here, Corey, are only cheap because the liberals put their MOU in writing and
00:04:15.980 the conservatives could just make it a motion. It's just because they're cheap points doesn't mean
00:04:21.720 that Polyev isn't absolutely right to score the points. They're literally scared of voting for 0.99
00:04:27.720 their own MOU. Oh, well, it's only it's cherry picking parts of the MOU that that Polyev wants
00:04:33.620 us to vote on. Is that wrong? It's he's just basically shrinking the MOU into saying, well,
00:04:41.160 do you want a pipeline built? Regardless of all the extra details? Do you want a West Coast pipeline
00:04:46.380 built? And will you be willing to get the tanker band out of the way so we can actually export?
00:04:50.380 That's all it's saying. And even throws out the olive branch of saying, you know, consultations,
00:04:54.680 that's fine. But will we build one? That's all that is being asked. And the fact that they are
00:04:59.960 trying to kick out of this just demonstrates that they were never serious about a pipeline.
00:05:04.400 Again, Carney wanted all the credit for signing it, but he wanted none of the negatives from the
00:05:09.300 political left for having actually built a pipeline. So he wants all the business liberals to
00:05:13.900 pat him on the back and not kick off the green liberals too much. The funny thing is the green 0.73
00:05:19.260 liberals are never satisfied with anything. That's why Stephen Gilbeau left cabinet. That's
00:05:23.100 why there are a lot of environmentalists mad at Carney for merely signing that piece of paper.
00:05:27.820 And the business liberals are ticked because they can't vote for the MOU, which is basically
00:05:31.360 saying, yeah, we were lying to you the entire time. These people are going to go back and either
00:05:35.380 on the left start voting NDP or green, or on the right, they're going to start voting for the
00:05:39.260 conservatives. And I'm saying like the left and right flanks of the liberal party.
00:05:42.760 They want us to vote on one side of the ledger. They want us to vote on one possible interpretation
00:05:47.320 and that the country will suffer is of no interest or concern to them.
00:05:53.040 Yeah, we're going to suffer by voting in favor of the idea we should build a pipeline.
00:05:57.080 Oh my goodness. They want us to vote on one side of the ledger or the other.
00:06:00.480 Well, that's kind of how votes work in parliament. Like I know that Corey hasn't been an MP for that
00:06:05.260 long, but I feel like you would have figured that out eventually that yes, it's either yay or nay.
00:06:09.100 If we vote yes, it can be interpreted we are betraying our duty to consult First Nations.
00:06:13.900 Except that's literally in the motion.
00:06:15.540 That we're not consulting with the province of BC. If we vote no, it can be interpreted to
00:06:20.340 businesses in the province of Alberta and we're not serious about a pipeline.
00:06:24.320 Because you're not. Yes. Like 100%. Yes. Yes. Yes. That is what a no vote means. And that is what
00:06:32.120 the business community is taking away from their no vote today. Oh my goodness. Polyeth has put us in this
00:06:37.940 silly political trap. It's only silly because you allowed it to trap you.
00:06:42.780 If the liberals were smart and if they weren't so ideologically left, Carney would have said
00:06:47.660 yesterday on Twitter, on X, absolutely we're voting for it. Of course we'll vote for our own MOU.
00:06:53.680 Yeah, I think you've cherry picked language from it, but yeah, we're generally in favor of what our MOU says.
00:06:58.480 That's what they would have said. But the thing is, they're going to nitpick it because it doesn't
00:07:02.840 include every single little stipulation and detail from the MOU. And even then they probably didn't want to
00:07:07.180 vote for it because even when the MOU came out, liberal MPs like Tlaib Nur Muhammad and Nate
00:07:12.920 Erskine-Smith and Jonathan Wilkinson and Stephen Gilbeau and all these other people, they started
00:07:17.520 coming out of the woodworks and saying, well, hey, remember the BC, the province of BC still has a
00:07:22.660 veto and First Nations still have a veto. They still have to sign on to it because they don't want to 0.98
00:07:26.900 build a pipeline and they're trying to ensure the left side of their base. Don't worry, this is not
00:07:30.360 going to turn into anything. And so they don't want to vote on anything that makes it seem like they
00:07:34.440 actually might act forced through a pipeline and not allow the BC government and First Nations have
00:07:39.760 a veto, which they shouldn't have in the first place. This is all we need is for Carney to sign
00:07:44.180 off on it. That is why this is so maddening. All we need is Carney. So either option could reduce the
00:07:50.440 chances of the pipeline actually being built. That's ridiculous. Now, Pierre Polyev knows this.
00:07:56.920 If he didn't, it would show a disqualifying level of incompetence for somebody who wishes to be
00:08:01.460 prime minister in such times. This is an unserious stunt that tries to score points
00:08:07.000 at the expense of our nation and our nation's economy. And it just underlines how not ready
00:08:12.480 for leadership he is. Yeah. Supporting a pipeline means you're not ready for leadership. And by the
00:08:17.040 way, in this video, has he, has he been literally holding a headset in his hand? Like it's a microphone,
00:08:22.300 like look down there, you can kind of see it. Like what, what is he doing here? He's literally
00:08:26.520 holding a microphone headset in his hand as his microphone for the video. If you're Corey Hogan's
00:08:33.280 office staff, I can show you how Best Buy works. You can go buy him a proper microphone. This isn't
00:08:38.660 difficult. They have quite large budgets. So this is strange that they couldn't figure this out.
00:08:44.900 Let's, I want to jump ahead to Corey Hogan or I want to jump ahead. I know I do. I think we might
00:08:52.520 want to talk about the liberal who voted against all, another liberal who voted against this. They
00:08:58.700 all voted against it, but another guy who tried to make a statement before the actual vote. This being
00:09:04.760 Eric St. Pierre. Let's jump over to this guy who made somehow a worse quality video than Corey Hogan.
00:09:15.160 Eric St. Pierre, who is the MP from Honor Mercier, Mercier, I can't speak French, sorry. He says,
00:09:21.900 tonight I will be voting against the conservative motion re the Canadian Alberta MOU. Here are the
00:09:27.820 reasons why, and we will hear him out here, guys. Hi, so later tonight in the House of Commons,
00:09:34.020 we will be voting on a conservative motion, which cherry picked language from an MOU with Alberta.
00:09:38.880 Here are the reasons why we'll be voting against this stunt of a motion. One, it fails to mention
00:09:45.160 British Columbia. That's convenient. It's literally all the motion is doing is asking if you're generally
00:09:51.240 in favor of a pipeline. It's supposed to be simple. It's not supposed to be complicated. Are you in
00:09:55.440 favor of a pipeline? It's not legislation. It's literally a motion. To mention, secondly,
00:09:59.720 that First Nations consent. Third, fails to... It literally does that. I don't even know how he 0.86
00:10:05.020 gets this wrong. Although he did say First Nations consent, and I'm like, well, of course, 0.96
00:10:09.580 First Nation ban councils shouldn't have consent. They shouldn't be able to just say, oh, no,
00:10:15.180 we're not allowing you to build something. You can't have people just stopping national energy
00:10:20.500 projects. That's ridiculous. No ban council should have the power to do that. And again,
00:10:24.980 the idea that these people speak on behalf of First Nations is frankly racist. Like, oh,
00:10:29.860 we have these left-wing activists who sit on the ban council, and they're telling us what First
00:10:33.740 Nations people think. No, they're saying what they think, and they probably have incentives to be
00:10:39.220 anti-pipeline because they are leftists who come from activist backgrounds and non-profits.
00:10:44.000 To mention the industrial carbon price of $130 a ton. That is essential. Fourth, doesn't mention
00:10:50.760 methane regulations. Fifth, it says one or more pipelines, whereas the MAU says private sector
00:10:56.300 constructed and finance pipelines. These are differences without an actual point, okay? It
00:11:04.440 doesn't mention the industrial carbon tax and the methane regulations. It says,
00:11:09.220 one or more pipelines rather than like, you know, a privately, you know, a private pipeline,
00:11:14.780 like privately funded. How is this? The whole point is the motion is just saying, are you in
00:11:20.040 favor of a pipeline going to the West Coast and getting rid of the tanker ban so we can export oil
00:11:23.840 and gas? That's literally all it does. They are trying to turn this into a complicated issue when it
00:11:29.840 is dirt simple. Big difference there. The MAU also talks about indigenous co-ownership, which got 0.99
00:11:35.760 conveniently taken out of this motion. Listen, this motion is ambiguous. It's a pure stunt. Clear no to
00:11:42.620 me. It's an attempt to divide. And let's face it, conservatives only know one thing, division. They
00:11:48.160 remain divided in their party. I know because their members have resigned. Their members have crossed the
00:11:52.860 floor. Okay. No, no. Matt Gennaro is going to resign in the spring. I don't know why people have said
00:12:00.160 it's because he had prior reasons for wanting to have, wanting to leave. His family's living in
00:12:04.740 different cities and now he's living away from them. So he wants to, you know, retire from politics.
00:12:09.680 That doesn't matter. Chris Dontremont crossed the floor, but it's like, who cares? Stephen Gilboa just
00:12:16.820 resigned from cabinet. Freeland's going to be resigning from the liberal party coming in 2026,
00:12:23.020 or maybe even the latter half of this year, because she's taking a job that requires her to be in
00:12:27.120 Oxford, England. Jonathan Wilkinson is rumored to be leaving to take a position as the UK high
00:12:32.940 commissioner for Canada. We have Nate Erskine-Smith likely to leave to go run for the Ontario liberal
00:12:39.060 leadership. What is, okay, they're bringing this up as if it's somehow unique to the conservatives having
00:12:45.880 leadership struggles. The liberals have it worse. And in fact, Chris Dontremont left for such petty
00:12:51.840 personal reasons. You really can't read into that as, oh, there must be other people wanting to
00:12:57.020 leave. Well, I don't think there was anyone else who was demanding to be deputy speaker and was
00:13:01.280 going to leave if they weren't given it, the role, or I think they would have already left by now.
00:13:05.520 The conservatives try to divide Canadians rather than keep us united. That's why I'm voting against
00:13:10.560 this conservative nonsense. Oh my goodness, guys. Literally voting on your own words is now
00:13:16.400 considered conservative nonsense. Right before we get to the exchange between Polyev and Mark Carney,
00:13:24.880 the, obviously the prime minister. I just want to jump over to, what was, do we have the vote total
00:13:31.500 here? Ah, there we go. So Marty up north, he has a good post on it right here. And he goes a little bit
00:13:41.160 into the fact that confederation doesn't work. And I know Marty is more of a separatist. I am not.
00:13:46.800 But he is right that the bait and switch on stuff like this is what is causing tension in Alberta.
00:13:51.900 Marty up north, Marty Bellinger here says, the motion to build a pipeline was defeated by a vote
00:13:57.340 of 196 against versus 139 for. Every party in the House of Commons except the conservatives are
00:14:03.920 against building an oil pipeline. The MOU that Smith signed with Ottawa is not even worth the
00:14:08.640 paper it's written on. Alberta can't have nice things. Time to admit that confederation has failed 0.88
00:14:13.180 experiment and go on our own. And again, I don't agree with Alberta going on its own because he even
00:14:19.100 admits in the post that if you got actually conservatives into office, there would be a
00:14:23.660 pipeline being built right now. And they're not that many seats away from being able to beat
00:14:27.300 the liberals. And in fact, the liberals are attempting to beat themselves right now by
00:14:31.300 ticking off all of their voters by both signing the MOU and not actually being able to stay committed
00:14:36.120 to the MOU. But like, I think I said something where it seemed like I was going to say something
00:14:44.840 else there. But regardless, though, like the liberals are responsible for a lot of the tensions
00:14:49.980 in the West. Any I don't think the separatist movement, the pro independence movement is actually
00:14:54.520 nearly as big as much of the media makes it out to be. I think if a vote happened today, it would get
00:14:59.940 defeated 75, stay 25 to separate. At the same time, if you want to push that from 25 to 35 to 45,
00:15:09.220 keep doing stuff like this, it would have been less bad if Carney got into office and no pipeline,
00:15:13.840 I'm not going to do a pipeline. It's worse by pretending you want to do one, because you're
00:15:18.400 now Mr. Pipeline, and then immediately just pull the rug out from under Alberta and say, 1.00
00:15:23.060 yeah, no, we're not really going to do it. Everyone and their dog gets a veto over whether
00:15:27.100 the pipeline gets built or not. They don't want to build one. They just want to pretend like they
00:15:32.400 want to build one. And we have Pierre Poly up here a little more than an hour ago, having tweeted out
00:15:38.220 about the vote today. He says, breaking liberals just voted against their own deal, blocking a
00:15:45.840 pipeline to the Pacific and keeping Canadian energy landlocked. Only conservatives will build pipelines
00:15:51.600 without a carbon tax, get our energy to tidewater and restore Canadian independence. Get shovels on
00:15:56.660 the ground and get Ottawa out of the way. Now, let's move on to Pierre Poly up duking it out with
00:16:04.140 Mark Carney in the House of Commons today. This is not I would to say it's a masterclass in political
00:16:12.900 rhetoric would actually be a lie because Poly up doesn't even have to be that good here. It's Carney
00:16:18.820 who's destroying himself right now. He is causing a political disaster for the liberals by having
00:16:24.500 done this thing with the MOU and then not being able even able to stand by it. I've said previously
00:16:29.720 that Carney is great at triangulating positions to tick off absolutely everybody. You could say about
00:16:35.920 Justin Trudeau, at least he made the left side of the liberal party happy. The right side was always
00:16:41.300 queasy about voting for him and many of them started bleeding off towards the conservatives.
00:16:45.100 The only reason Trudeau really ever stayed in office in 2021 and 2019 was bad advice from
00:16:50.540 conservative party advisors and poorly run campaigns. But Trudeau was consistent. Carney tries
00:16:57.680 to be everything to everybody. And as you know, from the common quotes, he's nothing to anybody as
00:17:03.600 well. You can't if you try and be everyone's best friend, you're going to be end up being a friend
00:17:08.060 to nobody. And he's a political ally to absolutely no side right now, even though we all know he's an
00:17:13.420 anti oil and gas environmentalist. He somehow ticked off Stephen Gilbeau, but not being
00:17:17.880 environmentalist enough.
00:17:18.860 The Honourable Leader of the Opposition, Mr. Speaker, Canada needs a pipeline to the Pacific to sell
00:17:25.160 $30 billion of our energy overseas, outside of the U.S. market, making us more independent,
00:17:30.940 self-reliant, our dollar, and therefore Canadians purchasing power stronger.
00:17:35.960 The Prime Minister always opposed the pipeline, which his party killed. But last week, he flip-flopped
00:17:40.880 and promised while he was in Alberta in a deal that he would build such a pipeline. So I took the very
00:17:46.260 wording right out of that deal and put it into a motion before the House of Commons. He experienced
00:17:51.840 a massive rebellion in his own caucus. But if he's going to vote against his own words, how can Canadians
00:17:59.240 ever believe his words?
00:18:01.720 The Right Honourable Prime Minister.
00:18:04.720 Obvious question. I don't think that was being unfair to Carney at all. That's the funny thing. Again,
00:18:10.300 the Liberals can keep saying, oh, they're scoring cheap political points. Okay, yeah, is this low-hanging fruit?
00:18:15.480 I guess, but that doesn't mean that he's wrong. And also, again, whoever came up with this in the
00:18:21.180 Conservative Party deserves a raise because, again, my instinct was that the Liberals couldn't have been
00:18:25.600 possibly stupid enough to vote against the MOU, and they were. So whoever had the intel to suggest
00:18:30.700 that this was actually going to make the Liberals look completely idiotic, give them a raise. This
00:18:36.020 was brilliantly done. But now let's get to the response of Prime Minister Carney.
00:18:40.620 Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, as the Canadian National Cricket team knows, you've got to play the whole T20.
00:18:56.180 It's not just a couple of overs. It's not just the pipeline. It's not just pathways. It is a price on
00:19:14.040 industrial price on carbon that goes to $130 effective. It is reductions in methane. It is net zero
00:19:20.100 2050. It is building Alberta strong, Canada strong, durable, sustainable, and the Honorable Leader of the
00:19:28.220 Opposition.
00:19:31.060 Like, what was that? That was meaningless from Carney. He's basically just listing off,
00:19:34.660 it's not just the pipeline. It's all the other things that was in our MOU. It's like,
00:19:38.180 okay, but do you want to build a pipeline? Again, that's the whole motion vote. Are you serious about
00:19:45.540 the pipeline element of all this?
00:19:47.700 I took the wording for the motion right out of his deal. And if he votes against the motion,
00:19:53.880 he's voting against the pipeline to the Pacific. He's voting against overriding the discriminatory
00:19:59.340 and anti-Canadian ban on shipping our energy abroad. He's voting against consultation with the First
00:20:05.100 Nations people and the British Columbia government. And he's even voting against his own beloved
00:20:09.820 carbon capture and storage, all of which I took word for word right out of his own deal.
00:20:16.260 So if the prime minister is only in favor of pipeline when he's in Alberta, but against when he's in BC
00:20:20.900 and Ottawa, how can Canadians even keep track of where he stands on anything?
00:20:26.500 Like, no notes on that for me. Like, that's just a perfectly fair question.
00:20:32.080 Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, I would like to welcome the fact that to my hearing, for the first time
00:20:41.260 ever in this House, the leader of the opposition has acknowledged the constitutional right of
00:20:48.560 indigenous people to full free. For the first time he's ever acknowledged, he's ever acknowledged the role
00:20:56.780 of the provinces. But he hasn't acknowledged yet the need for the industrial carbon price or the
00:21:03.660 reduction in methane too. The liberals keep getting up and like clapping at things that just aren't
00:21:08.140 really worth clapping for. Like, oh, it's the first time that that that Aliyev has now acknowledged that
00:21:13.860 First Nations should be consulted. I'm like, well, it's literally in the motion, which is I believe
00:21:18.200 something that Paulio brings up. Like, he Carney's attempt at getting a gotcha here is truly pathetic.
00:21:25.320 All this is just absolutely landing, like flopping on the ground. He's getting nothing out of his
00:21:31.060 lines here. And all of his MPs have to keep getting up and clapping really, really hard to pretend like
00:21:35.140 he's somehow scoring points himself.
00:21:37.180 The premier of Alberta acknowledged, signed, holdheartedly as part of a complete meal.
00:21:43.840 Mr. Speaker, not only do we acknowledge the obligation to consult with our First Peoples, we put that
00:21:52.380 right in the motion.
00:21:54.600 He put it right there so that he could vote for the words that he put in the agreement.
00:22:03.140 Well, let's be honest. He never planned to honour the agreement. He whispered quietly to the Keep
00:22:08.260 It in the Ground Liberal Caucus, don't worry, there will never be a pipeline. We'll delay it until the
00:22:13.980 election. And then God forbid, if we win, he says he would kill it all together. Why can't he say one
00:22:20.240 thing to all Canadians and champion the pipeline with us today?
00:22:24.980 Mr. Speaker, Mr. Speaker, the MOU between the government of Canada and the province of Alberta
00:22:37.740 Canada is about a pipeline. It is about carbon capture and storage.
00:22:43.200 Yeah, but he's asking you on the pipeline part, are you serious about the pipeline part? You can't
00:22:46.920 keep saying, well, the MOU is about a lot of things, but it was also about a pipeline. And the
00:22:51.420 motion is just saying, hey, the pipeline part of it, are you serious about it or not? It's not
00:22:54.800 legislation. It's just a motion asking, do you actually, I'm repeating myself ad nauseum at this
00:23:01.080 point. Do you actually believe in building a pipeline?
00:23:04.020 It is about inner ties with the clean electricity grid of British Columbia. It's about artificial
00:23:09.260 intelligence data centers. It is about an industrial carbon price that works. It is about
00:23:14.900 methane regulations. They get methane down 75% so that we can have the lowest emission, low
00:23:20.140 risk, lowest cost oil in the world and build this country. The leader of the opposition.
00:23:26.260 We put the inner ties proposal right in the motion, right out of his deal. We put the carbon capture
00:23:35.880 right in the motion, right out of his deal. We put the pipeline and the overriding of the oil
00:23:42.620 shipping ban right in the motion. It came right out of the deal that he signed. So now it's clear
00:23:49.340 that the only thing he really cares about is that it doesn't include an industrial carbon tax that
00:23:55.260 will drive jobs out, drive grocery prices up. Why is it that he wants a carbon tax without a pipeline?
00:24:03.580 And what we really need is a pipeline without a carbon.
00:24:05.580 Because the liberals are being so silly here by trying to pretend like, oh, it's just because
00:24:12.080 they didn't include some of the other stipulations of the deal. They didn't include the fact that we
00:24:16.680 also want an increase in the carbon tax for the industry, that we want this new methane regulation.
00:24:23.160 And it's like, but they're, they're being deliberately obtuse by pretending that they don't
00:24:27.340 know what a motion is effectively meant to do. Mr. Speaker, the grand reveal has been made.
00:24:39.560 Mr. Speaker, I'm not a lifelong member of this house. So I don't know all the rules, but I don't
00:24:44.460 think. Oh, now it's the jab. Oh, Paulie has been a politician for a while. It's like, okay,
00:24:48.220 who cares, Mark? I think there's a limit on the size of motions. And in fact, since the MOU is already
00:24:54.640 translated, I think it'd be very easy to take the entire MOU in both official languages and propose
00:25:01.620 them if the members opposite would support everything that the premier of Alberta has done.
00:25:08.140 You know what they could have done? He actually raises a very good point.
00:25:11.500 Why didn't, it doesn't go back to Paulie after that, it goes to Blanchet. Why at that point,
00:25:17.480 why don't the liberals put forward a motion that's the full version of the MOU? They just have to vote
00:25:21.820 for the full version of the MOU and prove to the conservatives, no, no, we won't vote for your
00:25:26.080 partial version. We want to vote for the full version. They could have done that. I know it's
00:25:30.200 opposition day. Are they going to do it tomorrow? Vote for the full version? Well, previous interviews
00:25:35.000 prove that their own MPs don't even like the full version. They just want Carney to sign it on his own
00:25:40.920 and then just have it rot and not go anywhere. That's what's going on here. It's such a stupid game
00:25:45.840 they're playing. Anyways, well, the liberals have dug themselves into a political hole. They're kind
00:25:52.660 of, you know, they're going to damage themselves no matter what they do here. They voted against it,
00:25:57.460 so they're really ticking off the business liberals. But if they voted in favor of it,
00:26:01.360 they may have actually ticked off the green, orange, left side of the party, the former green
00:26:07.120 and NDP voters who voted for the liberals in this last election campaign. This MOU has already even
00:26:13.160 ticked them off. And then if they voted in favor of the motion today, it would have ticked those
00:26:16.720 people off even more, driving more votes away from the left side of the liberal party. But again,
00:26:23.460 Carney has found a perfect way of ticking off everybody. He already ticked off the green left
00:26:27.620 by getting the motion or assigning the MOU, the memorandum of understanding in the first place.
00:26:33.640 And now by voting down the MOU, this part of it saying, are we serious about the pipeline element?
00:26:39.280 He's ticking off all the business conservatives who are probably going to migrate back
00:26:43.020 over to the conservative party in the next election. And it looks like we are going to be
00:26:47.660 having an election sometime in 2026. The rhetorical line that the conservatives have to run on is quite
00:26:53.460 strong right now. The liberals do not have a good leg to stand on at the moment. But anyways, with that
00:26:58.800 all being said, thank you guys for watching today. Like, share, and subscribe. And I will see you all next time.