The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - Doug Ford abandoned Conservative voters in Ontario (ft. Jim Karahalios

00:00:00.000 Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the Wyatt Claypool Show.

00:00:04.420 There are a lot of Conservatives out there who are feeling queasy about the Ontario provincial election.

00:00:10.540 And quite frankly, it's because there's no real mainstream Conservative option on the ballot, at least to most people's knowledge.

00:00:17.940 When I look at the polls in Ontario right now, I am seeing a heavy amount of overlap between the regions and demographics

00:00:25.520 that usually vote for Justin Trudeau's Liberal Party, voting for Doug Ford's PCs.

00:00:31.220 Because a lot of federal Conservatives just sit out provincial elections now

00:00:35.140 because they're effectively voting for Justin Trudeau's best political ally in Doug Ford.

00:00:41.060 And then you have the Liberals and the NDP who are extremely disorganized,

00:00:46.360 and you can't really say that much different about them compared to the Ford PCs.

00:00:50.860 But that's why I really like to talk about and bring up the New Blue Party every time I talk about Ontario politics.

00:00:58.620 And I am very happy to have on today somebody I find is one of my favorite people in Canadian politics,

00:01:05.240 someone who's actually inspired me to do a lot in the political scene,

00:01:09.040 and that is New Blue Party leader Jim Karahelios.

00:01:12.500 I wanted to have him on today to discuss what's going on in Ontario,

00:01:16.440 what options do people kind of have in this election,

00:01:19.900 and why the landscape in Ontario is so different from every other province.

00:01:24.900 Most provinces, we have Conservative parties on the ballot.

00:01:27.400 What's going on, Jim?

00:01:29.480 How are you, Wyatt? Good to talk to you again.

00:01:31.480 Thanks for having me on, making the time.

00:01:33.540 Yeah, no, it's been a couple of years, but I really wanted this to happen again.

00:01:36.640 So it's great that we, I guess I can thank Doug Ford for a snap election,

00:01:40.720 or else I'd be waiting another year.

00:01:42.160 I can't believe it's been only two years because it went by in a flash.

00:01:47.960 I mean, we had a ton of work.

00:01:50.420 2022 was our first election.

00:01:52.560 I was sick when we started the party, so we got a late start,

00:01:55.800 but we had about a year to get into that election,

00:01:57.840 and we found 124 candidates stepped forward.

00:02:01.560 We got them all in the ballot.

00:02:03.100 On election day, we had 123.

00:02:05.260 One had to back out because their employer pressured them.

00:02:08.140 And at the end of the day, we finished with the fifth number highest votes in Ontario.

00:02:14.780 Our showing was the most votes and the greatest vote share

00:02:17.520 that any political party in an Ontario provincial party has had since 1934,

00:02:22.900 which was the precursor to the NDP.

00:02:25.780 And then, but the follow-up from that election,

00:02:27.600 we had all this mountain of paperwork.

00:02:30.020 We had 124 writing associations, 124 candidates.

00:02:33.560 So we had to do audits and financial returns for all those.

00:02:37.540 So that's 248.

00:02:39.440 And then there were three or four audits of the new blue party

00:02:42.240 for the campaign period, for the year in general.

00:02:46.020 That was two years in a row.

00:02:47.780 We were just swallowed up in paperwork,

00:02:50.880 and we worked really hard, a small team,

00:02:52.960 to make sure that we didn't lose any writings

00:02:54.600 and that none of our candidates did not file or did not fail to file.

00:02:59.480 So that ensured that they could still run again in the next election.

00:03:05.340 And that takes a lot of work because most of our candidates had never run before.

00:03:09.780 And then we organized a grassroots policy conference

00:03:12.480 that led to the first policy declaration for the new blue party

00:03:16.380 with ideas put forward by members

00:03:18.460 and voted on at an in-person conference.

00:03:21.340 And then next thing you know, Doug Ford's saying,

00:03:24.000 let's have an early election.

00:03:25.160 So the two years went by in a flash,

00:03:28.040 and here we are with an unnecessary election

00:03:31.080 in the middle of a couple of snowstorms in Ontario.

00:03:33.760 Yeah, and this isn't like a Jean Chrétien early election

00:03:37.320 where it's like, you know, six months before it's supposed to happen,

00:03:40.120 throw people off balance.

00:03:41.420 You know, that's politics.

00:03:42.680 It's maybe a smart maneuver to do, a little unethical.

00:03:45.880 This is a year and a half early.

00:03:48.040 And the whole purpose of the election, I think,

00:03:51.020 has actually caused a lot of people just to disconnect

00:03:53.840 because it was slated as being an election to protect Ontario

00:03:58.160 from those nasty Americans.

00:04:00.520 And now the trade war is canceled,

00:04:02.760 and I don't even know what this whole thing is about.

00:04:06.020 I attempted, and I did get through the whole thing,

00:04:08.760 but it took me a few tries to watch the Northern Ontario debate

00:04:12.140 between the four party leaders.

00:04:13.960 And I was just left with feeling like nothing was said.

00:04:18.600 And especially Doug Ford, he'll every once in a while

00:04:21.660 use a conservative turn of phrase,

00:04:23.940 but I never get the idea that the man is conservative.

00:04:27.920 It's always that he brags about how much he ended up spending

00:04:31.440 on a specific industry,

00:04:33.360 how much money he transferred to a specific area.

00:04:36.320 But I've never heard any tax cuts mentioned,

00:04:39.760 but he'll say, well, I've never raised a tax.

00:04:41.860 I'm not sure of what you think about what was said in that debate,

00:04:45.880 but maybe you could also mention

00:04:47.760 how the new blue party is standing in this election,

00:04:50.700 how many candidates you have,

00:04:52.060 and how that process was as well.

00:04:54.760 Yeah, I mean, Doug Ford's calling an early election

00:04:56.820 because he's hoping to get an extension on his mandate

00:05:00.720 before Ontarians wake up and realize,

00:05:03.260 you know, Justin Trudeau has now resigned,

00:05:05.620 things are not looking better in Ontario,

00:05:08.000 and pretty soon Ontario voters are going to realize

00:05:10.020 it's Doug Ford that was responsible

00:05:11.640 for most of the pain they've been enduring

00:05:13.760 for the last six years,

00:05:14.860 the lack of economic production coming out of Ontario,

00:05:18.880 the lagging economy even post and pre-COVID,

00:05:23.200 balloon spending, taxes.

00:05:25.560 It's not true that Doug Ford has not raised taxes.

00:05:27.960 He brought in an industrial carbon tax

00:05:29.840 before the Supreme Court ruled,

00:05:32.600 and we have two carbon taxes in Ontario now.

00:05:34.820 We have the consumer one from Justin Trudeau,

00:05:36.900 and we have Doug Ford's industrial carbon tax,

00:05:39.680 and he created an entire carbon registry

00:05:44.800 for industry to register their emissions very costly.

00:05:48.460 That's another type of red tape

00:05:50.240 that Doug Ford doesn't like to talk about.

00:05:52.520 And of course, the Greens, the NDP, the Liberals

00:05:54.440 are not going to talk about that stuff

00:05:55.760 because they like it.

00:05:56.680 So there's a bunch of issues

00:05:59.220 that the media is not talking about

00:06:00.700 because they don't want to cover the new blue

00:06:02.880 and because the other three mainstream parties

00:06:06.680 don't hold Doug Ford to account on it

00:06:08.940 because they're largely in agreement with it.

00:06:11.280 And so he called this early election.

00:06:13.980 Thankfully, my wife, Belinda,

00:06:15.360 the former MPP of Cambridge,

00:06:17.900 she's very diligent.

00:06:19.660 She was all over the news sources

00:06:21.120 and some of the insider Queen's Park reporting,

00:06:24.280 and she made us well aware

00:06:26.340 that we're going to go into an early election.

00:06:28.080 I didn't really believe it, Wyatt.

00:06:29.300 I thought they were just bluffing

00:06:30.660 to get the Liberals to spend money.

00:06:33.540 But we started taking in candidate applications.

00:06:36.160 But unfortunately, a lot of people were thinking like me.

00:06:38.240 They were thinking, you know,

00:06:39.700 Doug Ford's not really going to do an election

00:06:41.340 a year and a half early in the middle of winter,

00:06:43.360 maybe March, maybe April.

00:06:45.140 And we come out of New Year's,

00:06:46.540 the next thing you know, he's calling an election.

00:06:49.800 And there was a bit of a scramble there, Wyatt.

00:06:52.140 Like we didn't think we were going to get

00:06:53.640 more than 40 or 50 candidates,

00:06:55.860 but a lot of people who were interested in running,

00:06:58.040 they just wanted to make sure

00:06:59.780 there was an actual election going on.

00:07:01.680 And they finally started collecting the signatures.

00:07:05.780 And at the end of the day,

00:07:07.460 it was a mad scramble those last seven days.

00:07:09.600 We had tough fights with returning officers on the ground

00:07:12.220 that were working for Elections Ontario,

00:07:14.600 but you'd think they were working

00:07:15.980 for the establishment parties,

00:07:17.460 the way they were fighting our candidates

00:07:18.760 to keep them off the ballot.

00:07:20.280 But all 108 people that stepped forward

00:07:23.040 and tried to get signatures

00:07:24.820 and tried to file paperwork all got on the ballot.

00:07:27.300 So in all the ridings we targeted,

00:07:29.720 108, we got candidates on the ballot.

00:07:34.100 There's going to be 108 new blue candidates.

00:07:36.260 There's only 16 ridings where

00:07:38.380 we did not have someone step forward.

00:07:41.460 And the other good news is of the 108,

00:07:43.460 that makes up 96% of our vote from two years ago.

00:07:47.360 So we're covering the vast majority,

00:07:51.120 almost 100% of our voters from the last election.

00:07:55.120 So then that was part strategy.

00:07:56.620 We were really targeting our strongest ridings this time.

00:07:59.620 And 108 candidates, a much better group

00:08:02.200 than we had the first time.

00:08:03.340 We have some candidates that are running a second time.

00:08:06.240 And a lot of new ones.

00:08:08.360 You know, the first time around,

00:08:09.220 we had a lot of candidates,

00:08:10.280 White, that were looking at,

00:08:11.900 you know, what you would call a COVID election.

00:08:14.720 And they were thinking, you know,

00:08:16.240 I can jump on this new party,

00:08:18.280 kind of ride the wave and get elected.

00:08:19.820 And now, and some of those candidates,

00:08:23.020 you know, they didn't win.

00:08:23.880 So then they just left.

00:08:24.760 They didn't do financial returns.

00:08:26.220 They just abandoned the party.

00:08:27.440 And it's, you know, it's going to be expected.

00:08:29.440 You can't know everyone personally

00:08:31.500 in a year and a half when you start a party.

00:08:34.740 Now, this time around,

00:08:35.540 I'm seeing from the 108 candidates

00:08:37.560 are people who are committed,

00:08:39.380 not just, you know, to get elected to Queen's Park,

00:08:41.900 but they're committed to moving the issues forward,

00:08:44.860 holding the other parties accountable.

00:08:46.540 And they know every vote we get

00:08:48.680 is a vote to strengthen the new blue party,

00:08:51.240 to create a proper principled,

00:08:54.920 true blue alternative that holds the PCs

00:08:58.540 and the liberals feet to the fire.

00:09:00.540 And they're looking at it long-term

00:09:02.180 in terms of a long-term vision to grow a party.

00:09:04.640 And they know it's not going to be,

00:09:06.020 you know, a quick couple of years to a majority.

00:09:08.700 This is going to take a grind

00:09:10.480 and a long, long process.

00:09:12.320 And we got to keep taking steps

00:09:14.120 and eventually the dam will break.

00:09:16.380 And there'll be a tipping point.

00:09:18.420 I always liked the quote that you have from Rob Ford.

00:09:22.240 I remember you mentioned it in an interview

00:09:24.820 where you posted a clip of it.

00:09:26.100 I think the interview only has like a few hundred views.

00:09:28.500 I must be like half those views

00:09:30.020 because I just really liked the quote

00:09:31.500 that you have from Rob Ford

00:09:33.080 in the last couple of years of his life

00:09:34.700 when you were his executive assistant

00:09:37.420 in council in Toronto, right?

00:09:39.420 No, no.

00:09:40.040 We were just, we just became friends.

00:09:41.540 I was actually helping a candidate

00:09:43.500 that was running for leader of the PC's,

00:09:45.940 Monty McNaughton.

00:09:47.320 And I was doing all of Monty's policy.

00:09:49.660 He was campaigning against wind turbines,

00:09:51.920 campaigning against the sex ed curriculum,

00:09:53.640 if that sounds familiar.

00:09:55.040 And we went to a meeting with Rob Ford

00:09:58.140 and I asked Rob to endorse Monty and he did.

00:10:00.840 And then me and Rob became very good friends.

00:10:03.300 And I kind of, you know,

00:10:05.980 he was asking me for how we're going to run

00:10:09.220 the campaign with Monty

00:10:10.320 and when he should do interviews

00:10:12.360 and speak out and stuff.

00:10:13.360 So that's kind of the relationship.

00:10:14.480 I never worked for Rob,

00:10:15.540 but we became very good friends

00:10:16.720 until he passed away.

00:10:17.640 Yeah.

00:10:18.200 Yeah.

00:10:18.460 I think it's because I heard you

00:10:19.580 were just like working with him a lot.

00:10:21.420 But the quote I really liked

00:10:22.700 is that the way that you end up

00:10:24.480 winning an election

00:10:25.420 or you do politics

00:10:26.360 is every single day

00:10:27.440 you got to wake up

00:10:28.180 and you got to pound the ball downfield.

00:10:30.000 That it's not one of those things

00:10:31.540 where you put your name on a ballot

00:10:32.740 and you just run to victory

00:10:34.220 in a short little sprint.

00:10:35.660 And that's all

00:10:36.260 because you pointed out

00:10:37.320 that Rob Ford,

00:10:38.420 the first time you ever ran for council

00:10:39.820 came like third or fourth place.

00:10:41.780 And it wasn't a particularly

00:10:42.800 great third or fourth showing.

00:10:44.800 It's like 10% or 12%,

00:10:46.420 which is nothing to sneeze at.

00:10:47.640 But it wasn't like

00:10:48.580 he was a contender

00:10:49.700 in who was going to win.

00:10:51.860 And it's just that

00:10:52.580 you have to go back

00:10:53.580 and you got to keep talking to people,

00:10:55.360 keep shaking hands,

00:10:56.360 keep giving your message out.

00:10:57.760 And eventually you will break through.

00:10:59.620 And when you mentioned

00:11:00.640 having a better slate of candidates

00:11:02.180 in the second election

00:11:04.020 rather than the first,

00:11:05.100 I know that you're also not meaning

00:11:06.420 that as an insult

00:11:07.260 to people in the first slate.

00:11:09.660 A lot of them are running for

00:11:10.840 again this time.

00:11:12.700 Some of the really good people

00:11:13.900 from the first time

00:11:15.200 just didn't have time

00:11:16.060 the second time.

00:11:16.780 But I did interact

00:11:18.020 with some people

00:11:18.700 who it felt like

00:11:19.740 they wanted to be on the ballot

00:11:20.820 because they thought

00:11:21.360 they were going to easily win

00:11:22.980 and they also didn't want

00:11:23.860 to do any work.

00:11:24.620 But that's sort of

00:11:25.760 one of those things

00:11:26.860 that happens

00:11:27.340 in a lot of small parties.

00:11:28.580 But maybe to get

00:11:29.640 to the whole crux

00:11:31.280 of the election,

00:11:32.260 especially how New Blue

00:11:33.300 fits in,

00:11:34.480 why shouldn't people

00:11:35.920 give Doug Ford

00:11:37.260 a third chance?

00:11:38.840 Because I always hear

00:11:40.180 that you can't vote New Blue

00:11:41.360 because you're going to let

00:11:42.560 the Liberals or the NDP

00:11:43.760 win if you do that,

00:11:45.100 even if you,

00:11:45.800 although if you look

00:11:46.360 at the polling,

00:11:47.320 neither of those parties

00:11:48.040 are positioned to win

00:11:48.940 a government.

00:11:50.000 It's either a Ford majority

00:11:51.520 or Ford minority

00:11:52.300 at this point.

00:11:52.960 But why shouldn't we

00:11:54.100 return Ford to a majority?

00:11:55.800 Yeah, that statement

00:11:59.680 is one of the propaganda tools

00:12:02.080 that the operatives

00:12:03.020 of the PC party

00:12:03.960 put out there,

00:12:04.700 which is, you know,

00:12:05.940 as bad as Doug Ford

00:12:07.040 and the PCs are,

00:12:07.980 the Liberals will be worse.

00:12:09.540 And, you know,

00:12:10.440 it's repeated

00:12:10.940 by some mainstream,

00:12:12.280 you know,

00:12:13.380 social media influencers

00:12:14.860 that state that as well.

00:12:17.560 Why it's really unfortunate

00:12:18.700 the breadth

00:12:20.300 and the depth

00:12:20.880 of people who repeat

00:12:21.880 that type of propaganda.

00:12:23.260 But, I mean,

00:12:26.560 I don't understand

00:12:27.760 what that statement

00:12:29.340 kind of is comparing

00:12:30.440 because you can always

00:12:31.360 kind of dream up a scenario

00:12:32.580 where government

00:12:34.040 is worse than the current

00:12:35.200 one you have.

00:12:36.240 But if you're looking

00:12:36.980 at track records,

00:12:38.620 the Liberals and the PCs,

00:12:40.180 it's not liberal light.

00:12:41.540 It's an exact mirror image,

00:12:43.620 the PCs and the Liberals.

00:12:45.180 I mean,

00:12:46.040 the Fraser Institute

00:12:47.140 put out a study

00:12:48.100 a few weeks ago

00:12:49.540 and I was shocked

00:12:50.600 that the Fraser Institute

00:12:51.600 was so aggressive,

00:12:52.820 but they clearly stated

00:12:54.620 Doug Ford and the PCs

00:12:55.800 have outspent Kathleen Wynne.

00:12:58.980 Belinda kind of blew the whistle

00:13:00.580 on another on the social side,

00:13:02.260 which is the Ford government

00:13:03.380 is still investing in

00:13:04.780 and promoting DEI initiatives

00:13:06.700 in the education system

00:13:08.640 and in other government sectors.

00:13:11.120 So whether it's education,

00:13:12.600 healthcare,

00:13:13.120 social policy,

00:13:14.040 fiscal policy,

00:13:15.000 tax policy,

00:13:16.200 they're the exact same extension

00:13:18.620 of the McGuinty-Wynne Liberals

00:13:20.380 and I don't think you get

00:13:21.980 any more left wing

00:13:23.080 than a Kathleen Wynne

00:13:24.360 kind of figure.

00:13:25.800 What Doug Ford does,

00:13:26.880 and you mentioned Rob,

00:13:28.400 he's not Rob Ford.

00:13:29.880 He had the benefit

00:13:30.860 of being Rob Ford's brother

00:13:32.260 and he's,

00:13:33.600 you know,

00:13:33.920 as completely different

00:13:37.260 he is from Rob,

00:13:38.500 he absorbs some of the rhetoric.

00:13:40.220 So he's,

00:13:40.760 you know,

00:13:41.000 Doug's kind of clever.

00:13:41.900 He knows how to throw out

00:13:43.800 a statement,

00:13:44.840 a good rhetorical piece

00:13:46.520 for word comeback to media

00:13:50.720 that makes it sound

00:13:52.380 like he's conservative.

00:13:53.400 But when you look at his record

00:13:54.500 behind the scenes,

00:13:56.060 he's nothing like Rob.

00:13:58.620 He's polar opposite.

00:14:00.340 He likes to be a liberal.

00:14:01.720 He wants to be a liberal.

00:14:03.120 That's why he endorsed

00:14:03.960 Christine Elliott

00:14:04.800 in that leadership

00:14:06.220 that Rob Ford endorsed

00:14:07.500 Monty McNaughton.

00:14:08.580 and his record is

00:14:11.540 the same,

00:14:13.400 if not worse

00:14:14.120 than the McGuinty

00:14:15.840 Wynne Liberals.

00:14:16.560 So what does that mean?

00:14:18.540 It's not about

00:14:19.320 electing a party

00:14:21.900 to go in there

00:14:22.760 and fix the mess.

00:14:24.600 That's the eventual goal.

00:14:26.060 But in the meantime,

00:14:27.440 we need voters

00:14:28.200 to vote for the new blue

00:14:29.660 and we need to get out

00:14:30.480 in front of voters

00:14:31.280 to build a stronger party

00:14:33.500 to continue to hold

00:14:34.940 them to account.

00:14:35.840 So you'll see

00:14:36.400 different policies

00:14:37.800 that we've championed

00:14:39.700 and primarily,

00:14:41.600 you know,

00:14:41.880 before Belinda was elected,

00:14:43.100 there was the

00:14:43.520 Axe the Carbon Tax campaign

00:14:44.880 and then Belinda

00:14:46.160 as an MPP,

00:14:47.060 the first new blue MPP,

00:14:48.300 the type of policy

00:14:49.600 she was advocating for.

00:14:51.940 And

00:14:52.040 we were really

00:14:54.640 ahead of the curve

00:14:55.420 in a lot of different

00:14:57.000 aspects.

00:14:58.460 You're looking at

00:14:59.440 the Axe the Carbon Tax campaign.

00:15:00.860 Obviously,

00:15:01.180 that's pretty popular now

00:15:02.640 in conservative circles.

00:15:04.520 And then you're also

00:15:05.140 looking at stuff

00:15:05.840 like Belinda

00:15:06.460 advocating against

00:15:07.640 the drug injection site.

00:15:09.260 Belinda being the only MPP

00:15:10.760 to vote against

00:15:11.400 critical race theory bill

00:15:12.540 that the NDP put forward

00:15:13.820 that the PCs

00:15:14.480 all voted in favor of.

00:15:16.420 We started the Stop Wolf

00:15:17.820 campaign in Ontario

00:15:19.020 that you can

00:15:20.360 is still online.

00:15:22.540 There's a petition

00:15:23.080 from our website.

00:15:24.840 And all of these things,

00:15:26.100 years later,

00:15:26.640 you see

00:15:27.400 governments backtracking.

00:15:29.220 So you see

00:15:29.660 the Ford government

00:15:30.480 eventually,

00:15:31.220 five or six years later,

00:15:32.840 backtracking

00:15:33.500 from drug injection sites.

00:15:34.800 So they've clawed

00:15:36.320 them back a bit.

00:15:37.080 They're still funding

00:15:38.000 a lot of them

00:15:38.800 across Ontario.

00:15:39.680 And when Belinda

00:15:40.440 was in there,

00:15:41.460 they looked at her

00:15:42.080 like she had four eyeballs.

00:15:44.000 Another example

00:15:44.920 why it is Belinda

00:15:45.840 held them to account

00:15:46.940 at Queen's Park

00:15:47.840 over a rising cost

00:15:49.700 of electricity

00:15:50.300 and wind turbines.

00:15:51.260 Another issue

00:15:52.000 was she stood up

00:15:53.540 at Queen's Park,

00:15:54.180 the only MPP

00:15:54.920 to say,

00:15:55.320 when are you going

00:15:55.700 to get tough

00:15:56.160 on the border

00:15:56.760 and the fentanyl

00:15:58.220 that's pouring in

00:15:59.040 from China

00:15:59.620 that's laced

00:16:03.320 with other substances

00:16:05.460 making it lethal.

00:16:07.160 And they kind of

00:16:07.620 laughed at her

00:16:08.080 and said,

00:16:08.460 well,

00:16:08.540 we're funding

00:16:08.980 drug injection sites.

00:16:09.920 Now you see

00:16:10.680 Doug Ford

00:16:11.720 and the federal

00:16:12.260 liberal government

00:16:12.900 forced to do

00:16:13.760 something about the border.

00:16:15.380 And that's something

00:16:15.880 that Belinda championed.

00:16:17.080 So yeah,

00:16:17.880 Doug wants

00:16:18.480 another election here

00:16:19.600 to get a quote unquote

00:16:21.160 mandate to spend

00:16:22.240 more money

00:16:22.740 than he did in COVID

00:16:23.540 or the same amount of money.

00:16:24.980 He didn't have

00:16:25.420 that mandate for COVID.

00:16:27.120 But if he had listened

00:16:29.240 and if he was forward thinking,

00:16:31.960 we probably wouldn't be

00:16:33.040 in the mess we're in now

00:16:34.000 and we'd be ahead

00:16:34.660 of the game

00:16:35.080 with the Americans

00:16:35.760 and have a better

00:16:36.380 relationship with them

00:16:37.140 and we'd have

00:16:37.560 better border security.

00:16:39.120 Well,

00:16:39.160 it seemed like

00:16:39.560 with the trade war,

00:16:40.420 he almost invited it

00:16:41.580 because he wanted

00:16:42.480 an excuse to engage

00:16:44.000 in COVID style

00:16:45.060 relief spending again,

00:16:46.620 which is really just

00:16:47.340 picking winners

00:16:47.980 and losers

00:16:48.480 in the economy

00:16:49.160 because that was

00:16:49.980 the first thing

00:16:50.600 he rolled out

00:16:51.160 upon his announcement.

00:16:52.160 We need COVID

00:16:52.800 style relief spending.

00:16:54.260 But a great example

00:16:55.520 of the sort of fake

00:16:56.960 red meat,

00:16:58.400 the impossible red meat

00:16:59.780 that Doug Ford

00:17:01.200 ends up putting out

00:17:02.040 during election campaigns,

00:17:03.540 but it's not backed up

00:17:05.080 by his actual record

00:17:06.040 is him saying,

00:17:07.000 well,

00:17:07.140 we should bring back

00:17:08.160 the death penalty

00:17:09.100 because he knows

00:17:10.180 that's going to create

00:17:10.820 a splash in the media

00:17:11.740 and everyone's going

00:17:12.260 to be like,

00:17:12.820 oh,

00:17:13.020 I can't believe

00:17:13.680 Doug Ford would say that

00:17:14.760 and then conservatives

00:17:15.500 around the province

00:17:16.200 think,

00:17:16.660 oh,

00:17:16.820 was he actually

00:17:17.660 on our side?

00:17:18.880 No,

00:17:19.480 like look at his

00:17:20.280 actual record

00:17:21.540 on crime.

00:17:22.680 I actually just,

00:17:23.420 because I do a lot

00:17:24.180 of crime research,

00:17:25.200 I just happen

00:17:25.720 to have the crime stats

00:17:26.780 on my computer here

00:17:28.760 for violent crime.

00:17:30.000 In 2018,

00:17:30.760 when he took office,

00:17:31.880 the rate per 100,000 people

00:17:33.320 of violent crime,

00:17:34.700 and I always like

00:17:35.320 to use violent crime

00:17:36.100 because sometimes

00:17:36.980 other types of crime

00:17:38.060 change over time

00:17:39.100 and the rate goes down

00:17:40.300 not because things

00:17:41.020 are safer,

00:17:41.620 it's just because,

00:17:42.060 you know,

00:17:42.660 break and enters

00:17:43.260 aren't as common

00:17:44.340 when there's ring

00:17:45.000 doorbells everywhere.

00:17:46.260 But violent crime

00:17:47.280 incidents in 2018

00:17:48.460 were 904

00:17:49.740 per 100,000 people.

00:17:51.540 They are in the year 2023

00:17:53.140 because we don't have

00:17:54.020 the 24 numbers out.

00:17:55.460 It's 1,055

00:17:57.640 per 100,000 people.

00:17:59.340 The rate of violent crime

00:18:00.580 has gone up a lot

00:18:01.400 and even rate

00:18:02.260 isn't exactly,

00:18:03.540 I think,

00:18:03.760 the best measure

00:18:04.460 because crime happens

00:18:06.500 in fixed geographic areas.

00:18:08.480 It's not like

00:18:09.040 it's the,

00:18:09.760 the city has expanded

00:18:11.060 by 10%

00:18:12.020 if the population expands.

00:18:13.880 There is still a stabbing

00:18:15.020 on that street corner.

00:18:16.500 And so he hasn't used

00:18:17.920 the OPP

00:18:18.460 to crack down

00:18:19.560 on violent crime

00:18:20.380 or to pass

00:18:21.340 any provincial laws

00:18:22.260 to hold criminals longer.

00:18:24.020 And he lets

00:18:24.760 synagogues

00:18:25.640 get shot up

00:18:26.700 and they're like

00:18:27.320 people in Jewish

00:18:28.060 neighborhoods get harassed

00:18:29.260 and Hindu temples

00:18:30.020 get harassed

00:18:30.880 by Kalistanis.

00:18:32.200 You have all this

00:18:33.000 nonsense going on

00:18:34.000 and he always just

00:18:34.900 sits back and says,

00:18:35.780 why won't Justin Trudeau

00:18:36.940 do something?

00:18:38.520 But he,

00:18:39.120 as a man who can't

00:18:39.960 even enforce

00:18:40.780 the death penalty,

00:18:41.540 is going to start

00:18:41.980 talking about

00:18:42.300 the death penalty.

00:18:43.600 He's the,

00:18:43.960 yeah,

00:18:44.080 he's the most powerful

00:18:45.100 man in Ontario.

00:18:45.800 That's what you get

00:18:46.500 when you're the

00:18:46.960 premier of Ontario.

00:18:47.880 And he's failed

00:18:50.160 on every issue.

00:18:51.600 And he's failed

00:18:52.780 on issues

00:18:53.300 that conservatives

00:18:54.040 are supposed

00:18:55.260 to succeed at.

00:18:56.140 They're supposed

00:18:56.520 to succeed at crime.

00:18:57.700 They're supposed

00:18:58.040 to succeed at policies

00:18:59.300 to bring tax relief

00:19:01.460 to measure

00:19:02.760 and reduce

00:19:04.200 the deficit

00:19:05.240 and the debt burden.

00:19:07.240 Succeeding on crime,

00:19:08.260 meaning the crime rate

00:19:09.180 and the rate

00:19:10.080 of violent crime

00:19:10.660 is supposed to come down

00:19:11.420 under conservative governments

00:19:12.720 through a variety

00:19:13.600 of measures.

00:19:14.960 And yes,

00:19:15.740 criminal code

00:19:16.600 is federal,

00:19:17.140 but there's a lot

00:19:18.460 of what Doug Ford

00:19:19.300 can do pressuring

00:19:20.380 the Trudeau government

00:19:21.340 to do something

00:19:23.100 about those things.

00:19:24.040 And he doesn't,

00:19:24.720 you know,

00:19:25.580 he doesn't take

00:19:26.980 the opportunity.

00:19:27.780 He's really good

00:19:28.220 at shooting

00:19:28.700 from the hip

00:19:29.300 sometimes

00:19:30.020 in front of the media

00:19:30.920 in a controlled

00:19:31.720 environment

00:19:32.220 where he has reporters

00:19:33.960 that are friendly

00:19:34.620 to him

00:19:35.120 asking him the question.

00:19:36.660 He probably knows

00:19:37.580 what some of those

00:19:38.200 questions are going to be.

00:19:40.420 But the record

00:19:41.400 speaks for itself

00:19:42.300 and that's what

00:19:42.840 we're here to do.

00:19:43.700 We're here to remind

00:19:44.540 Ontarians

00:19:45.140 what the record

00:19:46.780 actually is

00:19:47.600 and not to fall

00:19:48.240 for the rhetoric.

00:19:50.600 And more and more

00:19:51.480 people are

00:19:52.420 realizing it.

00:19:54.140 You know,

00:19:54.300 we had 127,000

00:19:55.900 people vote

00:19:56.600 New Blue

00:19:57.060 in 2022.

00:19:59.500 Like I said,

00:19:59.980 that was the highest

00:20:00.840 number of votes

00:20:02.020 for a party

00:20:03.920 in their first election

00:20:05.000 in Ontario

00:20:05.580 since the 1930s,

00:20:08.040 which is the

00:20:08.540 precursor of the NDP.

00:20:10.000 That was even better

00:20:10.640 than Reform did

00:20:11.420 in 1988

00:20:12.140 with Preston Manning

00:20:13.100 leading them.

00:20:14.260 In their first

00:20:14.740 Ontario,

00:20:15.380 like the first time

00:20:15.940 they ran Ontario

00:20:16.820 candidates,

00:20:17.760 you mean,

00:20:17.980 or in general?

00:20:18.620 Just in general

00:20:19.460 in the election

00:20:20.140 overall,

00:20:20.820 they only got 2.2%

00:20:22.440 in that election.

00:20:23.760 Yeah,

00:20:23.940 and they had the

00:20:24.600 strength of the West,

00:20:25.440 right?

00:20:25.720 So we can't raise

00:20:26.800 money from conservatives

00:20:27.840 out West

00:20:28.380 because we're

00:20:28.740 an Ontario party

00:20:29.720 and Reform had,

00:20:32.440 you know,

00:20:32.740 the base of the West

00:20:33.700 so they were

00:20:34.160 eventually able

00:20:35.080 to crack into Ontario

00:20:36.360 when you have

00:20:36.940 a bunch of seats

00:20:37.800 in the House of Commons

00:20:39.440 federally

00:20:40.020 from the West.

00:20:41.620 You know,

00:20:41.760 it's easier to kind

00:20:42.700 of build that profile.

00:20:45.440 We are just Ontario.

00:20:47.060 We're not a federal party

00:20:48.060 and I think we did

00:20:50.100 well in that first

00:20:50.900 election considering,

00:20:52.420 you know,

00:20:53.360 we got going

00:20:54.160 about a year

00:20:54.840 and a bit before

00:20:56.760 and we were kind

00:20:59.080 of locked down

00:20:59.540 for most of it

00:21:00.120 so there wasn't

00:21:00.640 a lot of touring

00:21:01.240 that could do.

00:21:02.060 There wasn't,

00:21:02.800 people were afraid

00:21:03.420 to go meet people

00:21:04.260 and,

00:21:05.600 you know,

00:21:06.600 we've got to keep

00:21:07.300 building on that

00:21:08.180 and the great thing

00:21:09.600 about the New Blue Party

00:21:10.500 is the more

00:21:11.500 Ontarians hear about it,

00:21:12.940 the more they become

00:21:13.760 open to it

00:21:14.460 and so there's

00:21:15.080 two primary goals

00:21:16.180 that we have

00:21:16.860 or challenges

00:21:18.180 I should say

00:21:18.800 that are goals.

00:21:20.180 Number one,

00:21:21.060 obviously we need

00:21:21.780 more Ontario voters

00:21:22.920 to learn about

00:21:23.780 the New Blue.

00:21:24.460 An interesting thing

00:21:25.220 happened last election,

00:21:27.080 Wyatt,

00:21:27.340 remember the day

00:21:27.860 after voting,

00:21:29.040 New Blue was

00:21:29.580 trending on Twitter.

00:21:31.380 That's because

00:21:31.940 people were going

00:21:32.580 to the ballot box

00:21:33.200 seeing this New Blue Party

00:21:34.540 for the first time

00:21:35.340 in every riding

00:21:36.060 and,

00:21:37.340 you know,

00:21:37.920 whether they hated

00:21:38.720 or wanted to make fun

00:21:39.900 of it

00:21:40.140 or championed it

00:21:41.320 or asked questions,

00:21:42.620 all of a sudden

00:21:43.100 they were on Twitter

00:21:43.760 tweeting New Blue

00:21:45.160 and intrigued.

00:21:48.060 But a lot,

00:21:48.880 you know,

00:21:49.200 there are people

00:21:49.880 that don't know

00:21:50.360 about the New Blue

00:21:51.040 because the mainstream

00:21:51.940 media doesn't want

00:21:52.580 to cover us.

00:21:53.600 We don't get invited

00:21:54.240 to leaders debates.

00:21:56.940 But then there are

00:21:57.720 people that know

00:21:58.320 about the New Blue

00:21:58.900 and aren't maybe ready

00:22:00.360 to give it a vote

00:22:01.700 and that's logical

00:22:03.080 in the sense

00:22:04.160 that the other parties

00:22:05.880 have been around

00:22:06.580 for a hundred years

00:22:08.200 for the NDP,

00:22:09.140 the Liberals,

00:22:09.680 the NDP,

00:22:11.120 the PC,

00:22:11.940 sorry.

00:22:12.380 And then you got

00:22:12.960 the Greens

00:22:13.360 that have been around

00:22:13.860 for 60,

00:22:14.520 70 years

00:22:15.060 and that's like

00:22:16.280 embedded in the

00:22:17.920 mindset of a brand

00:22:19.760 that is consistent.

00:22:21.540 You know,

00:22:21.760 it's always going

00:22:22.220 to be there.

00:22:22.920 It's not a one-trick pony.

00:22:25.480 People looking

00:22:26.220 at the New Blue,

00:22:26.960 they're going to need

00:22:27.860 at least two,

00:22:29.320 maybe three,

00:22:30.540 four elections

00:22:31.140 to see New Blue

00:22:32.000 repeatedly on the ballot

00:22:33.120 and say,

00:22:33.560 okay,

00:22:33.700 this is not going away.

00:22:34.940 This is a legit

00:22:36.340 political party

00:22:37.320 that's going to have

00:22:38.480 candidates every election

00:22:39.640 and then you're going

00:22:40.260 to see some of those

00:22:41.020 votes move over

00:22:42.620 as opposed to just

00:22:44.480 popping up the first time.

00:22:45.700 You know,

00:22:46.000 voting a different way,

00:22:47.700 people take their vote

00:22:48.400 very,

00:22:48.720 very seriously

00:22:49.260 and voting a different way

00:22:51.800 is not like changing,

00:22:52.980 you know,

00:22:53.500 you know,

00:22:54.180 the cereal you're going

00:22:54.960 to buy

00:22:55.260 or the type of produce.

00:22:56.900 And people who voted

00:22:57.740 for like Mike Harris's

00:22:59.440 PC party

00:23:00.120 back in the 90s,

00:23:01.220 it's almost like

00:23:02.360 that that version

00:23:03.200 of the PC party

00:23:04.140 almost always leaves

00:23:05.780 an impression

00:23:06.280 for how they consider

00:23:07.300 the party today,

00:23:08.740 even if the party today

00:23:09.900 really doesn't reflect

00:23:11.200 any of the,

00:23:12.120 of Mike Harris's ideas

00:23:13.500 of fiscal responsibility

00:23:14.840 and social conservatism.

00:23:16.960 It's just,

00:23:17.300 but because it's almost

00:23:18.640 like there's a lag

00:23:19.540 where it takes a long time

00:23:21.020 and a lot of bad decisions

00:23:22.160 for people to finally realize

00:23:23.700 these guys are like

00:23:24.820 Kathleen Wynne's liberals.

00:23:26.180 I actually cannot

00:23:27.080 see a difference.

00:23:28.180 In fact,

00:23:28.680 I like to bring this up

00:23:29.860 because it's striking

00:23:30.680 that obviously you guys

00:23:32.740 would have called it out too,

00:23:34.040 but Bonnie Crombie

00:23:35.640 had to call out Doug Ford

00:23:36.860 for putting the statue

00:23:38.000 of John A. McDonald

00:23:38.880 on the grounds

00:23:39.900 of Queens Park

00:23:40.780 in a wooden box.

00:23:42.740 Like this is the,

00:23:44.180 this is the like

00:23:45.100 the PCs that are supposed

00:23:46.380 to be for our history.

00:23:48.740 And he,

00:23:49.580 you know,

00:23:50.040 he doesn't care about history.

00:23:52.000 You know,

00:23:52.600 the Mike Harris days,

00:23:53.780 those were a long,

00:23:54.500 long time ago

00:23:55.000 and a very different time.

00:23:57.560 We're talking about decades now

00:23:58.740 and it's not possible

00:24:01.120 to get a Mike Harris leader

00:24:02.380 of the PCs now

00:24:03.400 because,

00:24:04.280 you know,

00:24:05.420 the logical thing

00:24:06.340 would be to

00:24:07.060 fight from within.

00:24:08.720 You know,

00:24:08.900 that's the other piece

00:24:09.960 of rhetoric

00:24:10.620 that PC operators do.

00:24:11.860 You know,

00:24:12.400 you got to work

00:24:12.940 from the inside,

00:24:14.140 quote unquote,

00:24:15.100 make a difference

00:24:15.800 on the inside.

00:24:16.460 Well,

00:24:16.720 you know,

00:24:16.960 show me someone

00:24:17.620 who's worked

00:24:18.160 from the inside

00:24:18.680 more than me

00:24:19.360 in Ontario

00:24:20.080 or Canadian politics.

00:24:21.760 I don't think

00:24:22.300 you're going to find

00:24:22.820 someone who's fought

00:24:23.820 harder on the inside

00:24:25.180 of the establishment

00:24:26.340 parties to make change.

00:24:27.780 And the reality is

00:24:29.060 when you get strong enough

00:24:30.400 within a political party

00:24:32.100 in the establishment parties

00:24:33.340 to influence change,

00:24:34.960 to win nominations,

00:24:36.700 to win a presidential election

00:24:39.060 for party president,

00:24:40.100 which I ran in,

00:24:41.400 to win a leadership,

00:24:43.020 what they do

00:24:43.580 is either they rig the vote

00:24:44.640 or they kick you out.

00:24:45.580 And it's not like the U.S.

00:24:46.900 where the primaries

00:24:47.760 are protected

00:24:48.440 and, you know,

00:24:49.420 they can't just disqualify

00:24:50.640 Donald Trump

00:24:51.220 for no reason

00:24:51.960 off the ballot.

00:24:53.620 Here,

00:24:54.160 they just,

00:24:54.600 a small committee

00:24:55.220 of three or four people

00:24:56.320 just decide

00:24:56.980 you're not in the race

00:24:57.860 and you're done.

00:24:58.840 And there's no legal,

00:25:00.200 there's no legal,

00:25:01.200 there's no rules,

00:25:02.000 there's no law,

00:25:02.660 there's no legal recourse

00:25:03.860 for it.

00:25:04.660 And the same

00:25:05.240 when they rig an election.

00:25:06.280 I ran for PC party president

00:25:07.820 when Doug Ford

00:25:08.600 was newly elected

00:25:09.320 as premier.

00:25:10.900 His team of lobbyists

00:25:12.480 and hacks in the back,

00:25:14.860 they didn't know

00:25:15.780 how to campaign against me,

00:25:16.880 they didn't know

00:25:17.220 how to stop me.

00:25:18.660 So they had a huge team,

00:25:20.100 they had all the resources,

00:25:21.460 they had the premier staff,

00:25:22.620 they had PC party staff

00:25:23.700 all working against me.

00:25:24.540 At the end of the day,

00:25:25.200 they had to stuff the ballots

00:25:26.340 to stop me.

00:25:27.740 So there's no working it

00:25:28.560 on the inside.

00:25:29.780 So what does this all mean?

00:25:31.040 Because you might be hearing this

00:25:32.200 for the first time thinking,

00:25:33.200 this is pretty dire.

00:25:34.440 Like this is a bad frontier.

00:25:35.740 Well,

00:25:36.360 there's a silver lining here.

00:25:38.860 And

00:25:39.000 the PCs,

00:25:40.500 the liberals,

00:25:40.900 the NDP

00:25:41.200 are all the same.

00:25:42.980 But the good news is,

00:25:44.300 if we do enough campaigning

00:25:45.760 and the new blue party

00:25:46.880 continues to grow

00:25:48.760 as a force

00:25:49.480 and we challenge them

00:25:50.780 on some established narratives,

00:25:52.480 what happens is

00:25:54.420 as soon as one of the parties

00:25:55.760 adopts a position

00:25:57.080 because

00:25:57.480 the vast majority

00:25:58.860 of Ontarians agree,

00:26:00.100 for example,

00:26:00.600 drug injection sites,

00:26:02.120 Ontarians are turning against them.

00:26:03.900 As soon as one of the parties

00:26:05.500 moves,

00:26:06.800 they all move.

00:26:08.060 So as soon as you get

00:26:08.900 the PCs

00:26:09.580 to move on a carbon tax,

00:26:10.880 you see Bonnie Crombie

00:26:11.780 move on a carbon tax.

00:26:13.280 As soon as you see

00:26:14.300 PCs move on drug injection sites,

00:26:16.360 you see left-wing mayors

00:26:17.440 and the liberals

00:26:18.100 and the NDP,

00:26:18.740 they basically stop

00:26:22.120 advocating aggressively

00:26:23.260 for drug injection sites.

00:26:25.200 And none of that can happen

00:26:26.360 if we don't have

00:26:27.520 a strong new blue party

00:26:28.700 holding their feet

00:26:29.460 to the fire

00:26:29.960 and bringing up those issues

00:26:31.480 that none of them

00:26:32.840 will ever bring up

00:26:33.640 because they're cowards.

00:26:34.980 And that's

00:26:35.400 the most important reason

00:26:37.280 to give the new blue party

00:26:38.380 your vote

00:26:40.320 on February 27th.

00:26:42.780 And I wouldn't fully encourage

00:26:43.760 everyone watching this.

00:26:44.700 If you live in Ontario,

00:26:45.760 I would get

00:26:46.280 a new blue party membership,

00:26:47.880 sign up for their email,

00:26:48.620 on the list.

00:26:49.300 Just keep in the loop

00:26:50.740 with what they're doing.

00:26:52.120 Obviously, vote for them

00:26:53.020 in this provincial election

00:26:53.960 if you have a new blue

00:26:55.000 candidate in your area.

00:26:56.500 If you don't,

00:26:57.140 you can probably just vote

00:26:57.740 for some independent

00:26:58.640 that's there

00:27:00.560 or at least

00:27:00.940 don't put your ballot in.

00:27:03.160 The only places

00:27:04.000 you guys really

00:27:04.580 didn't have candidates

00:27:05.360 were in areas

00:27:06.080 like Parkdale Hyde Park

00:27:07.360 or somewhere like Spadino

00:27:08.740 where it was going

00:27:09.380 to be pretty difficult

00:27:10.160 to get somebody

00:27:10.920 to run there anyways.

00:27:12.920 And it's a downtown

00:27:13.900 Toronto riding.

00:27:15.560 To bring this up,

00:27:16.500 actually,

00:27:16.840 because now you and I

00:27:17.880 have both experienced

00:27:19.000 insider political shenanigans

00:27:20.640 of being kicked out of races

00:27:21.800 and undermined

00:27:22.640 and whatnot.

00:27:23.400 Your wife even put forward

00:27:25.080 a private members bill

00:27:26.980 back when she was a PCMPP.

00:27:30.120 She was still in the party.

00:27:31.580 She put forward

00:27:32.060 a private members bill

00:27:33.160 to actually have

00:27:34.880 Elections Ontario

00:27:36.380 be able to prosecute people

00:27:38.020 for rigging

00:27:38.560 internal party nominations.

00:27:39.880 Because obviously,

00:27:40.660 it's not a private club

00:27:41.720 at the end of the day

00:27:42.380 because this is picking somebody

00:27:44.140 who is going to hold

00:27:45.600 public office.

00:27:46.800 And in most ridings,

00:27:47.920 it's a safe seat

00:27:48.760 and whoever gets nominated

00:27:49.720 is going to be the guy.

00:27:51.240 And what did they do

00:27:52.060 to that bill

00:27:52.700 if you can give me

00:27:53.460 some background?

00:27:54.880 Yeah, so a lot of people

00:27:56.080 don't know that

00:27:57.680 in Ontario politics

00:27:59.280 and Canadian politics,

00:28:01.340 what we call nominations

00:28:03.240 to pick a candidate

00:28:04.480 out of a political party

00:28:05.580 or internal party races

00:28:06.860 to elect the party president,

00:28:08.100 if someone stuffs the ballot

00:28:10.960 in the general election,

00:28:11.940 so February 27th,

00:28:13.420 someone shows up

00:28:14.340 to a polling station,

00:28:16.460 grabs three ballots

00:28:17.400 from the polling clerks,

00:28:19.120 fills them up,

00:28:19.860 puts them in the box,

00:28:21.400 gets rowdy in a polling station,

00:28:23.440 takes a box

00:28:24.560 and runs away with it

00:28:25.700 or impersonates someone else.

00:28:28.000 There's all laws

00:28:28.900 in Ontario

00:28:30.820 under the Elections Act

00:28:32.000 that says it's illegal.

00:28:34.000 You can't do that

00:28:34.740 at a general election.

00:28:36.480 We can get in

00:28:37.140 a whole discussion

00:28:37.820 as to how often

00:28:38.660 they prosecute,

00:28:39.400 but there have been

00:28:39.980 cases in the past

00:28:41.280 where people have got,

00:28:42.840 received punishment

00:28:44.140 and prosecuted

00:28:45.480 for violations

00:28:48.080 of the Election Act

00:28:48.980 and a lot of that

00:28:49.920 is on the financial side.

00:28:52.340 But for internal party races,

00:28:54.120 you're running for party president,

00:28:55.900 you're running

00:28:56.200 an internal nomination.

00:28:58.020 If someone does that,

00:28:59.760 there's nothing.

00:29:00.460 You can't do anything.

00:29:01.440 You can't call police.

00:29:02.680 You can't report them

00:29:04.500 to Elections Ontario

00:29:05.400 because they'll all tell you

00:29:06.600 there are no laws

00:29:08.020 on the book

00:29:08.520 against that.

00:29:10.060 And that's stunning

00:29:11.620 when my wife realized

00:29:13.160 that as an MPP.

00:29:14.880 And she did a very simple

00:29:16.440 private members bill,

00:29:17.340 which is just to say

00:29:18.220 the exact same sections

00:29:19.340 in the Elections Act

00:29:20.160 that apply at general elections.

00:29:21.860 They should apply

00:29:23.060 to internal party elections.

00:29:26.120 And wouldn't you know it?

00:29:27.900 The PCs

00:29:28.400 who were under fire

00:29:29.920 for two years

00:29:30.900 when Patrick Brown

00:29:32.580 was in charge

00:29:33.240 for having voter fraud

00:29:35.160 in their internal party races,

00:29:36.700 they refused to move it

00:29:38.060 out of committee.

00:29:38.840 They let it die

00:29:39.840 in committee

00:29:40.440 after second reading.

00:29:41.760 They wouldn't bring it back.

00:29:43.300 Really simple bill.

00:29:44.580 Like who's against,

00:29:46.160 who's in favor

00:29:46.860 of voter fraud?

00:29:47.840 Everyone's against it.

00:29:49.140 99% of Ontarians

00:29:50.580 are against voter fraud,

00:29:52.140 except, you know,

00:29:52.720 maybe there's a cynical 1%

00:29:54.060 that the lobbyists

00:29:55.180 probably are for voter fraud

00:29:56.720 so they can keep rigging

00:29:58.100 their elections.

00:29:58.560 But the other 99%

00:29:59.700 of Ontarians

00:30:00.320 are against it

00:30:01.100 and the PCs

00:30:02.160 let the bill die

00:30:03.400 on the paper.

00:30:04.460 And here's the thing too

00:30:05.980 is that they could still,

00:30:07.680 in theory,

00:30:08.300 just appoint candidates

00:30:09.500 if you're not allowed

00:30:10.740 to rig a race.

00:30:11.700 You could just appoint

00:30:12.300 the candidate.

00:30:13.100 But the problem is

00:30:13.760 a lot of the establishment

00:30:14.560 parties want the veneer

00:30:16.920 that they're nominating people,

00:30:19.000 that there was a vote

00:30:20.080 that was held

00:30:20.760 and someone was nominated

00:30:22.000 even though

00:30:23.040 in some of these races

00:30:24.060 that were happening

00:30:25.420 under Patrick Brown,

00:30:26.700 you would literally,

00:30:27.680 I heard,

00:30:28.080 have the lights turned off

00:30:29.080 in the room

00:30:29.380 so someone could grab

00:30:30.000 a ballot box

00:30:30.660 and run out

00:30:31.200 or they would just kick out

00:30:32.920 the three actual

00:30:33.820 serious challengers

00:30:35.060 to their guy

00:30:35.860 that they wanted

00:30:36.560 and then he runs

00:30:37.460 against some nobody

00:30:38.320 who was in the race

00:30:39.040 for five seconds

00:30:39.740 and he wins.

00:30:40.820 Whoa, I couldn't believe

00:30:41.960 that happened.

00:30:43.160 And then you move on.

00:30:44.080 But it sounds like

00:30:45.140 to most people

00:30:45.900 who are not party members

00:30:47.260 and don't follow races

00:30:48.380 particularly closely,

00:30:50.040 oh, this guy won a nomination.

00:30:51.800 And less than 1%

00:30:53.040 of people most of the time

00:30:54.480 have a membership

00:30:56.260 for any federal

00:30:57.640 or provincial party.

00:30:58.820 That is counting

00:30:59.940 all types of parties

00:31:01.200 combined,

00:31:01.720 probably even municipal

00:31:02.740 parties in Vancouver.

00:31:04.540 Less than 1% of Canadians

00:31:05.840 or just 1% of Canadians

00:31:07.240 most years

00:31:07.920 have a membership.

00:31:08.900 There's multiple

00:31:09.400 leadership races.

00:31:10.240 It might be a little bit more,

00:31:11.240 but you get my point.

00:31:12.860 And that's the thing

00:31:13.660 with the Doug Ford PC party.

00:31:15.240 In 2022, in fact,

00:31:17.200 I think most of their candidates

00:31:19.160 were basically just acclaimed

00:31:20.580 whenever they got

00:31:21.340 a nomination challenger.

00:31:22.520 If they got a nomination challenger,

00:31:23.760 it wasn't Doug Ford's guy,

00:31:24.900 got acclaimed immediately.

00:31:26.000 Yeah, there were no elections.

00:31:28.920 The election stopped

00:31:29.960 in the PC party

00:31:30.840 after the 2018 convention.

00:31:34.720 So in 2018,

00:31:35.380 they came out of

00:31:36.320 the general election.

00:31:38.620 They won

00:31:39.060 and they rushed

00:31:40.040 into a general election.

00:31:41.260 I ran for party president

00:31:42.420 and Doug Ford

00:31:45.080 and his staff

00:31:46.080 with the help

00:31:47.380 of some fake

00:31:48.060 social conservatives

00:31:48.980 and fake pro-life groups.

00:31:51.080 They wanted to

00:31:52.460 put in place

00:31:54.760 their red Tory guy

00:31:56.060 who's been around

00:31:56.660 for 50 years

00:31:57.460 and they rigged it

00:31:58.840 to ensure that happened.

00:32:00.920 And after that,

00:32:02.920 I blew the whistle.

00:32:05.440 I fought back.

00:32:06.760 They've never had

00:32:07.740 an election again.

00:32:08.800 So all their candidates

00:32:09.880 are just picked.

00:32:10.500 And PC members

00:32:12.580 would be appalled

00:32:13.320 at the candidates

00:32:14.120 that they're picking.

00:32:15.360 They've got

00:32:15.800 card-carrying liberals

00:32:17.220 that are candidates

00:32:18.200 for the PCs

00:32:18.800 that become MPPs.

00:32:20.220 Then they had another convention

00:32:21.660 in 2020

00:32:22.480 to pick a new

00:32:24.820 party president

00:32:25.880 and they just put in place

00:32:27.100 a lobbyist.

00:32:27.980 So there's no more elections

00:32:29.840 and that's a great example,

00:32:32.240 Wyatt,

00:32:32.460 of why the new blue party exists

00:32:34.420 because you can't fix

00:32:35.340 that party from the inside.

00:32:37.100 Yeah, and that's a good thing

00:32:39.180 we actually addressed that

00:32:40.620 because I almost get

00:32:41.660 driven up the wall.

00:32:42.920 Yes, there are times

00:32:43.980 when there are smaller parties

00:32:46.200 that pop up

00:32:47.600 and it's just a purity party

00:32:49.620 that they are peer

00:32:50.440 on this issue

00:32:51.100 and they think

00:32:51.680 that the bigger party

00:32:52.580 isn't doing a good enough job.

00:32:53.980 You know, that's fair enough.

00:32:55.020 They can do that.

00:32:55.800 But usually there's not

00:32:57.160 really as good of a case

00:32:59.620 to start the new party.

00:33:00.600 In Ontario,

00:33:01.800 it was a textbook example

00:33:03.600 of the party insiders

00:33:06.440 are never going to really

00:33:07.300 let you make change.

00:33:09.440 They're never going to actually

00:33:11.020 change how they do things at all.

00:33:13.220 And so you would be a fool

00:33:14.660 to keep being tricked

00:33:15.780 by people

00:33:16.360 and to just continue

00:33:18.320 trying to make change

00:33:19.280 from the inside.

00:33:20.060 They'll just send you

00:33:20.840 on some treadmill somewhere

00:33:22.480 just spinning your tires.

00:33:24.060 Maybe they give you

00:33:24.740 a couple of small victories

00:33:26.020 here and there

00:33:26.580 that don't really mean anything

00:33:27.760 and then you never go anywhere.

00:33:29.540 Ontario,

00:33:30.840 and so federally,

00:33:32.160 I'd be voting

00:33:32.960 for federal conservatives.

00:33:34.440 Ontario,

00:33:35.160 I'd be voting New Blue

00:33:36.280 because I actually

00:33:37.780 eventually need to vote

00:33:38.800 for a party

00:33:39.260 that is even in the orbit

00:33:40.820 of my values

00:33:42.360 and the Ontario PC party

00:33:43.920 is far away from it.

00:33:45.600 That's why I've noticed,

00:33:47.280 and again,

00:33:47.620 going back to the polls

00:33:48.460 a little bit,

00:33:49.400 I noticed the same groups

00:33:50.880 and demographics

00:33:51.460 and regions

00:33:52.020 that tend to disproportionately

00:33:53.380 vote federal liberal

00:33:54.740 are voting PC

00:33:56.160 because federal conservatives

00:33:57.640 mostly just sit it out

00:33:58.740 because they don't even know

00:33:59.520 what this race is even about.

00:34:01.400 They look at Doug Ford

00:34:02.460 who's just campaigning

00:34:03.760 on the fact that

00:34:04.380 I didn't raise any taxes

00:34:07.380 which you've already said

00:34:08.380 is fake

00:34:08.840 and they're like,

00:34:10.140 but that means we're still

00:34:11.360 at the sky-high taxes

00:34:12.640 that Kathleen Wynne posted.

00:34:14.680 Taxes are by rate.

00:34:16.240 It's not like it's a raw tax

00:34:17.800 that he hasn't raised.

00:34:19.260 People are still

00:34:20.100 on the top marginal taxes

00:34:21.700 paying 55, 58%

00:34:24.660 of their taxes

00:34:25.380 when you take into account

00:34:26.560 federal, provincial,

00:34:27.720 and property taxes.

00:34:29.080 It's ridiculous.

00:34:30.500 And so maybe

00:34:31.240 if you could give me

00:34:31.840 a rundown

00:34:32.380 of the top five

00:34:33.680 kind of big platform points

00:34:35.600 of New Blue.

00:34:36.340 I know you guys

00:34:36.920 have a very extensive

00:34:37.800 New Blueprint 2.0.

00:34:39.940 People can go read

00:34:40.640 on the website.

00:34:41.340 I'll link that here.

00:34:42.880 But what are sort of

00:34:43.820 the things that if you,

00:34:45.160 you know,

00:34:45.340 your elevator pitch

00:34:46.260 of what New Blue stands for?

00:34:48.180 Yeah, I mean,

00:34:48.780 number one,

00:34:50.020 primarily,

00:34:50.660 whether you're a federal

00:34:51.760 Christian Heritage Party voter,

00:34:53.660 PPC voter,

00:34:55.280 Conservative Party,

00:34:55.880 Canada voter,

00:34:56.780 or, you know,

00:34:57.180 there's a lot of

00:34:57.900 small-c Conservative voters

00:35:00.520 who voted Liberal,

00:35:02.120 believe it or not,

00:35:03.400 because of the scandals

00:35:04.460 that Stephen Harper

00:35:05.260 was going through

00:35:06.180 near the end of his term.

00:35:08.040 The primary motivation

00:35:09.280 for why you'd look

00:35:10.300 at the New Blue Party

00:35:11.220 is to hold government

00:35:12.420 accountable

00:35:12.880 and clean house

00:35:13.580 at Queen's Park.

00:35:14.920 And so people are getting

00:35:15.840 tired of Ontario politics

00:35:17.580 because it doesn't matter

00:35:18.700 whether you got McGinty,

00:35:20.040 Wynn, Doug Ford,

00:35:21.260 it's the same scandal

00:35:22.320 after scandal

00:35:23.080 at Queen's Park

00:35:23.860 over and over

00:35:24.780 and over again.

00:35:26.040 And they want ethical change

00:35:27.640 and they want people

00:35:28.320 with integrity

00:35:28.980 going in there.

00:35:30.920 And in any riding

00:35:31.840 across Ontario,

00:35:32.640 if you're voting

00:35:33.200 for the NDP candidate,

00:35:34.400 the Liberal candidate,

00:35:35.800 or the PC candidate,

00:35:36.820 you're just going

00:35:37.280 to get a mouthpiece

00:35:38.140 for the party lobbyists

00:35:39.760 that are running the show,

00:35:40.980 not even for the party leader,

00:35:42.460 it's the party lobbyists.

00:35:43.540 So that's why you're seeing,

00:35:45.060 I think,

00:35:47.060 voter totals going down.

00:35:52.620 Yeah, it's like Apple.

00:35:53.880 In 22,

00:35:54.580 it was like,

00:35:54.860 I think,

00:35:55.140 47% turnout.

00:35:57.200 Usually,

00:35:57.640 you never go below 50%.

00:35:59.520 I think the only times

00:36:00.420 you go below 50%

00:36:01.680 is like in World War II

00:36:03.500 when nobody's home to vote.

00:36:05.440 Yeah.

00:36:05.820 And so if you want

00:36:06.760 a party that's going

00:36:07.480 to clean house

00:36:08.060 and take a hard look

00:36:09.560 at why the system's

00:36:10.980 kind of broken

00:36:11.520 in Ontario politics

00:36:12.720 and having accountable MPPs,

00:36:15.680 it's the New Blue Party.

00:36:16.880 If you want

00:36:17.580 the same old nonsense,

00:36:18.460 then you can vote

00:36:19.440 for one of the other

00:36:20.060 three parties.

00:36:20.600 But, you know,

00:36:21.600 no one should be surprised

00:36:22.600 when they're going

00:36:23.020 to get the same garbage

00:36:24.220 that we've been getting

00:36:24.960 for the last 20 years

00:36:26.080 for four more years,

00:36:27.740 if that's the case.

00:36:29.360 Other policies

00:36:30.320 that we have in place,

00:36:31.220 there's really two pillars

00:36:32.600 of the new blueprint.

00:36:33.560 Number one,

00:36:34.640 we advocate for policies

00:36:35.960 that put meritocracy first.

00:36:38.800 And that means

00:36:39.700 getting rid of initiatives

00:36:40.900 like DEI initiatives.

00:36:42.540 That means stopping

00:36:43.580 all the woke activism

00:36:45.300 in provincial government,

00:36:47.580 whether it's

00:36:47.980 in the education system,

00:36:49.180 whether it's in healthcare.

00:36:50.740 That means allowing choice

00:36:51.980 in healthcare

00:36:52.880 to make sure that

00:36:53.720 you can go see

00:36:54.940 a healthcare practitioner

00:36:56.460 as quickly as I can

00:36:57.300 take my dog

00:36:57.960 to get to a veterinarian.

00:37:01.160 And the choice

00:37:02.140 in education

00:37:02.760 is another example

00:37:03.740 in providing tax relief

00:37:04.900 for people that

00:37:06.000 choose not to send

00:37:07.040 their kids

00:37:07.380 to a public school.

00:37:08.900 And then on the fiscal side,

00:37:10.800 the second pillar

00:37:11.560 of the new blueprint

00:37:12.280 is to grow the economy

00:37:13.420 and put permanent

00:37:14.440 tax relief in place.

00:37:15.960 Growing the economy

00:37:16.760 starts with reducing

00:37:19.760 electricity rates.

00:37:21.000 The biggest driver

00:37:22.660 in terms of driving

00:37:23.800 our economy down

00:37:24.860 for the last 20 years

00:37:25.940 has been rising

00:37:27.080 electricity rates

00:37:28.000 and rising debt.

00:37:29.580 And the electricity rates

00:37:30.620 are only going to go down

00:37:31.400 if we get rid

00:37:31.940 of the wind turbines.

00:37:33.500 And then with the

00:37:34.060 growing economy,

00:37:34.700 we've got to do

00:37:35.500 a massive tax relief

00:37:37.480 because Doug Ford

00:37:38.400 in six years now

00:37:39.620 has not offered

00:37:40.780 any tax relief

00:37:41.760 other than a short,

00:37:42.900 you know,

00:37:43.600 a two-month window

00:37:44.700 or a few-month window

00:37:46.780 on cutting gas taxes,

00:37:49.200 which he never made permanent.

00:37:51.140 And then,

00:37:51.780 you know,

00:37:52.520 I think there was

00:37:53.000 a little break

00:37:53.560 from the HST

00:37:54.600 or whatever

00:37:55.020 for a little bit.

00:37:55.660 And if the industrial

00:37:56.320 carbon tax

00:37:56.960 is put in place,

00:37:59.560 it more than makes up

00:38:00.560 for the small

00:38:01.400 temporary reduction

00:38:02.940 that you get

00:38:03.460 in the gas tax.

00:38:04.680 The funny thing is

00:38:05.560 the federal liberals

00:38:06.900 and PCs

00:38:07.400 share ideas all the time.

00:38:09.600 Ford's the one

00:38:10.080 who did the $200

00:38:10.760 check idea first

00:38:11.980 and then Trudeau

00:38:12.880 did the $250

00:38:13.720 check thing,

00:38:14.860 the same sort of

00:38:15.680 bloated plan

00:38:16.540 that gives people

00:38:17.300 back a little bit

00:38:18.080 of their money

00:38:18.500 for a massive

00:38:19.180 bureaucratic expense.

00:38:22.140 And then Doug Ford

00:38:23.020 also did

00:38:24.120 the short-lived

00:38:25.440 gas tax cut

00:38:26.400 to make himself

00:38:27.100 temporarily popular.

00:38:28.720 And Mark Carney

00:38:29.680 and Justin Trudeau

00:38:30.340 said,

00:38:30.680 that's brilliant.

00:38:31.900 We should cut

00:38:32.820 the HST

00:38:33.740 for like,

00:38:35.420 you know,

00:38:35.660 two months

00:38:36.160 and pretend

00:38:36.620 that we're giving

00:38:37.560 people real tax relief

00:38:38.680 right before we hit them

00:38:39.680 with an increase

00:38:40.480 in the carbon tax

00:38:41.280 in April.

00:38:41.980 And you get

00:38:42.580 your $250

00:38:43.300 Doug Ford

00:38:44.220 inspired check too.

00:38:46.060 And yeah,

00:38:46.900 and that's the thing

00:38:47.580 is that the government

00:38:48.420 is just covered

00:38:49.680 in subsidies

00:38:50.260 right now

00:38:50.820 in Ontario.

00:38:52.120 I just saw a study

00:38:53.240 from the Fraser Institute

00:38:54.380 to bring up

00:38:55.240 the Fraser Institute

00:38:55.960 again.

00:38:56.560 It was about

00:38:57.220 British Columbia,

00:38:58.040 but it would map

00:38:58.960 perfectly onto Ontario

00:39:00.320 because the tax systems

00:39:02.000 are similarly bloated

00:39:03.360 in those two provinces.

00:39:04.860 The top marginal tax rates

00:39:06.440 when you bring in

00:39:07.180 all the surtaxes

00:39:08.080 and whatnot

00:39:08.460 are sitting around

00:39:09.620 of 53%

00:39:10.660 provincial

00:39:11.340 and federal

00:39:11.740 combined.

00:39:12.800 They said

00:39:13.460 if the British

00:39:15.100 Columbia government

00:39:15.880 cut the top

00:39:16.560 marginal tax rate

00:39:17.520 from 20.5%

00:39:19.440 down to 14%,

00:39:21.820 they would only

00:39:23.020 forego

00:39:23.700 about $100 million

00:39:24.960 in the first year.

00:39:26.800 And then

00:39:27.080 by the third year,

00:39:28.600 they'd only be losing

00:39:29.680 about $400 million

00:39:30.840 in tax revenues.

00:39:32.380 And for a province

00:39:33.160 aside of British Columbia,

00:39:34.280 that's not that

00:39:35.060 big of an issue.

00:39:36.100 That's a rounding error

00:39:37.000 for their budget

00:39:37.940 that's hundreds

00:39:38.520 of billions.

00:39:39.800 And so like you look

00:39:40.820 at it,

00:39:40.980 you're like,

00:39:41.300 why not cut taxes?

00:39:43.160 Doug Ford could do

00:39:43.900 the same thing.

00:39:44.960 And you'll know

00:39:45.540 Ontario's government

00:39:47.420 does this kind of

00:39:48.500 sleight of hand trick

00:39:49.500 where its top marginal

00:39:50.640 tax rate is only 13%.

00:39:52.340 But then you pay

00:39:53.660 taxes on top

00:39:55.220 of your taxes

00:39:56.000 in order to actually

00:39:57.660 beef up their revenues,

00:39:59.180 which is why

00:40:00.100 the top marginal tax rate

00:40:01.380 in reality

00:40:02.160 in Ontario

00:40:03.260 is 53%.

00:40:04.300 Because you start

00:40:05.280 getting taxed

00:40:05.920 25% every dollar,

00:40:07.760 you give them

00:40:08.240 over $5,000.

00:40:09.580 And then once

00:40:10.080 you hit $7,500,

00:40:11.140 you have to pay them

00:40:11.860 another 33%

00:40:12.980 on every dollar

00:40:13.720 above that.

00:40:14.360 It's actually

00:40:15.000 such a scam.

00:40:16.660 Yeah.

00:40:16.960 And it's very

00:40:17.880 disappointing

00:40:18.380 that you have

00:40:18.980 what people thought

00:40:20.640 they were getting

00:40:21.020 a different government

00:40:21.840 when Doug Ford

00:40:22.520 came in power

00:40:23.220 with the massive

00:40:23.920 majority.

00:40:24.660 Belinda was part

00:40:25.320 of that.

00:40:26.560 And there's not

00:40:27.540 a tax,

00:40:28.340 there isn't tax

00:40:29.160 relief that Doug Ford

00:40:30.080 has seen that he likes.

00:40:30.920 And a lot

00:40:33.000 of the inflation

00:40:33.580 we've seen in Ontario

00:40:34.440 is because of his

00:40:35.100 government policies,

00:40:36.080 whether it's

00:40:36.620 introducing new red tape,

00:40:37.980 whether it's that

00:40:38.540 carbon dioxide registry

00:40:40.060 for emissions,

00:40:41.420 CO2 emissions

00:40:42.100 for industry

00:40:42.760 that's costly

00:40:43.520 and industry

00:40:44.620 just passes it down.

00:40:45.700 Whether it's

00:40:46.500 wasting money

00:40:47.840 on subsidies

00:40:49.500 for electrical

00:40:50.160 vehicle manufacturers

00:40:51.220 that stick around

00:40:51.980 for a year

00:40:52.360 and then get up

00:40:52.860 and leave anyways

00:40:53.580 with millions of dollars,

00:40:55.420 hundreds of millions

00:40:55.960 of dollars

00:40:56.400 of taxpayer money

00:40:57.140 in their pocket,

00:40:57.960 corporate welfare,

00:40:58.680 or whether it's

00:41:00.340 the industrial carbon tax.

00:41:01.580 This guy

00:41:02.080 has raised taxes

00:41:03.740 in fact

00:41:04.540 and it's a slap

00:41:06.140 in the face

00:41:06.580 to give you 200 bucks

00:41:07.480 before an election.

00:41:09.020 Unfortunately,

00:41:09.600 a lot of Ontarians

00:41:10.440 are slow

00:41:11.900 to realize this

00:41:12.920 because the media

00:41:13.580 is covering

00:41:14.040 for the Doug Ford PCs

00:41:15.260 and a lot

00:41:16.760 of the left-wing policies

00:41:17.800 they're putting in place

00:41:18.660 are favored

00:41:19.120 by the Liberals

00:41:19.820 and the NDP

00:41:20.240 so they're not going

00:41:20.980 to call Doug Ford

00:41:22.020 out on that.

00:41:22.980 That's why we need

00:41:23.680 voters to vote

00:41:24.820 New Blue

00:41:25.140 and give New Blue

00:41:26.160 a chance

00:41:26.640 so we can continue

00:41:27.420 to advocate

00:41:28.100 hold their feet

00:41:29.360 to the fire

00:41:30.000 and challenge the left

00:41:31.700 and change the course.

00:41:33.360 That's what we've been doing

00:41:34.640 for a long time

00:41:36.620 even before we started

00:41:37.600 the New Blue Party

00:41:38.420 and the more we can push

00:41:41.200 and the more support

00:41:41.920 we have behind us

00:41:42.780 it becomes harder

00:41:43.600 and harder

00:41:44.100 for the establishment press

00:41:46.000 and the establishment parties

00:41:47.160 to ignore

00:41:47.860 the support that we have

00:41:50.680 and the ideas

00:41:51.240 that we put down

00:41:52.080 and they're going to

00:41:53.600 jump

00:41:55.680 to copy our policies.

00:41:57.140 they're not going

00:41:57.660 to be so slow

00:41:58.400 in the future

00:41:59.000 and ultimately

00:42:00.020 that's what we want

00:42:00.960 we want eventually

00:42:02.260 to win seats

00:42:03.880 in Queen's Park

00:42:04.620 we want one day

00:42:06.060 to be the government

00:42:07.800 at Queen's Park

00:42:08.580 but in the meantime

00:42:09.480 we want to push

00:42:11.120 the issues

00:42:11.780 and continue to grow

00:42:12.940 and become a force

00:42:13.880 in Ontario politics

00:42:14.860 where they can't ignore

00:42:16.160 our positions

00:42:17.340 on issues

00:42:18.380 and they have to

00:42:19.340 adopt our issues

00:42:20.260 regardless of whether

00:42:21.200 it's a PC

00:42:21.860 government that's

00:42:23.420 adopting them

00:42:24.400 or another government

00:42:25.340 so I strongly urge

00:42:27.440 people to talk

00:42:28.180 to their neighbours

00:42:28.740 and if you want

00:42:29.800 a clean house

00:42:30.480 at Queen's Park

00:42:32.160 and make sure

00:42:33.400 the lobbyists

00:42:33.980 aren't the ones

00:42:34.480 running government

00:42:35.120 in Ontario forever

00:42:36.200 vote New Blue

00:42:37.400 and here

00:42:39.040 I just want to

00:42:39.480 bring up one thing

00:42:40.180 and then I have

00:42:40.560 one final question

00:42:41.520 for you in this

00:42:42.260 interview

00:42:42.560 one I do want

00:42:43.760 to give a shout out

00:42:44.460 to I don't know

00:42:45.400 their names

00:42:45.840 but several of my

00:42:46.820 audience actually

00:42:47.420 signed up to be

00:42:48.260 new blue candidates

00:42:49.080 in this election

00:42:49.840 so I wish you guys

00:42:51.240 all luck

00:42:51.720 but on the list

00:42:53.480 of spending subsidies

00:42:54.580 that you are mentioning

00:42:55.560 the thing I love

00:42:56.760 to bring up right now

00:42:57.500 because so few people

00:42:58.340 know it

00:42:58.740 is that cricket factory

00:43:00.320 that produced crickets

00:43:01.440 for human consumption

00:43:02.440 was also subsidized

00:43:05.000 by the Ontario government

00:43:06.900 there is a reason

00:43:07.760 why Vic Fidelli

00:43:08.820 came out

00:43:09.400 to do a grand speech

00:43:10.740 where he named it

00:43:11.480 as a success story

00:43:12.600 in Ontario

00:43:13.620 economic development

00:43:14.720 he's the minister

00:43:15.800 of economic development

00:43:17.560 in Ontario

00:43:18.120 and one guys

00:43:19.800 it's what I call

00:43:21.040 fake jobs

00:43:21.840 if the taxpayer

00:43:22.820 has to pay

00:43:23.460 for the job

00:43:24.040 to exist

00:43:24.620 it is a fake job

00:43:26.240 and that we should

00:43:27.040 be celebrating it

00:43:28.020 but I noticed

00:43:29.020 that so many

00:43:29.760 conservative influencers

00:43:30.980 and like

00:43:32.000 organizations

00:43:32.580 like Ontario Proud

00:43:33.640 and Canada Proud

00:43:34.260 they like to make fun

00:43:35.500 of Trudeau

00:43:36.020 for funding it

00:43:36.860 but it's just

00:43:38.080 you know

00:43:38.340 missing in action

00:43:39.340 the fact that

00:43:40.600 Ontario's government

00:43:41.520 was celebrating it

00:43:42.600 as much as

00:43:43.500 whoever the

00:43:44.140 economic development

00:43:45.380 minister is

00:43:46.120 from the liberals

00:43:47.040 but now

00:43:48.260 I just want to move

00:43:48.960 on to one other thing

00:43:50.400 and that is

00:43:51.860 why don't we vote

00:43:53.900 for the Ontario party

00:43:55.380 because this op

00:43:57.400 and it absolutely

00:43:58.460 is like

00:43:59.140 a textbook

00:44:00.340 I keep saying textbook

00:44:01.360 but as an example

00:44:02.460 of an actual

00:44:03.460 political operation

00:44:04.620 in Canada

00:44:05.420 why is it

00:44:07.000 that the Ontario party

00:44:08.480 and the new blue party

00:44:09.360 are not the same thing

00:44:10.740 shouldn't we be

00:44:11.840 uniting

00:44:12.600 together

00:44:13.940 in order to

00:44:14.780 stop the Ford PCs

00:44:16.200 so we've gone

00:44:18.060 over this before

00:44:18.900 on our website

00:44:19.780 and in various

00:44:20.500 interviews

00:44:20.800 I think even

00:44:21.320 with you Wyatt

00:44:22.000 first quickly

00:44:23.000 on Vic Fidelli

00:44:23.880 and the cricket factory

00:44:24.900 Vic Fidelli

00:44:28.060 for those of you

00:44:28.800 don't know

00:44:29.260 was a mayor

00:44:30.500 in the north

00:44:32.160 and he was a liberal

00:44:33.440 and the only reason

00:44:34.460 he ran for the PCs

00:44:35.380 because the liberals

00:44:36.180 didn't let him run

00:44:37.180 for him

00:44:37.580 for them

00:44:38.280 so he got mad

00:44:39.620 because he wanted

00:44:40.200 the liberal nomination

00:44:41.420 in his riding

00:44:42.120 and the liberals

00:44:43.720 turned him away

00:44:44.300 so he became a PC

00:44:45.160 so that's

00:44:45.960 that tends to be

00:44:46.920 the case

00:44:47.540 for all the PC MPPs

00:44:49.020 they become PCers

00:44:50.760 because they get

00:44:51.300 rejected by the liberals

00:44:52.420 the other thing

00:44:53.840 is yeah

00:44:54.180 when you look

00:44:55.220 at those social

00:44:55.860 media influencers

00:44:56.680 whether it's

00:44:57.220 Ontario Proud

00:44:58.260 or you know

00:44:59.780 those types

00:45:01.020 of outfits

00:45:01.660 if you're looking

00:45:02.340 at a social

00:45:03.100 media influencer

00:45:03.940 who's looking

00:45:05.140 at something

00:45:05.580 like the cricket factory

00:45:06.860 that's getting funded

00:45:08.080 by government

00:45:08.780 provincially

00:45:09.340 and federally

00:45:10.100 and they're only

00:45:10.880 criticizing the funding

00:45:12.140 that's attached

00:45:13.240 to the liberal

00:45:13.760 government

00:45:14.300 federally

00:45:14.900 but they're silent

00:45:16.240 on the PC government

00:45:17.500 it kind of gives away

00:45:18.980 who Ontario Proud

00:45:20.300 is connected to

00:45:21.000 right

00:45:21.260 so Ontario Proud

00:45:22.060 is not a small

00:45:23.340 C conservative outlet

00:45:24.520 they're actually

00:45:25.960 a big C conservative

00:45:27.400 PC outfit

00:45:28.680 that provides cover

00:45:30.560 to the PC party

00:45:31.600 and is entitled

00:45:32.440 to all the PC lobbyists

00:45:33.900 yeah

00:45:34.340 Canada Proud

00:45:35.220 still has me blocked

00:45:35.980 on social media

00:45:36.820 because we were calling

00:45:38.240 them out in 2020

00:45:39.080 for being directly

00:45:40.220 paid by the

00:45:41.740 Aaron O'Toole campaign

00:45:42.800 to pump him up

00:45:43.680 in that leadership race

00:45:45.080 and ignore people

00:45:45.980 like yourself

00:45:46.520 you actually haven't

00:45:47.180 mentioned it yet

00:45:47.680 you actually ran

00:45:48.420 for the federal

00:45:49.340 conservative leadership

00:45:50.200 in 2020

00:45:50.880 and you were

00:45:51.920 in fact

00:45:52.420 in the period

00:45:53.020 of the campaign

00:45:53.660 you were allowed in

00:45:55.140 you were raising money

00:45:56.200 faster than Aaron O'Toole

00:45:57.420 and Peter McKay

00:45:58.320 and then they got rid of you

00:45:59.840 you won a court case

00:46:01.000 against the federal

00:46:01.640 conservatives

00:46:02.200 but because

00:46:03.680 conservative

00:46:04.160 like the parties

00:46:05.240 are private clubs

00:46:06.100 when you're brought

00:46:06.900 back in

00:46:07.280 the judge just

00:46:07.920 basically said

00:46:08.620 you just have to

00:46:09.080 kick him out

00:46:09.460 this way

00:46:09.860 then it's okay

00:46:10.500 no the judge

00:46:11.500 never said that

00:46:12.320 but the judge

00:46:13.840 said he's back

00:46:14.600 on the ballot

00:46:15.280 the judge said

00:46:16.560 he's back

00:46:16.940 on the ballot

00:46:17.540 but then they just

00:46:18.620 kicked me out again

00:46:19.420 in that leadership

00:46:20.060 the next day

00:46:20.780 and at that point

00:46:21.400 in time

00:46:21.640 the membership

00:46:22.100 cutoff

00:46:22.640 had expired

00:46:24.260 and I couldn't

00:46:25.360 sign up any more

00:46:26.040 members

00:46:26.440 I was deeply

00:46:27.260 in debt

00:46:27.680 with legal fees

00:46:28.480 and campaign fees

00:46:29.320 the conservative

00:46:29.820 party was holding

00:46:30.500 all the donor money

00:46:31.340 I couldn't pay

00:46:32.000 the debt

00:46:32.360 any other way

00:46:33.040 because of

00:46:33.360 election finance laws

00:46:34.460 and the judge

00:46:35.600 did say

00:46:36.020 they had to

00:46:36.480 follow the book

00:46:37.240 on the donor money

00:46:38.640 so they kicked me

00:46:39.660 out a second time

00:46:40.520 and then

00:46:41.100 it was too late

00:46:42.000 to make a challenge

00:46:42.740 but I was in third

00:46:43.440 place in that race

00:46:44.340 right behind

00:46:45.500 Aaron O'Toole

00:46:46.980 and Peter McKay

00:46:47.660 and I was climbing

00:46:48.580 really really fast

00:46:49.540 and you mentioned

00:46:50.980 Derek Sloan earlier

00:46:51.800 that was the first

00:46:52.680 really grand appearance

00:46:53.660 of Derek Sloan

00:46:54.300 they got him

00:46:55.160 in that leadership race

00:46:56.880 and he was my

00:46:57.920 stocking horse

00:46:58.620 he was my

00:46:59.420 he was the guy

00:47:01.120 in that race

00:47:01.640 that was teaming up

00:47:02.480 with Aaron O'Toole

00:47:03.320 the Red Tory

00:47:04.080 Aaron O'Toole

00:47:04.780 whose chair

00:47:05.500 was Waleed Solomon

00:47:06.560 Waleed Solomon

00:47:07.540 was the guy

00:47:08.640 behind Patrick Brown

00:47:09.600 when Derek Sloan

00:47:11.440 supposedly made the ballot

00:47:12.880 and raised the $300,000

00:47:14.440 I raised all that money

00:47:16.000 through grassroots donations

00:47:17.200 Waleed Solomon

00:47:18.320 was quick to get on Twitter

00:47:19.400 and congratulate Derek Sloan

00:47:20.700 because there was a deal

00:47:21.860 between the O'Toole camp

00:47:23.140 and the Sloan camp

00:47:24.480 and the deal was

00:47:25.400 Derek

00:47:25.920 running this leadership

00:47:27.280 copy everything

00:47:28.160 Jim Carajalios says

00:47:29.300 so that when

00:47:30.240 Jim Carajalios

00:47:30.960 gets kicked out

00:47:31.600 of the race

00:47:32.140 Derek

00:47:33.360 you make sure

00:47:33.980 as many of his supporters

00:47:34.960 as possible

00:47:35.540 don't leave the conservative party

00:47:37.000 and put Aaron O'Toole

00:47:38.160 down on the ballot

00:47:39.040 in order to beat

00:47:40.220 Peter McKay

00:47:40.820 and that's why

00:47:41.860 Derek didn't say

00:47:43.860 anything critical

00:47:45.680 of Aaron O'Toole

00:47:46.420 and that whole leadership

00:47:47.240 and that's

00:47:48.960 Derek Sloan's

00:47:49.880 claim to fame

00:47:51.080 and then that leadership

00:47:52.060 was over

00:47:52.600 and they got rid

00:47:53.620 of Derek Sloan

00:47:54.260 and I thought

00:47:55.600 that would be

00:47:56.000 the end of Derek Sloan

00:47:56.940 but ever since then

00:47:57.900 he's obsessed with me

00:47:59.220 this guy

00:47:59.900 is obsessed with me

00:48:01.000 and anything I do

00:48:02.080 in politics

00:48:02.620 he seems to want

00:48:03.620 to copy

00:48:04.000 so it started

00:48:04.840 in 2022

00:48:05.680 he went to Alberta

00:48:08.240 to create a fake party

00:48:09.660 and then he came back

00:48:11.040 to Ontario

00:48:11.560 and he was doing nothing

00:48:12.540 and on the last minute

00:48:14.060 he decided to create

00:48:15.380 an alternative

00:48:16.160 to the new blue

00:48:16.880 not an alternative

00:48:17.760 to the PCs

00:48:18.460 an alternative

00:48:19.700 to the new blue

00:48:20.380 and he did it

00:48:21.280 with the operatives

00:48:22.080 behind the back

00:48:22.820 that were working

00:48:23.600 to help the PCs

00:48:24.940 and attack the new blue party

00:48:26.600 behind the scenes

00:48:27.400 and the defamation

00:48:28.340 that came from

00:48:29.520 various sources

00:48:30.480 across Ontario

00:48:31.820 on my character

00:48:32.680 some of it

00:48:34.140 even from pastors

00:48:35.000 across Ontario

00:48:35.820 is despicable

00:48:36.580 because they're cowards

00:48:37.560 because they don't have

00:48:38.140 the courage

00:48:38.980 to say it to my face

00:48:40.140 or publicly

00:48:42.620 and they put up

00:48:44.740 a challenge

00:48:45.260 at the last minute

00:48:46.320 and you know

00:48:47.920 in some ways

00:48:48.620 it worked Wyatt

00:48:49.280 because we got

00:48:49.920 127,000 votes

00:48:51.280 in that election

00:48:51.840 in the new blue

00:48:52.340 but Derek was able

00:48:53.660 to run like

00:48:54.320 60, 70 candidates

00:48:55.560 and suppress

00:48:57.240 some of our vote

00:48:58.060 because a lot of people

00:48:59.400 thought there was

00:49:00.820 a Randy Hillier party

00:49:01.740 there was a Derek Sloan party

00:49:02.940 and there was the new blue

00:49:03.920 and the vote was split

00:49:05.260 the vote was never split

00:49:06.340 but it kept a lot

00:49:07.320 of people at home

00:49:08.060 and it kept a lot

00:49:09.420 of people from voting

00:49:10.380 new blue

00:49:10.780 now fast forward

00:49:11.720 two years go by

00:49:12.820 Ontario party

00:49:13.800 gets deregistered

00:49:15.060 Rick Nichols

00:49:16.120 the coward

00:49:16.660 ran away

00:49:17.240 he's done with

00:49:17.940 provincial politics

00:49:18.780 after voting

00:49:19.420 in favor of

00:49:19.960 critical race theory

00:49:20.820 Derek Sloan

00:49:21.800 hasn't written an email

00:49:22.720 or done a tweet

00:49:23.600 about Doug Ford

00:49:24.380 in two years

00:49:25.080 and lo and behold

00:49:27.000 as soon as we announced

00:49:29.420 that we're past

00:49:30.140 60 candidates

00:49:31.180 or 70

00:49:31.780 and we're on the way

00:49:32.720 to getting over 100

00:49:33.680 he comes up

00:49:35.260 with Randy Hillier

00:49:36.140 and they say

00:49:37.600 they're starting

00:49:38.120 another party

00:49:38.740 and Tom Maratzo

00:49:39.800 and the irony

00:49:40.860 of the whole thing

00:49:41.500 is Randy's not running

00:49:43.380 in the election

00:49:44.040 Tom Maratzo's not running

00:49:45.780 so they just went

00:49:46.620 and signed up

00:49:47.260 30 candidates

00:49:48.100 I think they've got

00:49:48.760 30 candidates

00:49:49.460 on the ballot

00:49:50.040 it was like 44

00:49:51.280 or something

00:49:51.900 but

00:49:52.220 yeah

00:49:52.740 no I think

00:49:53.920 it was low 40s

00:49:54.800 but

00:49:55.060 I think I saw

00:49:56.920 the official thing

00:49:57.600 it's like 44

00:49:58.280 candidates

00:49:58.800 and only about

00:50:00.260 a dozen of them

00:50:01.260 only about a dozen

00:50:02.500 of them

00:50:02.820 are actually

00:50:03.460 doing anything

00:50:04.460 the rest of them

00:50:05.180 are just there

00:50:05.660 to fill the paper

00:50:06.460 and at the last

00:50:08.700 second again

00:50:09.280 the same thing

00:50:10.320 just to kind of

00:50:11.580 give the impression

00:50:12.380 that we're not

00:50:13.100 working with anyone

00:50:14.080 look

00:50:15.480 this time around

00:50:16.980 they're a non-factor

00:50:18.040 they don't work

00:50:19.480 very hard

00:50:19.960 they're lazy

00:50:20.600 and that's what

00:50:21.560 you get

00:50:21.900 when you get

00:50:22.280 counterfeits

00:50:22.880 when you get

00:50:23.300 a guy

00:50:23.760 whose entire

00:50:24.420 purpose in politics

00:50:25.420 is to copy

00:50:26.280 and be my

00:50:28.600 stocking horse

00:50:29.480 and who's obsessed

00:50:30.860 like he's in love

00:50:31.700 with me

00:50:32.080 this guy is in love

00:50:33.220 with me

00:50:33.620 and it's disturbing

00:50:34.980 me that I have

00:50:36.140 this guy

00:50:36.660 who won't leave

00:50:37.440 me alone

00:50:37.860 but that's his job

00:50:39.400 right

00:50:39.820 like my job

00:50:40.620 Wyatt

00:50:40.940 is I'm a lawyer

00:50:42.220 and I have clients

00:50:43.220 right

00:50:43.580 I go to court

00:50:44.360 that's how I feed

00:50:45.600 my family

00:50:46.200 and the new blue

00:50:47.560 is not my primary job

00:50:49.680 right

00:50:50.120 because I have to

00:50:51.140 feed my family

00:50:51.680 my wife's not an MPP

00:50:52.760 Derek Sloan

00:50:53.520 doesn't have a job

00:50:54.260 so how does he

00:50:55.720 feed his family

00:50:56.300 how does this guy

00:50:56.820 feed his family

00:50:57.340 his number one job

00:50:58.760 is stalking me

00:51:00.180 in politics

00:51:00.860 and making sure

00:51:02.340 that the new blue party

00:51:03.340 doesn't get ahead

00:51:04.360 and he's back at it

00:51:06.520 and he fools some people

00:51:07.640 it's unfortunate

00:51:08.340 because he has some

00:51:09.560 wicked pastors

00:51:11.140 one of them

00:51:13.320 there was one

00:51:14.720 his campaign manager

00:51:15.600 of the Ontario party

00:51:16.320 in the last election

00:51:16.980 was taking kickbacks

00:51:18.140 was out there

00:51:19.420 trying to get

00:51:20.200 young students

00:51:21.100 that were working

00:51:21.760 on campaigns

00:51:22.460 to give him kickbacks

00:51:23.500 to do web work

00:51:24.440 and other type of

00:51:25.240 creative work

00:51:26.360 for candidates

00:51:26.960 and they were out

00:51:28.220 ripping people off

00:51:29.100 but unfortunately

00:51:29.880 because he has some

00:51:31.000 wicked pastors

00:51:32.300 and shady pastors

00:51:33.580 in the back

00:51:34.080 supporting him

00:51:34.840 they're able to get

00:51:36.500 some people to run

00:51:37.340 for them

00:51:37.680 and it's sad

00:51:38.360 because eventually

00:51:39.280 those people wake up

00:51:40.560 and they realize

00:51:41.280 what's going on

00:51:42.040 and they're going

00:51:42.840 to feel bad about it

00:51:43.700 but you know

00:51:44.100 I've warned people enough

00:51:45.260 and I've taken a lot

00:51:46.200 of abuse for it

00:51:46.980 so if people want

00:51:47.560 to keep doing that

00:51:48.240 Wyatt I can't

00:51:48.900 I can't stop them

00:51:49.660 yeah and I just want

00:51:50.740 to talk about it

00:51:51.420 a little bit

00:51:51.920 just not to rehash

00:51:53.340 it too much

00:51:53.880 but there's so many

00:51:54.540 people who will say

00:51:55.340 well what about

00:51:56.500 this option

00:51:57.120 and it's because

00:51:57.760 they maybe weren't

00:51:58.620 paying attention

00:51:59.180 in 2022

00:51:59.900 or Derek did

00:52:00.980 a good enough job

00:52:01.940 in the Ontario party

00:52:03.360 in 22

00:52:03.800 to seem real

00:52:04.780 the hilarious thing too

00:52:06.140 is Randy Hillier

00:52:07.120 in 22

00:52:08.080 said there's no point

00:52:09.060 in voting

00:52:09.440 what's even

00:52:10.100 the purpose

00:52:10.760 of voting

00:52:11.320 and why is he now

00:52:12.620 back two years later

00:52:13.700 with a lesser form

00:52:15.280 of the fake party

00:52:16.340 now he's on board

00:52:17.880 but he also won't run

00:52:19.100 although

00:52:19.600 and it's so

00:52:20.780 yeah so Randy

00:52:21.580 is the ultimate

00:52:22.320 like can't make up

00:52:23.180 his mind

00:52:23.560 he's never been

00:52:24.500 consistent on an issue

00:52:26.140 his claim to fame

00:52:27.940 was he came up

00:52:28.600 through the landowners

00:52:29.500 and the landowners

00:52:31.080 helped him become

00:52:32.080 an MPP

00:52:32.620 and then he turned

00:52:33.240 his back

00:52:33.660 on the landowners

00:52:34.440 association

00:52:35.180 totally knifed

00:52:36.560 them in the back

00:52:37.260 he ditched them

00:52:38.160 and then he became

00:52:39.220 a famous red Tory

00:52:40.120 in the nice suits

00:52:40.980 the expensive suits

00:52:41.940 endorsing Christine Elliott

00:52:43.140 photo

00:52:43.580 photo opportunities

00:52:44.720 with Christine Elliott

00:52:45.600 he never got kicked

00:52:46.680 out of the PC caucus

00:52:47.760 for taking a principled

00:52:49.300 position on policy

00:52:50.360 he didn't vote against

00:52:51.960 he skipped the vote

00:52:52.980 on the initial

00:52:53.720 COVID lockdown bill

00:52:54.800 he got kicked out

00:52:56.000 because he butted heads

00:52:57.160 with Dean French

00:52:57.960 because both Randy Hillier

00:52:59.120 and Dean French

00:52:59.800 are stubborn mules

00:53:01.320 that are egomaniacs

00:53:03.380 and it's just about them

00:53:04.460 and they butted heads

00:53:05.620 and Dean French

00:53:06.220 didn't want him around

00:53:07.020 but there wasn't

00:53:07.640 over principle

00:53:08.280 on policy

00:53:09.120 it was nothing

00:53:10.800 like that

00:53:11.380 and you're right

00:53:12.780 Randy Hillier

00:53:13.420 went on this campaign

00:53:14.380 against COVID

00:53:15.080 and then he disappeared

00:53:16.100 he said he was starting

00:53:17.740 a political party

00:53:18.720 in 2021

00:53:19.620 he never got

00:53:21.100 the party registered

00:53:21.900 it's not that hard

00:53:22.760 it takes a thousand

00:53:23.580 signatures

00:53:24.200 and then he

00:53:26.040 and you're right

00:53:26.820 he went on this

00:53:27.480 like months

00:53:28.160 and months

00:53:28.640 long campaign

00:53:29.440 you can't go

00:53:30.520 with political parties

00:53:31.460 they're all the same

00:53:32.240 it's a waste of time

00:53:33.700 to start a political party

00:53:35.300 you can't have

00:53:36.020 political party

00:53:36.740 they all serve themselves

00:53:37.800 I don't know

00:53:38.400 all this nonsense

00:53:39.180 and now all of a sudden

00:53:40.440 it's okay to have

00:53:41.000 a political party

00:53:41.620 at the last second

00:53:42.400 again

00:53:42.600 you're absolutely right

00:53:43.300 so what's consistent

00:53:44.660 about Randy's

00:53:45.320 is a fraud

00:53:45.760 right

00:53:46.300 that's the thing

00:53:47.000 but let's just

00:53:48.020 cut to the chase

00:53:48.740 it doesn't matter

00:53:50.080 whether you believe me

00:53:51.000 about Derek and Randy

00:53:51.880 or not

00:53:52.360 I mean I have

00:53:53.080 the proofs all laid out

00:53:54.260 on youblondterra.com

00:53:55.340 in this election

00:53:56.220 they're running

00:53:57.560 12

00:53:58.620 13 real candidates

00:54:00.160 they're running

00:54:01.280 40 total

00:54:02.960 30 are paper candidates

00:54:04.540 we're running

00:54:05.120 108 candidates

00:54:06.120 across Ontario

00:54:07.120 in the 108

00:54:08.960 strongest ridings

00:54:09.880 for the new blue

00:54:10.460 so a vote

00:54:11.720 for the Ontario party

00:54:12.660 is a total wasted vote

00:54:14.380 because after this election

00:54:15.920 they might get deregistered again

00:54:17.440 they're never going to talk

00:54:18.520 about Doug Ford

00:54:19.320 Derek Sloan

00:54:20.520 is never going to

00:54:21.240 hold Doug Ford's feet

00:54:22.280 to the fire

00:54:22.860 Tom Aratso

00:54:23.780 is going to go on

00:54:24.400 another European vacation

00:54:25.740 and we're not going to see him

00:54:26.900 and

00:54:28.360 but it's a wasted vote

00:54:30.280 but a vote for the new blue

00:54:31.460 strengthens the new blue party

00:54:32.860 grows it

00:54:34.120 makes it a bigger force

00:54:35.460 so we can keep advocating

00:54:37.020 and holding the PC's feet

00:54:38.620 to the fire

00:54:39.160 the Liberals

00:54:39.720 and the NDP

00:54:40.180 in between elections

00:54:41.700 and during election campaigns

00:54:43.820 yeah

00:54:44.300 well anyways

00:54:45.420 well thanks for coming on

00:54:46.400 to the show

00:54:46.900 Jim

00:54:47.380 I definitely will want you on

00:54:48.960 before this election wraps up

00:54:50.600 because you know

00:54:51.260 it's absolutely snowed in

00:54:53.160 out there

00:54:53.500 so the best thing to do

00:54:54.640 is more media

00:54:55.580 since Doug Ford

00:54:57.160 strategically wants the checks

00:54:58.420 to go out

00:54:58.960 and then have the election

00:54:59.820 right when people

00:55:00.500 can't even hit doors

00:55:01.480 as effectively

00:55:02.100 but thanks for coming on

00:55:04.100 thanks for giving people

00:55:05.080 a actual conservative option

00:55:06.720 on the ballot

00:55:07.360 and yeah

00:55:08.660 I'll definitely see you next time

00:55:10.300 make sure everyone

00:55:11.360 go check out

00:55:11.900 the new blue party of Ontario

00:55:13.240 help out your local candidate

00:55:15.160 do whatever you can

00:55:16.200 and

00:55:17.140 I'll see you guys

00:55:18.180 all next time

00:55:18.920 thanks Wyatt

The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - February 17, 2025

Doug Ford abandoned Conservative voters in Ontario (ft. Jim Karahalios - New Blue Party)

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