The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - Doug Ford is Justin Trudeau's Biggest Provincial Ally (ft. Belinda Karahalios)

00:00:00.360 Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the Wyatt Claypool Show.

00:00:04.760 Hopefully, at this point, you see me as kind of a straight shooter.

00:00:08.680 I don't like Justin Trudeau as much as the next guy.

00:00:11.840 But just because I don't like Justin Trudeau doesn't mean I like every single person

00:00:16.220 who puts the conservative label in their party name.

00:00:20.080 Doug Ford is the primary example I always use for a conservative that's not actually conservative.

00:00:26.900 I'm not somebody who looks for complete purity in politics,

00:00:30.520 but I'm someone who wants just the basic level of conservatism in order for me to vote for you.

00:00:37.520 Like Erin O'Toole, Doug Ford has just never met that bar for me at all.

00:00:42.280 And that's why I have on my guest today, Belinda Karajalios,

00:00:46.040 the former MPP from the riding of Cambridge, to talk about what's going on in Ontario.

00:00:51.620 Her and her husband, Jim, have been running the New Blue Party of Ontario for a couple of years now.

00:00:56.260 And in my opinion, it's one of the small parties that's an actual up-and-comer,

00:01:00.820 not simply a party based around the fact that the Doug Ford PCs aren't doing it well enough.

00:01:06.400 They aren't, but the New Blue Party is an actual alternative.

00:01:09.800 So thanks for coming on the show today, Belinda.

00:01:12.220 Thank you so much for having me, Wyatt. It's such a pleasure.

00:01:14.980 Absolutely. It's been a while.

00:01:16.640 People who used to watch the National Telegraph back when we just did live stream shows

00:01:22.000 to supplement the writing we did online might remember you guys.

00:01:27.560 But, you know, since Bill C-18 came out, thank you, Justin Trudeau.

00:01:31.620 And I can no longer, you know, write articles and distribute them on Facebook.

00:01:35.500 I have been forced to come to YouTube.

00:01:38.340 In a certain sense, I actually do owe it to Justin Trudeau,

00:01:40.680 or I would still be a nervous wreck writing articles and not talking and interacting with people.

00:01:45.720 But, yeah, I wanted to have you on today because there's just – I see constant news stories every week,

00:01:52.280 every month, where I'm like, oh, my goodness, what are the Ontario PCs doing?

00:01:56.400 They could be popular tomorrow if they just started being conservative.

00:02:00.580 And every single week, I just see more taxes, like more taxes, higher spending, more subsidies,

00:02:07.400 and they're literally becoming the biggest asset of Justin Trudeau in the country.

00:02:12.500 Even David Eby's BCNDP government in British Columbia goes after Justin Trudeau.

00:02:19.340 They'll attack Justin Trudeau.

00:02:21.560 Doug Ford might be Justin Trudeau's best friend at this point.

00:02:24.460 I don't get it.

00:02:25.060 But maybe from your guys' perspective, you can kind of lay out a bit of a timeline

00:02:29.520 in kind of the state of the province right now in Ontario.

00:02:33.180 Well, Doug Ford really is Justin Trudeau's best friend, him and Chrystia Freeland.

00:02:38.320 And we have, you know, video proof of that that's shown on the media.

00:02:43.320 We share it on our socials where he talks about he can pick up his phone any time of the night

00:02:49.140 and call Chrystia Freeland.

00:02:51.040 And it makes sense because all their policies are identical.

00:02:55.920 I mean, if you want to compare even the provincial liberals to the Ontario PC party,

00:03:01.440 you know, we look at outspending, we talk about debt.

00:03:06.760 And the PCs have outspent the Wynn McGinty liberals, outspent them in a shorter amount of time.

00:03:13.620 So it was $142 billion over 10 years for the liberals.

00:03:19.880 And the Doug Ford PCs, it was $99, or rather it is $99.1 billion since, as of March 2024.

00:03:29.400 So that, what, six years in power.

00:03:32.860 This is what they've done. 0.98

00:03:34.540 Like, it's just, it's ridiculous. 0.96

00:03:36.800 And it's a joke. 0.96

00:03:38.180 Like, they claim to be conservative.

00:03:39.780 Nothing that they have done, nothing they have done is conservative.

00:03:43.460 And, you know, I think the thing that bothers, I don't want to say bothers me the most,

00:03:48.960 but is just so telling is that we know that an early election is coming.

00:03:53.720 Like, we know that it's coming.

00:03:55.160 There's, he's not hiding it anymore.

00:03:57.260 And it's when he tries to be conservative.

00:03:59.700 So, you know, he was pro-injection sites.

00:04:02.340 No, we got to have the drug injection sites.

00:04:04.620 And now he's trying to backpedal just a little bit on that.

00:04:07.620 Because he wants to have these little conservative soundbites,

00:04:10.880 this little conservative messaging, to try to pull those people back in.

00:04:14.860 But actions speak louder than words.

00:04:17.060 And like I said, we look at the staggering debt that we have in our province.

00:04:20.240 We look at what's happening in the schools.

00:04:22.380 We look at the subsidies.

00:04:24.740 I mean, if you didn't know that we had conservatives in power in the province,

00:04:30.160 you would swear that we were still under liberal rule.

00:04:34.300 Justin Trudeau literally partnered with Doug Ford for both the EV battery,

00:04:38.380 the EV factory for Honda, as well as the battery plant for,

00:04:42.620 I think it was actually some German company,

00:04:44.640 that were just, it's just subsidy politics.

00:04:48.020 This is where the Ford PCs,

00:04:50.420 there's a few other issues that really bother me,

00:04:52.320 but where they just stop being conservative at all.

00:04:55.000 It is when they're called progressive conservatives,

00:04:57.220 they should really just rename themselves the progressive party.

00:04:59.920 Because it's just what the liberals are.

00:05:02.700 It's basically what the NDP is.

00:05:04.480 Other than that, they kind of give a little bit of some lip service

00:05:08.420 towards conservative ideals once in a while.

00:05:11.040 They basically will, every once in a while,

00:05:13.520 he'll kind of try and emulate his much more conservative brother, Rob Ford,

00:05:16.960 and go after the bike lanes and go after, you know, avocado toast eaters.

00:05:21.980 But he'll pass the same policies.

00:05:24.020 He got in on a message of basically getting rid of woke social policies, 0.72

00:05:31.360 woke social curriculum from our schools in Ontario.

00:05:34.760 And he's now Mr. Soji123 in Ontario.

00:05:38.620 He's a big fan of it.

00:05:40.800 We keep seeing, and this is sometimes,

00:05:42.960 I find it annoying with conservative media in Canada,

00:05:46.820 that you'll hear all these crazy woke things are happening

00:05:49.980 in Ontario schools, in Ontario universities.

00:05:53.400 And then at no point is it brought up that,

00:05:56.480 isn't Doug Ford the premier of this province?

00:05:58.360 Wasn't Stephen Lecce the guy who, when he was brought in

00:06:01.960 as the education minister originally,

00:06:03.760 that he was going to tear down all this stuff

00:06:05.880 and remove it from this classroom?

00:06:07.400 It's like, no, not at all.

00:06:08.960 And with, and all, the way that he's basically tried to buoy his support,

00:06:12.560 despite being deeply personally unpopular,

00:06:15.360 is just targeted subsidies to specific regions

00:06:18.680 and to specific industries,

00:06:20.400 which is how Kathleen Wynne and Dalton McGinty's liberals

00:06:24.340 always used to get back in.

00:06:25.660 They weren't doing a good job, but in certain ridings,

00:06:28.780 they had provided some sort of service

00:06:31.180 or some sort of industry subsidy

00:06:33.360 that kept a bunch of people employed

00:06:35.400 with frankly, fake jobs.

00:06:37.400 They're fake jobs, which will eventually fall away anyways.

00:06:40.240 Yeah. It's a distraction tactic, right?

00:06:42.480 That's what I think.

00:06:43.480 It's a distraction tactic.

00:06:44.740 Because if we're doing, you know, subsidies here

00:06:47.220 and we're going to bring in so many jobs.

00:06:49.060 In Aurora, they pulled in,

00:06:51.640 it was an Amazon warehouse or some massive warehouse,

00:06:54.360 and it might not be Amazon.

00:06:56.480 And they said it would attract something like 3,000 jobs.

00:06:59.560 I think they ended up hiring a couple hundred people.

00:07:02.700 So, but again, a distraction,

00:07:04.380 like going back to the schools that you mentioned,

00:07:07.020 you know, they talked a big game.

00:07:08.540 Yeah, we're going to get rid of Kathleen Wynne's sex agenda. 0.99

00:07:11.740 We're going to get rid of all the woke stuff in the schools. 1.00

00:07:15.240 Not only did it not happen,

00:07:16.500 but we have proof Bill 67 when it was tabled

00:07:19.200 back when I was an MPP.

00:07:23.440 Laura Malindo, the NDP MPP at the time

00:07:25.720 for Kitchener Centre,

00:07:26.620 tabled this bill about, you know,

00:07:28.620 fining children for subconscious racism.

00:07:31.620 And every single PC MPP voted in favor of this bill.

00:07:37.140 Every single one.

00:07:38.700 What's his face?

00:07:40.820 Sloan.

00:07:41.540 Sloan with his Ontario party,

00:07:43.180 which has disappeared.

00:07:46.020 Even his guy voted in favor of this.

00:07:47.540 I forget which guy,

00:07:48.880 who was his guy?

00:07:50.780 Rick Nichols.

00:07:51.800 Yeah, Rick Nichols was his guy.

00:07:53.220 And then they were like,

00:07:53.840 oh, well, we didn't read the bill.

00:07:55.120 I'm like, then you shouldn't be

00:07:56.440 in the provincial parliament

00:07:57.620 if you can't read the bill.

00:07:58.640 Shame on him

00:07:59.260 because he was an MPP for many, many years.

00:08:02.380 And, you know,

00:08:03.100 the least you can do is read the legislation.

00:08:04.940 And it was,

00:08:05.600 the bill was maybe seven pages long.

00:08:07.580 Like just, it was a joke.

00:08:08.560 It was something you could have read

00:08:09.420 with your morning coffee.

00:08:10.640 You know what I mean?

00:08:11.180 And it was to not,

00:08:13.360 either he read it

00:08:14.120 and didn't understand it,

00:08:15.260 which, you know, come on,

00:08:17.000 or you just didn't bother reading it.

00:08:18.940 But if that's the case,

00:08:20.220 then don't vote.

00:08:21.500 Like people,

00:08:22.260 a lot of these MPPs,

00:08:23.440 either they don't care

00:08:24.400 or they don't realize

00:08:25.100 how much is at stake.

00:08:27.080 You know,

00:08:27.300 when you're voting

00:08:27.940 for something like this,

00:08:28.680 something that can directly

00:08:29.720 affect our children,

00:08:31.020 something that is telling them

00:08:32.320 to be victims

00:08:33.680 and that,

00:08:34.480 oh, you better not think

00:08:35.180 a certain way

00:08:35.740 because that's, 1.00

00:08:36.820 you're a racist. 0.99

00:08:37.800 It's just, 1.00

00:08:38.880 it's ridiculous. 0.90

00:08:39.620 And so, you know, 0.95

00:08:41.000 like I said,

00:08:41.640 I actually speak louder than words.

00:08:43.440 Doug Ford was one of the politicians

00:08:44.560 who attacked parents

00:08:45.900 protesting against gender theory.

00:08:47.540 He's the same guy

00:08:48.540 who will then go after

00:08:50.140 woke cultural stuff

00:08:51.360 every time there's

00:08:52.180 a mini fake controversy

00:08:54.080 within the media

00:08:54.880 between himself

00:08:56.140 and, you know,

00:08:57.160 some random,

00:08:58.360 like,

00:08:58.860 far left host

00:09:00.060 or whatever.

00:09:00.920 The thing is that

00:09:01.800 it honestly,

00:09:02.560 a lot,

00:09:02.940 it's almost like

00:09:03.380 he's also an ally

00:09:04.620 of the legacy media.

00:09:05.760 The legacy media

00:09:06.520 gets in fake fights

00:09:07.580 with Doug Ford

00:09:08.180 to still think

00:09:08.880 like he's some

00:09:09.560 conservative battle axe

00:09:10.820 when he's just not

00:09:11.920 and he actually makes

00:09:12.920 a bad name

00:09:13.460 for conservatism

00:09:14.260 because what he ends up doing

00:09:15.360 whenever he does do something

00:09:16.520 that's seemingly conservative

00:09:17.740 like opening up

00:09:18.740 the green belt,

00:09:19.420 he's not actually

00:09:20.280 opening up the green belt

00:09:21.360 so that people can actually

00:09:22.600 build homes to live in.

00:09:24.400 It's so his friend

00:09:25.280 can have like

00:09:26.100 this one square kilometer

00:09:27.480 for like a condo project

00:09:28.920 and no one else

00:09:29.560 gets anything

00:09:30.180 and also the green belt

00:09:31.240 is going to expand

00:09:31.900 into this area

00:09:32.680 blocking other people

00:09:33.840 from being able to build.

00:09:34.920 It's like,

00:09:37.140 oh,

00:09:37.300 well,

00:09:37.400 he's privatizing healthcare.

00:09:38.860 He's not actually

00:09:39.460 privatizing healthcare.

00:09:40.440 He's not giving people

00:09:41.140 more choice.

00:09:42.060 He is giving a friends firm

00:09:43.820 or a PC party allies firm

00:09:46.060 the ability to like

00:09:47.680 basically have contracted

00:09:49.160 out work

00:09:49.700 from the public system.

00:09:51.660 So the most recent example

00:09:52.980 like of friends benefiting

00:09:55.020 and I'm careful to say that,

00:09:57.200 right?

00:09:57.300 I want to be very careful

00:09:58.020 saying that

00:09:58.520 but it's the bike lanes.

00:09:59.880 You mentioned the bike lanes

00:10:00.720 just a few minutes ago

00:10:01.900 and I don't remember

00:10:04.160 which news outlet

00:10:04.880 reported on it

00:10:06.020 so forgive me there.

00:10:07.820 However,

00:10:08.280 it was reported

00:10:08.900 that there was a group

00:10:11.720 just last year

00:10:12.660 who were against

00:10:13.720 the bike lanes

00:10:14.340 and they met with MPP

00:10:15.400 Christine Hogarth

00:10:16.680 Etobica Lakeshore

00:10:17.740 about it

00:10:19.240 and this group

00:10:20.140 just happens

00:10:20.700 to be made up of

00:10:21.620 one former PC candidate

00:10:23.360 and other donors

00:10:25.200 to the PC party

00:10:26.100 and now,

00:10:27.980 a year later

00:10:28.600 after this meeting

00:10:29.500 with MPP Hogarth,

00:10:31.140 the bike lanes

00:10:32.680 are being discussed

00:10:33.240 about being removed.

00:10:33.920 I mean,

00:10:34.080 it's in a bill.

00:10:35.120 The bill is

00:10:35.700 at committee right now

00:10:37.760 if not through committee

00:10:38.940 and they sped up.

00:10:41.340 There was hardly

00:10:41.740 any debate

00:10:42.300 on this particular bill

00:10:43.360 or any committee time

00:10:45.680 provided

00:10:46.040 because the PC party

00:10:47.680 as they often do

00:10:49.240 put through a motion

00:10:50.520 to limit the amount

00:10:52.300 of debate

00:10:52.640 that is allowed

00:10:53.180 on these bills

00:10:53.760 and you ought to

00:10:54.260 ask yourself why.

00:10:55.480 Like why?

00:10:56.280 Why do they not want

00:10:57.440 the MPPs to do their job

00:10:58.660 and flush out

00:10:59.860 the bills

00:11:00.640 and discuss them

00:11:01.800 and talk about

00:11:02.320 the pros and the cons

00:11:03.220 and get the debate going?

00:11:05.500 And that's the thing.

00:11:06.440 Even if you're,

00:11:07.060 I don't really reward people

00:11:09.580 for sometimes

00:11:10.540 in some ways

00:11:11.860 doing the right thing

00:11:12.920 if it's for the wrong reasons

00:11:14.640 because what it's been endorsing

00:11:16.100 in Ontario

00:11:16.660 is old style

00:11:19.200 like 1880s New York City

00:11:21.020 type graft politics

00:11:22.540 or spoil system politics

00:11:24.160 where unless you know

00:11:25.580 somebody in the government

00:11:26.640 you cannot get anything done

00:11:28.260 and can even some

00:11:29.400 of that stuff

00:11:29.880 be somewhat good?

00:11:31.700 Sure,

00:11:32.300 but do you think

00:11:33.060 that this is going

00:11:33.800 to be good

00:11:34.420 for conservatism

00:11:35.420 or the province

00:11:36.180 in the long run

00:11:36.980 especially when the macro stuff

00:11:38.720 is not being done right?

00:11:40.320 I was actually blown away

00:11:41.900 when I figured,

00:11:43.020 when I found out today

00:11:44.380 just how high the taxes

00:11:45.880 were in Ontario

00:11:46.940 because you doing

00:11:48.220 your basic research

00:11:49.060 you're like well

00:11:49.560 the top marginal tax brackets

00:11:51.400 are only up to 13%

00:11:53.180 for income taxes

00:11:54.020 in Ontario

00:11:54.520 and then you realize

00:11:55.620 that they surcharge you

00:11:56.760 20%

00:11:57.720 for all taxes

00:11:59.340 that you pay

00:12:00.220 above like $5,200

00:12:02.020 and then it jumps

00:12:03.440 to $3,500

00:12:04.200 at like $7,200

00:12:05.360 so everyone's paying

00:12:06.620 way more taxes

00:12:07.660 than the actual brackets

00:12:08.920 indicate

00:12:09.420 and has Doug Ford

00:12:10.620 taken care of any of this?

00:12:11.920 Like not at all

00:12:12.900 not at all

00:12:13.980 and the thing is

00:12:15.120 that this is where

00:12:15.840 there actually does need

00:12:17.080 to be an alternative

00:12:17.860 while I do

00:12:18.960 I'll keep

00:12:19.400 well I do want to keep

00:12:20.140 talking a little bit

00:12:20.920 about the PC party

00:12:21.940 but I also do just

00:12:23.000 quickly want to plug 0.50

00:12:23.760 you guys

00:12:24.200 I want to talk

00:12:25.740 about the policy

00:12:27.000 declaration

00:12:27.460 that your guys'

00:12:28.300 party has released

00:12:28.880 which is very

00:12:29.720 uncommon for small

00:12:31.080 parties to do

00:12:31.700 in the sense

00:12:32.520 that a lot of small

00:12:33.060 parties

00:12:33.420 it's a few people

00:12:34.060 who don't like

00:12:34.560 the way the current

00:12:35.120 guys are doing it

00:12:35.760 but not well organized

00:12:37.380 enough to actually

00:12:38.240 put something together

00:12:39.320 that voters can have

00:12:40.640 confidence in

00:12:41.360 could get into

00:12:42.060 government and govern

00:12:43.100 so I want to get to that

00:12:44.980 but I do just want

00:12:45.760 to remind people

00:12:46.380 if you live in Ontario

00:12:47.340 I'm going to put a link

00:12:48.300 down both in the

00:12:49.480 description of this video

00:12:50.780 as well as pinned

00:12:51.500 at the top of the comments

00:12:52.380 if you live in Ontario

00:12:53.580 please get a new

00:12:55.220 blue party membership

00:12:56.200 because even if you

00:12:57.660 think that the

00:12:58.540 Liberals or the NDP

00:12:59.260 could be worse

00:12:59.940 than the PCs

00:13:00.400 the only way you're

00:13:01.660 going to make the PCs

00:13:02.380 do anything better

00:13:04.080 is if there is a threat

00:13:05.540 to their power

00:13:06.540 from the right

00:13:07.260 because they keep

00:13:08.340 shifting more and more

00:13:09.200 left because the only

00:13:09.900 threats are to the left

00:13:11.040 and in their minds

00:13:12.900 if they move more left

00:13:13.840 they box out the

00:13:14.700 Liberals and the NDP

00:13:15.640 so that means we're all

00:13:17.640 getting worse policy

00:13:18.620 just to keep Doug Ford

00:13:19.900 in office longer

00:13:20.880 which once they get

00:13:22.240 thrown out

00:13:22.720 then you're going to

00:13:23.280 have voters make

00:13:23.900 the wrong conclusion

00:13:24.780 that well they were

00:13:26.580 conservative so we need

00:13:27.480 somebody to the left

00:13:28.560 of even them to get

00:13:30.060 this job done

00:13:30.660 so go and check that

00:13:31.940 stuff out guys

00:13:32.640 but Belinda maybe you

00:13:33.720 can sort of ramp up

00:13:34.840 on what the whole

00:13:35.640 policy declaration is

00:13:37.380 and how you guys came

00:13:38.140 about creating that

00:13:39.380 yes thank you

00:13:40.340 it's actually really

00:13:41.140 exciting so we

00:13:42.620 promised our members

00:13:43.820 and supporters from

00:13:44.560 the very beginning

00:13:45.160 that we would take

00:13:46.640 this seriously

00:13:47.500 this endeavor of running

00:13:49.300 a political party in

00:13:50.800 Ontario and it's a lot

00:13:53.480 of work it's been

00:13:54.480 hundreds of hundreds

00:13:55.200 of hours to keep up

00:13:56.560 with the obligations

00:13:57.840 to elections Ontario

00:13:59.760 when it comes to

00:14:00.340 finances and all of

00:14:03.260 the I don't want to

00:14:04.240 call it red tape but

00:14:04.840 all the things that are

00:14:05.360 required of a political

00:14:06.380 party in order to

00:14:07.700 continue running things

00:14:09.180 that the Ontario party

00:14:10.020 couldn't do and did not

00:14:11.000 do which is why they

00:14:12.300 eventually just kind of

00:14:13.680 crumbled

00:14:13.980 give people some

00:14:15.620 background too on this

00:14:16.860 just because I actually

00:14:17.680 was there at the

00:14:18.540 creation or recreation

00:14:19.860 of the Ontario party

00:14:20.860 so if people don't

00:14:21.820 remember Derek Sloan

00:14:22.880 ran for the 2020

00:14:23.760 leadership against

00:14:25.500 O'Toole Lewis and

00:14:26.760 McKay he was then

00:14:27.920 kicked out by O'Toole

00:14:28.840 I disagree with that 0.97

00:14:30.040 it was for silly 0.96

00:14:30.740 reasons ridiculous 0.92

00:14:31.740 but then after not

00:14:33.460 creating the federal

00:14:34.200 party he was going to

00:14:35.000 create called the

00:14:35.440 true north party

00:14:36.200 he collected like

00:14:37.220 $150,000 into Sloan

00:14:38.980 PAC to do that

00:14:39.680 never did that

00:14:40.480 went over to Ontario

00:14:41.720 and then inherited the

00:14:42.920 Ontario party

00:14:43.560 leadership and there

00:14:45.080 was this big drama

00:14:45.960 going on about how

00:14:46.840 why won't the new

00:14:47.580 blue party and the

00:14:48.260 Ontario party combine

00:14:49.240 I know Sloan's team

00:14:50.980 they literally told me

00:14:52.260 behind the scenes that

00:14:53.360 they were not actually

00:14:54.380 ever going to make a

00:14:55.500 deal with the new

00:14:56.040 blue party so if

00:14:57.440 anyone in the comments

00:14:58.280 is going to wonder

00:14:58.940 about well why don't

00:14:59.860 they combine and

00:15:00.620 maybe they can take

00:15:01.220 on the PCs it's not

00:15:02.260 going to happen and

00:15:03.260 they already wrecked

00:15:03.940 themselves

00:15:04.260 funded by the PCs

00:15:05.220 the whole point of

00:15:06.040 them is to distract

00:15:06.900 like they just want to

00:15:07.860 be a distraction to

00:15:09.180 ensure that we don't

00:15:11.440 get as much support

00:15:12.160 as we can

00:15:13.060 but you know going

00:15:15.280 back to the policy

00:15:16.240 declaration so I

00:15:18.660 printed up a copy

00:15:19.380 here it's available

00:15:21.180 online as well but

00:15:22.640 we so all of our

00:15:23.980 card carrying members

00:15:24.900 they were able to

00:15:26.220 submit policies at

00:15:28.080 the beginning of this

00:15:28.760 year and sorry from

00:15:30.960 May 21st through to

00:15:32.060 June 17th I should

00:15:33.080 say beginning of the

00:15:33.700 year so they had about

00:15:34.480 a month to submit

00:15:35.660 their policy ideas and

00:15:37.460 then we met in

00:15:38.740 Waterloo for a couple

00:15:41.560 of days and we had a

00:15:43.200 full-out policy meeting

00:15:44.100 and it was great and

00:15:45.160 people went up and

00:15:45.760 they presented their

00:15:46.500 policy ideas and they

00:15:47.460 debated them and it

00:15:49.000 was a very fulsome

00:15:50.160 really great discussion

00:15:51.420 that we had and you

00:15:53.340 know the side effect to

00:15:54.500 that too is that a lot

00:15:55.520 of our members you know

00:15:56.960 we have people from all

00:15:58.000 across the province

00:15:58.780 we're very very fortunate

00:15:59.780 and for them to all

00:16:01.280 connect because it can

00:16:02.580 be very isolating you

00:16:04.420 know when if you're in

00:16:05.980 like Temiskin and

00:16:06.640 Cochrane right like we

00:16:07.960 might have a small group

00:16:08.960 of members there where

00:16:09.700 we have a larger much

00:16:10.720 larger group in

00:16:11.320 Cambridge and for them

00:16:12.460 to be able to connect

00:16:13.240 to other new blue

00:16:13.860 members across province

00:16:15.100 was really really great

00:16:16.960 for everyone but we

00:16:18.820 have a 42 different

00:16:21.820 policies that have been

00:16:23.560 proposed and that are

00:16:24.440 now in our policy

00:16:25.180 declaration and you know

00:16:28.060 coming back to our

00:16:28.700 founding principles we

00:16:29.860 will be guided in our

00:16:30.820 constitutional framework

00:16:32.680 and its policy basis by

00:16:34.140 the following principles

00:16:35.200 so you know a great one

00:16:37.240 for example let me just

00:16:39.100 we have 42 I'll pick up

00:16:40.580 a couple yeah I don't

00:16:41.700 I don't I'm not going to

00:16:42.580 force you to read all

00:16:43.180 through all of them no

00:16:43.840 no no oh gosh no um

00:16:46.280 new blue party supports

00:16:47.260 legislation that bans

00:16:48.440 lobbyist activity in

00:16:49.780 political party elections

00:16:51.100 and other intern internal

00:16:52.540 party votes this is

00:16:54.840 fantastic because I had

00:16:57.040 tabled bill 150 um to

00:16:59.440 create um for internal

00:17:01.640 party elections to create

00:17:02.700 some rules around that

00:17:03.580 because right now it's

00:17:04.180 like the as you did

00:17:05.140 that right away too as

00:17:06.180 soon as the pcs entered

00:17:07.380 yeah you got like your

00:17:08.940 first yeah it was my

00:17:10.920 first private members

00:17:12.220 bill uh they call them

00:17:13.540 pmbs so if I refer to it

00:17:15.060 as that uh excuse the

00:17:16.400 acronym uh but it's you

00:17:18.400 know the internal party

00:17:19.480 elections are the wild wild

00:17:20.900 west and the pcs are

00:17:22.480 notorious uh for having

00:17:24.100 issues with their internal

00:17:25.320 party elections yeah we saw

00:17:26.940 that when Jim ran for

00:17:27.940 party president right like

00:17:29.360 I'm very well aware of

00:17:30.220 that from running in

00:17:30.900 signal hill over here and

00:17:32.200 getting kicked out because

00:17:33.440 they don't want you to

00:17:34.300 win by the way if people

00:17:36.820 don't know this there's a

00:17:38.700 lot of people who declare

00:17:39.840 they're running for leader

00:17:40.840 here and there and it's

00:17:41.800 like most people you can

00:17:42.800 kind of ignore if they're

00:17:43.680 not a big name Jim when he

00:17:45.640 ran for the federal

00:17:46.700 conservative uh leadership

00:17:48.580 in 2020 alongside lewis

00:17:51.240 sloan mckay and o'toole

00:17:52.480 he in the three and a half

00:17:54.680 month or three month period

00:17:55.620 that he was in the race

00:17:56.340 raised money faster than

00:17:58.060 mckay and o'toole did he

00:17:59.820 and that's but he did

00:18:01.360 great and by the way he

00:18:03.200 was also the one you and

00:18:04.880 Jim uh Jim Carajalios

00:18:06.760 Belinda Carajalios started

00:18:08.460 the acts the tax movement

00:18:09.940 that is now basically 50% of

00:18:12.280 everything that pure poly

00:18:13.400 have talks about all the

00:18:14.240 time I'm not that's not a

00:18:15.820 that's not a slag at at pure 0.75

00:18:17.240 poly of good ideas are good

00:18:18.460 ideas but people should

00:18:19.600 always honor where the ideas

00:18:20.800 actually come from because

00:18:22.080 you get so many people who

00:18:23.320 will be like oh well who

00:18:24.680 cares about Jim anymore it's

00:18:25.820 not 2018 well apparently

00:18:27.520 everyone keeps talking about

00:18:28.740 acts the tax even still so

00:18:30.280 it's not exactly just not

00:18:31.700 2018 anymore yeah and so

00:18:33.800 he had Jim has and uh he

00:18:36.000 had and continues to have

00:18:36.960 his finger on the pulse of

00:18:38.340 of conservative minded

00:18:40.120 people in ontario and he

00:18:42.060 knew like a bad idea is a

00:18:43.340 bad idea carbon tax is a

00:18:44.460 horrible idea it makes

00:18:45.520 absolutely no sense and

00:18:47.040 that was a for him to have

00:18:49.180 said that publicly to acts

00:18:50.460 the carbon tax was very

00:18:51.780 unpopular among liberals

00:18:53.520 conservatives everyone right

00:18:55.340 and he went out there and

00:18:57.520 he he preached and he

00:18:59.740 he talked about it and he

00:19:01.100 rallied rallied against it

00:19:02.440 and sure enough it's taken

00:19:04.320 almost well not quite 10

00:19:06.380 years it's taken it's taken

00:19:07.300 a number of years but it's

00:19:08.220 it's picked up steam and

00:19:09.580 now that's all everyone can

00:19:11.300 talk about I'm for goodness

00:19:12.160 sake they're calling it acts

00:19:13.380 the tax right like that's

00:19:15.320 their slogan like it couldn't

00:19:17.200 be any more obvious acts the

00:19:18.620 carbon tax acts the tax and

00:19:20.900 it's the same with the

00:19:22.040 injection sites like back in

00:19:23.680 2018 and when I was running

00:19:25.620 to be the candidate for the

00:19:26.860 PC party and I knew the

00:19:28.760 injection sites the drug

00:19:29.900 injection sites bad idea

00:19:31.380 people don't want them and I

00:19:33.440 joined the PC party at the

00:19:35.260 time thinking that Doug

00:19:36.540 Ford was conservative that

00:19:37.600 he claimed to be we knew

00:19:39.200 really quickly that he was

00:19:40.700 not and I was told to be

00:19:42.700 quiet about that you know

00:19:43.680 oh we you know we're not

00:19:44.580 talking about that they

00:19:45.680 continue to fund them this

00:19:46.840 is a liberal idea a liberal

00:19:48.600 policy that they not only

00:19:50.720 continue to fund but they

00:19:52.360 increased funding and opened

00:19:53.660 up more sites while they

00:19:54.940 were while they have been

00:19:56.040 in power and you know I

00:19:58.740 remember for the 2022

00:19:59.840 general election debating

00:20:01.580 with the other Cambridge

00:20:03.220 candidates and it was

00:20:05.100 through the chamber of

00:20:06.440 commerce the Cambridge

00:20:07.180 chamber of commerce and that

00:20:08.180 came up and I was the only

00:20:09.960 one talking saying like this

00:20:12.360 is not something you need

00:20:13.040 for our community we can use

00:20:14.140 taxpayer money in a better

00:20:15.580 way and all the other

00:20:17.160 parties the greens the NDP

00:20:18.360 the liberal and the PC they

00:20:20.240 all agree no they injection

00:20:21.940 sites save lives just that

00:20:23.760 and that's always a big sign

00:20:25.240 that consultants and

00:20:26.220 lobbyists have taken over

00:20:27.660 your parties when you can't

00:20:29.820 even say something where you

00:20:31.320 even without having to

00:20:32.540 someone having to show you

00:20:33.360 numbers you know a room of

00:20:35.340 people 75% of people at least

00:20:38.620 in the room are going to be

00:20:40.520 like wait oh my goodness how

00:20:41.820 much money are we giving to

00:20:42.720 injection sites wait you guys

00:20:44.380 know this is not working out

00:20:45.660 and you're still standing

00:20:46.760 beside it but but maybe this is

00:20:48.500 because I actually derailed

00:20:49.880 you a bit but bring up

00:20:51.160 consultants and lobbyists

00:20:52.220 maybe we should go back to

00:20:53.320 your bill that you tabled in

00:20:55.140 2018 in order to crack down

00:20:57.800 on lobbyists and consultants

00:20:58.920 trying to control

00:20:59.660 nominations and leadership

00:21:00.740 nominations we want to

00:21:02.060 crack down on voter fraud in

00:21:03.740 the internal political party

00:21:04.920 elections get elections

00:21:06.800 Ontario involved with that

00:21:07.940 right it's not going to cost

00:21:08.940 any money to do so but to

00:21:10.540 make it a punishable offense

00:21:12.000 because right now you can go

00:21:13.100 in bring your box full of

00:21:14.720 ballots or whatever you choose

00:21:16.160 to do like you know we had

00:21:17.700 issues in Hamilton in the

00:21:20.180 Hamilton writings back when

00:21:21.180 Patrick Brown was a PC leader

00:21:22.500 and you know it made the

00:21:25.240 news they were they had a

00:21:26.340 printer on site they had bell

00:21:27.900 bills showing up complete

00:21:30.220 fraud but nothing can happen

00:21:31.500 it's not a criminal offense

00:21:33.220 it's not an offense at all so

00:21:34.720 we need to crack down on that

00:21:36.380 and so that's one of our

00:21:37.640 policies and it's actually

00:21:39.960 policy number three then

00:21:41.200 lobbyists number two implement

00:21:42.360 bill 150 is number three

00:21:43.460 because it's so important when

00:21:45.200 you are these nomination process

00:21:48.380 these nominations right that

00:21:50.340 you're choosing the candidate

00:21:51.640 who is going to potentially

00:21:53.640 represent your community in the

00:21:57.040 provincial legislature you want

00:21:58.800 that person to be elected in

00:22:00.480 honest ways democratically right

00:22:03.160 50 percent of ridings are

00:22:04.500 basically just nominations in the

00:22:06.700 sense that the party the person

00:22:08.120 who's going to win is already

00:22:09.580 predestined because that riding

00:22:12.200 just votes that way and so when

00:22:14.820 it's literally in control of

00:22:16.520 whoever has like the whoever

00:22:18.600 has control over the printer or

00:22:20.180 the ballot box in that riding

00:22:21.520 who's going to then represent

00:22:23.040 people that's a problem like I'm

00:22:25.720 actually okay with parties

00:22:26.840 appointing people but you have

00:22:28.420 to be honest that you're

00:22:29.140 appointing them you don't you

00:22:30.260 don't have a fake nomination

00:22:31.300 where you sell a bunch of

00:22:32.180 memberships to gain people's

00:22:33.580 data they feel like they are

00:22:35.460 connected with the party and

00:22:36.860 then somebody is chosen as the

00:22:38.380 candidate really they were

00:22:39.360 claimed through fraud but they

00:22:42.060 get to retain your data and keep

00:22:43.220 asking you for money and all

00:22:44.340 this stuff all these parties

00:22:46.020 would immediately stop wouldn't

00:22:47.600 do appointments if they had to

00:22:48.580 be honest that it's an

00:22:49.420 appointment as a lot of people

00:22:50.880 would say what's the point of

00:22:51.620 being part of this party

00:22:52.380 though and think of the money

00:22:53.620 and the time right like people

00:22:54.840 are donating their money for

00:22:56.240 these candidates people are

00:22:57.460 donating money to buy the

00:22:58.540 memberships people are

00:22:59.800 donating their time like it's

00:23:01.260 it's a very unfair to those

00:23:02.740 individuals um but then even

00:23:05.000 going further like who are you

00:23:07.020 beholden to if if someone is

00:23:09.220 just going to guarantee don't

00:23:10.640 worry why this is yours it's in

00:23:11.860 the bag don't worry don't worry

00:23:12.960 right who are you beholden to

00:23:14.420 the people your members who

00:23:16.740 bought those memberships to

00:23:17.720 vote for you or the guys in the

00:23:19.460 back room saying i got you

00:23:20.660 you're beholden to the guy in

00:23:21.780 the back room right and so you

00:23:23.300 say it and if you say a thing

00:23:24.600 they could just spill out the

00:23:25.580 fact that uh like oh well this

00:23:27.160 person actually committed fraud

00:23:28.700 to get their nomination and

00:23:30.960 they could just blame you for

00:23:31.860 something you have something now

00:23:33.000 sitting over your head where

00:23:34.580 you're complicit whether you

00:23:35.880 wanted to be or not and even if

00:23:38.100 you're an honest guy who might

00:23:39.120 have been able to win himself

00:23:40.740 if they put their finger on the

00:23:42.860 scale anyways you still seem like 0.99

00:23:44.620 a hypocrite yeah it's it's dirty 0.99

00:23:47.880 business right it really is so we 1.00

00:23:49.900 we need to see big change in that

00:23:52.360 area and so that's why that's in

00:23:53.920 our top it's in our top three um

00:23:56.440 we have you know reduced

00:23:59.240 administrative costs in education

00:24:00.760 alternative schooling tax credits

00:24:02.940 it's just reduced electricity rates

00:24:06.120 these things make sense a parent's

00:24:07.800 bill of rights free speech

00:24:09.560 immunity in education it is gold if

00:24:12.480 you if anyone wants to or has a

00:24:14.380 chance they should go to the new

00:24:15.560 blue ontario.com slash declaration

00:24:17.320 um you can print out i'll make sure

00:24:19.180 to link that in awesome thank you you

00:24:21.000 can print out the pdf or you could

00:24:22.120 just scroll through we have it um

00:24:24.120 nicely done and you know we do have

00:24:26.620 things on environment on health we

00:24:29.120 have housing labor we've categorized

00:24:31.800 everything into the current ministries

00:24:33.420 um that we see in the legislature and

00:24:36.580 like i said we have 42 different

00:24:38.120 policies put together put put through

00:24:40.380 by our loyal members and we're the

00:24:43.540 only party that's done that we're the

00:24:45.760 only party that's done that in years

00:24:46.900 and the funny and again the funny

00:24:48.660 thing is that it's not like what you

00:24:50.660 guys are doing is seeing that the pc

00:24:53.020 party is just not conservative enough

00:24:55.340 they're not conservative at all you guys

00:24:57.220 are basically on a mission to just

00:24:58.760 achieve what the pc party says it's

00:25:01.260 attempting to achieve but they're just

00:25:03.220 not never going to actually do it and

00:25:04.820 they've never done their actions no

00:25:06.440 they're beholden to the lobbyists they're

00:25:07.900 never going to do it right and and most

00:25:09.400 of the people running the pc party are

00:25:10.940 in fact liberals like they're they're

00:25:12.580 not conservative by any stretch of the

00:25:14.220 imagination and you know the challenge

00:25:16.320 that i've i've noticed um when i was

00:25:18.900 door knocking in 2022 and even talking

00:25:21.140 to people like every day i was somewhere

00:25:23.940 on it was in markham the other day and

00:25:25.720 uh some mentioned it um it's people

00:25:29.000 tend to vote for the leader and not for

00:25:31.260 the representative and i think that's

00:25:32.440 really really dangerous because when

00:25:34.960 you're voting for a leader um then i

00:25:39.280 mean what what's your expectation at

00:25:40.680 that point that he or she is going to

00:25:42.180 make all of make all the calls but

00:25:44.360 that's not how this works like you

00:25:45.840 should have an mpp who is willing to

00:25:48.280 step outside and say you know what no

00:25:50.480 this isn't right and even though it's

00:25:52.440 not popular the people that i am being

00:25:54.100 paid to represent don't want this or

00:25:56.480 don't like this or do want this right

00:25:58.000 and that's what i did when i was an

00:25:59.100 mpp and in ontario i'd argue it's even

00:26:01.580 lower resolution than that people aren't

00:26:03.640 even voting for the leader in terms of

00:26:05.940 doug ford nobody actually likes a doug

00:26:07.640 ford they like the vibes of his much

00:26:11.240 better brother rob ford because rob

00:26:13.340 ford i even had somebody repeat the

00:26:14.920 other day and they don't like doug ford

00:26:17.080 they're like well the last good thing he

00:26:18.680 ever did in ontario was getting rid of

00:26:20.520 counselor benefits in the city of

00:26:22.500 toronto i'm like that was his brother

00:26:24.480 just letting you know that was his

00:26:26.480 brother doug had nothing to do with

00:26:28.340 that that's why one of my favorite uh

00:26:30.660 my favorite uh things i've ever heard

00:26:33.140 about uh doug ford was jim's quote from

00:26:36.980 when he was working for rob ford and

00:26:38.860 when he was uh in his last term as city

00:26:40.660 counselor that people don't know that my

00:26:42.620 brother is a giant pinko that uh and

00:26:45.920 the thing is you can see it in

00:26:47.020 everything that uh that doug ford does

00:26:49.400 what's the difference between a justin

00:26:51.840 trudeau policy and a doug ford policy

00:26:54.120 it's the same difference as between a

00:26:56.700 justin trudeau and a jagme sing policy

00:26:58.160 it's just the dollar signs it's just how

00:27:00.700 many how many millions of dollars are

00:27:02.840 going to go towards this bloated program

00:27:04.840 are going to go towards this subsidy or

00:27:07.920 that subsidy it's crazy how much people

00:27:11.040 actually pay in taxes in ontario to get

00:27:12.880 back to this it's wild the top marginal

00:27:15.600 tax rates are 53 percent and that is not

00:27:18.440 even taking into account that there is a

00:27:20.300 13 percent a harmonized sales tax in the

00:27:23.520 province and the thing is that's that's

00:27:25.580 actually why i don't like hst in general

00:27:28.000 in the sense it allows the provincial

00:27:30.220 government to pretend it's not the one

00:27:32.760 taxing you it's the harmonized sales tax

00:27:34.960 this is where i'm going to give a small

00:27:36.520 endorsement to bill van der zam in bc

00:27:38.800 because people will be like well bc's uh

00:27:41.140 like sales taxes and felder taxes

00:27:43.220 combined are then higher though but the

00:27:45.220 thing is that the bc government has to

00:27:46.580 be honest about it the fact that is

00:27:48.820 taxing people that high it has to say

00:27:51.140 that we are the ones taxing you guys and

00:27:53.620 so that's you know shame on them but in

00:27:56.820 ontario even this happened recently the

00:28:00.500 ontario government was actually getting

00:28:02.500 close to balancing the budget not on

00:28:04.420 purpose by accident by accident they brought

00:28:07.300 in 1.5 billion dollars more in tax

00:28:10.420 revenues than they had assumed that they

00:28:12.580 would ontario by the way has the highest

00:28:15.460 debt per capital levels of any

00:28:17.380 jurisdiction in north america and then

00:28:19.620 they also had their i think it was

00:28:22.100 maybe brought in 2.5 billion actually i

00:28:24.340 think it was the debt payments interest

00:28:26.740 payments they were they came in 2.5

00:28:29.380 billion dollars lower for the next year

00:28:31.780 than they also assumed so they had like

00:28:34.340 1.9 or 3.9 billion dollars more money or

00:28:38.660 less expenses combined than they first

00:28:40.820 assumed so they're they were actually

00:28:42.900 about to run a surplus just based on

00:28:45.620 those two factors and then ford spent

00:28:48.180 more money he spent themselves back into a

00:28:50.900 deficit you know to pay for the 200

00:28:53.940 handouts and whatnot which is really

00:28:55.940 pathetic that they are they don't even 0.88

00:28:58.420 have the cash on hand to bribe people with 0.99

00:29:01.300 their own money in a substantial way back in

00:29:03.860 the day now in alberta if people remember

00:29:06.420 uh ralph bucks when when ralph klein cut

00:29:09.860 albertans a check from their own tax

00:29:11.780 dollars he at least gave people like a

00:29:13.940 substantial amount of money especially

00:29:15.940 for 2005.

00:29:17.780 doug ford's 200 at the start of his term

00:29:20.980 is probably worth like is that 200 is

00:29:24.260 probably only worth 60 of what it used to

00:29:26.420 yeah what was that going to do for many

00:29:28.180 people like it'll help maybe some people

00:29:30.660 but a lot of people that have been

00:29:32.420 connecting with us by email are saying

00:29:34.820 what does that do that that doesn't even

00:29:36.340 pay for a week's worth of groceries

00:29:38.580 how much does it cost to administer this

00:29:40.500 program how much does it cost to even

00:29:42.580 send out the stuff when you actually add

00:29:44.740 all that stuff up it's it's a completely

00:29:47.060 worthless just election tactic and i and

00:29:50.740 that's the thing honestly this is where

00:29:53.460 conservatives need to just get back to

00:29:55.380 fundamentals if anything i i almost feel

00:29:57.780 in it's the people almost find it like

00:30:00.260 cute every time we start talking about

00:30:02.020 lower taxes maybe we should reduce tax

00:30:04.580 brackets maybe the surcharge on your

00:30:07.300 taxes should be eliminated because that's

00:30:09.460 a complete like that's a trick to

00:30:12.260 pretend that the government isn't taxing

00:30:14.100 you as much but i always find people are

00:30:15.860 like well that's cute but we got to you

00:30:18.020 know subsidize honda or whatever for like

00:30:21.140 evs or or something at the same time

00:30:23.620 then doug ford acts like i'm a i'm a

00:30:25.540 i'm a tough beef-eating conservative who's

00:30:28.180 you know he's the everyman right yeah but

00:30:31.620 then he's subsidizing ev companies or

00:30:33.780 whatever like that's not even something

00:30:35.460 that david eby is doing 0.97

00:30:37.540 yeah it's it's pathetic but people don't 0.98

00:30:39.620 look at these little details 0.98

00:30:41.380 um and you know they don't realize that

00:30:45.300 you have this political party that

00:30:47.780 doesn't have any type of policy creation

00:30:50.340 with their own members they don't care

00:30:51.860 enough about the numbers to show them the

00:30:53.860 decency to say hey we actually we value

00:30:56.500 your input we want to make sure this

00:30:57.940 party is going in the direction

00:30:59.780 that you want to see it going in so they

00:31:02.100 they haven't had a proper policy

00:31:03.540 convention the one in 2018 where jim

00:31:05.540 ran for president was a sham that wasn't

00:31:07.300 actual policy convention they didn't apply

00:31:09.140 anything

00:31:10.500 there was ballot box stuffing at that one

00:31:12.180 too right like even though apparently they

00:31:14.980 got rid of patrick brown because of all

00:31:16.980 the ballot box stuffing in part although they

00:31:19.060 made up an excuse that it was because of his

00:31:20.900 personal behavior right it just i mean the

00:31:24.260 more things change the more they stay the

00:31:25.700 same with them right like they it's

00:31:27.380 this is why you know we consistently say

00:31:29.300 that it doesn't matter who the leader of

00:31:30.820 the pc party is it doesn't matter who it is

00:31:33.780 it's the same people running the show and

00:31:35.860 things will never change things will never

00:31:37.700 change you've got the same you know mpps

00:31:40.100 running all the time and they're all too

00:31:42.500 afraid to speak their mind they will never

00:31:45.540 step their toe out of line ever and i'm

00:31:48.100 speaking from experience being in caucus

00:31:50.180 with these individuals before i was kicked

00:31:51.700 out for having the audacity of voting

00:31:54.180 against a bill that was

00:31:56.180 dreadful like bill 195 it was literally

00:31:58.820 like dictatorial powers for doug ford

00:32:01.460 whenever he wanted it was made for cuba like 0.98

00:32:03.460 that that that bill was ridiculous

00:32:05.460 basically like you said he could make the 0.81

00:32:07.780 decision about anything he wanted whenever

00:32:09.860 he wanted um that's not canada that's not

00:32:12.660 the country that we live in uh and it's

00:32:16.180 the fact that they all just you know and i

00:32:17.780 know some of them were uncomfortable with it

00:32:19.140 but oh we don't want to get kicked out we

00:32:21.540 don't want to get kicked out of the party and

00:32:23.140 they were all worried that i was going to be

00:32:24.260 kicked out and i did and that's okay right

00:32:26.260 because good things came from that

00:32:27.940 it was so common sense to even wasn't it

00:32:30.260 like the b the ontario mdp voted against it 0.96

00:32:34.340 that it was so ridiculous even the lefty 0.81

00:32:36.340 parties were like this is obviously not okay 0.78

00:32:39.220 it was um you're making me think if it was

00:32:42.420 there yeah there were some i think some of the

00:32:44.020 liberals voted against it i think it was a

00:32:45.940 mishmash but all the pc mpp's they're all

00:32:49.060 fine with it just to give away their their

00:32:51.060 ability to vote just just completely just

00:32:53.220 hand it over to the premier um and his

00:32:55.780 executive team and it's just it's such

00:32:58.340 like they should be they should be hanging

00:33:00.260 their heads and shame for that and uh you

00:33:02.580 know but good things came from it like i was

00:33:04.980 an independent and then we started the new

00:33:06.420 blue party and it's been amazing but really and

00:33:10.100 truly just the amount of change we were able to

00:33:13.300 make in my two years um with the new blue party and a

00:33:16.500 little bit of time as an independent we were able as you

00:33:19.220 had mentioned earlier about like steering that ship in a different

00:33:21.380 direction putting that pressure we were able to make a difference with

00:33:25.220 one sitting mpp just you know hammering them from the other side it

00:33:29.700 was amazing like that that bill that bill 67 after we shamed them

00:33:33.140 in the media and over social media they they let it die at committee they were too

00:33:37.380 afraid to move on it because they knew that we were just going to keep

00:33:39.940 hammering them and that's all it takes is one mpp who has the guts 1.00

00:33:45.140 to speak up and and the brains to say like this is

00:33:48.500 these are not good ideas by the way if people don't know because so often

00:33:52.740 people will attribute good things happening to the loudest voices on

00:33:56.900 social media even though they haven't done anything to help out

00:34:00.180 a good i even did a report on this randy hillier hillier who's running like the

00:34:04.180 populist party of ontario wherever but then dropped out and decide not to run

00:34:07.460 oh he gets a lot artificially a lot of credit around

00:34:10.660 covet era stuff even though he never showed up to the legislature at all

00:34:14.260 didn't get the vote he literally didn't show up to the

00:34:17.780 legislature for two years basically yeah it was insane and he was

00:34:22.100 yeah stuff like that annoys me if you're gonna be a principled

00:34:25.700 conservative you actually have to show up and do the job not just declare it on

00:34:29.300 twitter but you people don't even realize that you actually you and jim

00:34:33.540 prevented you jim and the new blue party in general prevented

00:34:37.140 or basically defeated the vaccine mandate on ontario nurses and doctors

00:34:42.260 there was going to be thousands of people fired but you guys actually pushed

00:34:45.940 out the press uh the uh the the like the

00:34:48.980 information on this to get enough people outraged the the on

00:34:51.780 the ontario government actually backed off of it preemptively there was a few

00:34:55.540 times where they were going to basically not let patients into the

00:34:58.420 hospital who weren't vaccinated it's it was it was like

00:35:02.500 looking back on it it's it still blows my mind

00:35:05.140 but you know those vaccine mandates they're still happening in the

00:35:08.100 hospitals today for a lot of these um

00:35:10.980 healthcare professionals and it's because even though

00:35:14.100 the pcs have the power to say no hospitals you can't do this

00:35:17.380 they're just wiping their hands and saying well we haven't mandated it

00:35:21.380 it's the hospital that's doing it well you know what they could do they could

00:35:23.940 just say hospitals you can't do that

00:35:26.500 and and but they're choosing not to um and it's just like with what's going on

00:35:29.860 in the school they they can very easily say

00:35:32.260 you know parental bill of rights like we were proposing in our policy

00:35:35.940 declaration and you know parents have the first right to

00:35:39.780 educate their children in the way that they want to when it comes to sensitive

00:35:42.420 topics but they don't they just brush their hands of it and say well that's a

00:35:46.020 school board thing or that's a hospital board thing that's not an us thing

00:35:50.580 and this becomes a this this happens all over the country

00:35:53.700 is that eventually and it's not that it's destined

00:35:56.820 good parties are able to avoid this in time the problem is a lot of parties end

00:36:01.140 up becoming obsessive about the views of people

00:36:04.100 who live in ridings that are never going to vote for them and not even exactly

00:36:07.700 everyone who lives there but very specific you know the cocktail party

00:36:11.060 circuit type set of people that that's what happened to the bc

00:36:14.660 liberals in british columbia they were supposed to be the big tent party for

00:36:17.780 everyone from the center to the right

00:36:19.940 and it ended up becoming the party for consultants in vancouver the ontario pcs

00:36:24.820 in 2018 actually ran on in effect a socially conservative platform and it

00:36:29.860 paid dividends in a lot of ridings because it turns out most people

00:36:33.300 aren't woke progressives and then but because all of their

00:36:37.540 party's friends all of their you know lobbyist friends every one of their

00:36:42.340 people that they respect the opinions of in the media

00:36:45.540 they all live in downtown toronto and so it becomes a party that is over is

00:36:51.060 constantly bending over backwards to please those who would destroy them if

00:36:54.900 they could that's always the funny thing is

00:36:57.300 people who are trying to please those who would ruin you

00:37:00.980 for for no other reason than they like the liberals and the ndp still better

00:37:04.900 and so then the pcs end up being the worst of both worlds

00:37:08.180 yes they can get re-elected but that's only been because of the

00:37:12.100 the the the lack of merit of steven del duca and andrea horvath and

00:37:17.700 probably again with merit styles and uh and bonnie crombie

00:37:22.420 ford's not popular he's just the least incompetent out of the three of them

00:37:27.060 but that's not exactly an endorsement he's the most competent at

00:37:30.660 passing bad legislation truly and i'm not just saying this be hyperbolic

00:37:34.820 i don't know what would change if the liberals or the ndp beat the

00:37:39.060 ford pcs i don't know how it would change was they going to spend even more

00:37:43.540 because doug ford's already busting out the spending and someone will be like

00:37:46.980 oh the spending only went up three or four percent

00:37:49.540 but that's three or four percent over what was already putting

00:37:52.500 the the province into deep debt and massive amounts of like this is

00:37:56.580 ontario needs like what they're doing in the us

00:37:58.980 yeah with elon musk and vivek uh ramaswamy

00:38:02.820 just got to go through all these departments audit them and cut stuff that is

00:38:06.900 is not working there's so much waste there's so much waste

00:38:10.180 and it's just it's wild but you know the fact that the pcs

00:38:14.180 spent more than the liberals pre-covid spending

00:38:17.540 like people i say that all the time is people forget

00:38:20.580 they're spending more money and we are not getting we're not even getting

00:38:24.100 more from it like everything still is you know

00:38:27.140 um while i'm not the official representative for cambridge anymore

00:38:31.140 i still get people you know coming up to me when i'm out or calling me and

00:38:35.780 still complaining you know i'm at the hospital for so long

00:38:38.820 i can't be seen even though i'm with a child

00:38:41.060 i can't find a family doctor you know it's just

00:38:44.340 nothing has gotten any better uh and we cost of living has gone up

00:38:49.540 and the pcs are just you know standing there

00:38:52.340 beating their own drums saying how great they are

00:38:54.660 and and trying to push through an early election to

00:38:57.140 hold on to the power that they currently have

00:39:00.100 um the reason they're also doing that

00:39:02.980 is because if pure polyev becomes the next prime minister of canada

00:39:06.580 standards might go up on what it takes to actually be considered a conservative

00:39:10.500 government in this country right now doug ford can't really be

00:39:13.620 compared to anyone so people can't remember what an actual conservative is

00:39:16.900 like i'm in alberta and i can even tell you like

00:39:19.700 daniel smith's kind of the same way the budget went up about 14

00:39:23.620 in her first year on nonsense we have seven million just as a microcosm of the 0.51

00:39:27.940 problems seven million dollars goes to anti-racism grants every year

00:39:32.420 which is basically funding your own destruction so then go to left-wing

00:39:35.140 groups who are going to collect that and pass it over to the ndp someday

00:39:38.260 and it's not making the place less racist it's making the province more racist

00:39:41.860 by obsessing about race and but if polyev becomes the prime minister

00:39:46.500 on a mandate that he kind of has to cut spending he has to

00:39:49.700 do a lot of stuff or he's going to get thrown up quite quickly

00:39:52.420 if he starts doing that stuff doug ford is going to look like complete

00:39:55.940 simpleton compared to him that's why doug ford needs the election before

00:39:59.700 polyev gets in to give to give somebody a compliment

00:40:04.660 i do give jamil giovanni a lot of credit that when he

00:40:08.660 replaced erin o'toole in the federal uh for the federal riding of durham in the

00:40:12.820 by-election there it it's telling that one of the

00:40:17.220 things jamil made sure to say at his by-election victory party is

00:40:22.100 calling out how much of a disappointment doug ford and stephen lecce had

00:40:25.780 been especially on social policy he didn't do that by accident or

00:40:30.180 something like that something slipped out he did that because you can't kick

00:40:33.540 him out after the guy's just won the by-election you know it's his moment

00:40:37.540 and you know that it's that guy used to work inside the pc party

00:40:41.140 appointed by them yeah he was and that's so that guy even he

00:40:47.220 feels the need to spill out onto the floor of just how bad the ontario

00:40:51.460 government has been yeah it's i mean you can't make this stuff

00:40:56.500 up right like it's just it's wild um i forgot to mention

00:41:00.580 because you had talked about hst our policy number 18 would be we support

00:41:05.620 tax relief cutting ontario's hst from 13 to 10

00:41:09.540 with a long-term objective of scrapping the hst entirely

00:41:12.900 so um i wanted to bring that up because you mentioned hst

00:41:16.500 and i'm sure a lot of your viewers are also interested in scrapping the hst

00:41:20.580 so that is something that we are committed to at the new blue party

00:41:24.660 good policy you know that's a fantastic one

00:41:27.620 and that's when i hear all this fear-mongering in canada that donald trump

00:41:31.220 is going to be the u.s president again canada is going to get hammered

00:41:34.500 economically it's like we're only going to get hammered economically

00:41:37.380 because right now in canada as as a country as well as on the provincial level

00:41:42.420 in places like ontario and british columbia the economy is bad because or

00:41:47.780 comparatively non-competitive because of the government

00:41:50.660 if we just cut regulations cut taxes we could actually be a threat to the u.s

00:41:55.060 and have jobs coming up to places like ontario

00:41:58.420 or british columbia or new brunswick or wherever

00:42:01.780 even for the maritime provinces i was trying to yell at the blaine higgs uh

00:42:07.140 campaign because blaine higgs was actually doing an overall pretty decent job

00:42:10.420 but you don't run on a cut tax cut if you're in government

00:42:13.300 you cut the taxes yeah and you run on the fact that you cut the taxes

00:42:16.580 exactly blaine was actually a good premier

00:42:19.860 but like so many people in progressive conservative politics they eventually

00:42:24.340 give over the functioning of their campaigns or government to consultants

00:42:28.100 and they're like we don't want to cut taxes now because that could be

00:42:30.660 controversial

00:42:32.580 being controversial is not actually bad sometimes no it's because i think that

00:42:37.460 that actually perfectly describes your husband jim controversial but he's

00:42:41.540 right and that's why it's controversial because people don't want

00:42:44.660 somebody saying the correct thing they just want you to just pretend

00:42:48.180 everything's fantastic and say nothing

00:42:51.460 you want to be controversial on issues that you can win on

00:42:55.300 and that are and that you're correct on

00:42:58.020 that's like immigration on a federal level the conservatives should be running on

00:43:02.260 cutting immigration down to like a hundred thousand new permanent

00:43:04.500 residents a year shame on them if they don't actually run on a specific number

00:43:08.020 and they just keep it vague because and if anyone in their party

00:43:11.620 says we don't want to run on that because someone might criticize us

00:43:14.100 let them and then beat them in the public square

00:43:17.460 and show how their economic plan and their high immigration rates are going to

00:43:21.700 hurt the country that's how you do this stuff you

00:43:24.900 run on something that you can win on but you can also

00:43:27.780 like you're correct on as well i find so often people just run on

00:43:31.700 in offensive stuff it's because they're afraid like that's it's it

00:43:35.460 that's all it is it's fear they want to be liked by everybody and they want to

00:43:38.580 win and instead of taking aside they sit on the

00:43:41.700 fence that way you know maybe maybe you're not sure

00:43:45.380 maybe you like immigration i haven't said anything against it so you're going to

00:43:47.780 vote for me but you don't like it and i really haven't said i'm

00:43:50.340 for it so you'll vote for me too i can't take i can't stand that kind of

00:43:53.620 politics like say what you mean and mean what you say

00:43:56.740 you know just just you're either going to vote for me because you you love it or you're

00:44:00.820 not because you hate it but at least there's honesty on both ends right i'm

00:44:04.420 not gonna and people even forget it's not like i'm

00:44:07.620 saying you know take a hit for doing the right

00:44:10.580 thing i'm saying benefit by doing the right thing

00:44:13.780 that's the again i'm using the alberta example i always find it so

00:44:16.820 hypocritical every pc ucp premier or party leader over the

00:44:23.540 years always basically stands in front of a giant photo of ralph

00:44:27.860 client says wasn't he such a great premier a fiscal hawks respected social

00:44:32.900 conservatives all this stuff and they're like now let's do none of what

00:44:35.700 he did and then they never do anything that

00:44:39.540 john fredgian is like 10 times a conservative

00:44:42.660 that doug ford is and he's not even a conservative because he actually could cut

00:44:46.500 spending he could balance a checkbook oh my goodness

00:44:49.220 it's always funny how we uh we wonder why kids can't

00:44:52.420 can't uh you know why kids are when they're like young adults they don't

00:44:56.100 understand economics they don't know how to save money when

00:44:58.500 our government doesn't know how to save money either like when we're

00:45:02.340 surprised that people grow up not having a good

00:45:04.900 financial literacy when the government doesn't either

00:45:08.020 we have no good examples no good leaders

00:45:11.700 it's it's yeah it's a shame doug ford is just

00:45:15.780 you know he doesn't he says what he thinks is going to get him votes

00:45:19.140 he doesn't stand for anything i don't think he actually believes in

00:45:21.620 anything i think he believes in whatever is popular

00:45:24.340 at the time in order to get re-elected and that's where i use the example it

00:45:28.660 feels like new york city in the 1880s it's a graft

00:45:32.340 politics just relationships a coalition building but not around principle or

00:45:37.060 ideology just around did your city get a new

00:45:40.580 factory that we subsidize did you get that 200 handout that we just put out

00:45:45.860 it it's just cobbling stuff together getting people in positions who have large

00:45:50.660 data lists that they can give you for the next election you're not

00:45:53.460 earning these votes because you actually did something right you're just able to

00:45:56.740 have better access to those voters than the other parties do

00:46:00.980 anyways but i guess that's probably a good place to end off the uh the the video here

00:46:06.340 thanks for coming on belinda again i fully endorse so that nobody doesn't

00:46:10.580 understand where i'm coming from here i fully endorse both jim and belinda carajalios as well as

00:46:16.340 the new blue party so if you live in ontario please join the new blue party on my behalf

00:46:21.220 since i don't live there it's they're really good what they're doing they actually have

00:46:25.700 policy declarations out like they actually pass policies democratically they actually have eda's in

00:46:31.460 every single riding the ppc doesn't even have that they keep getting eda's deregistered because

00:46:37.940 they don't keep they don't file their financial returns jim was the first party actually i think the

00:46:42.740 new blue party was the first one to hand in their financial returns after 2022 so and i will say

00:46:48.580 that we are um because the new the election is happening early this year we are looking for

00:46:53.860 candidates so if you want to get involved in the new blue party you the viewer uh please do get

00:46:59.700 online new blue ontario.com and check out our candidate application um because you know you can

00:47:06.100 make a difference and you know let's let's change it up perfect i'll i'll make sure that uh the policy

00:47:11.140 declaration the website's linked in the description below as well if you guys like

00:47:15.380 pure poly of on a federal level it's not rational to be voting doug ford on provincial

00:47:19.940 level in ontario you know you can't eliminate the gatekeepers and do all this stuff that they want

00:47:24.420 to do on a federal level while then having doug ford be the man that if federal tax are cut

00:47:29.140 he might then fill in the gap by raising taxes you need real conservatives across the board or stuff's

00:47:33.940 not gonna actually get gonna get done anyways so see you guys all uh in my next video hopefully you

00:47:39.860 like this longer form interview format thanks to you belinda for coming on and i guess i'll see

00:47:45.140 you guys all next time

The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - November 17, 2024

Doug Ford is Justin Trudeau's Biggest Provincial Ally (ft. Belinda Karahalios)

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