The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - May 16, 2026


Eby KILLS Carney's Fake Pipeline Scheme - Alberta and BC Fight over agreement!


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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here and welcome back to the National Telegraph YouTube channel.
00:00:06.040 I just quickly wanted to comment on this development around Mark Carney's potential
00:00:11.840 maybe someday pipeline with Alberta Premier Danielle Smith. Now I want to start this video
00:00:18.660 off saying I actually kind of agree here with Marty up north. We don't agree on everything,
00:00:23.900 but on this we definitely agree. Not 100%, but I agree with the sentiment. He says
00:00:29.540 it's too bad she had a lot of potential but she's going to go down as just another one-term premier
00:00:35.940 and he is of course referring to alberta premier danielle smith because today she signed an
00:00:42.460 agreement with mark carney to potentially maybe build a pipeline someday mark carney right here
00:00:49.320 says today's agreement between canada and alberta will diversify our exports reduce our emissions
00:00:55.220 and give investors the certainty they need to build.
00:00:58.080 Together, we're building a stronger, more prosperous, and more sustainable future for all.
00:01:03.460 Now, if the agreement commits to reduce our emissions,
00:01:07.680 I'm sorry, but that is kind of what we call in the business foreshadowing
00:01:12.300 that we're probably not going to actually get a pipeline.
00:01:16.020 Now, everyone is ballyhooing the idea that this is a pipeline agreement.
00:01:22.020 We know we're going to get a pipeline because we signed something that said
00:01:25.180 pipeline in it. But this is not a pipeline agreement. This is another kicking the can
00:01:30.940 down the road to potentially saying yes someday to a pipeline of some kind. What happens is on
00:01:39.720 October 1st, 2026, Mark Carney will designate the concept of a West Coast pipeline as a project
00:01:47.780 of national interest, and then may end up following up to give a construction approval
00:01:55.380 to one in September of 2027. But none of this actually guarantees somebody is going to build
00:02:03.840 a pipeline, or that the regulatory hurdles are going to be gotten out of the way for the pipeline.
00:02:10.600 You will note that Bill C-69 and Bill C-48, I forget the exact technical names for them,
00:02:16.740 are still in place. There is a federal conservative private members bill actually from my MP David
00:02:24.040 McKenzie currently going through Parliament to try and repeal Bill C-48, which is one of the biggest
00:02:30.720 hurdles that prevents any oil and gas from being shipped off of the northwest coast, a big hurdle
00:02:38.200 to actually having any proponents step up and want to build a pipeline. Carney and the liberals could
00:02:44.220 already gotten rid of Bill C-48 if they wanted. They could have gotten rid of Bill C-69. So what
00:02:49.400 I'm seeing here is Danielle Smith has gone from what I assume to be a little bit of performative
00:02:55.800 naivete to just being naive. She effectively committed to reducing emissions and paying more 0.98
00:03:03.000 money, just signing Alberta's oil and gas industry to paying more carbon taxes for the general vague
00:03:09.920 promise that something might be built at some point, even though what she signed in theory
00:03:14.740 actually makes it less attractive for a proponent to come forward. In many ways, maybe this does
00:03:20.060 result in the pipeline and I'm going to look foolish. I've never closed the door to the
00:03:24.540 possibility it might get built. I just don't think it's in the cards with Mark Carney. If he wanted
00:03:29.880 to get one built, as people like Pierre Polyev have been suggesting, he could have immediately
00:03:35.140 put out a permit, just said, I approve any pipeline concept going to the Northwest coast,
00:03:42.080 and I'm going to get rid of all the regulatory hurdles, all the tax hurdles, and just get it
00:03:48.020 going right now. He could have done that a long time ago. He's stretching out this process as
00:03:53.960 long as possible. And already, the entire project has hit another new hurdle. And that is the
00:04:01.340 Premier of British Columbia, David Eby, who after the announcement was made, immediately came out to
00:04:08.500 attack Daniel Smith and Alberta. And you could say, well, this is just whining from David Eby.
00:04:14.780 What does this matter anyways? It actually matters a lot because Prime Minister Mark Carney
00:04:21.640 has said his Liberal government will only go forward with a pipeline if First Nations and
00:04:28.180 the provinces approve. And David Eby here has basically said that he does not approve because
00:04:34.340 Danielle Smith is a secret separatist or whatever. I'm going to read you guys this so you can
00:04:38.880 just see how delusional this whole thing is. But the problem is Mark Carney is hinging the success
00:04:44.340 of the project on a delusional person, David Eby. The next BC elections are not until 2028,
00:04:52.780 And I do not see an early election in that province in the cards. And so even if Mark Carney stays true to giving a construction approval in 2027, the problem is he's going to let the BC government determine the speed at which things move forward or full on have a veto, give First Nations a veto because they don't like it.
00:05:15.460 and apparently that was part of the formula. What I think Mark Carney is doing is what I've
00:05:20.360 been saying he's been doing the entire time. He will keep saying yes while outsourcing saying no
00:05:25.640 to other people later. But before we get into that statement with David Eby a little bit later
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00:06:18.480 So here is what David Eby said on social media just a bit ago. He says, it cannot be the case
00:06:25.100 that the projects that get prioritized in Canada are those where a premier threatens to leave the
00:06:30.940 country. Next week, I'll be meeting with the prime minister to bring him a list of projects we can
00:06:35.520 work on for the benefit of all Canadians. So what it sounds like here is NDP Premier David Eby
00:06:42.680 is playing a brinksmanship game against both Alberta Premier Daniel Smith as well as Prime
00:06:50.420 Minister Mark Carney. Now the problem for Mark Carney is again not only has he put decision-making
00:06:56.200 power partially in the hands of Premier David Eby but more seats are at risk for the federal
00:07:04.120 liberals in British Columbia than Alberta. I am predicting that, again, what is going to happen
00:07:10.800 is that Eby and Carney are going to come to an agreement to basically slowly kill the prospects
00:07:16.080 of a pipeline. Talk about how they worked some things out. They discussed how things need to
00:07:22.380 move forward with full consultation with First Nations and environmental groups. And the timeline
00:07:28.400 will keep going. But as time goes on, Mark Carney will start bumping back construction approval
00:07:33.420 by a few months here and there and the media will keep saying it's just a few months they just have
00:07:38.600 to talk to the Haida Gwaii they just have to talk to this indigenous group they just have to talk
00:07:43.060 to the Heights Foundation and we will never actually get to a project remember we had what
00:07:49.440 it was at the uh it wasn't the coastal link or it wasn't the TMX but you get my point we've had
00:07:55.660 pipelines that almost started building even partially started building and got shut down
00:08:00.700 The idea that we have the media now promoting and saying, see, Carney's pro pipeline. On the surface, I still have not seen any pipe actually laid down into the ground to get the thing to the coast. We are preemptively celebrating something that by definition is a year and a half away from even being theoretically started.
00:08:23.100 but in uh in david eby's full statement here he says as a country it's time to stop rewarding bad
00:08:30.440 behavior it cannot be the case that the projects that get prioritized in canada are those where
00:08:34.920 a premier threatens to leave the country here in the bc we have the what the rest of the world is
00:08:40.020 looking for critical minerals natural resources and port access we have shovel ready projects
00:08:45.000 with real proponents and investments that will provide good paying jobs and funding for public
00:08:49.800 services some of our 88 billion in prioritized projects have been reached final investment
00:08:54.760 decisions creating thousands of new high-paying jobs despite this early success our 35 additional
00:09:00.200 job creating projects need more attention and coordination with ottawa these 35 projects will
00:09:05.320 bring jobs and prosperity to all of canada the federal government must work as closely must work
00:09:11.320 as closely with us on these projects as they work with the government of alberta on daniel smith's
00:09:16.840 proposed pipeline a project that has yet to identify a proponent or a route and it just
00:09:23.640 keeps going on and trying to conspiracy conspiracy eyes about how danielle smith is secretly controlled
00:09:30.440 by the separatist forces in alberta and she's threatening to leave the country never has danielle
00:09:36.120 smith ever threatened to leave the country to have alberta separate she simply says the sentiment is
00:09:42.760 there and it is growing because of the actions of ottawa now again i think that danielle smith is
00:09:49.800 being played a little bit here by mark carney because she has just signed up to increasing
00:09:55.560 the industrial carbon tax in alberta that was previously frozen at 95 dollars a ton
00:10:03.080 right here in the ctv news report it says as reported earlier the deal lowers the effective
00:10:10.040 carbon price for Alberta to 130 a ton by 2024 instead of 2030. As previously laid out in the
00:10:17.320 memorandum of understanding signed by the pair in November, that deal originally laid out
00:10:22.280 conditions for the new pipeline to the West Coast. The province estimates the new pricing will save
00:10:26.480 the industry $250 billion by 2050. And it's like, well, okay, well, we're just pushing back the date
00:10:34.880 to get to the $140 per ton. We shouldn't be increasing taxes at all. We had previously
00:10:41.740 frozen it because that was the smart thing to do. In fact, if I was in charge, I would be slashing
00:10:48.260 the industrial carbon tax, if not eliminating it entirely. So what Daniel Smith is kind of putting
00:10:56.500 industry on the hook for right now is no actual pipeline approval, but we are going to have the
00:11:02.560 industrial carbon tax start ticking up from $95 a ton towards that $140 a ton by 2040 with no
00:11:11.280 actual guarantee it's going to lead to a pipeline. So we may end up losing industry, a bunch of
00:11:17.540 revenue that's going to go to the government without actually anything on the table, anything
00:11:24.300 tangible, tangibly gotten. But now I just want to quickly move on to one last thing I want to cover.
00:11:31.320 And that is, of course, the media reaction to it, talking about how it's going to be very difficult for conservatives to criticize what has gone on here.
00:11:40.300 Because apparently, if we say that we've, you know, if we say we're pro-pipeline and we sign documents that don't actually result in a pipeline, this means you are now beyond criticism.
00:11:50.500 Here is a supposed conservative on the panel, Fred Delory, talking about this.
00:11:55.080 The Conservatives say essentially nothing's changed here, which is, I don't know if that makes life difficult for Daniel Smith in Alberta, because if there's a proponent by Canada today, clearly something's changed.
00:12:07.000 Look, it's very, very hard to be a Conservative messaging on this right now.
00:12:11.020 It's like, Mark Carney, the day he's elected, should have grabbed a shovel and started digging that pipeline.
00:12:15.780 Why didn't he get it done then?
00:12:16.780 So it's very challenging.
00:12:18.500 On this are all things.
00:12:19.360 For all things.
00:12:19.860 except fred that germany as pure polyev has been highlighting was able to build a new port terminal
00:12:28.180 for lng in 100 days from approval to construction you can build things fast if you want mark carney
00:12:36.820 keeps acting like his hands are tied and he has to negotiate with everybody and their dog before
00:12:42.820 he can actually get the pipeline approved and we can start even considering building it he's the
00:12:49.300 prime minister with a majority not gotten the proper way but he does have a majority he could
00:12:55.540 hammer this thing through in an afternoon if he wanted and he chooses not to dragging it out and
00:13:02.020 i cannot stand all the people online trying to say well conservatives are just whining about this you
00:13:06.980 know mark carney has won this round and conservatives just need to accept it so we're gonna give him
00:13:12.580 applause for his intention to maybe someday do something i'm sorry if he eventually builds it
00:13:18.820 we'll all applaud him at that point you don't applaud the guy a year and a half before we
00:13:24.340 even get to the maybe we'll build something portion of the plan but here's fred delori
00:13:30.980 talking more should have been every province digging something it's it's uh it's it's tough
00:13:36.900 when you have a liberal prime minister acting like a conservative trying to build for both parties
00:13:42.660 it is well it seems to be uh look liberals seem to just suck it up and go with it whether you know
00:13:48.180 you go left right they're just happy to be in power um but ideologically you know look he's
00:13:52.740 getting things done if this happens a lot of albertan conservatives this is what they've
00:13:57.140 been asking for this is what they wanted uh so this is yeah politically it is uh it's one of
00:14:02.020 those things where i think polyev is probably best he could have just taken today off he didn't
00:14:06.980 right way into this well how would we know if he did no and here's the my goodness you can really
00:14:13.780 tell that there is currently a red Tory push against Pierre Polyev. I want to cover this in
00:14:18.880 a future video. There are a bunch of what I would consider consulting firm, strategy firm pawns
00:14:25.660 coming out to now try and undermine Pierre Polyev. Basically say, oh, he's lost his touch. Oh, he
00:14:32.000 can't beat Mark Kari. Just kind of trying to astroturf this narrative into the open, probably
00:14:37.080 because they're working for people who are wanting to run for office like Jason Kenney, like Mark
00:14:42.040 Mulroney like a bunch of other people who what's their plan to beat Mark Carney because all these
00:14:47.560 people who are criticizing Polyev keep giving artificial praise to Mark Carney sorry what is
00:14:52.500 one of their leaders going to become one of their candidates become going to become the leader of
00:14:57.460 the conservative party and win by giving Mark Carney rapturous applause for doing nothing right
00:15:03.980 now it's like if you asked me to go pick you up your food to go pick you up something to eat and
00:15:09.640 I said, I came home empty handed saying, I have signed a commitment to go get you food in two
00:15:15.640 weeks. Well, Wyatt, I want food now. Well, you don't understand. I signed a piece of paper that
00:15:23.420 says we're going to explore the idea of going and getting you some food. We haven't gotten any food
00:15:29.640 yet. I'm sorry, but that's just, if you haven't done it, you haven't done it. And if he actually
00:15:34.720 signed something within his first 100 days to build a pipeline it would actually be quite along
00:15:41.840 by now yeah it takes years to build a pipeline through canada's you know in like fairly harsh
00:15:48.020 environment at times it would be kind of like you know heavily underway by now we would be probably
00:15:55.480 within months maybe a year of getting the full thing connected if we just got regulations and
00:16:02.780 taxes out of the way you'd have a proponent celebrating this right now but we still don't
00:16:07.100 and i'm not i'm not saying like oh there's no proponent so the pipeline so don't bother building
00:16:11.020 a pipeline i'm saying we can't get a proponent when we keep raising taxes not getting rid of
00:16:17.180 any of the bad regulations and just simply kind of making vague commitments that we might build
00:16:22.220 something but here's now greg mckecker and reacting to all of it i'm not sure if fred
00:16:26.540 was being facetious or not about pier polia but he is a an alberta mp who did not and he's the
00:16:31.820 leader of the of her federal party and he didn't seem to play any factor in this did he not say
00:16:37.560 this week that he wanted a pipeline done with a much more rapid timetable than approve within a
00:16:43.640 hundred days of receiving the application you know and and so you know when you see the announcement
00:16:47.940 today between the premier and the prime minister um it it really does feel that he's not in the
00:16:54.520 loop he doesn't seem to know what's going on and and again if you know Albertans are unhappy
00:16:59.560 with you know how things are playing for them in Ottawa you know they have a ton of MPs from
00:17:05.500 Alberta that you never ever see there I think they're very happy they know that if they win
00:17:10.680 they're probably not going into cabinet they're very happy to do what they do but they are absent
00:17:16.080 from this and I'm circling back because I think it's important when I saw that headline about
00:17:20.900 Jason Kenney he said where's the Federalist voice I thought who is he talking about and he was
00:17:26.240 talking about the federal conservative MP. Where's the federalist voice in terms of like
00:17:32.440 Alberta independence? It pulls at 27, 30%. I'm not trying to naysay the independence movement.
00:17:41.360 I'm not pro-independence, but I'm also not like anti. I'm not like some naysayer. I'm not someone
00:17:47.600 saying, oh no, you're all traitors. I absolutely understand the arguments. I have my own arguments
00:17:52.800 for why I wouldn't necessarily vote for it.
00:17:55.160 Maybe I would even just vote for it
00:17:56.580 just to show I'm not trying to hold you back.
00:17:58.940 I'd vote for it.
00:17:59.680 I encourage you, if you want to vote for it,
00:18:01.140 definitely go out there, campaign, and vote for it.
00:18:03.020 It's not going to actually win.
00:18:06.100 And we're somehow turning this into
00:18:07.800 Pierre Polyev bad
00:18:08.680 because he has not been pro-federalist enough
00:18:11.440 when there's no need to.
00:18:13.640 I'm sorry, there is not a need to in Alberta
00:18:16.280 for Pierre Polyev to waste his time
00:18:19.480 talking about why he opposes Alberta independence.
00:18:23.460 It's a waste of time.
00:18:24.760 But what the media always wants to do
00:18:26.360 is one, they somehow turn the pipeline announcement story
00:18:29.440 into just trashing Pierre Paliyev and the conservatives.
00:18:32.800 And then we also went into giving them advice
00:18:36.380 to get off Mark Carney's back.
00:18:38.580 That is what, if the conservative party listens
00:18:41.100 to the media and goes soft on this
00:18:43.720 because, oh, they said I shouldn't criticize.
00:18:46.700 They said it looks bad for me to criticize this.
00:18:49.480 don't criticize it. It's a non-plan. The media will always give you the worst possible advice
00:18:55.720 because if you're a federal conservative, they want you to lose. Pierre Polyev has actually been,
00:19:01.900 frankly, he's been taking my whiteboard ideas and he's been doing now videos on a chart with
00:19:10.820 markers and whatnot. I don't think he actually stole it from me. But it's great to see him
00:19:15.600 actually kind of getting analytical with the failures of the Liberal Party. I think he just
00:19:20.660 needs to be extremely critical, but very sharply analytical in how he is critical. And that is
00:19:27.120 what is going to help him basically undermine the myth of Mark Carney as like the conservative
00:19:32.900 liberal. I don't think I can find this clip offhand right now. But Jonathan Wilkinson is a
00:19:41.200 Liberal MP from North Vancouver, Capilano. And on his way out, he was saying, yeah, I probably can't
00:19:49.140 find it right now. We covered it on the show previously. He was doing kind of like an exit
00:19:53.280 interview on the CBC, and they were asking him about the possibility of a pipeline being built.
00:19:59.360 Do you think Mark Carney is going to pursue a pipeline? Jonathan Wilkinson, a very green
00:20:04.900 Liberal, said, no, I think he'll do the right thing, and he's not going to hammer a pipeline through
00:20:09.420 in more words than that, but I'm paraphrasing. Have we seen Stephen Gilbeau, the guy who climbed
00:20:15.560 the CN Tower to protest oil and gas, saying that he doesn't like this plan? No. He's saying that
00:20:22.260 because he knows there's no pipeline coming from it. You would already have all the green activists 1.00
00:20:27.060 in the Liberal Party screaming bloody murder if this was actually going to result in a pipeline.
00:20:32.200 They're all oddly quiet because they don't actually think it's going to happen. It'd be like
00:20:37.440 It would be like if somebody who was against cutting spending in government was part of a government that announced it's going to do a bunch of spending reform, and this person didn't protest it at all.
00:20:50.180 They're part of the government. They are very anti-cutting any spending, but they didn't mention. They didn't actually say that they disagree with it. It's almost like they know whatever's going to happen is going to not be that impactful.
00:21:01.640 Anyways, with all that being said, thank you guys for watching this video.
00:21:07.140 Check out the live stream I just did earlier today with Francis Whittowson about the CBC entrapment scheme.
00:21:13.200 I thought it was an interesting discussion that we had.
00:21:15.720 You can get to the point where a random bee crawls on my face for some reason.
00:21:20.240 I don't know how a bee got into this room.
00:21:21.760 I'm in like a basement room filming this show, and a giant bumblebee started crawling on my face while I was talking to Francis Whittowson.
00:21:29.000 And at one point, I had to leave the thing just to kill it on the floor.
00:21:32.680 So one person said that no bees were killed in the making of that podcast.
00:21:36.960 There was a murder was committed, but I can tell you it was self-defense.
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