The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - October 16, 2024


Eby NDP loses support after begging for Greens votes (CPBC leads 5%)


Episode Stats

Length

15 minutes

Words per Minute

189.0823

Word Count

2,853

Sentence Count

175

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

David Eby's desperate plea to get BC Green voters to vote for the BC NDP has backfired spectacularly, with the party losing ground, the Greens gaining ground, and the Tories gaining ground in the polls.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 So yesterday I talked about British Columbia Premier David Eby's gambit to try and get
00:00:07.660 B.C. Green voters to cast a vote for the B.C. NDP to try and block the Conservatives from
00:00:13.380 winning a majority, which already was kind of a tell that he knows he's probably going to lose
00:00:18.520 the election unless that happens. And what I had predicted was that a lot of people are going to
00:00:23.700 see this as deeply pathetic. A man who doesn't really deserve to be in office himself just was
00:00:29.460 appointed to be the Premier, begging that other people show up and save him. And I was basically
00:00:35.620 proven to be right that a lot of Green voters almost reactionarily said, I'm just going to vote
00:00:41.500 Green even harder because you had the audacity to just ask me to save you. Not because you've done
00:00:47.980 a good job, but just because I should hate the other guys, which is a terrible pitch to make.
00:00:53.260 This was the post that he had put up that I had read the other day. This election is unlike any
00:00:58.060 we've seen before. For Green voters, John Rustad is a risk that we can't afford or can't ignore.
00:01:04.860 He supports conspiracy theories and hateful candidates, yada, yada, yada. And it's so
00:01:09.940 condescending talking to the Green voters that we can't ignore the risk that he's taking.
00:01:15.220 We, like I'm not a Green voter, I'm obviously very pro-conservative, but you don't start saying
00:01:20.900 we, when you're not with them. They don't vote BC NDP for a reason. This is also why every time
00:01:28.220 people freak out and think that the Liberals and the NDP federally could get together to try and
00:01:33.020 block pure polyofs, conservatives, and continue on with the terrible coalition government that we
00:01:38.460 currently have despite people not liking them. It's not going to happen because the federal NDP
00:01:43.020 and the federal Liberals are different parties for a reason. In fact, I think if the Greens just
00:01:48.420 disappeared, more of the voters would probably end up voting conservative than they would end up
00:01:53.460 voting NDP because we are in an atmosphere of a change election. People want change and they are
00:01:59.440 voting for whoever the incumbent is not. Even if they are not voting for the conservative,
00:02:04.000 they don't want the incumbent. So almost no matter what happens, I think people are going to force the
00:02:10.800 conservatives into government. That the conservatives could just say, we're not campaigning anymore.
00:02:15.160 We're all going to go to sleep, go on vacation. And I think the voters of BC are just going to push
00:02:20.100 them through regardless. And, you know, there is still a chance the BC NDP could win, a substantial
00:02:25.960 chance. I just think that it's mostly leaning towards the conservatives winning this election,
00:02:31.440 75% chance from my own back of the napkin math on what I think might happen here. Regardless, though,
00:02:38.740 now I want to show you the numbers of what has resulted from David Eby just begging green voters,
00:02:43.980 vote for us and not the other guys. And it has resulted in the NDP losing votes and the Greens
00:02:50.900 gaining. This is a poll that includes undecided and decided voters who are likely to vote.
00:02:57.380 So these 3% of undecided voters are likely to at least vote in this election. They just don't know
00:03:03.920 who to vote for yet. And the BC NDP are still floundering at 38%. In fact, yesterday's poll showed
00:03:11.860 them at 39%. And they've dropped back 1% and the Greens have gone up 1% from 10% to 11% or it might
00:03:19.240 have actually been like 9.5% to 11%. And the conservatives are still riding high at 42%.
00:03:24.520 I believe if I go down to only the decided votes, it's actually an even larger lead for the conservatives.
00:03:30.920 Yeah, so let's go up to the decided voters only. It's 44% for the BC conservatives, 39% for the NDP,
00:03:40.180 and 12% for the Green Party, with 5% saying that they will vote for another party, which includes
00:03:45.260 some of the independent people who used to be united MLAs running for re-election. Most of them
00:03:50.860 aren't even trying. Most of them are only running because if you lose as an independent, you get a
00:03:55.120 transition allowance over the next 18 months, rather than just saying, I'm not running in this
00:04:00.800 election again, you actually get a big payout. That's what motivates a lot of these people in
00:04:05.680 my mind, because a lot of them are in ridings where there's not even a chance that they're going
00:04:10.040 to get more than 5% of the vote. And they're not even going to be able to trip up one of the other
00:04:13.800 parties. It's a riding that's going blue. And they're just there so that they lose and then get
00:04:18.780 another couple thousand dollars every month for the next 18 months. But this has been just an
00:04:24.420 unmitigated disaster for EB. You never show weakness in an election. You never admit you've done anything
00:04:30.380 wrong. You don't do anything like that, unless it's just one of those situations where, yeah,
00:04:35.340 you accidentally, you know, rolled a red stop sign, everyone saw you do it, and you're like, I apologize.
00:04:39.760 That's kind of one of those moments where you actually admit to doing something wrong. But in election
00:04:43.760 time, every time you admit to doing something wrong, the media makes it seem like you're admitting to
00:04:48.340 being a liar, a cheat, and a fraud. So for the most part, politicians tend to say nothing. Although
00:04:53.740 we want our politicians to be more honest, the problem is our media is so dishonest that by being
00:05:00.200 honest, they will pretend that you are a horrible, terrible person and you admit it. Regardless, though,
00:05:06.900 EB looks like he's going to lose. And really, that is what looks like it's going to happen here.
00:05:12.180 I just want to show you the crosstabs right now for the 2020 vote, including some of the undecided.
00:05:18.340 It's terrible for David EB right now. Only 63% in this IVR poll, 448 people polled, who voted BCNDP in
00:05:28.640 2020 say they're voting BCNDP in this election. Only 16% of liberal voters from last election are
00:05:35.320 voting BCNDP. The conservatives are winning liberal voters better than the NDP are winning their own
00:05:41.340 2020 base. And the conservatives are winning more NDP voters from 2020 than the NDP are winning liberal
00:05:47.900 voters from 2020. It's so bad for David EB right now. It's again, it's just one of those elections where
00:05:55.080 simply put, people want change. And there's not enough strength to push the NDP back in with the
00:06:03.020 type of voter numbers that we've seen coming out. First day of advanced voting, it smashed the previous
00:06:09.920 record. The previous record was something like 123,000 people voted in the advanced polls in the
00:06:16.440 previous record holding year. This year, we have 171,000 people voting in the first day of advanced
00:06:23.460 polls. And the BC conservatives do not have a monster of a campaign machine, the way that the
00:06:28.500 BCNDP or BC liberals usually would. That's organic. That's organically people showing up because they
00:06:34.780 just don't like the current government. I even can show you the likely voter numbers in these polls,
00:06:40.900 showing that the people saying that they're likely to vote, but not certain to vote are mostly NDP.
00:06:46.080 And those saying that they're certain to vote or already voted are heavily leaning towards the
00:06:50.160 conservatives. And now I'm just going to stop here. And this might turn a little bit boring.
00:06:55.020 Apologies in advance. But I'm going to show you why the other polls showing 5% plus NDP, 4% NDP,
00:07:03.080 and they're showing the NDP ahead. They're very likely off. Main Street research is actually probably
00:07:10.900 pollsters. And I'm not just saying that because they're showing the conservatives ahead.
00:07:14.560 IVR polls in general have been shown to be better because they reach a more diverse group of people.
00:07:20.740 And where diversity actually matters is in things like polling, because you need to pull a lot of
00:07:25.520 different types of people to see where different ridings are at. And the NDP or the NDP pro polls,
00:07:33.040 the polls showing the NDP ahead, and some of these polls are run by the conservatives like Angus Reid.
00:07:37.260 The problem is that they're not rebalancing their numbers properly. So in Main Street polls,
00:07:42.900 what you'll often see is 50% of the people who responded have university bachelor degrees or
00:07:49.520 higher, so graduate degrees as well. Only about 35% of people in British Columbia have
00:07:54.540 bachelor degrees from universities. The most people either have high school or less, or they have
00:08:00.040 trades degrees or college degrees. Those two groups lean heavily conservative. You know,
00:08:05.380 not many sociologist type people in those groups. And so university educated people lean a little bit
00:08:10.920 more NDP, but they're a minority. But when it comes to polling, they're more likely to pick up the phone
00:08:16.560 and answer a poll. They might be a little bit more likely to vote, but they're not going to be 50% of
00:08:22.020 the electorate. So Main Street research tends to weight their sample down a little bit. It's just not
00:08:27.700 the type of people who are going to show up and vote on election day. Just because you're more likely to
00:08:32.220 take a poll doesn't mean you're more likely to actually vote. If that was true, apparently South
00:08:36.360 Asians aren't voting at all and the election is going to be 95% white people. It's just white people
00:08:40.940 tend to take polls and other groups maybe are smarter than us all and they don't take polls
00:08:45.360 because it's annoying. Regardless though, the other thing that Main Street has shown is that they do
00:08:51.320 riding specific polls where they do, they pull 250 people, 220 people in one specific riding, which is
00:08:58.080 actually a really good sample when we're just talking about a riding of like 40,000 people or
00:09:02.760 40,000 eligible voters. And what their individual riding polling is showing is that places like
00:09:10.000 Kelowna, Limby, Vernon Limby are going, Lumby I guess, they're very conservative. All the other polls
00:09:16.880 are showing the North and Interior regions as a neck and neck race between the Conservatives and NDP.
00:09:23.200 That's not reality. That's not reality at all. And not only is that not reality, this is the same
00:09:29.140 mistake so many pollsters had made back in Alberta's 2023 provincial election. They showed the NDP up and
00:09:36.360 that the NDP was really tight with the UCP when it came to rural areas. It's not true. It's not true.
00:09:42.780 The UCP blew it out in the rural ridings. And now in BC, we're seeing that, oh, wow, the NDP is doing
00:09:49.460 pretty well in the North and Interior. It's like they could end up winning some of these Kelowna
00:09:54.260 ridings. They're not going to win all the Kelowna riding. The Main Street Research just released two
00:09:59.020 Kelowna riding polls. The Conservatives are at like 47% in these polls. In the weakest of the Kelowna
00:10:04.720 ridings, they were at 47%. Based on other polling projections, the Conservatives should have lost one
00:10:09.960 of the Kelowna ridings. It's just not happening. It's just not an NDP part of the province anymore.
00:10:15.580 And so when we do more specific polling and we try harder to reach more people who are
00:10:21.180 electricians, plumbers, farmers, small business owners, the ridings are much more conservative
00:10:25.400 than you think. Online polling panels tend to have a lot more, you know, public sector employees
00:10:32.580 in them, younger people, and it waters down what the sample that you're getting. A lot more university
00:10:38.140 art students in those areas, in those online polls that are making everything look more NDP.
00:10:43.840 But I still urge you, make sure you go out and vote. Make sure all your neighbors went out and
00:10:48.560 voted. It's not like a time to be nervous. Should I ask them if they voted or not? Guys, it could
00:10:53.340 save the province to get your one neighbor to finally go and vote for the first time in three
00:10:59.100 decades. So make sure you do that. But we can feel pretty heartened in that all of the more accurate
00:11:05.280 indicators are showing that this could be a conservative walkover. So make sure you get out and vote.
00:11:11.560 Do all that fine stuff. But to get back to it, I think really, and this is my theory on elections,
00:11:18.760 you can't short circuit public opinion. Most of the campaigning that people do, the debates,
00:11:25.200 the door knocking, the leafleting, all this, it's very important, but it's also brought really can't
00:11:31.460 change people's opinions. Money can't buy votes in a very real way. Michael Bloomberg proved this,
00:11:38.980 Tom Steyer proved this in the 2020 Democratic primaries. They spent massive amounts of money,
00:11:43.880 spent way more than Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders. Nobody voted for them because they didn't want
00:11:47.900 them. And I think in British Columbia right now, although you can find some of the more
00:11:53.240 hyper-partisan people on the polls saying they're still voting NDP, does the mood really feel like
00:11:58.740 NDP people are running out of the house to cast a vote for David Evie? Not really. There's a heavy
00:12:03.820 apathy when it comes to the NDP side of things. The NDP wouldn't be pulling stuff like begging
00:12:08.420 green voters to vote for them or like what you see in these car parks where like dozens and
00:12:15.500 dozens of green and conservative signs have been all torn up and torched by people. You don't do that
00:12:20.440 if you're winning. I know it's just probably a crazy crank who's NDP doing that. It's not like
00:12:24.500 the party's organizing that vandalism. No one would be caught dead in a party actually organizing
00:12:29.240 vandalism. It's just a bad look. But that stuff wouldn't be happening if there wasn't the internal
00:12:34.460 polling desperation inside the NDP. It's going to be a slug match on election day, but I think that
00:12:39.840 when we all see it shake out, there's just going to be the kind of silent middle class voter who
00:12:44.020 doesn't answer the polls. They're not very political, but they're going to come out and say,
00:12:47.400 I just need the taxes lowered. I just need someone to crack down on crime. I need the drug policies cut.
00:12:51.600 You know, things like we need, you know, actual letter grades back in schools. That sounds fantastic to most
00:12:56.800 people because it's so pathetic that we've become a province where the only thing you look forward to
00:13:01.880 is what the government's going to announce in terms of new programs. Programs cannot build an economy.
00:13:08.280 And this is also why the Green Party fails so hard and the NDP fails so hard on the federal level.
00:13:13.900 At the end of the day, people understand that the economy actually needs to work itself. It can't have
00:13:19.420 basically commissars sitting behind desks down in whatever capital of your province or country
00:13:26.100 organizing where the growth is going to come from. The growth happens where it happens and the
00:13:31.020 government's pretty much along for the ride. And the NDP has decided that actually it's in charge
00:13:36.300 of the economy. It's not. And that's why everything keeps falling apart more. The NDP try and fix
00:13:41.920 everything back up because it's the government that's the problem after a while. The economy knows
00:13:47.160 what to do. The government just has to let the economy do what it's going to do.
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