The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - May 06, 2025


Elbows Down - Carney tricks Liberal voters and plays nice with Trump!


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Wyatt Claypool talks about PM Mark Carney's trip to Washington D.C. to meet with President Donald Trump and the media's reaction to it, and why it's a good thing it didn't go as badly as it did.

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here.
00:00:02.800 It's so funny to watch just how quickly Prime Minister Mark Carney and the Liberal government
00:00:08.080 went from elbows up during the federal election campaign
00:00:11.640 to elbows down, handshakes and chuckles with U.S. President Donald Trump.
00:00:17.080 It's almost like it was foolish to think that by electing the Liberal government into a fourth term
00:00:22.920 that they were going to get super aggressive on the Americans.
00:00:26.480 None of the parties were going to do that if they got elected.
00:00:29.120 If Pierre Polyev became the Prime Minister and he acted like Mark Carney did in D.C.,
00:00:35.280 the Liberal media would have a field day pretending like he had bent the knee
00:00:39.920 and look at him allowing Trump to have his way with Canada.
00:00:43.840 He's going to make us the 51st state any day now because Pierre Polyev didn't go down there
00:00:48.720 and try and like stab him to death like he's Caesar.
00:00:52.200 Mark Carney had a perfectly fine trip down to D.C.
00:00:54.800 His interactions with Trump were fine because it's almost like there's kind of a script
00:00:59.520 for how Canadian Prime Ministers are going to interact with the U.S. President no matter who the two figures are.
00:01:07.840 Canada, and I'm a Canadian patriot saying this, is not a very powerful country compared to the United States.
00:01:14.080 We have like a tenth of the population and I believe our economic power is actually less than a tenth of the United States.
00:01:20.080 So, obviously, when any Prime Minister goes down there, except for maybe someone as insane as Jagmeet Singh,
00:01:26.220 although he doesn't even have a seat anymore, there was never going to be a contentious interaction.
00:01:31.720 Now the media is trying to celebrate Mark Carney just simply telling Trump,
00:01:35.680 Canada's not for sale.
00:01:37.860 Okay?
00:01:39.100 Okay.
00:01:40.200 Anyone would have said that.
00:01:41.960 What would he expect that Polyev was going to be like, Canada is for sale, actually.
00:01:46.260 It just wasn't going to happen.
00:01:47.700 I want to show you guys some clips from their meeting today, both before the meeting, during the Oval Office meeting,
00:01:53.720 and then I want to show some stuff from Mark Carney's press conference by himself afterwards,
00:01:57.920 because even he in that press conference is kind of trying to spin it to his base that,
00:02:02.720 oh, I was thinking some pretty off-color things about Trump during that meeting.
00:02:08.260 Sure you were, dude.
00:02:09.620 Even if you were, who cares?
00:02:11.760 It doesn't mean anything.
00:02:13.100 I don't know how, as a liberal supporter who voted for these guys because they were going to stand up to Trump,
00:02:17.800 how you can put the square peg into the round hole on this one.
00:02:21.340 You just were fooled.
00:02:22.660 You voted in an election based off of a fake issue on who's going to stand up to Trump.
00:02:28.080 They all were.
00:02:29.000 They literally all were.
00:02:30.000 Even Elizabeth May would have done it. 1.00
00:02:32.260 And do you know how they're going to do it?
00:02:33.640 By being polite and negotiating over trade disputes, border security, military protection,
00:02:40.280 it was always going to be the exact same issues on the table that were going to be talked about in similarly patient and nice tones.
00:02:48.840 But here is Mark Carney and Donald Trump meeting outside of the White House.
00:03:03.640 Let's be clear.
00:03:09.320 Again, I'm going to repeat this a lot in the video.
00:03:11.980 I'm sorry if it makes me a broken record.
00:03:14.740 If Pierre Polyev did it, this would be turned into B-roll used for the next election campaign.
00:03:21.120 Look at him.
00:03:22.360 Shaking hands with Donald Trump.
00:03:24.440 Oh, he's, he's smiling.
00:03:28.420 He raised his fist in the air like Trump did.
00:03:31.360 He's taking directions from him.
00:03:32.720 He's a Manchurian prime minister.
00:03:35.280 But Mark Carney doesn't.
00:03:36.300 He's like, well, what do you expect?
00:03:37.300 This is how, how a prime minister and president are supposed to behave together.
00:03:40.340 Yes.
00:03:41.040 That's why I get so annoyed by this.
00:03:43.020 That's the funny thing.
00:03:44.020 There's nothing wrong with the meeting.
00:03:46.460 But what I dislike is the fact I know if this was Polyev and Trump, it would have been viewed in a very, very different way.
00:03:55.420 An extremely dishonest way.
00:03:57.840 I want to pull up this footage of Trump.
00:04:01.420 Trump congratulating Mark Carney on his victory.
00:04:03.740 Because, again, you thought you were voting for Carney as a liberal swing voter.
00:04:10.360 Some liberals are just hardcore liberals.
00:04:12.240 They really like the policy.
00:04:13.200 Fair enough.
00:04:13.580 More power to you for liking the party policy.
00:04:15.820 I don't think it's good.
00:04:16.800 I think it's been objectively bad for Canada, but whatever.
00:04:18.860 But for the swing voters who thought, I can't vote for Polyev, he's too friendly with Trump.
00:04:23.900 Trump likes Carney.
00:04:25.900 He has never dropped the bit.
00:04:28.020 And you could say, he was just saying this because you should be nice to a world leader.
00:04:30.820 But he's been saying it for months now, consistently.
00:04:34.000 There's been no pivot from Donald Trump here.
00:04:36.360 It's a great honor to have Prime Minister Mark Carney with us.
00:04:40.120 As you know, just a few days ago, he won a very big election in Canada.
00:04:44.920 And I think I was probably the greatest thing that happened to him.
00:04:48.300 But I can't take a vote.
00:04:50.360 They were.
00:04:51.140 His party was losing by a lot.
00:04:53.340 And he ended up winning.
00:04:55.280 So I really want to congratulate him.
00:04:57.020 He was probably one of the greatest comebacks in the history of politics.
00:05:00.460 Maybe even greater than mine.
00:05:02.020 But I want to just congratulate you.
00:05:05.640 That was a great election, actually.
00:05:07.320 We were watching it with interest.
00:05:08.840 And I think candidate Joe is a very talented person, a very good person.
00:05:12.880 Because we spoke before the election quite a few times.
00:05:16.400 And based on the rule of engagement, why is, again, Mark Carney not going to get in trouble for this?
00:05:23.460 Again, because Polyev would be getting into trouble for this.
00:05:28.260 Absolutely insane.
00:05:29.640 I want to talk about, like even Trump said, he did a great job in the debate.
00:05:33.860 Which is an insane thing to compliment Carney for.
00:05:36.440 Because if you were to name the one thing that Carney did a terrible job during in the campaign, it was the debate.
00:05:43.040 It was just a very weak performance.
00:05:45.080 In fact, it's probably why he doesn't have a majority government.
00:05:47.760 I would love that.
00:05:55.400 Look, I have a lot of respect for this man.
00:05:57.720 And I watched him come up, in a sense, through the ranks when he wasn't given much of a chance.
00:06:03.900 And he did it.
00:06:04.360 He ran a really great campaign.
00:06:05.660 He did a really great debate.
00:06:06.760 I think that debate was very helpful.
00:06:08.120 Well, I was going to raise my hand.
00:06:12.600 I don't know if that's good or bad.
00:06:14.020 I shouldn't say that.
00:06:14.960 That might hurt you.
00:06:16.580 But no, he ran a really great election, I thought.
00:06:19.200 And yeah.
00:06:19.780 And it won't hurt him, though, because the media is going to spin this.
00:06:23.220 I have already seen the spin, not just coming from liberal supporters online, but CBC and CTV News.
00:06:29.120 I'll bring this up.
00:06:30.160 I'll try to scroll and find it right now.
00:06:31.980 I kind of keep everything in my bookmarks.
00:06:33.960 I am not very professional.
00:06:35.820 But already, we have the media spinning this as, oh, Mark Carney said Canada's not going to be the 51st state.
00:06:43.500 He's not going to take guff from Trump.
00:06:45.780 He did.
00:06:46.380 He obviously took a lot of jokes and jabs during the press conference.
00:06:50.460 We got through the nice stuff.
00:06:51.600 We'll go to the not-so-nice stuff that Carney put up with, because what else are you going to do?
00:06:56.300 But Global News here says, Prime Minister Mark Carney told U.S. President Donald Trump that Canada is never for sale after the president once again mused about the U.S. taking over Canada during a high-stakes White House meeting on the future of Canada-U.S. relations, or the Canada-U.S. relationship.
00:07:13.760 Even, what is it, David Cochran from the CBC, if I can go grab that clip in a second here.
00:07:19.160 He was even saying, well, this is, don't expect much from this, from this interaction, because they're already spinning it as, don't worry about what's said in this meeting.
00:07:29.220 Don't look behind the curtain in the fact that Mark Carney obviously is not doing what he said he was going to do in the campaign, because it would have been ridiculous for him to do what he said he's going to do in the campaign.
00:07:38.340 It's just all low-stakes stuff right now.
00:07:40.540 Don't worry about it.
00:07:41.500 It's all fine.
00:07:42.680 It doesn't matter the fact that he's interacting with him the exact way Polly have said he'd interact with President Trump.
00:07:47.400 This is what elbows up means.
00:07:49.980 It means just being normal and being nice and patient.
00:07:54.740 This Ben Perrin guy even said this, and I find this so stupid.
00:07:58.860 Very proud to be Canadian, watching Prime Minister Mark J. Carney represent our country confidently, with moral clarity and with diplomacy and grace.
00:08:08.280 And I find it very telling that this man has all his comments off, but I just wanted to read this comment in the replies,
00:08:15.040 because it's so tiring.
00:08:18.700 This Abdul Nakah says,
00:08:21.180 Since Trudeau Sr., he might top the list in eloquence, competence, and capacity to clarity and grace.
00:08:28.960 He only is missing the flair that Trudeau Sr. was able to show, but that worked in his favor today.
00:08:35.480 They would have said this regardless of how the meeting went.
00:08:41.340 That is why I find it so fake.
00:08:43.400 I even don't like this when people just compliment Polly of all the time on stuff that was just okay, and they're like, that was brilliant.
00:08:49.080 Like, it was what you'd expect.
00:08:50.960 Let's go over to David Cochran and how he had set up this meeting, because, again, it's so stupid that we, that the news media is already knowing that he's going to have to make this big pivot,
00:09:03.100 and he's not going to go completely, you know, balls to the wall on attacking Trump.
00:09:08.280 This is David Cochran on power and politics covering the event.
00:09:13.120 Re-establishing a, you know, a proper working relationship between the prime minister's office and the presidency, given the state of things since November of last year.
00:09:28.300 But there is a, there is a real sense of anxiety, right, in that they believe, the Canadians believe, that they are serious and they are prepared,
00:09:35.000 but they are also walking into a meeting with the most unpredictable politician in the Western world.
00:09:40.880 And they have to be prepared for just about anything to happen there.
00:09:45.080 You know, they've got Melanie Jolie, the foreign affairs minister, is here.
00:09:48.640 Dominic LeBlanc, the trade minister, is here.
00:09:50.520 And David McGinty, the public safety minister, is here.
00:09:54.260 You know, Mark Carney, last week, when he gave that news conference, Rosie, on Friday,
00:09:57.840 he talked about the fentanyl tariffs at minimum or something that would mystify them.
00:10:02.040 You know, based on the presence of who's here and the fact that Carney raised that,
00:10:05.940 you'd think they'd, they would love to come out of this meeting with at least some movement on that.
00:10:11.080 But up to this point, no matter who you talk to, no matter how many times you ask,
00:10:14.400 it's a very low bar of expectations.
00:10:17.100 Like, it's the first face-to-face meeting since the election.
00:10:19.560 They want to restart things.
00:10:20.700 They want this to go well.
00:10:22.700 But they're just kind of bracing.
00:10:24.240 Because we've all seen some pretty dramatic moments happen when world leaders are sitting next to them.
00:10:28.520 It's just a low bar, a low expectation.
00:10:31.380 So don't assume there's going to be any fireworks with Mark Carney.
00:10:35.800 People should expect there should have been fireworks if they vote for Mark Carney based on every statement he made during the campaign.
00:10:42.420 All those times that he said, oh, well, Trump's not going to change.
00:10:46.260 And because he's not going to change, like, we're not going to change him by being nice.
00:10:51.740 So we got to get aggressive.
00:10:53.020 He made tons of statements, paraphrasing, of course, akin to that.
00:10:57.160 The idea that we can't be weak like peer-poly and conservatives.
00:11:00.200 We got to be strong.
00:11:01.140 And he just walks in there and does, again, what anyone would have done.
00:11:06.200 Let's jump over to this one where they talk about the tensions between the two countries in which, again,
00:11:13.720 it's just Mark Carney sitting there and taking it while Donald Trump says stuff that you'd probably,
00:11:18.700 if you're a liberal, would want him to correct.
00:11:24.540 Thank you very much, everybody.
00:11:26.480 It's a great honor to have...
00:11:27.960 Oh, this might actually be...
00:11:29.240 This is the long-form clip I don't want to play.
00:11:31.420 I'll play one of these other ones where they talk more about the not-for-sale part.
00:11:37.620 And here it is.
00:11:38.680 This is an actual liberal online talking head, a commentator, trying to spin this.
00:11:44.840 This guy, Fun Tom, says,
00:11:46.660 This is why Canadians chose Mark Carney, a smooth diplomatic mediator who can handle the bumbling bowl with finesse,
00:11:55.980 while at the same time making it clear that Canada is not for sale.
00:12:00.100 I knew he meant matador there.
00:12:02.040 I just realized that when he mentioned the bowl.
00:12:03.980 But I was reading that wrong.
00:12:05.640 But, like, what about this is, like, ooh, finesse.
00:12:08.540 It's just Trump making a comment and Mark Carney being, like, I guess Canada's not for sale.
00:12:14.280 And that's it.
00:12:14.760 But, as you know from real estate, there are some places that are never for sale.
00:12:19.840 That's true.
00:12:20.240 We're sitting in one right now, you know, Buckingham Palace, you visited as well.
00:12:24.200 That's true.
00:12:24.980 And having met with the owners of Canada over the course of the campaign last several months,
00:12:31.140 it's not for sale, won't be for sale ever.
00:12:34.480 But the opportunity is in the partnership and what we can build together.
00:12:39.780 We have done that in the past.
00:12:40.920 And part of that, as the president just said, is with respect to our own security.
00:12:46.520 And my government is committed for a step change in our investment in Canadian security and our partnership.
00:12:54.000 And I'll say this as well, that the president has revitalized international security, revitalized NATO,
00:13:01.000 and us playing our full weight in NATO, and that will be part of it.
00:13:06.100 I'm going to get to the other comment where he calls Donald Trump a transformational president.
00:13:10.940 Do you think, again, broken record Wyatt here, if Pierre Polyev said that Trump has revitalized NATO,
00:13:18.960 that that wouldn't spawn 50 opinion pieces saying that Pierre Polyev is a fascist and he's agreeing with Trump trying to destroy NATO?
00:13:28.780 No.
00:13:29.880 Obviously, they would have done that.
00:13:31.100 But they're not going to be doing it for Mark Carney.
00:13:33.760 What is this?
00:13:35.000 Like, I want to do the – I need to go find the transformational president clip.
00:13:39.500 It's ridiculous.
00:13:43.720 And so what we're going to be seeing out of this is that probably not much is going to change with the U.S.
00:13:50.140 Maybe we can get some tariffs negotiated over.
00:13:53.360 We drop some of ours and they drop some of theirs.
00:13:55.580 Really, the big problem here is that we still have supply management.
00:14:01.560 And so the U.S. has very good reason to always want – to be able to keep their tariffs in place unless Canada reduce or drop some of its supply management restrictions
00:14:11.340 that put tariffs on American products and any foreign product in certain categories.
00:14:15.920 That is probably going to be the end point here is Canada finally dealing with equalization.
00:14:22.180 And if we want free trade, we actually need to engage in real free trade with the U.S.
00:14:26.340 I don't like Trump's tariffs.
00:14:28.200 They're stupid, especially the ones on media.
00:14:30.760 That's as stupid as Canadian having CanCon rules where you have to play enough Canadian music,
00:14:36.320 you have to show enough Canadian shows on productions to be considered Canadian,
00:14:39.760 you have to hire a Canadian catering company, and you have to have a certain ratio of Canadian cast members and Canadian locations.
00:14:45.860 It's stupid.
00:14:47.380 And so the U.S. thing is stupid, but the Canadian thing is stupid too.
00:14:50.780 It's funny seeing liberals criticizing what Trump's doing, not even seeming to realize we've been having the same rules for years in our own country.
00:14:57.780 Thank you for your hospitality and above all for your leadership.
00:15:02.160 You're a transformational president, focus on the economy with a relentless focus on the American worker,
00:15:09.000 securing your borders, ending the scourge of fentanyl and other opioids.
00:15:14.700 Again, right there, if Polyev said that, the Canadian media would say that Polyev has caved in to Donald Trump's lies about fentanyl coming from Canada,
00:15:24.680 because he's saying that he's cracking down on fentanyl really well, and that's implying that everything he's been doing with Canada has been great.
00:15:30.800 They would absolutely say that.
00:15:32.620 And securing the world, and I've been elected with my colleagues here, with the help of my colleagues here,
00:15:39.500 I'm going to spread the credit, to transform Canada with a similar focus on the economy, securing our borders, again on fentanyl,
00:15:50.400 much greater focus on defense and security, securing the Arctic and developing the Arctic.
00:15:55.320 And the history of Canada and the U.S. is we're stronger when we work together, and there's many opportunities to work together.
00:16:02.220 And I look forward to addressing some of those issues that we have, but also finding those areas of mutual cooperation so we can go forward.
00:16:10.780 Maybe to not have to play too many more clips, I can kind of sum up some of the other ones that came out of this meeting.
00:16:18.000 But again, that's actually perfectly fine for Mark Carney to say, I will call balls and strikes.
00:16:22.900 I'm not going to pretend that Mark Carney was very weak or anything like that.
00:16:27.380 Could you say that he seemed weak to certain things that Trump was saying?
00:16:30.680 Sure, but that would be something that any Canadian prime minister would kind of have to, you know, knuckle back, knuckle under a little bit and take.
00:16:37.400 Because again, you're running a country with around 10% of the population and actually less than 10% of the economic power.
00:16:44.140 Naturally, how it works when your economy is both weak and you have a much lower population.
00:16:50.060 And so in this, though, it's still, again, the hypocrisy angle, the fact that the liberals ran on something they were never going to be able to achieve.
00:16:59.200 And people were even saying, if Mark Carney wins, he's not going to be the aggressive pit bull that you think he is against the U.S.
00:17:05.700 Because why would he be? It's stupid.
00:17:08.540 But another thing that ended up coming up in the meeting is the issue of tariffs.
00:17:12.540 Can we get some tariffs?
00:17:14.240 So when reporters asked Trump, is there any way that we're going to be able to negotiate tariffs off of Canada?
00:17:21.740 And he basically said, no, he doesn't want to have any more Canadian cars coming into the United States.
00:17:27.080 Which is, again, in my opinion, a foolish position because Canadian and American cars are one and the same things.
00:17:33.400 Because oftentimes they are prepared in Canada.
00:17:37.160 Many of, like, you know, the chassis are built here.
00:17:40.220 Where they're installed and some of the other minor pieces are put together in Canada.
00:17:45.600 And then they're shipped and either finished in the U.S. or started in the U.S. and finished in Canada.
00:17:51.580 It's stupid.
00:17:52.480 But at the same time, it's not like Carney said, hey, wait, slow down there, Mr. President.
00:17:57.240 Here's what we can do right now.
00:17:58.780 He didn't.
00:17:59.160 He just let it happen.
00:18:01.100 Because, again, that's kind of what he has to do.
00:18:03.260 I think there is an off-ramp to getting all tariffs off of Canada and the U.S. between one another in this relationship.
00:18:11.200 But it was never going to be through an aggressive route of tariffs and counter-tariffs.
00:18:17.400 Counter-tariffs are stupid.
00:18:18.540 It's just tariffing your own people. 0.71
00:18:20.360 It's taxing your own people to not buy American products as much.
00:18:23.460 Which means that your own people, if that American product was the cheaper option in a certain category, they're now having to pay either more money to buy the American product or having to buy the more expensive Canadian version.
00:18:34.400 It's stupid.
00:18:35.400 What you should do is just lower taxes.
00:18:38.300 I said in a video, maybe three videos back, that you just need to lower taxes.
00:18:43.340 It's like 80% of problems.
00:18:45.100 If you just lower taxes, everything works out.
00:18:47.760 But small businesses have to rely on too many temporary foreign workers because they're subsidized by the government.
00:18:54.760 Oh, well, you can't hire Canadians. 1.00
00:18:56.840 Just lower taxes and then they can.
00:18:59.120 But you'll then have people be like, oh, we need the TFW program or we can't survive.
00:19:02.900 How about you advocate for lowering taxes?
00:19:04.540 Why are you advocating for the Band-Aid solution of having subsidized foreign workers in order to replace Canadians? 0.80
00:19:11.320 Which it really still doesn't even lower your cost that much because you're still paying taxes to even subsidize those workers.
00:19:17.760 It's so asinine.
00:19:19.660 But now I want to jump over to the clips of Mark Carney after this press conference where, again, now he is attempting to seem like he is actually still a tough guy.
00:19:29.680 He's still going to go.
00:19:30.440 He's still going to stand up to Trump like he said.
00:19:33.400 He's not going to.
00:19:34.760 Check out this clip that Western Standard ended up posting just shortly after the visit.
00:19:40.500 I was watching your face through the meeting in the Oval Office and I wondered what was going through your mind when the president talked about re-erasing the artificial border and how he criticized your predecessor and Madam Freeland.
00:19:53.200 Oh, yeah.
00:19:54.620 And by the way, Donald Trump kept making 50 first state jabs in the meeting.
00:19:58.320 And that was the thing that Mark Carney was responding to by saying, oh, Canada's not for sale ever.
00:20:04.460 A very standard response.
00:20:06.780 What is this media question, too?
00:20:08.300 We're just having people ask, well, Mark Carney, what were you thinking in the meeting or whatever?
00:20:14.760 Were you thinking anything bad of Donald Trump?
00:20:16.880 Because they're trying to prop him up and give him opportunities to still strike back.
00:20:19.900 Uh, well, um, thank you for, I guess, for your question.
00:20:25.180 Um, I'm glad that you couldn't tell what was going through my mind, uh, as that was going through.
00:20:29.820 Um, look, the, um, with respect to, uh, the first, uh, point, um, the president has, uh, made known his wish, uh, about that issue for, uh, for some time.
00:20:44.580 Uh, I've been careful always to, uh, distinguish between wish and reality.
00:20:48.760 I was clear there in the Oval Office, as I've been clear, uh, throughout, uh, on behalf of Canadians, that this is never going to happen.
00:20:56.480 Canada's not for sale.
00:20:57.500 It never will be for sale.
00:20:58.980 Um, some things, as I said in the room, some things are never for sale.
00:21:03.740 Uh, and he agreed with that.
00:21:05.260 Uh, wow.
00:21:06.380 It's almost like it was never a serious position of Donald Trump.
00:21:10.100 It's almost like he just said that to get a rise out of Trudeau.
00:21:13.260 And now that Trudeau's not around anymore, you'll equip that at once in a while, but it's not actually on the table and obviously never was.
00:21:20.260 So, um, I distinguish between the two and then with respect to, uh, the importance of reestablishing a constructive relationship for negotiations of a, of a partnership of an economic and security partnership, which is what we were here for.
00:21:34.880 Um, I look forward, not back.
00:21:37.720 And, um, I think we established a good basis today.
00:21:40.460 I thought our relationship with the U S was over.
00:21:44.560 That's another thing he said during the campaign that our, our regular, normal, friendly relationship with the United States is over.
00:21:51.440 Donald Trump has ruined it.
00:21:52.620 We're going to, uh, this is all fighting words.
00:21:54.460 And he's saying, oh, it was a, it was a constructive talk between two sovereign, sovereign nations.
00:22:00.040 Yeah.
00:22:00.320 See this clip right here.
00:22:01.280 Uh, president Trump and I met today as leaders of two sovereign independent nations.
00:22:06.600 And I want to thank the president and the members of his cabinet that attended for welcoming me and my colleagues to the white house and for a very constructive discussions.
00:22:19.660 I conveyed to the president today.
00:22:22.460 What our countries have long proven to be true.
00:22:26.280 That Canada and the United States are stronger when we work together.
00:22:30.460 I thought the relationship was over again.
00:22:33.420 We can get a better deal for our workers.
00:22:36.600 We can create more opportunities for our businesses.
00:22:39.420 And even some of the stuff he didn't even agree to, he's actually sweetening it so much.
00:22:44.100 Be like, well, we agreed.
00:22:45.200 We can get a better deal for our workers.
00:22:46.920 He's only protecting American workers by putting in place protectionist policies as Canada has done for decades.
00:22:53.120 And both are stupid positions.
00:22:54.820 So no, they did not agree on that issue.
00:22:58.280 But again, so that is pretty much that meeting.
00:23:02.740 And the thing is, I wish the Canadian diplomats.
00:23:04.900 Well, I wish Carney's people well in trying to get a free trade deal.
00:23:09.380 I'm not sure if he's actually triangulating towards that because the liberals have always been the party that is secretly in favor of protectionism.
00:23:16.320 They're really big into supply management.
00:23:19.800 They're really big into subsidizing Canadian industry, whether it's the film industry, the media, auto, EVs, batteries, all this stuff, cricket farms, literally.
00:23:30.960 They've always been into big government, central planning of Canada's economy.
00:23:36.280 So that's the funny thing is they actually get along well with Donald Trump, who's also kind of a protectionist, because it gives the Canadian government an excuse to pick winners and losers like David Eby wants to do in British Columbia.
00:23:47.640 Just arbitrarily be able to say, that project's subsidized, that one's not, we're taking that product off the shelves, we're putting this one on, this natural resource project is approved, this wind farm's approved, that mine isn't.
00:23:58.620 I find it stupid, but whatever.
00:24:01.860 I wish them well.
00:24:03.020 Maybe they'll do some good stuff.
00:24:04.260 I don't have super high hopes, but I'm not going to just pretend that that was the worst meeting ever.
00:24:09.000 The thing that's aggravating is the fact that it was the most normal meeting I've ever seen, because it was always going to be normal, and the media is going to keep pretending that that was actually very well done by Mark Carney.
00:24:20.960 If Paul Yev did it the exact same way, every single word was said the exact same, they would have had a field day pretending he's a trader.
00:24:28.520 But anyway, so that should be it for this video, guys.
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