The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - January 13, 2026


Embarassing! Liberals FAIL AGAIN to get Conservative to cross the floor!

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Chris Dontremont Amarjeet Gill Corey Tanike Caroline Elliott Mark Miller Polyev Melissa Lansman Chalk Awe Scott Anderson Sean Fraser Dallas Brody Mark Carney Michael Ma Brittany Nate Erskine-Smith Jonathan Wilkinson Steven Guilbeault Steve McKinnon Trevor Halford Hotel Pacifico and 16 more
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In this episode, I discuss why the Liberals should just stop trying to get another MP to cross the floor and join them. At this point, they are doing it so often that they are getting embarrassed by the media and the public, and it s only going to make them look even worse.

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00:00:00.000 At this point, Prime Minister Mark Carney and the Liberals are just embarrassing themselves with their grand strategy of trying to get a majority government by coaxing MPs into crossing the floor and joining them.
00:00:13.500 One, it's just not going to happen. No MP at this point is going to cross the floor when Carney is having his own problems with his own Liberal MPs resigning their seats.
00:00:23.880 They've already had Chrystia Freeland resign, and in the next few months, I could see up to four Liberals actually leaving office to go do other things. 1.00
00:00:33.260 That being Nate Erskine-Smith, Bill Blair, Jonathan Wilkinson, and Stephen Gilbeau.
00:00:39.060 But the second thing I want to touch on today is the far more important reason as to why the Liberals should just desist.
00:00:45.940 Now, I'm a Conservative, and I just like analyzing the Liberal strategy out of just pure interest.
00:00:51.720 Don't worry, the Liberals will never take my advice.
00:00:54.940 But the second and bigger reason why the Carney Liberals just need to stop this is they're getting absolutely destroyed in the media.
00:01:03.640 Every single time the Liberals approach a new MP and ask them to cross the floor and make offers,
00:01:10.980 everyone in the public is going to know they made those offers and that they were rejected.
00:01:15.920 It's just making Carney look really desperate and incompetent.
00:01:20.200 The fact that he's approaching people like Scott Anderson to try and cross a floor just proves that his House leader, Steve McKinnon,
00:01:28.280 who's been heading up the strategy, has no clue what he's doing.
00:01:32.540 Scott Anderson is very Conservative, and their top prospect from the MVP, Laurie Idlout, just completely rejected them.
00:01:40.140 And that's a pretty far-left MP to try and bring into your government, which signals how unprincipled the Liberals are and that Carney's basically willing to pivot in any direction in order to get power.
00:01:51.960 But now today, the Liberals were rejected by another MP.
00:01:57.160 What is even the point of trying it for like a third time this week or fourth time and hope that you don't get embarrassed?
00:02:04.260 So the last guy they just approached here was Amarjeet Gill, and he put out a long statement about why he ended up rejecting them.
00:02:13.400 Well, why is that he's not a traitor and he doesn't want to cross the floor and join the government that he hates.
00:02:18.900 But I want to read it anyways, and then I want to talk about the few other options the Liberals may have to maybe get someone to cross and why it would be stupid for them to do it anyways.
00:02:29.280 But before I get into it, I just want to remind you guys to, you know, like, share, subscribe, do all that great stuff for the channel.
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00:02:57.180 But now let's get into the statement from Amarjeet Gill.
00:03:01.600 He said right here,
00:03:03.180 For some context, Amarjeet Gill is the Conservative MP for Brampton West, and the Liberals would be very interested in bringing him over because Mississauga, Brampton pretty much all went Liberal, except for Brampton West.
00:03:24.120 So I think they want their solid red wall back because the rest of the GTA area in that particular spot actually has a very solid chance of going blue.
00:03:35.420 The Conservatives just frankly need better candidates.
00:03:37.760 There was way too many appointments in that area.
00:03:39.880 Oftentimes, the people you appoint make themselves out to be important community leaders, and a lot of them end up being bullies.
00:03:47.140 They end up being sort of self-important, you know, community figures other people don't like.
00:03:52.220 You sometimes get Kalistani slipping in, and a lot of the Hindus will not show up for a Kalistani who thinks that, you know, maybe their lives are not worth as much as other human beings. 0.97
00:04:01.000 But you get my point.
00:04:02.540 This is an area of the country the Liberals could end up losing seats in.
00:04:07.440 But I'm going to keep reading this, but this is what motivates them to probably approach someone like Amarjeet Gill.
00:04:12.620 Amarjeet goes on to say,
00:04:13.780 I will always honor the trust my constituents at Brampton West have placed in me.
00:04:19.040 I was elected to be their strong voice in Ottawa, and I remain fully committed to representing their values and priorities.
00:04:25.360 I am proud to stand with our leader, Pierre Paglia, the next Prime Minister of Canada, and will continue to fight for the priorities that matter most to the people I represent.
00:04:34.000 I will continue to fight for safer streets and neighborhoods, jobs, affordable housing, secure borders, and stronger pay in a sovereign Canada.
00:04:43.660 And, you know, pretty simple response there from Amarjeet Gill into the Liberals or to the Liberals trying to get him to cross.
00:04:51.540 But again, Kalistani is not making himself look like a master strategist here.
00:04:56.440 He's looking desperate.
00:04:57.460 And although people always just say, well, it's legal, this is not illegal for Kalistani to be doing, it looks undemocratic. 1.00
00:05:05.340 Is it undemocratic? Is it breaking any rules? Not at all.
00:05:08.580 You can get people to cross the floor, but people are also allowed to react to people crossing the floor and feel like it's undemocratic,
00:05:16.120 and feel like they don't want that guy re-elected again because he broke their trust by switching parties and completely switching the agenda he was running on.
00:05:23.940 All these people crossing the floor are more likely to lose running as Liberals in the next election than they are as Conservatives.
00:05:32.140 One, people like consistency.
00:05:34.160 There's a reason why incumbents have an advantage.
00:05:36.800 People like consistency.
00:05:38.440 But if you're an inconsistent incumbent and you're fairly chaotic in terms of the decisions you make, like crossing the floor,
00:05:44.920 there's a good chance people are going to kick you out of office.
00:05:47.500 Now, I want to bring up this one post that the Conservatives made recently, and it demonstrates what they're also doing to make sure no one else leaves.
00:05:56.000 I can't think of anyone who would leave.
00:05:57.920 Like, the closest I can get is Chalk Awe in the Richmond area of British Columbia.
00:06:05.640 Chalk Awe previously had a run for the BC NDP in a provincial election back in 2018 or so.
00:06:11.760 I think it was 2018.
00:06:13.720 He ended up losing, naturally, since he's not a sitting provincial MLA for the NDP.
00:06:18.280 But he then ended up running for the Conservatives, getting the nomination, and he won.
00:06:22.580 Now, you could say maybe that guy in a riding where, naturally, you get more CCP influence may end up having the incentive to cross the floor.
00:06:32.160 However, even then, and I'm not saying that this is what's on Chalk Awe's heart, I'm just looking at the, you know, stereotypes of what the place is like.
00:06:40.980 You have a Chinese MP in an area where the CCP puts a lot of pressure on it, a guy who used to run for a more left-wing party.
00:06:47.580 He's probably first-round draft pick to make him cross the floor.
00:06:51.020 But it's just become such a conservative area.
00:06:54.000 It's just not going to happen.
00:06:55.120 And maybe Chalk Awe is a super conservative guy, and back in 2018, he was running for something he used to believe in, and now he's super conservative.
00:07:02.960 I'm not trying to cast any aspersions.
00:07:04.540 I'm just looking at the facts on the ground and seeing that that would be something they would also go after.
00:07:09.240 He's also simultaneously sitting as a councillor in Richmond.
00:07:14.240 And unless the Conservatives pressure him to drop that thing, I think he's probably pretty happy in the salary he's earning between those two positions.
00:07:21.600 But even that guy, with all of those things that would maybe indicate that he would cross the floor, I just don't see it.
00:07:29.740 Because, again, you're not even giving the Liberals a majority if you end up, you actually do end up crossing the floor.
00:07:35.340 So it's a complete non-issue.
00:07:37.340 It's not going to gain you anything.
00:07:39.220 And then also, I think he would actually lose re-election if he made the attempt.
00:07:43.960 I'm trying to find this here.
00:07:45.140 There's a piece of information floating around social media that I found quite interesting also in terms of the Conservative strategy to make sure nobody crosses if they were even thinking about it.
00:07:56.600 They're going to be holding a rally out in Chris Dantremont's riding of Acadianapolis.
00:08:03.140 I'm trying to find the post that they made about that.
00:08:05.800 This is one of those things where Wyatt's unprepared.
00:08:11.800 It's on having to scramble to find this stuff now.
00:08:14.700 Do we have this here?
00:08:16.320 But on the 13th, tomorrow in Acadianapolis, they will be holding a rally.
00:08:21.120 And that will be putting some pressure on Chris Dantremont.
00:08:25.320 And no doubt they will then be following up and holding rallies in Michael Ma's riding of Markham Unionville.
00:08:31.380 I don't need to bring up the post.
00:08:32.800 But the whole point is the Conservatives are going to be putting a lot of activist pressure in those areas, which will make those two individuals completely unelectable.
00:08:40.880 Because, again, Chris Dantremont still won that riding as a Conservative.
00:08:44.520 Yes, by only 1%.
00:08:45.660 But that was an election where the NDP got 10% less than they usually do in that riding.
00:08:50.880 And the Liberals still didn't win.
00:08:52.480 And that was what I would call an overperformance for the Liberal.
00:08:56.080 And you're even going to be having people like former MP Rick Perkins backing up Polyev.
00:09:00.340 He's running for re-election.
00:09:01.400 You already have some of the Conservatives who lost their re-elections ready to run again and ready to also help eliminate Chris Dantremont in that riding.
00:09:10.480 It's not like Nova Scotia has become a completely red zone now and the Conservatives don't have infrastructure.
00:09:16.340 They don't have to have any ridings they hold in order to raise money and start leafleting doors and getting voters identified.
00:09:22.780 If anything, voters are very happy for the Conservatives to be at their doors because they want to be on whatever list they need to to make it more likely to get Chris out.
00:09:31.360 And now I want to show you another thing.
00:09:33.840 This is completely beside the point of all the floor crossing.
00:09:37.560 I'm just predicting the Liberals are either going to have to drop this issue or they are going to continue making themselves look bad as more people reject them.
00:09:47.360 I said this in a previous episode and it's true.
00:09:49.740 I had heard the Liberals thought they could get Melissa Lansman. 0.97
00:09:52.360 You're not getting Melissa Lansman.
00:09:55.720 There are so many names I've heard floated out there.
00:09:58.320 Oh, this person might leave.
00:10:00.440 The person was never considering it.
00:10:02.400 It's more so that that's the Liberal rumor that they can maybe get this person to leave.
00:10:06.340 And the names you hear floated are nonsensical.
00:10:09.760 Like Melissa Lansman, Michael Chong, like Greg McLean.
00:10:14.500 People who are not leaving.
00:10:16.320 There's no other way for me to say it, but they are not leaving.
00:10:19.000 Could there be some guy with really some person unknown to us who's super unscrupulous who ends up crossing?
00:10:27.480 Sure.
00:10:28.140 But it's not going to be how the media is spinning it that people are mad at Polyev and they're leaving for principled reasons.
00:10:34.860 Chris left because he didn't get to be deputy speaker.
00:10:37.220 Michael Ma left because who knows?
00:10:39.280 He's been an MP for seven months and suddenly he thinks that Mark Carney is a super steady unifying figure.
00:10:44.820 As if he actually believes that.
00:10:46.300 Clearly he doesn't. He was just leaving for other reasons that are completely unknown to us.
00:10:51.240 No policy reasons.
00:10:52.640 He was just criticizing the Liberals' policies like two weeks before he left and he was hanging out at the Conservative Christmas party.
00:10:59.940 Unless there's some other guy who fits the description of those two and I can't name one.
00:11:03.980 It's just not happening.
00:11:05.660 But here's just a couple more things I wanted to comment on that have nothing to do with this that I find funny.
00:11:09.620 So the other day it came out that maybe Canada would consider banning the Platform X because the UK I believe is thinking about it and they had confirmed in their like at their prime minister's residence or in wherever they were meeting that the UK government has been speaking with the French government and the government of the UK and or and or the UK was talking to France and Canada.
00:11:34.300 And they had all agreed that we should probably think about banning X now the UK government was probably overstating the agreement that they ended up getting Evan Solomon who's like the minister of like innovation and AI.
00:11:47.680 He said contrary to media reports Canada is not considering a ban of X.
00:11:51.540 And I actually kind of believe them I don't think the Liberals at this point are stupid enough to ban X if they did that they would get wiped out in the next election and the ban would probably not even go through because again you don't just ban things overnight the Canadian government doesn't just sign a letter and it gets banned they'd have to push legislation on this it would take months to go through Parliament and in that time every single user of X pretty much would be against this. 0.80
00:12:15.820 Except for people like Rachel Gilmore who right here said why not question mark question mark question mark question mark question mark question mark a lot of question marks from her. 0.64
00:12:27.100 Her and people like Dean Blundell and other far left hacks were supporting the idea of banning X and my friend Brittany here commented back at Rachel and I just found this funny.
00:12:38.580 Lol babe why are you here paying for premium then and later in another post Brittany found out that yes Rachel Gilmore is indeed also enrolled into the subscription program of X where people can give her money every month in order to see exclusive posts from her and she also gets monetized. 0.96
00:12:59.260 So she hates X at the same time she's using every feature possible to try and make money on X make it make sense. 1.00
00:13:06.000 She'll probably have some far left justification like oh I'm using the tools of my oppressor against them or whatever.
00:13:12.940 No she's just she's just a loud mouth. 1.00
00:13:15.700 I also want to comment on this because there was this very encouraging article that came out about pure poly of like I'm not like on the fence about him I think he's a good leader and I hope that he stays on at the convention I'll be voting if I can vote.
00:13:28.280 I think I'm an alternate so I probably won't be able to vote but one of the delegates for my riding drops out and I'm picked to replace them.
00:13:34.440 I vote to keep pure poly on a poly of on as conservative leader I think he's been doing a pretty good job I think he strengthened his message where he needs to since the last election and I couldn't really name anyone who could be doing a better job than him at this point.
00:13:48.440 But this article came out from the National Post and it said Polyev says he would build pipeline against First Nations objections and that is a very good thing.
00:13:59.420 One what First Nations objections there are none.
00:14:03.420 Oh oh band councils activists run band councils activists run third party organizations claiming to represent First Nations people don't like pipelines.
00:14:11.280 Okay I don't care and no one else should care these are not First Nations groups and even if they were I'm sorry we don't base if we build a pipeline or not based on if an ethnic group likes it and even then by the way everyone in that group is an individual and we should treat them like individuals not like a collective and even if you do care what they all think as a collective if you pull them most of them are in favor of building a pipeline.
00:14:35.200 But I like that position Polyev took but one of the federal liberal ministers Mark Miller the failed minister of I believe he was minister of immigration after Sean Frazier who is somehow now the attorney general Sean Frazier is not Mark Miller but Mark Miller came out and said great way to get absolutely nothing built.
00:14:56.780 And my party leader in British Columbia the leader of the 1BC party Dallas Brody responded to this and I thought this was a great response she said BC's provincial government and Canada's federal government are run by people who think that bypassing the endless consultation process is somehow going to make things less likely to get built.
00:15:17.040 A very one plus one equals zero take from Mark Miller 1BC is the only party in British Columbia that will get major projects and pipelines built by ending the endless consultations and repealing the reconciliation industry legislation like DRIPA.
00:15:32.320 This is just a shameless plug now for 1BC.
00:15:35.420 You guys should go check out the website in the description below.
00:15:38.780 The BC conservative leadership race is going on right now.
00:15:41.940 I know some people are going to be interested in who's going to run it.
00:15:45.040 Maybe if a conservative wins, I'll go back and vote for them.
00:15:48.140 I don't see it happening at this point.
00:15:50.800 Yeah, depending on in the next election, maybe depending on the riding, you could vote conservative.
00:15:56.280 But if you want anything changed, 1BC definitely needs to be in any provincial legislature, making sure people actually stick to what they promise, because the BC conservatives have not been good at that.
00:16:07.800 But do you know what just happened in the BC conservative leadership race?
00:16:12.760 That's really, really insane.
00:16:14.620 So one of the candidates to replace John Rustad, or I guess replace the interim leader, Trevor Halford, literally just hired an anti-Pirapalyev Doug Ford strategist.
00:16:29.020 This was being advertised like it was an exciting, good thing by this podcast he appears on, Hotel Pacifico podcast.
00:16:36.600 It's run by a lot of people who see themselves as political strategy gurus, and you look at the numbers of their videos and nobody watches them.
00:16:44.620 But here, Hotel Pacifico reports, breaking, Corey Tanike announces move to British Columbia to manage Caroline Elliott's campaign for the leader of the BC conservative party.
00:16:57.340 Corey Tanike is the guy up there in the upper third.
00:17:00.500 I'll play this video, and then I just want to talk a little bit about this.
00:17:03.480 But this is why I do not have any confidence in the BC conservatives to pick somebody good, because Caroline Elliott is considered one of the more conservative people.
00:17:13.480 Yes, is she literally the sister-in-law of Kevin Falcon, the former BC liberal, BC United leader?
00:17:20.440 Yes.
00:17:21.220 Was she a ride-or-die BC United person who was like the president of the party?
00:17:25.660 Yes.
00:17:27.020 But somehow she's going to save us, guys.
00:17:29.280 But here is Corey Tanike announcing that he's going to be her campaign manager.
00:17:33.580 Okay, Corey, you got a hey-you?
00:17:34.820 Yeah, it's kind of an unconventional one.
00:17:38.500 I'm going to throw a hey-you out to all the people of British Columbia.
00:17:42.240 I'm going to be moving out to your fair province for a period of time to go back into the campaign management business.
00:17:52.120 I'm going to be managing Caroline Elliott's leadership campaign, the leadership of the BC conservative party.
00:17:59.860 And so I'm going to be relocating to Vancouver.
00:18:04.280 Well, that's very good for Caroline Elliott that she's getting herself a Doug Ford liberal as her campaign manager. 1.00
00:18:11.300 Maybe he's also going to get a fake job at without diminishment to be able to make up for his expenses.
00:18:17.400 Like, my goodness, come on, guys.
00:18:19.600 Like, I've seen this.
00:18:20.280 Like, Yuri Fulmer, who's running.
00:18:21.780 I saw him make a comment at some point where he's like, oh, well, we need to invite more BC liberals in.
00:18:28.020 We need to make sure more of the BC liberals come over to our party.
00:18:31.520 Like, guys, the BC liberals are why nobody likes the current party.
00:18:35.060 There's too many BC liberals around.
00:18:36.680 And then he talked about how we need more discipline with our messaging.
00:18:40.580 Too much messaging discipline is the BC conservative's problem.
00:18:43.800 Nobody's allowed to say anything, ever, for any reason, ever.
00:18:48.280 Because it might cause something to happen.
00:18:50.960 And something happening is, for some reason, our greatest fear in BC conservative politics.
00:18:57.420 That's why 1BC is fun.
00:18:59.100 You can say things that people agree with.
00:19:00.640 You can try and move the political atmosphere of the province in a more rightward direction.
00:19:06.860 You know, we've actually gotten stuff done.
00:19:08.880 You know, the documentary Making a Killing has been doing very, very well.
00:19:12.360 It's over 460,000 views at this point.
00:19:15.520 1BC, despite only existing for, like, three or four months in the public eye,
00:19:19.360 has 7% in the polls, only a couple points below the BC Greens.
00:19:23.700 We're expanding pretty hard right now.
00:19:25.860 We actually have a pretty decent budget at this point in order to compete with the other parties.
00:19:30.820 But, like, don't worry, guys.
00:19:32.780 Conservatives are going to coax you back because we now have Corey Tanike working for one of the supposedly more conservative candidates.
00:19:39.800 Can't make it up.
00:19:42.200 Anyways, with that all being said, thank you guys for watching.
00:19:45.260 And thank you for putting up my rambling about stuff happening in British Columbia.
00:19:48.840 If you want to check out what's going on with the 1BC party,
00:19:51.740 I will be linking the website in the description below,
00:19:54.080 as well as Dallas Brody's Twitter account.
00:19:56.380 Hers is the more exciting one to follow,
00:19:58.380 although I think the 1BC HQ account is pretty good as well.
00:20:02.180 But with that all being said, thank you guys for watching,
00:20:05.360 and I will see you all later.