The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - Freedom Coffee Livestream ｜ EP#199 ｜ New Blue Ontario Jim Karahalios

00:00:00.000 But I first wanted to start with something that you don't talk a lot about.

00:00:06.180 And that's the fact that before politics, before going to law school, you went to school for engineering.

00:00:13.520 And as Jordan Peterson said, when we were in a private call, the three of us together, he said, oh, finally, a politician who's had a real job.

00:00:23.040 And I thought that was fascinating.

00:00:25.060 So why don't we start with that?

00:00:26.320 Let's just a couple of minutes on your background before you got into politics. 1.00

00:00:31.760 Yeah, I kind of stumbled into law school.

00:00:36.500 I still don't know why I went to law school.

00:00:38.320 I guess politics had some of it, some something to do with it.

00:00:41.460 And being a lawyer doesn't help with anti-establishment voters.

00:00:46.260 So when we go out speaking at events, I usually ask for forgiveness for being a lawyer.

00:00:53.700 And I say my wife forgave me.

00:00:55.240 My wife Belinda forgave me.

00:00:56.680 So hopefully you can all forgive me too.

00:00:58.260 But I did an undergrad in civil engineering.

00:00:59.980 And then I went to into the master's program in civil engineering.

00:01:05.460 And then from there, I went to law school against the wishes of my dad, because my dad, my late father, I think he would have preferred if I did a PhD or something serious.

00:01:17.960 Not law school.

00:01:19.600 But I don't know.

00:01:21.080 I guess when I was in engineering, I was more interested in who were making the rules on all the safety factors and government mandates on whether it was buildings or the transportation system or environmental policy that was starting to take up a lot of space in university discourse.

00:01:41.460 I was like, who's making all these rules?

00:01:43.380 Who's making this like Kyoto Accord and stuff on emissions?

00:01:47.820 And that kind of drove me to law school.

00:01:49.560 But the engineering doesn't really fit in the political world, because in engineering, you're taught to think right and wrong.

00:01:58.460 Well, it's so true in politics, there's no right and wrong, like in politics with the establishment parties, especially it's like you go in there and you start talking logically, like, hold on, hold on a second.

00:02:14.600 Like, the conservative parties against the carbon tax, but they voted for the Paris Accord, hold on, like, you can't have that logical analysis in establishment political parties.

00:02:29.300 So that was probably like the beginning of the end for me in establishment politics.

00:02:34.040 I was just like 15 years behind.

00:02:36.080 It took me 15 years to figure it out.

00:02:37.920 But they had me labeled really early on when I started volunteering in the conservative party.

00:02:42.180 And it was in engineering that I got my first bite into politics, because I got involved in student politics in undergrad.

00:02:50.040 And we kind of cleaned house.

00:02:51.680 That's like the thing we say.

00:02:54.500 But, you know, it was right in the days of Mike Harris.

00:02:59.640 And I got involved in student government in the engineering department.

00:03:05.040 There's like a couple million dollars of cash flowing through the student council.

00:03:08.320 They were just burning it through, you know, pub nights and this and that.

00:03:12.900 The money wasn't going to the student clubs.

00:03:15.340 So a group of us went in.

00:03:16.620 We cleaned house.

00:03:18.300 And then they started calling me Mike on campus because they thought I was like Mike Harris.

00:03:24.140 So that was.

00:03:25.520 So at that point, I didn't even know I was a conservative.

00:03:28.460 At that point, I had no idea.

00:03:29.860 Right, left, conservative, liberal.

00:03:31.680 Like, I didn't understand politics at all.

00:03:34.300 I was a math, science guy.

00:03:35.600 I it wasn't until I went to law school when I realized I'm probably a conservative, because

00:03:40.720 in law school, I was saying what I thought were pretty mainstream opinions from where

00:03:44.500 I grew up in North York.

00:03:46.740 And they were calling me, you know, George Bush lover, Jesus boy, just the most awful things

00:03:52.400 in law school classes.

00:03:53.660 The profs hated me, not all of them, but a lot of the left wingy profs didn't like me.

00:03:59.300 And then I was like, all right, you guys think I'm a conservative.

00:04:01.460 I might as well go with that.

00:04:02.380 I was giving conservative opinions that I thought were just normal, normal, like what

00:04:11.220 most people would think is just mainstream stuff.

00:04:13.600 But in the law school context, when they're rabid left wingers looking for the next Marxist

00:04:18.460 revolution, normal discourse they would categorize as very far right.

00:04:24.180 Yeah, math, science and logic.

00:04:27.560 I don't know what you're thinking, trying to bring that into politics, but yeah, it's definitely

00:04:32.540 no one told me.

00:04:35.460 Well, I guess my dad kind of warned me, but I didn't listen to him.

00:04:38.900 Yeah. 0.99

00:04:39.020 I often kind of say the some of the dumbest people I've ever met in my life are all in 0.99

00:04:44.940 politics. 1.00

00:04:47.180 Yeah.

00:04:47.640 Go, go ahead.

00:04:48.460 Yeah.

00:04:48.980 And in addition to that, you know, it's approximately 30 percent of people don't have a sense of

00:04:54.400 humor and they're also all in politics as well.

00:04:57.140 Right.

00:04:57.680 Well, that's not a coincidence, though.

00:04:59.080 Right.

00:04:59.260 Because the lobbyists that control the parties.

00:05:02.240 Yeah.

00:05:02.840 When they green light candidates to run for nomination, they don't want strong willed people

00:05:07.880 and they don't want people that can that are very good speaking to a crowd off the cuff

00:05:15.100 kind of thing.

00:05:17.820 They want people that, you know, we're going to give you the script.

00:05:20.860 You're going to say what we tell you.

00:05:23.120 You're not going to have the courage to stand up.

00:05:25.300 Um, and they kind of force, um, independent, critical thinkers with a little bit of courage

00:05:33.260 out early.

00:05:35.120 And, um, they definitely tried to push me out several times through various organizers in

00:05:43.420 the back and lobbyists.

00:05:44.640 And the more they kind of push, the more I, I just kept getting involved.

00:05:51.280 Like, I, I don't know, there was just something about it that I just, I just ignored that person

00:05:56.520 and said, you know, why am I going to take that person's insult?

00:06:00.140 Um, a lot of the insults came from like these organizers that profess to be social conservatives

00:06:05.020 or pro-life.

00:06:05.980 They don't, they especially the pro-life and social conservative organizers in the PC party

00:06:12.880 and the conservative party do not want independent thinking, courageous conservatives in those

00:06:20.880 parties that can organize groups of people on their own because then they can't control

00:06:26.480 that person.

00:06:27.100 Right.

00:06:27.920 So they always go and manufacture someone, uh, who appears to be, you know, strong conservative,

00:06:35.680 a Christian pro-life.

00:06:37.740 It's usually just kind of some phoniness and they manufacture some, you know, event that

00:06:45.260 pops up in the media that a lot of people get drawn to.

00:06:48.920 And now look at that courageous soul and let's rally behind them.

00:06:53.500 And then they kind of have that group caught for a few years while that person stays popular.

00:06:58.080 But anyone who's like an independent thinker that tries to get involved and knows how to

00:07:02.460 organize on a campaign side, they get pushed out.

00:07:05.480 And so for me, the way they pushed me out when they tried to, um, insult me, yell at

00:07:11.920 me, curse me, uh, that never really worked.

00:07:15.700 Cause you can just keep getting involved on the local scene.

00:07:18.120 So eventually what they did is just, they threw me out and publicly humiliated me.

00:07:22.740 Um, or tried to, but they, you know, the, the, on the PC side, it was Patrick Brown's

00:07:29.000 team sued me and they lost in court and then Doug Ford's team rigged the convention against

00:07:34.940 me when my wife was still an MPP.

00:07:37.180 And then I ran federally for the conservative party and Patrick Brown's team was running

00:07:41.440 Aaron O'Toole's campaign.

00:07:43.240 Half of the Brown team was running O'Toole's.

00:07:45.360 The other half was running McKay's team.

00:07:48.240 And, um, that's when I think they figured, uh, no, that's not when they figured, I know

00:07:55.180 they realized then that, um, okay, he can organize because they, that was the first election in

00:08:01.920 Canadian, uh, first leadership campaign in Canadian, uh, history with such a high entry

00:08:09.880 fee where they jacked it from a hundred thousand to 300.

00:08:13.580 And it was outrageous at the time.

00:08:16.040 And I remember they were doing that because they thought no one, but McKay and O'Toole and

00:08:20.660 a couple of the people they, um, you know, manufactured to run could reach it.

00:08:26.120 And, and, um, I learned after the fact that they let me in the race because they thought

00:08:31.280 I wasn't going to raise the money and we raised it in about four to six weeks.

00:08:35.800 And that's when they kicked me out of the leadership and, um, we sued them.

00:08:40.540 We won the judge, put me back on the bow and then they kicked me out the next day again.

00:08:44.060 And at that point in time, we're past the membership cutoff.

00:08:46.840 Derek Sloan was out there campaigning, ripping my campaign off so he could keep as many of

00:08:53.180 the conservatives in the party to help O'Toole beat McKay.

00:08:56.700 And then you reached out actually, because it was over, uh, it was over, um, um, was over

00:09:05.540 an issue that we agreed with, um, and you reached out and we connected and that, yeah, that was

00:09:11.380 a pretty low point in time for me and, um, yeah, you're a great support.

00:09:16.000 So thank you for that.

00:09:16.900 So, uh, yeah, ever since then, we've known each other.

00:09:19.920 I had no idea who you were before that.

00:09:21.760 Yeah.

00:09:22.240 It's really interesting because we were both involved in politics, but on kind of different

00:09:29.360 wings.

00:09:30.480 It's not necessarily that we were in contravention with each other.

00:09:34.400 Like I'm very libertarian, um, and you have a lot of libertarian leanings on fiscal issues.

00:09:40.000 You're more social conservative than I am, but I'm not hostile towards social conservatives.

00:09:44.320 Just, we were, we're, we had some commonality, but we're working things from opposite ends of

00:09:49.620 the spectrum.

00:09:51.040 And so I didn't really know you cause we never, our paths never crossed.

00:09:55.700 They never really had to.

00:09:56.720 Uh, and, uh, when I saw, you know, what they did to you, like I was, I was so pissed, uh,

00:10:05.520 because there are a lot of us across the country that were inspired that finally, finally, like

00:10:11.280 Trump, finally, somebody is reading the room of everything that we're all thinking and isn't

00:10:18.640 afraid to speak it.

00:10:20.460 And what did they do?

00:10:21.100 They shivved you as soon as they could. 0.99

00:10:23.620 And, uh, you know, that's, that's what politics is made up of in, in Canada is really frustrating.

00:10:30.520 And then to add insult to injury, you know, we connected very quickly.

00:10:35.600 I remember we went to, for coffee on Danforth, you know, your family being Greek, me living

00:10:41.800 in the neighborhood and, um, you know, you were diagnosed with cancer. 0.95

00:10:48.100 And what I found just horrifying about the garbage that is in establishment politics, 0.66

00:10:55.580 and this is for regular people who are watching this, you know, you had people that you had

00:11:02.160 been friends with for 15 years that were very close to you, that came to your wedding, that

00:11:08.460 didn't even have the decency to call you and say, Hey Jim, how are you?

00:11:13.080 They just, I know.

00:11:14.460 I remember when I met you for coffee, my right leg was in pain.

00:11:18.200 I was like limping.

00:11:19.620 And I drove from Cambridge down to the Danforth.

00:11:22.200 I had another meeting in Toronto.

00:11:23.900 I met you on the Danforth after.

00:11:25.220 And, uh, it was right after the, um, lawsuit, uh, had concluded itself and I got put on the

00:11:34.620 ballot.

00:11:34.860 I got disqualified again.

00:11:35.820 I was out and then I was wrapping up the campaign and I was limping.

00:11:40.680 And then a few weeks later, it turned out that that was, um, um, I guess it took me till

00:11:47.540 the fall to figure out, um, through scans and stuff that it was a tumor in my leg.

00:11:52.080 Like, and, um, at that point in time, I'd already upset those former friends because

00:11:57.920 how dare I run for leader of the Conservative Party of Canada without asking their permission.

00:12:02.720 Like, how dare you, Jim?

00:12:05.480 And, um, yeah, I realized those people weren't really friends at the end of the day and the

00:12:11.200 Conservative Party and the PC party, they're like a cult, right?

00:12:14.620 So if you're in and you do what they say, then you're okay.

00:12:18.820 But if you dare, um, and when I say do what they say, that includes, they dump on you and

00:12:26.600 you just take it.

00:12:27.780 Right.

00:12:28.320 So, um, and that's probably why they didn't want me involved from the beginning.

00:12:33.140 Cause they knew that I, that's not just, I wasn't raised like that.

00:12:36.640 Like, I don't, uh, you don't just dump on me and then I take it so that you could pat

00:12:41.840 me on the head and say, you're a good boy, um, and those, you know, people like us sooner

00:12:48.320 or later, you get pushed out of the party.

00:12:51.000 Um, um, and then, um, we started the new blue shortly after you and I met for coffee.

00:12:59.780 Like we announced that we had registered the name, but you're forgetting, but you're forgetting

00:13:04.000 something right in between.

00:13:05.480 What's that?

00:13:06.120 Which was, cause remember a lot of people who are watching this may not be familiar with

00:13:10.200 you, that your wife Belinda was a member of provincial parliament at the same time.

00:13:15.900 I didn't forget that she was a member of parliament.

00:13:17.600 I forgot that.

00:13:18.720 Telling the story.

00:13:19.940 I forgot that she got kicked out somewhere between me meeting you with, so I got kicked

00:13:24.760 out of the leadership.

00:13:26.180 Yeah.

00:13:26.360 Do you want to explain that?

00:13:27.860 Yeah.

00:13:28.160 So I got kicked out of the leadership because I called out Aaron O'Toole's campaign chair.

00:13:36.140 Very controversial.

00:13:36.960 Or saying in the Globe and Mail article, pro Sharia finance comments.

00:13:42.620 And I said, I'm against Sharia finance. 1.00

00:13:45.440 So they branded me with a Islamophobia label for quoting him, which I think is hilarious. 1.00

00:13:52.180 Yeah.

00:13:53.380 Um, and do you remember a lot of the establishment in the Jewish community also dumped on me on

00:13:59.700 Twitter? 1.00

00:14:00.000 They really are pathetic. 1.00

00:14:01.840 Yeah. 1.00

00:14:02.040 Like I'm the candidate in the conservative leadership race.

00:14:04.860 That's the most pro Israel candidate on the ballot.

00:14:09.360 And they're dumping on me because I, I quoted Waleed Solomon and his support for Sharia finance

00:14:14.820 and me saying, I disagree.

00:14:16.220 Like that's all I said.

00:14:17.480 But we had, you and me had that in common.

00:14:19.360 The, um, that's probably where that's the thing we have in common policy wise, which is, um,

00:14:27.280 strong advocates in favor of Israel and defending Jews and opposition to sympathizers of radical

00:14:35.440 Islam.

00:14:35.840 Like that, that was, I think, policy wise what made us click.

00:14:40.040 It wasn't, it wasn't, you know, my pro-life beliefs, uh, uh, for sure.

00:14:47.100 Um, um, and then from the time you and me had coffee, it was like six weeks after or eight weeks after the trial

00:14:56.440 ends with the conservative party that Ford kicks Belinda out of the legislature, out of the legislature,

00:15:02.040 out of the PC caucus because she voted against, um, his first COVID mandates, uh, bill, his first piece

00:15:10.960 of legislation that gave him dictatorial powers.

00:15:14.300 So, you know, that summer was the summer of like the PC establishment cleaning out the Karahaliuses 1.00

00:15:19.500 like quickly out of like, out of the party.

00:15:22.200 We got to get this guy out of here and get his wife out of there. 1.00

00:15:24.800 They didn't kick my son out.

00:15:25.940 I guess he didn't have a membership yet.

00:15:27.700 He was, he was only, he was only two.

00:15:31.120 He was four.

00:15:31.740 He was four.

00:15:32.760 He was four.

00:15:33.120 They could have done it, man.

00:15:34.280 They could have done it.

00:15:35.860 Yeah.

00:15:36.240 Yeah.

00:15:36.420 You touched on something important that people don't understand.

00:15:38.540 Political parties are cults.

00:15:40.860 They very much, or at least the establishment parties ones are.

00:15:43.960 Yeah.

00:15:44.480 Yeah.

00:15:44.820 Exactly.

00:15:45.440 We, um, and, and there's another small party that works like a cult.

00:15:49.380 Yes.

00:15:49.860 Well, they're part of the big party.

00:15:51.240 Our party has, uh, candidates, uh, with all kinds of various opinions.

00:15:56.740 And, uh, I don't have the energy to go around telling everyone what to think.

00:16:01.280 So, you know, some of you might, uh, you might see one of our 108 candidates that takes a position

00:16:07.800 that's different, um, than me.

00:16:10.380 They might not be as pro-life.

00:16:11.980 They might not be as, um, ardent supporters of Jews defending themselves in Israel.

00:16:20.200 Um, you know, they're, but what we're doing with the new blue parties, we're unifying all kinds of different people that had places in other parties before.

00:16:28.980 So, for example, we've got candidates that ran for the PPC.

00:16:31.920 We've got candidates that ran for the conservative party.

00:16:34.440 We've got candidates that were involved in the libertarian party before.

00:16:37.740 We have a candidate who ran for the none of the above party before.

00:16:40.840 We have candidates who ran as independents.

00:16:43.780 And we have candidates who were either running for or part of the board of a couple other smaller parties, like the Ontario party, the Ontario Alliance party.

00:16:53.500 We have Bridget Belton who ran against us last election with Sloan's team. 1.00

00:16:57.680 And now she's running for us when she discovered what the Sloan team's raison d'etre is, is to just dump all over Jim. 1.00

00:17:05.160 Like that's, that's why they do it.

00:17:06.560 You can imagine like waking up.

00:17:08.960 But I used to, remember like I was a little, like I was annoyed with them in 20, uh, in the last election cycle, 22.

00:17:16.060 And now I'm like, I think it's hilarious that they wake up, Derek, Tom, and Randy wake up every morning.

00:17:22.880 And their entire reason for doing what they're doing is to just oppose Jim Carahalios.

00:17:29.520 Like, like they just stalk me.

00:17:31.520 Like that's their, let's just go and stalk them.

00:17:34.220 The stalk Jim.

00:17:35.520 Um, that's pretty sad, actually.

00:17:37.220 That's pretty, pretty sad.

00:17:38.720 Um, but you know what the connection is with the cancer?

00:17:41.880 I see these like fake, uh, social media accounts sometimes that say, oh, the Carahalios has never did anything, uh, during, uh, COVID to stand up for people.

00:17:51.840 Like they just rewrite history.

00:17:53.720 These are like, this is Randy Hillier, right?

00:17:55.560 Sitting behind a, a, a social media cigarette and getting drunk.

00:17:59.380 Yeah.

00:17:59.520 Like a fake social media account and saying stuff.

00:18:02.240 And you know, Randy likes to rewrite history and suggest that he stood up to Doug Ford and Dean French over COVID.

00:18:07.900 Somehow Randy knew in 2019 when he got kicked out of the, out of the PC caucus that COVID was coming.

00:18:14.860 And he got, you know, I'm being sarcastic.

00:18:17.240 Randy didn't know.

00:18:17.960 Randy got kicked out because he had an argument with Dean French.

00:18:20.400 And because Randy endorsed the red Tory in the PC leadership race, Christine Elliott over Doug Ford.

00:18:27.200 But the first year of we're trying to establish new blue, we register for the name in September, October, 2020, because Belinda got kicked out July, August, something like that.

00:18:40.400 And it takes until 2021, February to get the name registered.

00:18:45.600 Well, I get diagnosed with cancer, November, December, 2020.

00:18:48.380 And I'm with a full leg cast and a tumor and a broken femur for three months.

00:18:55.840 And then I have major reconstructive surgery in March, 2021, another three rounds of chemo.

00:19:02.560 So I'm on my back from December, 2020 until May, 2021.

00:19:08.640 Then I'm on heavy antibiotics, May, June, July.

00:19:12.560 Right.

00:19:13.240 And the first chance I get August, I'm back on my feet and I'm doing events.

00:19:18.540 And like, I haven't eaten in eight months and I'm, and I'm limping with the cane.

00:19:23.460 I can't even walk yet.

00:19:24.460 I haven't learned how to walk because I've got my femur replaced, a full knee replacement, half my quads gone.

00:19:29.660 And now Randy and Tom have the gall to use the history of me fighting and recovering from cancer to suggest that I wasn't active on COVID because I couldn't go to events while I was recovering from tumors.

00:19:44.720 Like these guys are so low, like the depths of their depravity could only be learned in the PC culture that they grew.

00:19:54.460 up in like, well, it's the cold.

00:19:55.740 Remember during the convoy on the fourth, I broke my ankle.

00:19:58.980 Yeah.

00:19:59.380 I had reconstructive, reconstructive surgery.

00:20:02.500 Right.

00:20:03.120 Woke up in the hospital the next morning, slept for the day.

00:20:06.820 And the next day I was back at it doing interviews, you know, on Deloitte, it was on stage, whatever.

00:20:12.800 And they're like, oh, he broke his leg.

00:20:14.640 He wasn't there.

00:20:16.020 Yeah.

00:20:16.420 Yeah.

00:20:16.620 He was never around.

00:20:17.880 He was never around because he was in hospital with a shattered leg.

00:20:21.060 I had a day in the hospital.

00:20:22.520 And then the rest of the time. 1.00

00:20:23.660 Oh, they're so full of crap. 1.00

00:20:26.760 Yeah. 1.00

00:20:27.020 But they don't even like, there's no limits to how much they lie.

00:20:29.720 Right.

00:20:30.240 And, uh, that, the convoy, I remember showing up in the freezing cold because I had just

00:20:35.520 gotten back on my feet, August, September.

00:20:38.080 Yeah.

00:20:38.520 And I wasn't really fully going out of the house yet.

00:20:42.060 I was like limping around.

00:20:43.640 I went to a couple of meetings.

00:20:45.500 Yeah.

00:20:45.720 And the convoy was the first time I had been in a crowd.

00:20:48.880 And, uh, boy, that was like, that was, you know, I was pretty nervous because I had to

00:20:54.920 get on that stage to do the talk.

00:20:57.220 And the, and the people in charge of the mic didn't want me to get up on the stage.

00:21:00.840 And it was your mic.

00:21:02.440 Yeah.

00:21:02.620 We rented the mic and they wouldn't let me use it.

00:21:04.780 They took it over.

00:21:06.600 And it was me and like two staffers.

00:21:08.900 What am I going to do?

00:21:09.480 Put up a fight.

00:21:10.600 Yeah.

00:21:10.900 You know, the newbie rented the mic.

00:21:13.000 And then remember Ezra Levent jumped on stage, grabbed your mic and gave you no credit for

00:21:18.080 it.

00:21:18.280 Yeah, no credit.

00:21:19.420 Ezra never gives me credit for anything. 0.91

00:21:21.500 Guys, such a scam artist.

00:21:23.120 But yeah. 0.95

00:21:23.880 You're harsh, but. 0.84

00:21:25.080 I hate him.

00:21:26.060 He hasn't put me on.

00:21:27.340 Well, he, you have reason.

00:21:28.920 He dumped all over you at the end of the convoy.

00:21:31.760 Because he's, well, he did that tweet at the end of the convoy when you were, uh, when

00:21:37.240 you put that tweet out saying it's time to go so you don't get trampled on by horses.

00:21:40.360 And he said, you're, and I remember the tweet because I couldn't believe he put it out.

00:21:46.200 He put out that tweet saying, it looks like you're abandoning everyone.

00:21:49.280 And then fast forward.

00:21:50.720 It looks like you ran away.

00:21:52.320 Ran away. 1.00

00:21:52.740 I didn't see his fat ass with us the entire time. 0.99

00:21:57.020 But the, but the best part is a year later or whenever the inquiry is going on and it comes 0.99

00:22:03.480 out that Keith Wilson, Tom Maratso and Tamara are all at that time plotting the running

00:22:09.460 away.

00:22:10.160 Yes.

00:22:10.900 Ezra says nothing.

00:22:12.280 That was okay.

00:22:13.380 That was an exercise in heroism by Keith and Tom plotting behind everyone's back with the

00:22:21.400 government to get out of town as fast as possible by, by getting everyone to move their trucks

00:22:27.340 in the middle so they could trample everyone.

00:22:29.800 That was okay.

00:22:31.020 But you telling everyone the convoy leaders are going to leave.

00:22:35.120 Don't get trampled on by horses.

00:22:36.380 It's time to go.

00:22:37.760 That was Ezra's time to attack.

00:22:41.000 So that was low.

00:22:42.140 I thought that was obviously low that he did that.

00:22:44.640 Um, and he's never corrected it.

00:22:46.440 And he, Ezra's never had me on for an interview since, since, um, before I got diagnosed for

00:22:54.420 cancer, never had me on again, but that's why you have credibility.

00:22:59.080 Yeah.

00:22:59.520 And men's a nice guy, but he's always takes a little jab here and there.

00:23:04.060 And this election, we haven't been asked by the rebel to go on.

00:23:06.960 And the reason is because they can't put Sloan on.

00:23:09.760 Right.

00:23:10.040 So, um, because Sloan's not really running a campaign, put Sloan on, then they'd put us

00:23:15.760 on.

00:23:16.500 Can I tell you a little story about Sloan?

00:23:18.960 So people on the, the pro, the, the social conservative side really didn't.

00:23:24.180 Some of them understood this, but a lot of them didn't, I started, uh, um, a group with

00:23:30.300 some friends and some customers of mine at my business called LGB Tori.

00:23:36.300 Yeah.

00:23:36.440 Terrible, terrible group.

00:23:38.040 Which was horrible.

00:23:40.080 Oh, I'll never, I'll never let you like, I'll never forgive you for that.

00:23:43.200 But it was all about, all about breaking the communist hold of, over that community who

00:23:49.520 were my customers of my business.

00:23:51.360 It was really ridiculous what was going on.

00:23:53.160 Right.

00:23:54.180 And most of them would tell me like, I want to vote conservative, but if I vote conservative,

00:23:58.080 then nobody will talk to me in the neighborhood anymore because you get ostracized.

00:24:03.000 And the other motivation you told me was you were trying to show that community that sympathizing

00:24:08.720 with radical Islam is not really good for their, for them.

00:24:12.820 Right.

00:24:13.520 Like that was a very good, uh, objective.

00:24:16.820 Yeah.

00:24:17.700 I'll give you that.

00:24:18.480 And then no more.

00:24:19.760 Like, I won't give you any more.

00:24:20.920 Yeah, no.

00:24:21.100 Don't like that group.

00:24:24.560 Don't start that group.

00:24:25.540 And then you blew.

00:24:26.320 Like, that's not happening.

00:24:29.080 But anyways, go on.

00:24:30.340 There's so many people in the country that have been brainwashed, which is what I saw, what

00:24:37.200 was happening with that community.

00:24:39.400 Somebody had to do something.

00:24:41.120 Right.

00:24:41.160 Somebody had to put a stop to it.

00:24:43.240 Right.

00:24:43.620 And so I did the very best that I could.

00:24:45.960 And I think it worked because a lot of them started having conversations about radical

00:24:52.320 Islam and why these alien values are in our, in our country, that they shouldn't be in our 1.00

00:24:59.640 country.

00:24:59.840 And then that's, that eventually culminated in us putting together this policy for new blue

00:25:07.280 around Israel.

00:25:08.200 And you know, it's frustrating for me.

00:25:10.740 I want to hear your comments about it because you know how voters are.

00:25:14.800 The policy was put together as tabled at the floor at your convention.

00:25:18.120 It's under communities, page two of our policy declaration on newblueontario.com and it's

00:25:24.460 defund BDS supporters.

00:25:26.060 The new blue party supports defunding any organization receiving public funding that supports boycott,

00:25:31.680 divestment and sanctions, BDS, or other campaigns targeting Israel, its economy or local Jewish

00:25:37.500 communities and or Jewish organizations.

00:25:39.940 Great policy.

00:25:41.320 So here we are.

00:25:42.200 We're in a state where that community has been desperate for a long time for any leadership

00:25:49.020 in any party to stop talking out of both sides of their mouths and actually address

00:25:54.880 this issue.

00:25:56.040 So finally, there is a party in Canada that has put it in writing and it has passed the

00:26:02.520 convention.

00:26:03.480 Yet you put, you show people within that same community. 0.83

00:26:08.020 Maybe they're the same Jews who stabbed you in the back because you tried to point to some 1.00

00:26:14.400 radical Islam. 0.98

00:26:15.360 They said, no, radical Islam is good. 1.00

00:26:17.960 You know, real conservatives, true conservatives.

00:26:20.160 The elitist Jews who supported the guy in favor of Sharia finance over me who supports 0.76

00:26:25.940 Israel.

00:26:26.420 Yeah.

00:26:26.640 Okay.

00:26:27.240 Yeah, exactly.

00:26:27.880 They're never coming around.

00:26:28.980 But anyway.

00:26:29.740 Well, that's my question.

00:26:31.220 I mean, you've done this for many years.

00:26:32.980 What is required to get people to wake up and to make them realize that here you go.

00:26:40.360 If you don't vote for this, don't ever cry.

00:26:43.840 This is me talking, not you.

00:26:45.740 Don't cry to me about anti-Semitism anymore because you finally have the policy here.

00:26:50.900 It's here for you now.

00:26:52.440 You know?

00:26:53.200 What are your thoughts?

00:26:54.460 Well, we're the first party and we got to go back to that Derek Sloan story that you

00:26:59.380 mentioned, but you didn't finish the story.

00:27:01.040 You want me to finish it right now?

00:27:03.320 After, after, after.

00:27:04.180 Okay.

00:27:06.020 We're the first party that has members putting forward policy ideas and then we get together

00:27:13.280 for a convention and members vote on the policies and the ones that pass make up our policy

00:27:19.580 declaration.

00:27:20.800 There's no other provincial party in Ontario that does that.

00:27:24.680 Maybe the Greens.

00:27:26.060 Certainly, there's no other right of center political party in Ontario that does that.

00:27:29.660 The PCs don't.

00:27:31.300 The smaller parties don't.

00:27:33.640 Whatever party Randy Hillier is making any given year doesn't do that.

00:27:38.900 Derek Sloan doesn't believe in that.

00:27:41.360 And the policy declaration has very strong right of center policies.

00:27:51.340 And this is just one of them.

00:27:52.580 And one of them that I'm really proud of, because I've always been a supporter of Israel's right

00:27:59.400 to exist and defend itself and a supporter.

00:28:02.980 I grew up in a Orthodox Jewish community in North York.

00:28:05.940 And I'm acutely aware of the anti-Semitism in different community groups and also in university

00:28:16.720 and college campuses.

00:28:17.680 I spent way too much time in university, so I know.

00:28:20.180 I guess your question is, why aren't more Jewish voters voting New Blue then?

00:28:28.320 I think it's important to separate the elitist ones, the talking heads on social media or the

00:28:34.440 ones that are writing in the paper.

00:28:35.640 However, they're never going to come on side until we become, we replace the PC party, right?

00:28:42.160 Like they're going to be the last ones to come on side.

00:28:45.040 Okay.

00:28:46.440 Because we're new and, you know, they're defending their self-interest.

00:28:49.920 They're defending their reputation.

00:28:52.320 I was having this conversation with one of our local riding presidents, and we were talking

00:28:58.180 about a candidate that's running for another smaller party that's fighting the indoctrination

00:29:05.440 on the transgenderism in our schools.

00:29:08.080 And this candidate I met at the convoy, actually.

00:29:11.960 I met, I went to his house, and we had a one-on-one with a couple other people.

00:29:17.900 And I told him, you could run for the New Blue.

00:29:20.240 And he came to our New Blue meeting in Ottawa the next day.

00:29:24.580 I had like 100 people.

00:29:25.540 He was really impressed.

00:29:27.440 And then after that, I never heard from him again.

00:29:29.460 And he started hanging out with the elitists in the conservative party circles.

00:29:35.700 And I started seeing pictures on social media, all the people that trash me, right?

00:29:40.080 Yeah.

00:29:40.400 So he's plugged into that group of people who say, you know, I know this professor that

00:29:46.520 knows Jordan Peterson.

00:29:47.600 And I know, you know, I talked to the head of this association, and I talked to the head

00:29:52.240 of that organization.

00:29:53.220 And I know this guy that wrote the op-ed, and that kind of, you know, he's in that circle

00:29:58.900 of people.

00:30:00.880 And I think it's important to distinguish between like two types of activists on the conservative

00:30:08.080 side.

00:30:09.560 There's the activist that stands for the anti-woke stuff that we're talking about, fiscal conservatism.

00:30:18.600 We'll write an op-ed, but half of their reason for existing is networking with those important

00:30:26.320 people, right?

00:30:27.880 Like that's, you do that on a daily basis.

00:30:30.740 Their social circle is those important people.

00:30:34.240 And they will not advocate and fight for the proper solution if it means getting alienated

00:30:41.680 from that important social circle.

00:30:44.800 So if the professor that writes for the Fraser Institute and has an article in the National

00:30:50.620 Post is going to cut them off because that person's running for new blue, they won't do

00:30:55.880 it, right?

00:30:57.320 And then there's the people we have.

00:31:00.260 The people we have are grassroots activists.

00:31:02.540 Some of them have made their way to municipal council, like Rhonda Juvenville, Dave Brunel.

00:31:07.400 They've been successful.

00:31:08.560 Others used to be on council, like Stephen Kittris in Wellington Halton Hills.

00:31:13.540 He ran for us last time.

00:31:14.840 He didn't run for council again.

00:31:16.520 And he's running for us again.

00:31:18.020 These are grassroots activists that see the problem and really don't care if they're getting

00:31:23.800 cut out of important social circles because they're doing the right thing.

00:31:28.940 That's what the new blue has.

00:31:30.240 We have people that are more interested in the fight and doing the right thing than they're

00:31:35.140 interested in being the important social circles and knowing the important people, right?

00:31:41.220 And so I don't really care too much about the people that are caught up in the status

00:31:46.920 of who they know and the who's who, because that's not what the new blue party was created

00:31:51.260 for and we're never going to win those people over.

00:31:53.640 That's a small percentage of the population, though.

00:31:56.060 The vast majority of people who agree with the new blue policies.

00:31:59.000 It's going to take two more things to get their vote.

00:32:01.660 Number one, a lot of those people haven't heard a new blue because we've only been around

00:32:05.960 for three years, three and a half years.

00:32:09.280 And there's no quick fix for that.

00:32:11.340 Like there's no meme that's going to go viral.

00:32:14.260 This interview, even if it gets tens of thousands, a hundred thousand views is not enough.

00:32:19.460 Ontario's 10 million people.

00:32:20.680 It needs longevity and repetition and it needs people that know the new blue to talk to their

00:32:28.360 friends, to tell them this is the party to vote for.

00:32:30.840 They're not going to switch their vote just by watching a video or seeing a lawn sign or

00:32:35.960 watching one interview for me until they meet me or they meet someone that votes for the

00:32:41.180 new blue that they trust that convinces them to change their vote.

00:32:45.640 And this is studies that have been done on politics dating back to the days of Nixon.

00:32:51.640 This is how the most dependable, dependable way of switching a vote is the one on one

00:32:56.920 interaction.

00:32:57.840 And there's no quick two year solution for that.

00:33:00.540 There's no 10 million dollars, which we don't have, but, you know, budget to do radio TV ads

00:33:06.520 that's going to convince people.

00:33:08.080 It just takes time and they've got to know what the new blue is.

00:33:11.400 And I don't mean no, like, oh, we saw their sign once, like they got to know what it's

00:33:14.760 about and then they have to know that the new blue is sticking around and that, um, it's

00:33:20.800 something dependable they can vote on.

00:33:22.620 That's not a flash in the pan.

00:33:24.180 That's here, one election and gone the next.

00:33:26.940 So it's kind of like the corporate culture of the party they need to understand.

00:33:30.840 And the establishment parties is basically just the movie mean girls.

00:33:34.500 That's what I've learned.

00:33:35.660 That's how they operate.

00:33:36.880 That's fine. 0.99

00:33:37.240 Uh, so, so, all right, you really wanted me to tell about, uh, that idiot, uh, what's 0.99

00:33:42.920 his name? 0.99

00:33:43.280 Sloan, Derek Sloan.

00:33:44.960 Yeah.

00:33:45.140 Is this before anyone knew who he was before he ran for leader?

00:33:47.920 Is that a story that you do?

00:33:49.380 Uh, yeah, yeah.

00:33:50.300 That's, that's, that's, so, so we're, a lot of people upset about this, but good, good.

00:33:57.940 You know, the truth is upsetting, but the truth will set you free.

00:34:01.120 Right.

00:34:02.020 So they're, um, we're putting this, this together, this organization in my sort of local

00:34:08.920 community in downtown Toronto and trying to break the communist Islamist block, the red 0.99

00:34:14.940 green Alliance that's gotten a hold of the gay community.

00:34:17.800 Many of whom have lots of pay, lots of taxes, have lots of businesses.

00:34:23.180 They're fiscal conservatives.

00:34:25.020 So, you know, there, there are some people there.

00:34:27.520 If you want to build in the cities, there's some good people there.

00:34:30.180 Anyways, the campaign chair, uh, or campaign manager, I can't remember what it was for

00:34:38.300 Derek Sloan was the vice president of LGB Tory.

00:34:43.100 Is this when he was running locally at the riding level?

00:34:45.580 No, when he was running, uh, to be member of parliament.

00:34:49.520 Yes, right.

00:34:50.280 But not for leader when he's running to be an MP.

00:34:53.060 Yeah.

00:34:53.440 Yeah.

00:34:53.780 Yeah.

00:34:54.100 And he's running for an MP.

00:34:55.160 That's right.

00:34:55.520 And I was at a political event close to here at the Evergreens, right down the street.

00:35:01.520 Right.

00:35:02.740 And, uh, my friend brings this guy over and says, you know, I want to introduce you to my

00:35:08.760 candidate, Derek Sloan.

00:35:10.200 And I'm like, okay, nice to meet you.

00:35:13.160 And, you know, I had other people to talk to.

00:35:15.460 I didn't really care, but, you know, give him a couple minutes and whatever.

00:35:18.680 And then he starts talking to me that Derek Sloan starts telling me about the LGBT community,

00:35:26.940 how important the LGBT community is.

00:35:30.380 I'm like, okay, yeah, I get that.

00:35:32.540 And, uh, he's like, no, no, we really got to make headwinds with those, with that community.

00:35:36.900 We need to get them on board and whatever.

00:35:38.700 And I said to him, you know, the real problem for the LGBT community, to be entirely honest, 1.00

00:35:45.500 is what's happening in the Middle East, right?

00:35:48.200 We all have equal rights in the Western world.

00:35:50.720 We get that.

00:35:51.260 It's the Middle East that's the problem. 1.00

00:35:53.020 And he kept saying, no, but, you know, those are people. 0.97

00:35:55.700 And I felt like, I started thinking, I think he's gay. 0.93

00:35:59.740 Because I've, listen, I've known, listen, I've met my fair share of closeted homosexuals. 0.75

00:36:06.860 And I'm talking to this guy and he just wouldn't let up at how much he loved the LGBT community

00:36:11.340 to the point that the head of LGBT is like, dude, you got to chill out enough already.

00:36:17.220 You know?

00:36:17.400 Yeah.

00:36:17.600 So he, someone didn't tell him that he was going to be running for leader of the conservative

00:36:21.400 party as the SOCON a couple of years later.

00:36:24.260 Exactly.

00:36:24.860 So he shouldn't be saying that stuff.

00:36:26.680 And then it's funny.

00:36:27.760 He, so he gets elected.

00:36:28.960 And then, I don't know, what it was a month after he got elected, he, he puts on the SOCON

00:36:34.400 skin suit and all of a sudden now he's a, a social cons, I'm, I'm pretty sure.

00:36:40.220 He didn't do, he didn't do any of the social conservative stuff.

00:36:43.380 Even when he announced that he was running for leader of the conservative party, he didn't

00:36:47.140 do any of that stuff.

00:36:48.200 It was a good two weeks into his leadership for conservative party leader that, um, the

00:36:55.320 people behind PAFE got ahold of him.

00:36:57.300 And they said, you've got to run like this and position yourself like this and emulate

00:37:02.680 what that guy's doing, which was me because, and then he started changing his tune.

00:37:07.800 He wasn't known as a pro-life social conservative in the party.

00:37:12.500 When he ran, he said nothing.

00:37:14.040 There was no statement of his conservative values.

00:37:16.920 And like you're saying, he was going out saying the complete opposite.

00:37:20.020 Like, I don't think you'll find anyone that ever said Jim Corralius was trying to get

00:37:24.820 quotes from the LGBTQ community.

00:37:27.380 Like, uh, never happened when I was helping Monty McNaughton or Tanya Granick Allen or Doug

00:37:32.500 Fort, that never happened.

00:37:33.680 When I first met him, which was at that event, it reminded me of many years prior when I was

00:37:40.580 younger, I used to work for an exotic car broker.

00:37:42.980 And the person who washed the cars looked like Derek Sloan and behaved like Derek Sloan.

00:37:51.400 That's about, it was just, it's an empty suit.

00:37:54.300 And I was just, it was, that's more accurate.

00:37:56.760 Yeah.

00:37:56.920 It's hysterical to see this guy pranced around that he has any values whatsoever.

00:38:01.520 And you could see if you watched his old Facebook lives, his eyes, like he looks through 0.99

00:38:08.000 people because he's a psycho.

00:38:10.200 Well, I'm not going to clinically diagnose him, but I've never, I think I met him.

00:38:16.320 Have I even met him?

00:38:17.940 I think we spoke on the phone twice in 2020.

00:38:26.480 He's, he's not a warm guy.

00:38:28.460 He's not a very nice guy.

00:38:30.480 And, um, uh, yeah, I don't think we ever met actually now that I'm thinking, I think we

00:38:36.040 were beside each other at the March for life.

00:38:38.180 And at that point in time, I already blew the whistle on what he was all about.

00:38:42.200 And we spoke on the phone once or twice because I wanted to confirm that this meeting that his

00:38:48.000 close advisor, Michael Thiessen was going to, my, his, these pastors at Liberty Coalition

00:38:53.320 were saying I had to come into this meeting.

00:38:56.100 And I said, fine, any day, any time I come into this meeting to talk about unifying these

00:39:01.840 people that they want to unify.

00:39:04.380 And, um, so I got on the phone with Derek Sloan and I said, are you going to this meeting?

00:39:10.380 And, uh, he said, yeah, yeah.

00:39:11.660 And then they canceled the meeting two days later.

00:39:13.240 And then they started creating Randy Hilliard's party.

00:39:16.780 And then they started creating Derek Sloan's party.

00:39:19.240 And he has the gall to say that I avoided the meeting when I was on the phone with him

00:39:22.960 saying, are you going to this meeting?

00:39:24.300 That was the second conversation we either had.

00:39:26.320 The first conversation I had with him was in the conservative leadership race when he

00:39:30.620 called me to ask for an endorsement.

00:39:33.140 And, uh, I said, you should check with his advisor, John, and, uh, make sure that John

00:39:38.760 wants that, wants me to endorse you because John doesn't like me, I said, and, uh, I said,

00:39:44.520 are you using the endorsement to, uh, help Aaron O'Toole win?

00:39:48.060 Answer those two questions for me.

00:39:49.520 Call me back.

00:39:50.100 He never called me back.

00:39:51.020 So, cause I wasn't endorsing a guy that was going to try to help Aaron O'Toole beat Peter

00:39:55.220 McKay, which is exactly what he was in the race to do.

00:39:57.460 So, um, yeah, it is what it is.

00:40:00.400 Look, they're a non-factor in this election because they only got 40 candidates and I think

00:40:04.920 they, um, underestimated how many candidates we were going to get at 108 and they overestimated

00:40:13.240 the appeal of their candidates.

00:40:15.560 Um, and they were able to get about 39 or 40, um, uh, this time.

00:40:20.740 So they're not able to match us in as many ridings.

00:40:23.940 Um, and anyone who votes for them, I feel really sad, um, because they're either getting

00:40:28.200 fooled by, um, uh, they're getting bamboozled by the rhetoric, uh, or.

00:40:34.920 They're voters that know that they're voting for that party to stop the new blue and preserve

00:40:40.020 the PC party a little longer.

00:40:41.540 Right.

00:40:42.720 I do believe that there are voters like that.

00:40:44.980 I believe that there are voters that talk to the elites in PC circles and operatives.

00:40:50.280 And they're being told that we just got to wait it out.

00:40:53.500 And the next leadership, uh, I had hair when I started hearing this next leadership talk

00:40:59.200 and it's all gone.

00:41:00.220 But I do believe that there are lots of voters that think this, we just got to wait it out.

00:41:04.180 Yeah.

00:41:04.620 And when Doug Ford goes, we'll have another leadership and we'll get someone in there

00:41:08.700 that'll clean house. 1.00

00:41:09.700 It's never going to happen.

00:41:10.580 Right.

00:41:10.980 But they're fooled.

00:41:11.740 People are fooled, uh, by this type of rhetoric.

00:41:14.840 Well, speaking of Doug Ford, when I share something I have on here, I thought you might

00:41:20.600 enjoy this.

00:41:21.600 And I'm looking up in the sky cause I have a monitor to my left.

00:41:24.320 Yeah.

00:41:24.780 No, no, no.

00:41:25.140 I'm looking for you to play it.

00:41:26.160 All right.

00:41:27.380 And let me just add this to the stage.

00:41:29.360 So it turns out that the biggest export of Canada was testosterone.

00:41:34.420 Um, there's something about, they're also going to have some tariffs on American stuff

00:41:38.340 that we don't care about.

00:41:39.440 So this is, uh, for those who are listening, this is Scott Adams on his daily podcast, Coffee

00:41:46.660 of Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert.

00:41:49.300 We may never even notice because the difference in size of our markets is such that their tariffs

00:41:55.940 won't have the same effect as our tariffs.

00:41:57.580 But it gets better, uh, Doug Ford, the, uh, the premier of Ontario, he's not going to have

00:42:05.160 any of this American bullying.

00:42:07.340 So he's decided that he's not going to give, um, contracts to Americans for some stuff they're

00:42:14.000 doing in Ontario to which I say, well, wait a minute, why would Americans get those contracts

00:42:20.480 in the first place?

00:42:21.340 Uh, I can only think of one reason that they were the best bid.

00:42:29.580 So to hurt us, they're going to use the people who are not as good to build their stuff.

00:42:36.760 Okay.

00:42:37.440 Good luck with that.

00:42:39.440 You know, there was a reason you picked American companies, but they, if you can do it on your

00:42:44.220 own, let's see.

00:42:45.780 But here's the best part.

00:42:46.740 He decided that he was going to, uh, turn off access, at least in Ontario, uh, to Starlink.

00:42:57.300 So, who taught Canada how to fight?

00:43:05.940 They're going to turn off their own internet.

00:43:10.300 They're going to turn off their own internet to, to, to teach us a lesson.

00:43:14.420 They're going to turn off their own internet, but they're also sad.

00:43:18.780 They're sad.

00:43:19.280 So there you go.

00:43:19.460 That's, uh, that's, uh, how Doug Ford is known in the United States now amongst Scott,

00:43:26.060 Scott Adams.

00:43:27.480 Doug used to think that, Doug used to think that the way that Rob's substance abuse problems

00:43:32.560 was embarrassing to the Ford family.

00:43:36.480 But Rob had like a real problem that he was fighting with.

00:43:39.280 Doug doesn't have a problem except for he's an empty suit.

00:43:44.460 And now he's really embarrassing the Ford brand, right?

00:43:47.120 The way he's handling this tariff challenge with, uh, the Trump administration.

00:43:51.920 He's, he's really showing everyone that he doesn't know how to govern Ontario.

00:43:56.320 And the only thing he's got going for him is there's only nine days, eight days left, uh,

00:44:01.020 seven days left until the election.

00:44:02.680 And so, uh, people just might not, uh, figure it out in time for E-Day, but, um, talk about

00:44:08.780 dropping the ball and, um, and trying to fight back in a way that just hurts Ontarians, right?

00:44:15.120 And it's amazing how he does a good job, Adams, of, uh, of describing it in a really pithy,

00:44:22.480 funny way.

00:44:23.020 But it's not that funny because the people that are going to suffer the most is like rural Ontario

00:44:28.160 who needs that, need that contract to, to broaden the internet services in Ontario.

00:44:33.720 And, um, do you remember back when Biden supposedly beat Trump and Biden took over as a president?

00:44:41.360 Yes.

00:44:42.200 Remember when I was pointing to you on social media, all the PC lobbyists and activists

00:44:46.560 and the people behind Ford in the premier's office who were cheering about how happy they

00:44:52.320 were that Biden won?

00:44:53.860 Yeah.

00:44:54.420 Yeah, no.

00:44:55.380 And, and, and now the Ford administration, like no one knows this, right?

00:44:59.140 Cause the press doesn't report this, but the Trump administration knows that.

00:45:03.360 Like they know that they don't have an ally in the Ford administration or in the conservative

00:45:09.540 establishment in Canada.

00:45:10.680 So there's really no one on the Canadian side that can go, um, to the Trump administration

00:45:17.300 and have some advanced conversations before the tariffs kick in.

00:45:22.240 And, you know, I'm not, I'm not a huge fan of Danielle Smith's because she's got a checkered 0.99

00:45:26.340 past when she was the leader of, um, uh, the wild rose out there.

00:45:31.380 Um, but she made the most of it. 1.00

00:45:32.940 At least she got an invitation.

00:45:34.040 I think Belinda had a local Cambridge debate the other day and she said it best, like Doug

00:45:38.020 Ford couldn't even get invited down there for a meeting.

00:45:40.080 Like he needs no access premier of Ontario, biggest province in Canada, and he can't

00:45:46.520 get access to have a meeting with a Trump, uh, admin official, senior official to talk

00:45:51.480 about this stuff.

00:45:52.980 Should I tell you a funny story about Doug Ford?

00:45:55.960 That's very similar to Derek Sloan.

00:45:59.400 Um, okay.

00:46:01.460 So when Doug was running, uh, for premier or running for leader after the whole Patrick

00:46:07.380 Bound thing, he was calling absolutely everybody who is an influencer in the party.

00:46:14.820 And I think on the second day I was reached out to, so Doug really wants to talk to you.

00:46:20.280 It's very important.

00:46:21.240 I got a call from Doug Ford.

00:46:23.380 It's very enthusiastic, but LGB Tory is really, can I count on your support?

00:46:30.820 Can we get the LGB Tory people in the tens of votes that that was going to drive in the

00:46:36.720 piece?

00:46:36.940 I mean, there's Doug Ford, you know, champion of LGBTQ rights. 0.97

00:46:41.820 They're all scam artists, man. 0.88

00:46:45.260 All of them, you know, that's the sad part about it. 0.95

00:46:47.860 Right.

00:46:48.140 And you know, the millions of dollars they raise, uh, for these leadership races, right.

00:46:51.960 And they get some empty suit to come forward, pretend they're a big conservative, um, and

00:46:57.400 fight.

00:46:57.860 That's going to be a big challenge for the new blue whenever, because the conservative

00:47:01.680 establishment, PC establishment is waiting for the day they can replace Doug Ford and

00:47:05.820 bring back a lot of the base that they've burned.

00:47:08.680 Cause they're, they're relying on a lot of liberal vote now, right.

00:47:11.680 To win, um, seats.

00:47:14.540 Eventually that's going to crater because the liberals are going to figure it out.

00:47:19.500 Eventually they're going to, the liberals are going to get their base back eventually.

00:47:22.560 And then the PCs are going to have to come back and get the conservative base that they've

00:47:27.800 annoyed.

00:47:29.360 A lot of that conservative base is either not voting.

00:47:32.620 Some of it's voting new blue.

00:47:33.840 A lot of it's not voting at all.

00:47:35.560 They're going to need it back.

00:47:36.660 So they're going to go into another leadership race.

00:47:38.740 They're going to find one or two empty suits.

00:47:40.360 They're going to create these, you know, icons of conservatism heroes out of the blue.

00:47:47.440 And it's going to be a challenge for new blue.

00:47:49.080 Cause we're not going to just sit back and say nothing when that happens.

00:47:53.080 We're going to have to call it out in the middle of that leadership.

00:47:56.600 Um, and we'll see when that day happens.

00:47:58.640 Well, you got to make sure when that happens years in the future, you got to tell the conservatives,

00:48:04.380 you got to vote new blue.

00:48:06.720 Don't split the vote by voting in the Ontario PC.

00:48:09.800 We've got to, we've got to keep growing though, because even in between elections, like people,

00:48:17.240 I think, um, there's some people that just think, you know, it's about winning a seat

00:48:20.620 and that's it.

00:48:21.140 And, you know, obviously you have a political party, you're trying to win seats, but the

00:48:25.500 in between elections and in the growth stage where you're starting as a startup until you

00:48:30.220 win your first seat.

00:48:31.080 There's a lot that can be done to hold the, um, uh, establishment parties to account, hold

00:48:37.520 their feet to the fire, expose what's going on to, um, people that are interested to know

00:48:42.920 in Ontario.

00:48:44.360 And, um, the, the good news is the optimism is you can't fix the PC party from the inside.

00:48:50.140 Yeah.

00:48:50.800 Um, we've tried that.

00:48:52.180 I've tried that many, many times.

00:48:53.740 Yeah.

00:48:54.200 That's depressing for some people, but the good news is this all three parties, the establishment

00:48:58.800 party is the same.

00:48:59.700 Um, so when you convince one or change one on, for example, the carbon tax issue, um,

00:49:06.720 all three parties, uh, line up with their policies and they start backtracking the carbon

00:49:12.100 tax.

00:49:12.600 We're seeing that federally now, right?

00:49:14.240 With the liberals, when you convince them on drug injection sites, the way Belinda advocated, 0.99

00:49:19.540 they'll never give the credit to Belinda, but then all three parties stop pushing drug

00:49:24.280 injection sites and retreat.

00:49:26.300 So they might not come out and say it, but you see very quickly that all three parties

00:49:30.500 do the same thing.

00:49:31.960 And so the optimism or the silver lining for the new blue is in between elections.

00:49:36.080 If we can raise an issue, put it on the map, change one of them, that means we're changing

00:49:42.100 all three of them at the same time.

00:49:43.760 Um, so don't waste your vote in this election voting for one of the establishment parties

00:49:48.920 or another small party.

00:49:49.860 That's fake.

00:49:51.100 Um, and is only there just to hurt the new blue, uh, or try to hurt the new blue vote

00:49:56.360 for the new blue.

00:49:56.920 Cause every vote you give the new blue strengthens what we stand for and gives us a stronger,

00:50:01.320 uh, position to, um, challenge to the left, balance the narrative and change the course,

00:50:07.520 which is what we're, um, trying to do every day.

00:50:10.120 Okay.

00:50:10.620 A couple of quick things.

00:50:11.380 I'm going to play another quick little video and it's from Patrick Boyle and, uh, touch a

00:50:19.640 little bit on DEI and what he's going to talk about in this video.

00:50:23.600 So let me just get this on here.

00:50:25.600 According to the press, a lot of the tech layoffs have been in ESG areas where the big

00:50:31.800 tech firms have started abandoning their woke policies as part of their cost cutting.

00:50:37.140 The New York Post reported that Microsoft laid off a team devoted to diversity, equity

00:50:42.920 and inclusion after spending millions of dollars on the initiative.

00:50:47.760 One of the signs of the overhiring may have been the woman that they hired away from the 0.82

00:50:52.560 land registry who would read out the property title before every meeting.

00:50:56.840 First, we want to acknowledge that the land where the Microsoft campus is situated was

00:51:02.960 traditionally occupied by the Sammamish, the Duwamish, the Snoqualmie, the Suquamish,

00:51:10.440 the Muckleshoot, the Snohomish, the Tulalip, and other Coast Salish peoples since time immemorial.

00:51:18.320 Maybe I should look up who owned this office before me and say something nice about them

00:51:23.120 at the start of the videos.

00:51:24.280 I, I don't know how people do this stuff.

00:51:27.360 So I saw that and I thought of DEI Doug and it sounds like Silicon Valley is more conservative

00:51:36.000 and right wing than Doug Ford is at this point.

00:51:39.560 Just your comments on that.

00:51:41.000 And also, uh, something that's my pet hate, which is this land acknowledgement nonsense, 1.00

00:51:47.960 which needs to stop.

00:51:50.020 What are your, your thoughts?

00:51:53.820 Um, you know, last year at the, I took my son to a Leaf game, this first Leaf game and

00:51:59.860 they did the land acknowledgement and then we got one this year.

00:52:03.180 And I think they stopped doing it at Leaf games.

00:52:07.440 Did they really?

00:52:08.620 I think so, but I'm not a hundred percent sure, but that was an example of, um, where I've

00:52:14.880 seen, um, on a large scale, like they're kind of retreating from it and, um, uh, it's too

00:52:24.740 much for people all the time.

00:52:26.280 You know, uh, when you played that clip, it reminded me of, um, and you asked the question,

00:52:32.500 reminding me of this other piece of propaganda, which is as bad as the PCs are, imagine how

00:52:40.560 bad it is.

00:52:41.420 If the liberals weren't power, of course, always that.

00:52:45.200 Yeah.

00:52:45.860 And it's an effective like piece of manipulation because it can really, uh, capture a hold of

00:52:52.300 you and it's, it's, it's asking you to use your imagination of like this supposed liberal

00:52:59.540 government that might be in place.

00:53:01.080 That'll do worse. 0.81

00:53:03.000 So then you look at Doug Ford in a few weeks ago, a couple of months ago, Belinda blew

00:53:07.500 the whistle on the fact that his government is still putting money into and promoting

00:53:14.060 DEI initiatives in education and healthcare and other government sectors.

00:53:18.880 So he's actually ramped it up from Kathleen Wynne's time.

00:53:21.840 He hasn't scaled it back.

00:53:23.720 He's actually doing more of it than Kathleen Wynne ever did.

00:53:28.320 And it was his government that, um, it was the PC government that asked Waleed to do a 0.67

00:53:34.980 report on the Ontario Securities Commission.

00:53:37.180 And the recommendation there was that every business listed on the stock exchange, the

00:53:43.360 TSC, um, had to have, um, racial and gender quotas for their boards.

00:53:50.500 A massive, that would be just devastating on, on, um, securities and stocks, um, uh, on the

00:53:59.720 TSC.

00:54:00.440 This is all coming from a PC government, these types of things.

00:54:03.440 So they're not, uh, slightly better.

00:54:07.600 They're as bad.

00:54:08.660 And in many ways they're worse than the liberals because, and I say this and shocking to people

00:54:14.040 to hear because when a PC is doing it, it's really being done under the radar and no one

00:54:19.340 knows it's being done because when you have the NDP or the liberals do it, you've got your

00:54:25.100 establishment outfits like the sun or the post, they'll write about it and they'll let everyone

00:54:29.720 know because they want conservatives to know that this is going on.

00:54:34.100 But when you got Doug Ford and the PCs doing a lot of this stuff, no one knows, or very few

00:54:39.300 people know, or the only people that know, or the people that follow the new blue, um,

00:54:44.160 very few people outside of that know because there is no party in the legislature blowing

00:54:49.940 the whistle and the establishment media is not talking about it because they don't want

00:54:53.640 to embarrass the PC government, which is supposed to be nominally conservative, right?

00:54:58.600 And that's why I say it's actually worse because it comes in under the radar by stealth and it

00:55:03.420 can really cement itself in there, um, makes it harder to get rid of.

00:55:07.920 And from my perspective, and I, I don't think you'll disagree with this.

00:55:12.540 Um, it's, it's way worse than that.

00:55:15.360 But the reason Canada is becoming perceived as a very left-wing country, or at least our 1.00

00:55:22.040 governance is, is because the coward, the conservatives are cowards and they're frauds. 0.99

00:55:28.940 And so the left are the ones who have hold of the Overton window because the conservatives 0.99

00:55:35.200 come out and LARP as conservatives, but they don't really push like the left does.

00:55:41.160 The left pushes, the, the conservatives always cede ground to them.

00:55:46.400 And then the left pushes more, the conservatives cede more ground.

00:55:49.960 This is why, from my perspective, I, it's very important.

00:55:53.840 We have conservative parties.

00:55:55.920 That's why, look, you're more social conservative than I am, but you know, I'm very sympathetic

00:56:00.640 and supportive of social conservatives because that's going to be the solution from the left

00:56:06.380 grabbing hold of the Overton windows.

00:56:08.220 Having social conservatives grab it and bring it back.

00:56:12.100 Yeah, I, I think you're right.

00:56:14.140 I think the problem's, uh, worse though.

00:56:16.920 Okay.

00:56:17.420 Um, I'm not really a big believer in this Overton window stuff.

00:56:21.420 I think the, I think those are all theories that like the political science PhDs like to

00:56:29.220 make, to explain how things are happening.

00:56:31.700 Like the reality is if, if you can, um, if you can get the microphone and do a good job

00:56:39.100 selling a policy, most people in Ontario are conservative minded.

00:56:43.860 Most people don't like radical change.

00:56:46.020 Most people don't like paying high taxes.

00:56:48.040 Agreed.

00:56:48.660 So I don't really think you need to shift the Overton window.

00:56:51.840 I mean, I started the acts, the carbon tax campaign with, um, with at the time, almost

00:56:56.780 every conservative leader was conceding on the carbon tax because Brad wall was the one

00:57:01.920 fighting against the Saskatchewan, the premier, he resigned.

00:57:05.360 He wasn't going to be premier anymore.

00:57:06.500 And all the other conservative leaders were being really soft about it.

00:57:10.660 And, you know, within, I don't know, six to 12 months of a campaign on social media, it

00:57:17.780 caught wind and all the conservative leaders wanted to be against the carbon tax.

00:57:21.940 Didn't take much.

00:57:23.180 You just got to put the right information in front of people to, um, get them to agree

00:57:28.740 with you.

00:57:30.740 I think the biggest problem with, uh, these fake, like the PC party, it's not that they're

00:57:36.200 soft or they lack courage.

00:57:38.680 They're not conservatives.

00:57:39.900 I was talking on another show the other day about Vic Fidelli and how he ended up in the

00:57:44.820 PC party.

00:57:45.820 He's the minister of, uh, economic development.

00:57:48.400 I think he was the minister of finance for a brief period in the beginning of the Ford

00:57:53.080 government.

00:57:54.520 Vic Fidelli was the mayor of a municipality up North and, um, he wanted to run for the

00:58:00.720 liberals and they said, no, they picked someone else.

00:58:03.760 So then he went over to the PCs, like Doug Ford is the Ford brother.

00:58:09.900 Um, who was a liberal, like he, he would kept badgering his brother, Rob.

00:58:15.460 That Rob was too conservative and he was telling Rob, he's gotta be like liberal, like Christine

00:58:21.380 Elliott.

00:58:21.880 That's the way to be.

00:58:22.880 Um, so they don't allow conservatives to run in their nominations or their leadership races.

00:58:29.800 Um, like in the beginning of the show, we're talking about, if you have courage and you

00:58:34.660 have independent thought and you have common sense ideas, they're not letting you run in 0.95

00:58:39.300 that party.

00:58:40.300 Um, and so the back room is controlled by lobbyists that are all the same, like the, the lobbyists

00:58:46.200 that are in charge of the NDP, liberal PCs, they're all the same and all in business with

00:58:50.320 each other.

00:58:51.320 And they're all like, uh, left-wing ideologues.

00:58:53.360 Yeah.

00:58:54.360 So going into this, uh, election, we'll, we'll button it up in a couple of minutes here.

00:59:03.980 You've put together this policy declaration that was voted on by grassroots.

00:59:08.680 I know, cause I was there voting and participated in it.

00:59:11.980 And I saw for the first time, like a legitimate party that operated where like there were, there's

00:59:18.820 some heated debates.

00:59:19.940 Yeah.

00:59:20.320 Remember Bridget?

00:59:22.740 There was not unanimous, um, agreement on all these policies, not at all, but it was

00:59:28.620 some of them failed, right?

00:59:29.740 Some of them got moved on the floor and didn't make it through.

00:59:33.120 That's right.

00:59:33.880 And there was some good debate and heated debate, but it was, I thought it was very healthy.

00:59:38.600 And after all of it, it was like, it was like people having a boxing match.

00:59:43.280 Once they're finished, they come out, they hug each other and like, better luck next time

00:59:47.460 I disagreed this, but everybody's kind of all friends.

00:59:49.940 It was, it was really a nice environment.

00:59:52.900 Um, what are you most proud of and you know, what you and Belinda have accomplished and what's

01:00:03.640 kind of the vision over the longterm?

01:00:05.720 Um, like for you personally too, like, cause everything that you guys have been through,

01:00:10.600 uh, at the same time that you were diagnosed and fighting cancer, she was thrown out of the party

01:00:16.180 and was on her own.

01:00:18.200 And, you know, many of the people around you, your social circles abandoned you.

01:00:23.080 Um, I didn't, and a few others didn't, but everybody else did.

01:00:27.560 Um, so I know you, you must have a, an evolved view of the world over the past few years.

01:00:35.220 Kind of what, what, what are you, what are you most proud of maybe in your policy declarations?

01:00:39.560 Like, and, and where do you see this all going?

01:00:42.980 Look, I could talk about, um, a bunch of political things that I think are, are, um, things that

01:00:50.540 we're proud of.

01:00:51.720 Um, the fact that we had 123 candidates last time and we got 108 this time in a snap election,

01:00:57.900 the middle of winter, we didn't, you know, there was a time we thought we weren't going

01:01:01.460 at more than 40 and 108 step forward and they're better.

01:01:06.280 It's a better group of candidates than last time.

01:01:08.820 I could talk about the fact that we have a policy declaration, um, from a grassroots policy

01:01:13.680 process.

01:01:15.040 Um, I could talk about the fact that I'm pretty sure more people in Ontario know what the new

01:01:19.740 blue is than know who Jim is.

01:01:21.680 And that's really good when like, when the party brand is stronger than the leader, if you

01:01:29.620 are serious about having a party that you want to survive beyond my time in politics, then

01:01:35.140 that's a really good thing.

01:01:36.320 I could sit here and tell you, Oh, I'm, I'm proud that acts the carbon tax is the phrase

01:01:41.320 of numerous politicians.

01:01:42.980 Now when I started it, or that Belinda was the first on the scene to fight against drug 1.00

01:01:47.940 injection sites, the first on the scene to call for tougher border measures on fentanyl.

01:01:52.280 We were the first to talk about, um, uh, foreign interference in internal party elections and vote

01:01:58.580 rigging, um, before anyone else wanted to talk about it.

01:02:02.920 Um, I could give you a list of all that stuff.

01:02:05.960 I think that the thing I'm most proud about is that we did all this, uh, stuff in politics

01:02:11.120 and, um, I don't get the sense that it's negatively affected our family or my son.

01:02:17.140 That's the thing I'm most proud about.

01:02:18.660 So I coach my son's hockey team.

01:02:21.040 He's eight.

01:02:22.200 I help out coach his baseball team.

01:02:24.480 Um, he knows what the new blue is kind of finds it a little interesting, although a little

01:02:30.860 confusing.

01:02:32.620 Um, uh, but he's into sports and he's into his friends and he's into Lego.

01:02:38.900 And, um, when Belinda was an MPP, uh, the cult down there at Queens park was telling her

01:02:44.920 to get, uh, an apartment and only come home on, you know, when the legislature took breaks

01:02:51.420 every three or four weeks and our son was four at the time.

01:02:56.700 And then when I was sick with cancer, um, Belinda drove every day and she didn't meet.

01:03:05.640 She didn't, she drove from Cambridge, Toronto and back every day.

01:03:08.840 Didn't miss a chance to speak at Queens park when it was her turn, maybe once or twice.

01:03:15.240 She missed a chance.

01:03:16.920 And on days when I had chemo in Toronto, we would go together to Mount Sinai.

01:03:22.760 I would check in.

01:03:24.880 They would put the chemo in the drip.

01:03:29.120 He would go to Queens park with the question that we were practicing.

01:03:33.640 Like she was rehearsing with me and we were tightening up and she'd come back, pick me up

01:03:38.480 and take me home.

01:03:38.980 That's what we were doing like that.

01:03:42.320 And so, um, she didn't listen to the cult to say, you know, just forget about Jim, get

01:03:47.060 someone to take care of him, get a nurse to take care of him. 1.00

01:03:49.860 We didn't listen to them about, you know, your son will be fine.

01:03:52.420 She came home every day.

01:03:54.120 And, uh, our family as a unit survived, uh, all of that and survived all of the attacks

01:04:02.220 from the trolls on social media that continue to troll us, the pastors, unscrupulous pastors

01:04:10.060 that smeared us in the last election, whisper campaigns.

01:04:14.180 And to be quite honest, we're stronger now than we were before.

01:04:18.300 And we're in a better place because, um, you talk about people that I was friends with

01:04:24.300 in the PC establishment while I was there.

01:04:27.180 And I didn't really understand what they were all about.

01:04:29.360 It's like this huge weight off your shoulders when you don't have to deal with them anymore.

01:04:33.440 And I feel really sorry for the people that are in those establishment parties that are

01:04:40.200 trying, or they think they're trying to advance and they've got, you know, um, how do I describe

01:04:49.580 it?

01:04:50.660 The, uh, it's not a very supportive place and they're surrounded by people that, um, are very

01:04:58.580 transactional, really don't care about each other.

01:05:01.400 Um, I don't think we have that in the new blue, uh, in the new blue, we've got people

01:05:05.420 that want to be there and want to support each other.

01:05:08.740 And you see the 108 candidates on social media helping each other.

01:05:12.760 There were candidates that needed signatures in the last week, a couple of weeks ago for

01:05:16.720 the cutoff candidates were driving into other ridings to help a handful of candidates

01:05:21.460 get those signatures.

01:05:23.040 So, um, um, you know, for us, it starts from our family and we just try to live that every

01:05:29.740 day in our interactions with other people.

01:05:33.460 Yeah, I think that's, um, I think that's important.

01:05:38.120 It's, it's disappointing to see, you know, the side of politics that always talks about family

01:05:44.420 values. 0.79

01:05:45.080 It's, it's all plastic and it's fake and, uh, there's, there's a degree of mental illness

01:05:52.240 that I saw a lot of amongst many of those people who are in politics and that's why it's, you're

01:05:58.500 right.

01:05:58.820 It is so refreshing to be completely away from all of that and not sucked into it because

01:06:06.600 either you're a permanent boot licker and eventually you're just like, I've, I've said

01:06:12.740 this, this sounds crazy to some people, but, and this is hype, it's hyperbolic, but partially

01:06:20.000 out of entertainment, but there's some truth to this.

01:06:22.600 They're all socialists.

01:06:24.520 They all behave like socialists.

01:06:26.980 It's really creepy.

01:06:28.960 You thought that's just kind of the left wing side of the, the political spectrum, but I've,

01:06:36.140 I see that behavior amongst everybody in all the establishment parties.

01:06:40.280 That's why I call it the uniparty and I've, yeah, I gave a speech recently in Florida and

01:06:45.620 I was trying to explain to them how they're, they're complaining about their uniparty in

01:06:49.980 the U S I'm like, no, no, no, you guys have no idea what it's like, so I kind of mapped

01:06:55.360 out a few of the things there and they were just absolutely appalled.

01:06:59.040 And that was the day after Trudeau was at Mar-a-Lago and was emasculated by Trump and Trump started

01:07:09.200 saying you should be the 51st state and I had to field questions for like 45 minutes about

01:07:14.600 would Canadians go for it?

01:07:16.760 And I'm like, well, I don't know.

01:07:19.080 But, um, yeah, people, once you see it on the inside, it's really kind of depressing.

01:07:24.920 And that's why for me, when I see what you and Belinda have done, the reason, I mean,

01:07:31.140 aside from the fact we become good friends over the years, but one of the reasons I think

01:07:35.960 it's so important what you're doing is because this is kind of the last hope of something to

01:07:42.800 fight against this scripted, uh, artificial and plastic political establishment.

01:07:49.600 that's just a veneer because it's just one group of people run by a group of lobbyists

01:07:57.600 and that's it.

01:07:58.340 And at least when I got involved, there was, um, there were still like elections to vote

01:08:04.720 the candidate nominations.

01:08:06.380 And so even though the like higher apparatus in the party was pretty cold and didn't really

01:08:12.760 care about anybody who would throw anyone under the bus, um, and they were plastic and not

01:08:18.880 real at the lower levels, the local levels, you can meet, you know, decent people, right?

01:08:23.440 Like minor people, and you can get involved in nomination race and enjoy it.

01:08:27.760 It's, it's only when you started pushing up, you know, maybe you want to be a candidate and 0.99

01:08:32.040 you want it to get the green light or you start to press up against the real, uh, jerks. 0.99

01:08:37.440 Um, well, that's all gone now, right? 0.95

01:08:39.360 Like, I think that's what something, a lot of people don't understand that it's gone now.

01:08:42.960 Like the Ford PCs haven't had an election to pick a candidate since 2018.

01:08:50.720 So we're approaching seven years.

01:08:53.520 So everyone's just appointed and everyone's just picked by the leader.

01:08:56.640 That's how they got that guy in Milton to be the MPP.

01:08:59.440 I'm sure that conservatives in Milton wouldn't have voted for the, uh, former liberal, um,

01:09:06.480 who with a checkered antisemitic past in some of the circles he hangs out in, uh, as the candidate,

01:09:13.360 but Ford just picks them all.

01:09:14.800 Ford picked the PC president, Michael Diamond.

01:09:17.680 They don't follow their constitution anymore.

01:09:20.400 There's no rules in the PC party.

01:09:23.360 And it's not even Ford, right?

01:09:24.640 It's the lobbyists that tell Ford what to do. 1.00

01:09:27.440 Uh, Ford's just weak and pathetic. 1.00

01:09:29.120 Like he can't stand up to his own lobbyists. 0.99

01:09:31.040 So, um, if you want to get involved in politics, it's either, uh, you can't do it through them.

01:09:40.560 Uh, PCs, liberals, or NDP.

01:09:43.120 And that's what the new blue is set up for.

01:09:45.120 You want to get involved in politics.

01:09:46.240 You might not agree with all our positions, but if you think it's time to clean house and

01:09:50.560 there's something wrong with the system.

01:09:51.920 So I'm not going to do this forever.

01:09:53.920 That's for sure.

01:09:54.640 Um, uh, but definitely we're creating a political family that, um, the objective is that the brand,

01:10:04.960 um, survives my time in politics and continues.

01:10:09.280 And that's why I'm proud of the 108 candidates that we have really strong candidates.

01:10:14.560 Um, and we're developing people that have the skills to keep it running both on the political

01:10:19.760 side and the back room in terms of compliance with elections, Ontario and all that stuff.

01:10:25.360 And it's a grind because they make it hard on you with all the laws and the regulations.

01:10:29.840 Those are all designed to make it hard to run a political party.

01:10:33.920 Um, but you know, uh, I think there's a chance that it will have staying power.

01:10:39.040 So people can not only obviously vote for you in this election on the 27th,

01:10:43.920 but they can also become members of the party and contribute and get involved as well.

01:10:49.600 How do they do that?

01:10:50.400 New blue Ontario.com to be a member.

01:10:53.440 Um, and if you just find your local candidate in your riding and try to help them out,

01:10:59.040 um, and spread the word, let your friends and family know new blue Ontario.com

01:11:03.280 and understand that we're not an operation, um, funded by government with tens of millions of dollars.

01:11:10.160 We don't have MPPs where we can have an office and you can walk in and bang your desk.

01:11:15.040 This is a small team with hundreds of people spread out across the province,

01:11:20.480 um, running for election in 108 different ridings.

01:11:23.200 So there's a lot of ground to cover and, um, uh, everyone's doing it, um,

01:11:32.560 adjacent to their full-time job and their families, right?

01:11:35.760 This isn't a full-time job with those 108 candidates.

01:11:39.280 Well, I hope it goes well.

01:11:40.320 And I hope we'll be celebrating something on election night.

01:11:44.400 It's up to the voters from now on.

01:11:47.040 Yeah.

01:11:47.520 Well, I'm going to do my best to try to get everybody aware in, uh,

01:11:51.600 in my circles and my follow followers and supporters.

01:11:55.600 Uh, you have your Twitter account as well.

01:11:57.200 New blue Ontario or new blue.

01:11:59.280 Uh, at new blue.

01:12:00.400 O N. 0.78

01:12:00.880 Uh, okay.

01:12:02.640 And, uh, I don't think you call it Twitter anymore.

01:12:06.080 I, we also call it Twitter.

01:12:07.600 And then it's at Jim Carhallius at, uh, Belinda Carhallius or B Carhallius.

01:12:13.200 I keep forgetting.

01:12:14.400 There's only one Belinda Carhallius though.

01:12:16.320 So yeah, I'll, I'll include the links in the description of the video.

01:12:19.760 So we're on Facebook, LinkedIn, all the fun stuff, tick tock, all the fun stuff.

01:12:26.080 Thanks man.

01:12:26.560 It was great chatting.

01:12:28.640 All right, brother.

01:12:29.360 February 27th vote new blue.

The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - February 25, 2025

Freedom Coffee Livestream ｜ EP#199 ｜ New Blue Ontario Jim Karahalios

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