Freedom Coffee Livestream ｜ EP#199 ｜ New Blue Ontario Jim Karahalios
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 12 minutes
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171.81036
Summary
In this episode, I sit down with my good friend Mike Harris to talk about how he got into politics, why he decided to go to law school, and why he thought he was a conservative before he realized he was actually a liberal.
Transcript
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But I first wanted to start with something that you don't talk a lot about.
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And that's the fact that before politics, before going to law school, you went to school for engineering.
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And as Jordan Peterson said, when we were in a private call, the three of us together, he said, oh, finally, a politician who's had a real job.
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Let's just a couple of minutes on your background before you got into politics.
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I guess politics had some of it, some something to do with it.
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And being a lawyer doesn't help with anti-establishment voters.
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So when we go out speaking at events, I usually ask for forgiveness for being a lawyer.
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And then I went to into the master's program in civil engineering.
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And then from there, I went to law school against the wishes of my dad, because my dad, my late father, I think he would have preferred if I did a PhD or something serious.
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I guess when I was in engineering, I was more interested in who were making the rules on all the safety factors and government mandates on whether it was buildings or the transportation system or environmental policy that was starting to take up a lot of space in university discourse.
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Who's making this like Kyoto Accord and stuff on emissions?
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But the engineering doesn't really fit in the political world, because in engineering, you're taught to think right and wrong.
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Well, it's so true in politics, there's no right and wrong, like in politics with the establishment parties, especially it's like you go in there and you start talking logically, like, hold on, hold on a second.
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Like, the conservative parties against the carbon tax, but they voted for the Paris Accord, hold on, like, you can't have that logical analysis in establishment political parties.
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So that was probably like the beginning of the end for me in establishment politics.
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But they had me labeled really early on when I started volunteering in the conservative party.
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And it was in engineering that I got my first bite into politics, because I got involved in student politics in undergrad.
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But, you know, it was right in the days of Mike Harris.
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And I got involved in student government in the engineering department.
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There's like a couple million dollars of cash flowing through the student council.
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They were just burning it through, you know, pub nights and this and that.
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And then they started calling me Mike on campus because they thought I was like Mike Harris.
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So at that point, I didn't even know I was a conservative.
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I it wasn't until I went to law school when I realized I'm probably a conservative, because
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in law school, I was saying what I thought were pretty mainstream opinions from where
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And they were calling me, you know, George Bush lover, Jesus boy, just the most awful things
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The profs hated me, not all of them, but a lot of the left wingy profs didn't like me.
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And then I was like, all right, you guys think I'm a conservative.
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I was giving conservative opinions that I thought were just normal, normal, like what
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most people would think is just mainstream stuff.
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But in the law school context, when they're rabid left wingers looking for the next Marxist
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revolution, normal discourse they would categorize as very far right.
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I don't know what you're thinking, trying to bring that into politics, but yeah, it's definitely
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Well, I guess my dad kind of warned me, but I didn't listen to him.
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I often kind of say the some of the dumbest people I've ever met in my life are all in
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And in addition to that, you know, it's approximately 30 percent of people don't have a sense of
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humor and they're also all in politics as well.
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Because the lobbyists that control the parties.
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When they green light candidates to run for nomination, they don't want strong willed people
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and they don't want people that can that are very good speaking to a crowd off the cuff
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They want people that, you know, we're going to give you the script.
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You're not going to have the courage to stand up.
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Um, and they kind of force, um, independent, critical thinkers with a little bit of courage
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And, um, they definitely tried to push me out several times through various organizers in
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And the more they kind of push, the more I, I just kept getting involved.
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Like, I, I don't know, there was just something about it that I just, I just ignored that person
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and said, you know, why am I going to take that person's insult?
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Um, a lot of the insults came from like these organizers that profess to be social conservatives
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They don't, they especially the pro-life and social conservative organizers in the PC party
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and the conservative party do not want independent thinking, courageous conservatives in those
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parties that can organize groups of people on their own because then they can't control
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So they always go and manufacture someone, uh, who appears to be, you know, strong conservative,
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It's usually just kind of some phoniness and they manufacture some, you know, event that
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pops up in the media that a lot of people get drawn to.
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And now look at that courageous soul and let's rally behind them.
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And then they kind of have that group caught for a few years while that person stays popular.
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But anyone who's like an independent thinker that tries to get involved and knows how to
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organize on a campaign side, they get pushed out.
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And so for me, the way they pushed me out when they tried to, um, insult me, yell at
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Cause you can just keep getting involved on the local scene.
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So eventually what they did is just, they threw me out and publicly humiliated me.
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Um, or tried to, but they, you know, the, the, on the PC side, it was Patrick Brown's
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team sued me and they lost in court and then Doug Ford's team rigged the convention against
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And then I ran federally for the conservative party and Patrick Brown's team was running
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And, um, that's when I think they figured, uh, no, that's not when they figured, I know
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they realized then that, um, okay, he can organize because they, that was the first election in
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Canadian, uh, first leadership campaign in Canadian, uh, history with such a high entry
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fee where they jacked it from a hundred thousand to 300.
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And I remember they were doing that because they thought no one, but McKay and O'Toole and
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a couple of the people they, um, you know, manufactured to run could reach it.
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And, and, um, I learned after the fact that they let me in the race because they thought
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I wasn't going to raise the money and we raised it in about four to six weeks.
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And that's when they kicked me out of the leadership and, um, we sued them.
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We won the judge, put me back on the bow and then they kicked me out the next day again.
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And at that point in time, we're past the membership cutoff.
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Derek Sloan was out there campaigning, ripping my campaign off so he could keep as many of
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the conservatives in the party to help O'Toole beat McKay.
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And then you reached out actually, because it was over, uh, it was over, um, um, was over
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an issue that we agreed with, um, and you reached out and we connected and that, yeah, that was
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a pretty low point in time for me and, um, yeah, you're a great support.
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So, uh, yeah, ever since then, we've known each other.
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It's really interesting because we were both involved in politics, but on kind of different
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It's not necessarily that we were in contravention with each other.
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Like I'm very libertarian, um, and you have a lot of libertarian leanings on fiscal issues.
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You're more social conservative than I am, but I'm not hostile towards social conservatives.
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Just, we were, we're, we had some commonality, but we're working things from opposite ends of
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And so I didn't really know you cause we never, our paths never crossed.
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Uh, and, uh, when I saw, you know, what they did to you, like I was, I was so pissed, uh,
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because there are a lot of us across the country that were inspired that finally, finally, like
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Trump, finally, somebody is reading the room of everything that we're all thinking and isn't
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And, uh, you know, that's, that's what politics is made up of in, in Canada is really frustrating.
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And then to add insult to injury, you know, we connected very quickly.
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I remember we went to, for coffee on Danforth, you know, your family being Greek, me living
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in the neighborhood and, um, you know, you were diagnosed with cancer.
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And what I found just horrifying about the garbage that is in establishment politics,
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and this is for regular people who are watching this, you know, you had people that you had
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been friends with for 15 years that were very close to you, that came to your wedding, that
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didn't even have the decency to call you and say, Hey Jim, how are you?
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I remember when I met you for coffee, my right leg was in pain.
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And I drove from Cambridge down to the Danforth.
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And, uh, it was right after the, um, lawsuit, uh, had concluded itself and I got put on the
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I was out and then I was wrapping up the campaign and I was limping.
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And then a few weeks later, it turned out that that was, um, um, I guess it took me till
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the fall to figure out, um, through scans and stuff that it was a tumor in my leg.
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Like, and, um, at that point in time, I'd already upset those former friends because
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how dare I run for leader of the Conservative Party of Canada without asking their permission.
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And, um, yeah, I realized those people weren't really friends at the end of the day and the
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Conservative Party and the PC party, they're like a cult, right?
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So if you're in and you do what they say, then you're okay.
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But if you dare, um, and when I say do what they say, that includes, they dump on you and
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So, um, and that's probably why they didn't want me involved from the beginning.
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Cause they knew that I, that's not just, I wasn't raised like that.
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Like, I don't, uh, you don't just dump on me and then I take it so that you could pat
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me on the head and say, you're a good boy, um, and those, you know, people like us sooner
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Um, um, and then, um, we started the new blue shortly after you and I met for coffee.
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Like we announced that we had registered the name, but you're forgetting, but you're forgetting
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Which was, cause remember a lot of people who are watching this may not be familiar with
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you, that your wife Belinda was a member of provincial parliament at the same time.
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I didn't forget that she was a member of parliament.
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I forgot that she got kicked out somewhere between me meeting you with, so I got kicked
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So I got kicked out of the leadership because I called out Aaron O'Toole's campaign chair.
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Or saying in the Globe and Mail article, pro Sharia finance comments.
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So they branded me with a Islamophobia label for quoting him, which I think is hilarious.
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Um, and do you remember a lot of the establishment in the Jewish community also dumped on me on
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Like I'm the candidate in the conservative leadership race.
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That's the most pro Israel candidate on the ballot.
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And they're dumping on me because I, I quoted Waleed Solomon and his support for Sharia finance
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The, um, that's probably where that's the thing we have in common policy wise, which is, um,
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strong advocates in favor of Israel and defending Jews and opposition to sympathizers of radical
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Like that, that was, I think, policy wise what made us click.
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It wasn't, it wasn't, you know, my pro-life beliefs, uh, uh, for sure.
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Um, um, and then from the time you and me had coffee, it was like six weeks after or eight weeks after the trial
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ends with the conservative party that Ford kicks Belinda out of the legislature, out of the legislature,
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out of the PC caucus because she voted against, um, his first COVID mandates, uh, bill, his first piece
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of legislation that gave him dictatorial powers.
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So, you know, that summer was the summer of like the PC establishment cleaning out the Karahaliuses
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We got to get this guy out of here and get his wife out of there.
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You touched on something important that people don't understand.
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They very much, or at least the establishment parties ones are.
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We, um, and, and there's another small party that works like a cult.
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Our party has, uh, candidates, uh, with all kinds of various opinions.
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And, uh, I don't have the energy to go around telling everyone what to think.
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So, you know, some of you might, uh, you might see one of our 108 candidates that takes a position
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They might not be as, um, ardent supporters of Jews defending themselves in Israel.
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Um, you know, they're, but what we're doing with the new blue parties, we're unifying all kinds of different people that had places in other parties before.
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So, for example, we've got candidates that ran for the PPC.
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We've got candidates that ran for the conservative party.
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We've got candidates that were involved in the libertarian party before.
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We have a candidate who ran for the none of the above party before.
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And we have candidates who were either running for or part of the board of a couple other smaller parties, like the Ontario party, the Ontario Alliance party.
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We have Bridget Belton who ran against us last election with Sloan's team.
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And now she's running for us when she discovered what the Sloan team's raison d'etre is, is to just dump all over Jim.
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But I used to, remember like I was a little, like I was annoyed with them in 20, uh, in the last election cycle, 22.
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And now I'm like, I think it's hilarious that they wake up, Derek, Tom, and Randy wake up every morning.
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And their entire reason for doing what they're doing is to just oppose Jim Carahalios.
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Like that's their, let's just go and stalk them.
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Um, but you know what the connection is with the cancer?
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I see these like fake, uh, social media accounts sometimes that say, oh, the Carahalios has never did anything, uh, during, uh, COVID to stand up for people.
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Sitting behind a, a, a social media cigarette and getting drunk.
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Like a fake social media account and saying stuff.
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And you know, Randy likes to rewrite history and suggest that he stood up to Doug Ford and Dean French over COVID.
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Somehow Randy knew in 2019 when he got kicked out of the, out of the PC caucus that COVID was coming.
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Randy got kicked out because he had an argument with Dean French.
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And because Randy endorsed the red Tory in the PC leadership race, Christine Elliott over Doug Ford.
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But the first year of we're trying to establish new blue, we register for the name in September, October, 2020, because Belinda got kicked out July, August, something like that.
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And it takes until 2021, February to get the name registered.
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Well, I get diagnosed with cancer, November, December, 2020.
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And I'm with a full leg cast and a tumor and a broken femur for three months.
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And then I have major reconstructive surgery in March, 2021, another three rounds of chemo.
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So I'm on my back from December, 2020 until May, 2021.
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Then I'm on heavy antibiotics, May, June, July.
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And the first chance I get August, I'm back on my feet and I'm doing events.
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And like, I haven't eaten in eight months and I'm, and I'm limping with the cane.
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I haven't learned how to walk because I've got my femur replaced, a full knee replacement, half my quads gone.
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And now Randy and Tom have the gall to use the history of me fighting and recovering from cancer to suggest that I wasn't active on COVID because I couldn't go to events while I was recovering from tumors.
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Like these guys are so low, like the depths of their depravity could only be learned in the PC culture that they grew.
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Remember during the convoy on the fourth, I broke my ankle.
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Woke up in the hospital the next morning, slept for the day.
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And the next day I was back at it doing interviews, you know, on Deloitte, it was on stage, whatever.
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He was never around because he was in hospital with a shattered leg.
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But they don't even like, there's no limits to how much they lie.
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And, uh, that, the convoy, I remember showing up in the freezing cold because I had just
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And I wasn't really fully going out of the house yet.
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And the convoy was the first time I had been in a crowd.
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And, uh, boy, that was like, that was, you know, I was pretty nervous because I had to
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And the, and the people in charge of the mic didn't want me to get up on the stage.
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We rented the mic and they wouldn't let me use it.
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And then remember Ezra Levent jumped on stage, grabbed your mic and gave you no credit for
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He dumped all over you at the end of the convoy.
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Because he's, well, he did that tweet at the end of the convoy when you were, uh, when
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you put that tweet out saying it's time to go so you don't get trampled on by horses.
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And he said, you're, and I remember the tweet because I couldn't believe he put it out.
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He put out that tweet saying, it looks like you're abandoning everyone.
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I didn't see his fat ass with us the entire time.
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But the, but the best part is a year later or whenever the inquiry is going on and it comes
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out that Keith Wilson, Tom Maratso and Tamara are all at that time plotting the running
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That was an exercise in heroism by Keith and Tom plotting behind everyone's back with the
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government to get out of town as fast as possible by, by getting everyone to move their trucks
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But you telling everyone the convoy leaders are going to leave.
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I thought that was obviously low that he did that.
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And he, Ezra's never had me on for an interview since, since, um, before I got diagnosed for
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cancer, never had me on again, but that's why you have credibility.
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And men's a nice guy, but he's always takes a little jab here and there.
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And this election, we haven't been asked by the rebel to go on.
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And the reason is because they can't put Sloan on.
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So, um, because Sloan's not really running a campaign, put Sloan on, then they'd put us
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So people on the, the pro, the, the social conservative side really didn't.
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Some of them understood this, but a lot of them didn't, I started, uh, um, a group with
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some friends and some customers of mine at my business called LGB Tori.
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Oh, I'll never, I'll never let you like, I'll never forgive you for that.
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But it was all about, all about breaking the communist hold of, over that community who
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And most of them would tell me like, I want to vote conservative, but if I vote conservative,
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then nobody will talk to me in the neighborhood anymore because you get ostracized.
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And the other motivation you told me was you were trying to show that community that sympathizing
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with radical Islam is not really good for their, for them.
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There's so many people in the country that have been brainwashed, which is what I saw, what
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And I think it worked because a lot of them started having conversations about radical
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Islam and why these alien values are in our, in our country, that they shouldn't be in our
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And then that's, that eventually culminated in us putting together this policy for new blue
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I want to hear your comments about it because you know how voters are.
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The policy was put together as tabled at the floor at your convention.
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It's under communities, page two of our policy declaration on newblueontario.com and it's
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The new blue party supports defunding any organization receiving public funding that supports boycott,
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divestment and sanctions, BDS, or other campaigns targeting Israel, its economy or local Jewish
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We're in a state where that community has been desperate for a long time for any leadership
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in any party to stop talking out of both sides of their mouths and actually address
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So finally, there is a party in Canada that has put it in writing and it has passed the
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Yet you put, you show people within that same community.
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Maybe they're the same Jews who stabbed you in the back because you tried to point to some
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You know, real conservatives, true conservatives.
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The elitist Jews who supported the guy in favor of Sharia finance over me who supports
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What is required to get people to wake up and to make them realize that here you go.
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Don't cry to me about anti-Semitism anymore because you finally have the policy here.
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Well, we're the first party and we got to go back to that Derek Sloan story that you
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We're the first party that has members putting forward policy ideas and then we get together
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for a convention and members vote on the policies and the ones that pass make up our policy
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There's no other provincial party in Ontario that does that.
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Certainly, there's no other right of center political party in Ontario that does that.
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Whatever party Randy Hillier is making any given year doesn't do that.
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And the policy declaration has very strong right of center policies.
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And one of them that I'm really proud of, because I've always been a supporter of Israel's right
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I grew up in a Orthodox Jewish community in North York.
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And I'm acutely aware of the anti-Semitism in different community groups and also in university
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I spent way too much time in university, so I know.
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I guess your question is, why aren't more Jewish voters voting New Blue then?
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I think it's important to separate the elitist ones, the talking heads on social media or the
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However, they're never going to come on side until we become, we replace the PC party, right?
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Like they're going to be the last ones to come on side.
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Because we're new and, you know, they're defending their self-interest.
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I was having this conversation with one of our local riding presidents, and we were talking
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about a candidate that's running for another smaller party that's fighting the indoctrination
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And this candidate I met at the convoy, actually.
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I met, I went to his house, and we had a one-on-one with a couple other people.
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And I told him, you could run for the New Blue.
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And he came to our New Blue meeting in Ottawa the next day.
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And then after that, I never heard from him again.
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And he started hanging out with the elitists in the conservative party circles.
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And I started seeing pictures on social media, all the people that trash me, right?
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So he's plugged into that group of people who say, you know, I know this professor that
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And I know, you know, I talked to the head of this association, and I talked to the head
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And I know this guy that wrote the op-ed, and that kind of, you know, he's in that circle
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And I think it's important to distinguish between like two types of activists on the conservative
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There's the activist that stands for the anti-woke stuff that we're talking about, fiscal conservatism.
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We'll write an op-ed, but half of their reason for existing is networking with those important
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And they will not advocate and fight for the proper solution if it means getting alienated
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So if the professor that writes for the Fraser Institute and has an article in the National
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Post is going to cut them off because that person's running for new blue, they won't do
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Some of them have made their way to municipal council, like Rhonda Juvenville, Dave Brunel.
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Others used to be on council, like Stephen Kittris in Wellington Halton Hills.
00:31:18.020
These are grassroots activists that see the problem and really don't care if they're getting
00:31:23.800
cut out of important social circles because they're doing the right thing.
00:31:30.240
We have people that are more interested in the fight and doing the right thing than they're
00:31:35.140
interested in being the important social circles and knowing the important people, right?
00:31:41.220
And so I don't really care too much about the people that are caught up in the status
00:31:46.920
of who they know and the who's who, because that's not what the new blue party was created
00:31:51.260
for and we're never going to win those people over.
00:31:53.640
That's a small percentage of the population, though.
00:31:56.060
The vast majority of people who agree with the new blue policies.
00:31:59.000
It's going to take two more things to get their vote.
00:32:01.660
Number one, a lot of those people haven't heard a new blue because we've only been around
00:32:14.260
This interview, even if it gets tens of thousands, a hundred thousand views is not enough.
00:32:20.680
It needs longevity and repetition and it needs people that know the new blue to talk to their
00:32:28.360
friends, to tell them this is the party to vote for.
00:32:30.840
They're not going to switch their vote just by watching a video or seeing a lawn sign or
00:32:35.960
watching one interview for me until they meet me or they meet someone that votes for the
00:32:41.180
new blue that they trust that convinces them to change their vote.
00:32:45.640
And this is studies that have been done on politics dating back to the days of Nixon.
00:32:51.640
This is how the most dependable, dependable way of switching a vote is the one on one
00:32:57.840
And there's no quick two year solution for that.
00:33:00.540
There's no 10 million dollars, which we don't have, but, you know, budget to do radio TV ads
00:33:08.080
It just takes time and they've got to know what the new blue is.
00:33:11.400
And I don't mean no, like, oh, we saw their sign once, like they got to know what it's
00:33:14.760
about and then they have to know that the new blue is sticking around and that, um, it's
00:33:26.940
So it's kind of like the corporate culture of the party they need to understand.
00:33:30.840
And the establishment parties is basically just the movie mean girls.
00:33:37.240
Uh, so, so, all right, you really wanted me to tell about, uh, that idiot, uh, what's
00:33:45.140
Is this before anyone knew who he was before he ran for leader?
00:33:50.300
That's, that's, that's, so, so we're, a lot of people upset about this, but good, good.
00:33:57.940
You know, the truth is upsetting, but the truth will set you free.
00:34:02.020
So they're, um, we're putting this, this together, this organization in my sort of local
00:34:08.920
community in downtown Toronto and trying to break the communist Islamist block, the red
00:34:14.940
green Alliance that's gotten a hold of the gay community.
00:34:17.800
Many of whom have lots of pay, lots of taxes, have lots of businesses.
00:34:25.020
So, you know, there, there are some people there.
00:34:27.520
If you want to build in the cities, there's some good people there.
00:34:30.180
Anyways, the campaign chair, uh, or campaign manager, I can't remember what it was for
00:34:38.300
Derek Sloan was the vice president of LGB Tory.
00:34:43.100
Is this when he was running locally at the riding level?
00:34:45.580
No, when he was running, uh, to be member of parliament.
00:34:50.280
But not for leader when he's running to be an MP.
00:34:55.520
And I was at a political event close to here at the Evergreens, right down the street.
00:35:02.740
And, uh, my friend brings this guy over and says, you know, I want to introduce you to my
00:35:15.460
I didn't really care, but, you know, give him a couple minutes and whatever.
00:35:18.680
And then he starts talking to me that Derek Sloan starts telling me about the LGBT community,
00:35:32.540
And, uh, he's like, no, no, we really got to make headwinds with those, with that community.
00:35:38.700
And I said to him, you know, the real problem for the LGBT community, to be entirely honest,
00:35:53.020
And he kept saying, no, but, you know, those are people.
00:35:55.700
And I felt like, I started thinking, I think he's gay.
00:35:59.740
Because I've, listen, I've known, listen, I've met my fair share of closeted homosexuals.
00:36:06.860
And I'm talking to this guy and he just wouldn't let up at how much he loved the LGBT community
00:36:11.340
to the point that the head of LGBT is like, dude, you got to chill out enough already.
00:36:17.600
So he, someone didn't tell him that he was going to be running for leader of the conservative
00:36:28.960
And then, I don't know, what it was a month after he got elected, he, he puts on the SOCON
00:36:34.400
skin suit and all of a sudden now he's a, a social cons, I'm, I'm pretty sure.
00:36:40.220
He didn't do, he didn't do any of the social conservative stuff.
00:36:43.380
Even when he announced that he was running for leader of the conservative party, he didn't
00:36:48.200
It was a good two weeks into his leadership for conservative party leader that, um, the
00:36:57.300
And they said, you've got to run like this and position yourself like this and emulate
00:37:02.680
what that guy's doing, which was me because, and then he started changing his tune.
00:37:07.800
He wasn't known as a pro-life social conservative in the party.
00:37:14.040
There was no statement of his conservative values.
00:37:16.920
And like you're saying, he was going out saying the complete opposite.
00:37:20.020
Like, I don't think you'll find anyone that ever said Jim Corralius was trying to get
00:37:27.380
Like, uh, never happened when I was helping Monty McNaughton or Tanya Granick Allen or Doug
00:37:33.680
When I first met him, which was at that event, it reminded me of many years prior when I was
00:37:40.580
younger, I used to work for an exotic car broker.
00:37:42.980
And the person who washed the cars looked like Derek Sloan and behaved like Derek Sloan.
00:37:56.920
It's hysterical to see this guy pranced around that he has any values whatsoever.
00:38:01.520
And you could see if you watched his old Facebook lives, his eyes, like he looks through
00:38:10.200
Well, I'm not going to clinically diagnose him, but I've never, I think I met him.
00:38:30.480
And, um, uh, yeah, I don't think we ever met actually now that I'm thinking, I think we
00:38:38.180
And at that point in time, I already blew the whistle on what he was all about.
00:38:42.200
And we spoke on the phone once or twice because I wanted to confirm that this meeting that his
00:38:48.000
close advisor, Michael Thiessen was going to, my, his, these pastors at Liberty Coalition
00:38:56.100
And I said, fine, any day, any time I come into this meeting to talk about unifying these
00:39:04.380
And, um, so I got on the phone with Derek Sloan and I said, are you going to this meeting?
00:39:11.660
And then they canceled the meeting two days later.
00:39:13.240
And then they started creating Randy Hilliard's party.
00:39:16.780
And then they started creating Derek Sloan's party.
00:39:19.240
And he has the gall to say that I avoided the meeting when I was on the phone with him
00:39:24.300
That was the second conversation we either had.
00:39:26.320
The first conversation I had with him was in the conservative leadership race when he
00:39:33.140
And, uh, I said, you should check with his advisor, John, and, uh, make sure that John
00:39:38.760
wants that, wants me to endorse you because John doesn't like me, I said, and, uh, I said,
00:39:44.520
are you using the endorsement to, uh, help Aaron O'Toole win?
00:39:51.020
So, cause I wasn't endorsing a guy that was going to try to help Aaron O'Toole beat Peter
00:39:55.220
McKay, which is exactly what he was in the race to do.
00:40:00.400
Look, they're a non-factor in this election because they only got 40 candidates and I think
00:40:04.920
they, um, underestimated how many candidates we were going to get at 108 and they overestimated
00:40:15.560
Um, and they were able to get about 39 or 40, um, uh, this time.
00:40:20.740
So they're not able to match us in as many ridings.
00:40:23.940
Um, and anyone who votes for them, I feel really sad, um, because they're either getting
00:40:28.200
fooled by, um, uh, they're getting bamboozled by the rhetoric, uh, or.
00:40:34.920
They're voters that know that they're voting for that party to stop the new blue and preserve
00:40:44.980
I believe that there are voters that talk to the elites in PC circles and operatives.
00:40:50.280
And they're being told that we just got to wait it out.
00:40:53.500
And the next leadership, uh, I had hair when I started hearing this next leadership talk
00:41:00.220
But I do believe that there are lots of voters that think this, we just got to wait it out.
00:41:04.620
And when Doug Ford goes, we'll have another leadership and we'll get someone in there
00:41:11.740
People are fooled, uh, by this type of rhetoric.
00:41:14.840
Well, speaking of Doug Ford, when I share something I have on here, I thought you might
00:41:21.600
And I'm looking up in the sky cause I have a monitor to my left.
00:41:29.360
So it turns out that the biggest export of Canada was testosterone.
00:41:34.420
Um, there's something about, they're also going to have some tariffs on American stuff
00:41:39.440
So this is, uh, for those who are listening, this is Scott Adams on his daily podcast, Coffee
00:41:49.300
We may never even notice because the difference in size of our markets is such that their tariffs
00:41:57.580
But it gets better, uh, Doug Ford, the, uh, the premier of Ontario, he's not going to have
00:42:07.340
So he's decided that he's not going to give, um, contracts to Americans for some stuff they're
00:42:14.000
doing in Ontario to which I say, well, wait a minute, why would Americans get those contracts
00:42:21.340
Uh, I can only think of one reason that they were the best bid.
00:42:29.580
So to hurt us, they're going to use the people who are not as good to build their stuff.
00:42:39.440
You know, there was a reason you picked American companies, but they, if you can do it on your
00:42:46.740
He decided that he was going to, uh, turn off access, at least in Ontario, uh, to Starlink.
00:43:10.300
They're going to turn off their own internet to, to, to teach us a lesson.
00:43:14.420
They're going to turn off their own internet, but they're also sad.
00:43:19.460
That's, uh, that's, uh, how Doug Ford is known in the United States now amongst Scott,
00:43:27.480
Doug used to think that, Doug used to think that the way that Rob's substance abuse problems
00:43:36.480
But Rob had like a real problem that he was fighting with.
00:43:39.280
Doug doesn't have a problem except for he's an empty suit.
00:43:44.460
And now he's really embarrassing the Ford brand, right?
00:43:47.120
The way he's handling this tariff challenge with, uh, the Trump administration.
00:43:51.920
He's, he's really showing everyone that he doesn't know how to govern Ontario.
00:43:56.320
And the only thing he's got going for him is there's only nine days, eight days left, uh,
00:44:02.680
And so, uh, people just might not, uh, figure it out in time for E-Day, but, um, talk about
00:44:08.780
dropping the ball and, um, and trying to fight back in a way that just hurts Ontarians, right?
00:44:15.120
And it's amazing how he does a good job, Adams, of, uh, of describing it in a really pithy,
00:44:23.020
But it's not that funny because the people that are going to suffer the most is like rural Ontario
00:44:28.160
who needs that, need that contract to, to broaden the internet services in Ontario.
00:44:33.720
And, um, do you remember back when Biden supposedly beat Trump and Biden took over as a president?
00:44:42.200
Remember when I was pointing to you on social media, all the PC lobbyists and activists
00:44:46.560
and the people behind Ford in the premier's office who were cheering about how happy they
00:44:55.380
And, and, and now the Ford administration, like no one knows this, right?
00:44:59.140
Cause the press doesn't report this, but the Trump administration knows that.
00:45:03.360
Like they know that they don't have an ally in the Ford administration or in the conservative
00:45:10.680
So there's really no one on the Canadian side that can go, um, to the Trump administration
00:45:17.300
and have some advanced conversations before the tariffs kick in.
00:45:22.240
And, you know, I'm not, I'm not a huge fan of Danielle Smith's because she's got a checkered
00:45:26.340
past when she was the leader of, um, uh, the wild rose out there.
00:45:34.040
I think Belinda had a local Cambridge debate the other day and she said it best, like Doug
00:45:38.020
Ford couldn't even get invited down there for a meeting.
00:45:40.080
Like he needs no access premier of Ontario, biggest province in Canada, and he can't
00:45:46.520
get access to have a meeting with a Trump, uh, admin official, senior official to talk
00:45:52.980
Should I tell you a funny story about Doug Ford?
00:46:01.460
So when Doug was running, uh, for premier or running for leader after the whole Patrick
00:46:07.380
Bound thing, he was calling absolutely everybody who is an influencer in the party.
00:46:14.820
And I think on the second day I was reached out to, so Doug really wants to talk to you.
00:46:23.380
It's very enthusiastic, but LGB Tory is really, can I count on your support?
00:46:30.820
Can we get the LGB Tory people in the tens of votes that that was going to drive in the
00:46:36.940
I mean, there's Doug Ford, you know, champion of LGBTQ rights.
00:46:45.260
All of them, you know, that's the sad part about it.
00:46:48.140
And you know, the millions of dollars they raise, uh, for these leadership races, right.
00:46:51.960
And they get some empty suit to come forward, pretend they're a big conservative, um, and
00:46:57.860
That's going to be a big challenge for the new blue whenever, because the conservative
00:47:01.680
establishment, PC establishment is waiting for the day they can replace Doug Ford and
00:47:05.820
bring back a lot of the base that they've burned.
00:47:08.680
Cause they're, they're relying on a lot of liberal vote now, right.
00:47:14.540
Eventually that's going to crater because the liberals are going to figure it out.
00:47:19.500
Eventually they're going to, the liberals are going to get their base back eventually.
00:47:22.560
And then the PCs are going to have to come back and get the conservative base that they've
00:47:29.360
A lot of that conservative base is either not voting.
00:47:36.660
So they're going to go into another leadership race.
00:47:40.360
They're going to create these, you know, icons of conservatism heroes out of the blue.
00:47:49.080
Cause we're not going to just sit back and say nothing when that happens.
00:47:53.080
We're going to have to call it out in the middle of that leadership.
00:47:58.640
Well, you got to make sure when that happens years in the future, you got to tell the conservatives,
00:48:06.720
Don't split the vote by voting in the Ontario PC.
00:48:09.800
We've got to, we've got to keep growing though, because even in between elections, like people,
00:48:17.240
I think, um, there's some people that just think, you know, it's about winning a seat
00:48:21.140
And, you know, obviously you have a political party, you're trying to win seats, but the
00:48:25.500
in between elections and in the growth stage where you're starting as a startup until you
00:48:31.080
There's a lot that can be done to hold the, um, uh, establishment parties to account, hold
00:48:37.520
their feet to the fire, expose what's going on to, um, people that are interested to know
00:48:44.360
And, um, the, the good news is the optimism is you can't fix the PC party from the inside.
00:48:54.200
That's depressing for some people, but the good news is this all three parties, the establishment
00:48:59.700
Um, so when you convince one or change one on, for example, the carbon tax issue, um,
00:49:06.720
all three parties, uh, line up with their policies and they start backtracking the carbon
00:49:14.240
With the liberals, when you convince them on drug injection sites, the way Belinda advocated,
00:49:19.540
they'll never give the credit to Belinda, but then all three parties stop pushing drug
00:49:26.300
So they might not come out and say it, but you see very quickly that all three parties
00:49:31.960
And so the optimism or the silver lining for the new blue is in between elections.
00:49:36.080
If we can raise an issue, put it on the map, change one of them, that means we're changing
00:49:43.760
Um, so don't waste your vote in this election voting for one of the establishment parties
00:49:51.100
Um, and is only there just to hurt the new blue, uh, or try to hurt the new blue vote
00:49:56.920
Cause every vote you give the new blue strengthens what we stand for and gives us a stronger,
00:50:01.320
uh, position to, um, challenge to the left, balance the narrative and change the course,
00:50:07.520
which is what we're, um, trying to do every day.
00:50:11.380
I'm going to play another quick little video and it's from Patrick Boyle and, uh, touch a
00:50:19.640
little bit on DEI and what he's going to talk about in this video.
00:50:25.600
According to the press, a lot of the tech layoffs have been in ESG areas where the big
00:50:31.800
tech firms have started abandoning their woke policies as part of their cost cutting.
00:50:37.140
The New York Post reported that Microsoft laid off a team devoted to diversity, equity
00:50:42.920
and inclusion after spending millions of dollars on the initiative.
00:50:47.760
One of the signs of the overhiring may have been the woman that they hired away from the
00:50:52.560
land registry who would read out the property title before every meeting.
00:50:56.840
First, we want to acknowledge that the land where the Microsoft campus is situated was
00:51:02.960
traditionally occupied by the Sammamish, the Duwamish, the Snoqualmie, the Suquamish,
00:51:10.440
the Muckleshoot, the Snohomish, the Tulalip, and other Coast Salish peoples since time immemorial.
00:51:18.320
Maybe I should look up who owned this office before me and say something nice about them
00:51:27.360
So I saw that and I thought of DEI Doug and it sounds like Silicon Valley is more conservative
00:51:36.000
and right wing than Doug Ford is at this point.
00:51:41.000
And also, uh, something that's my pet hate, which is this land acknowledgement nonsense,
00:51:53.820
Um, you know, last year at the, I took my son to a Leaf game, this first Leaf game and
00:51:59.860
they did the land acknowledgement and then we got one this year.
00:52:03.180
And I think they stopped doing it at Leaf games.
00:52:08.620
I think so, but I'm not a hundred percent sure, but that was an example of, um, where I've
00:52:14.880
seen, um, on a large scale, like they're kind of retreating from it and, um, uh, it's too
00:52:26.280
You know, uh, when you played that clip, it reminded me of, um, and you asked the question,
00:52:32.500
reminding me of this other piece of propaganda, which is as bad as the PCs are, imagine how
00:52:41.420
If the liberals weren't power, of course, always that.
00:52:45.860
And it's an effective like piece of manipulation because it can really, uh, capture a hold of
00:52:52.300
you and it's, it's, it's asking you to use your imagination of like this supposed liberal
00:53:03.000
So then you look at Doug Ford in a few weeks ago, a couple of months ago, Belinda blew
00:53:07.500
the whistle on the fact that his government is still putting money into and promoting
00:53:14.060
DEI initiatives in education and healthcare and other government sectors.
00:53:18.880
So he's actually ramped it up from Kathleen Wynne's time.
00:53:23.720
He's actually doing more of it than Kathleen Wynne ever did.
00:53:28.320
And it was his government that, um, it was the PC government that asked Waleed to do a
00:53:37.180
And the recommendation there was that every business listed on the stock exchange, the
00:53:43.360
TSC, um, had to have, um, racial and gender quotas for their boards.
00:53:50.500
A massive, that would be just devastating on, on, um, securities and stocks, um, uh, on the
00:54:00.440
This is all coming from a PC government, these types of things.
00:54:08.660
And in many ways they're worse than the liberals because, and I say this and shocking to people
00:54:14.040
to hear because when a PC is doing it, it's really being done under the radar and no one
00:54:19.340
knows it's being done because when you have the NDP or the liberals do it, you've got your
00:54:25.100
establishment outfits like the sun or the post, they'll write about it and they'll let everyone
00:54:29.720
know because they want conservatives to know that this is going on.
00:54:34.100
But when you got Doug Ford and the PCs doing a lot of this stuff, no one knows, or very few
00:54:39.300
people know, or the only people that know, or the people that follow the new blue, um,
00:54:44.160
very few people outside of that know because there is no party in the legislature blowing
00:54:49.940
the whistle and the establishment media is not talking about it because they don't want
00:54:53.640
to embarrass the PC government, which is supposed to be nominally conservative, right?
00:54:58.600
And that's why I say it's actually worse because it comes in under the radar by stealth and it
00:55:03.420
can really cement itself in there, um, makes it harder to get rid of.
00:55:07.920
And from my perspective, and I, I don't think you'll disagree with this.
00:55:15.360
But the reason Canada is becoming perceived as a very left-wing country, or at least our
00:55:22.040
governance is, is because the coward, the conservatives are cowards and they're frauds.
00:55:28.940
And so the left are the ones who have hold of the Overton window because the conservatives
00:55:35.200
come out and LARP as conservatives, but they don't really push like the left does.
00:55:41.160
The left pushes, the, the conservatives always cede ground to them.
00:55:46.400
And then the left pushes more, the conservatives cede more ground.
00:55:49.960
This is why, from my perspective, I, it's very important.
00:55:55.920
That's why, look, you're more social conservative than I am, but you know, I'm very sympathetic
00:56:00.640
and supportive of social conservatives because that's going to be the solution from the left
00:56:08.220
Having social conservatives grab it and bring it back.
00:56:17.420
Um, I'm not really a big believer in this Overton window stuff.
00:56:21.420
I think the, I think those are all theories that like the political science PhDs like to
00:56:31.700
Like the reality is if, if you can, um, if you can get the microphone and do a good job
00:56:39.100
selling a policy, most people in Ontario are conservative minded.
00:56:48.660
So I don't really think you need to shift the Overton window.
00:56:51.840
I mean, I started the acts, the carbon tax campaign with, um, with at the time, almost
00:56:56.780
every conservative leader was conceding on the carbon tax because Brad wall was the one
00:57:01.920
fighting against the Saskatchewan, the premier, he resigned.
00:57:06.500
And all the other conservative leaders were being really soft about it.
00:57:10.660
And, you know, within, I don't know, six to 12 months of a campaign on social media, it
00:57:17.780
caught wind and all the conservative leaders wanted to be against the carbon tax.
00:57:23.180
You just got to put the right information in front of people to, um, get them to agree
00:57:30.740
I think the biggest problem with, uh, these fake, like the PC party, it's not that they're
00:57:39.900
I was talking on another show the other day about Vic Fidelli and how he ended up in the
00:57:45.820
He's the minister of, uh, economic development.
00:57:48.400
I think he was the minister of finance for a brief period in the beginning of the Ford
00:57:54.520
Vic Fidelli was the mayor of a municipality up North and, um, he wanted to run for the
00:58:00.720
liberals and they said, no, they picked someone else.
00:58:03.760
So then he went over to the PCs, like Doug Ford is the Ford brother.
00:58:09.900
Um, who was a liberal, like he, he would kept badgering his brother, Rob.
00:58:15.460
That Rob was too conservative and he was telling Rob, he's gotta be like liberal, like Christine
00:58:22.880
Um, so they don't allow conservatives to run in their nominations or their leadership races.
00:58:29.800
Um, like in the beginning of the show, we're talking about, if you have courage and you
00:58:34.660
have independent thought and you have common sense ideas, they're not letting you run in
00:58:40.300
Um, and so the back room is controlled by lobbyists that are all the same, like the, the lobbyists
00:58:46.200
that are in charge of the NDP, liberal PCs, they're all the same and all in business with
00:58:51.320
And they're all like, uh, left-wing ideologues.
00:58:54.360
So going into this, uh, election, we'll, we'll button it up in a couple of minutes here.
00:59:03.980
You've put together this policy declaration that was voted on by grassroots.
00:59:08.680
I know, cause I was there voting and participated in it.
00:59:11.980
And I saw for the first time, like a legitimate party that operated where like there were, there's
00:59:22.740
There was not unanimous, um, agreement on all these policies, not at all, but it was
00:59:29.740
Some of them got moved on the floor and didn't make it through.
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And there was some good debate and heated debate, but it was, I thought it was very healthy.
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And after all of it, it was like, it was like people having a boxing match.
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Once they're finished, they come out, they hug each other and like, better luck next time
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I disagreed this, but everybody's kind of all friends.
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Um, what are you most proud of and you know, what you and Belinda have accomplished and what's
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Um, like for you personally too, like, cause everything that you guys have been through,
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uh, at the same time that you were diagnosed and fighting cancer, she was thrown out of the party
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And, you know, many of the people around you, your social circles abandoned you.
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Um, I didn't, and a few others didn't, but everybody else did.
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Um, so I know you, you must have a, an evolved view of the world over the past few years.
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Kind of what, what, what are you, what are you most proud of maybe in your policy declarations?
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Like, and, and where do you see this all going?
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Look, I could talk about, um, a bunch of political things that I think are, are, um, things that
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Um, the fact that we had 123 candidates last time and we got 108 this time in a snap election,
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the middle of winter, we didn't, you know, there was a time we thought we weren't going
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at more than 40 and 108 step forward and they're better.
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It's a better group of candidates than last time.
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I could talk about the fact that we have a policy declaration, um, from a grassroots policy
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Um, I could talk about the fact that I'm pretty sure more people in Ontario know what the new
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And that's really good when like, when the party brand is stronger than the leader, if you
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are serious about having a party that you want to survive beyond my time in politics, then
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I could sit here and tell you, Oh, I'm, I'm proud that acts the carbon tax is the phrase
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Now when I started it, or that Belinda was the first on the scene to fight against drug
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injection sites, the first on the scene to call for tougher border measures on fentanyl.
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We were the first to talk about, um, uh, foreign interference in internal party elections and vote
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rigging, um, before anyone else wanted to talk about it.
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I think that the thing I'm most proud about is that we did all this, uh, stuff in politics
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and, um, I don't get the sense that it's negatively affected our family or my son.
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Um, he knows what the new blue is kind of finds it a little interesting, although a little
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Um, uh, but he's into sports and he's into his friends and he's into Lego.
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And, um, when Belinda was an MPP, uh, the cult down there at Queens park was telling her
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to get, uh, an apartment and only come home on, you know, when the legislature took breaks
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every three or four weeks and our son was four at the time.
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And then when I was sick with cancer, um, Belinda drove every day and she didn't meet.
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She didn't, she drove from Cambridge, Toronto and back every day.
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Didn't miss a chance to speak at Queens park when it was her turn, maybe once or twice.
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And on days when I had chemo in Toronto, we would go together to Mount Sinai.
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He would go to Queens park with the question that we were practicing.
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Like she was rehearsing with me and we were tightening up and she'd come back, pick me up
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And so, um, she didn't listen to the cult to say, you know, just forget about Jim, get
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someone to take care of him, get a nurse to take care of him.
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We didn't listen to them about, you know, your son will be fine.
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And, uh, our family as a unit survived, uh, all of that and survived all of the attacks
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from the trolls on social media that continue to troll us, the pastors, unscrupulous pastors
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that smeared us in the last election, whisper campaigns.
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And to be quite honest, we're stronger now than we were before.
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And we're in a better place because, um, you talk about people that I was friends with
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And I didn't really understand what they were all about.
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It's like this huge weight off your shoulders when you don't have to deal with them anymore.
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And I feel really sorry for the people that are in those establishment parties that are
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trying, or they think they're trying to advance and they've got, you know, um, how do I describe
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The, uh, it's not a very supportive place and they're surrounded by people that, um, are very
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transactional, really don't care about each other.
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Um, I don't think we have that in the new blue, uh, in the new blue, we've got people
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that want to be there and want to support each other.
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And you see the 108 candidates on social media helping each other.
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There were candidates that needed signatures in the last week, a couple of weeks ago for
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the cutoff candidates were driving into other ridings to help a handful of candidates
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So, um, um, you know, for us, it starts from our family and we just try to live that every
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Yeah, I think that's, um, I think that's important.
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It's, it's disappointing to see, you know, the side of politics that always talks about family
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It's, it's all plastic and it's fake and, uh, there's, there's a degree of mental illness
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that I saw a lot of amongst many of those people who are in politics and that's why it's, you're
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It is so refreshing to be completely away from all of that and not sucked into it because
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either you're a permanent boot licker and eventually you're just like, I've, I've said
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this, this sounds crazy to some people, but, and this is hype, it's hyperbolic, but partially
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out of entertainment, but there's some truth to this.
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You thought that's just kind of the left wing side of the, the political spectrum, but I've,
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I see that behavior amongst everybody in all the establishment parties.
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That's why I call it the uniparty and I've, yeah, I gave a speech recently in Florida and
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I was trying to explain to them how they're, they're complaining about their uniparty in
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the U S I'm like, no, no, no, you guys have no idea what it's like, so I kind of mapped
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out a few of the things there and they were just absolutely appalled.
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And that was the day after Trudeau was at Mar-a-Lago and was emasculated by Trump and Trump started
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saying you should be the 51st state and I had to field questions for like 45 minutes about
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But, um, yeah, people, once you see it on the inside, it's really kind of depressing.
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And that's why for me, when I see what you and Belinda have done, the reason, I mean,
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aside from the fact we become good friends over the years, but one of the reasons I think
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it's so important what you're doing is because this is kind of the last hope of something to
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fight against this scripted, uh, artificial and plastic political establishment.
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that's just a veneer because it's just one group of people run by a group of lobbyists
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And at least when I got involved, there was, um, there were still like elections to vote
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And so even though the like higher apparatus in the party was pretty cold and didn't really
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care about anybody who would throw anyone under the bus, um, and they were plastic and not
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real at the lower levels, the local levels, you can meet, you know, decent people, right?
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Like minor people, and you can get involved in nomination race and enjoy it.
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It's, it's only when you started pushing up, you know, maybe you want to be a candidate and
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you want it to get the green light or you start to press up against the real, uh, jerks.
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Like, I think that's what something, a lot of people don't understand that it's gone now.
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Like the Ford PCs haven't had an election to pick a candidate since 2018.
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So everyone's just appointed and everyone's just picked by the leader.
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That's how they got that guy in Milton to be the MPP.
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I'm sure that conservatives in Milton wouldn't have voted for the, uh, former liberal, um,
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who with a checkered antisemitic past in some of the circles he hangs out in, uh, as the candidate,
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So, um, if you want to get involved in politics, it's either, uh, you can't do it through them.
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You might not agree with all our positions, but if you think it's time to clean house and
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Um, uh, but definitely we're creating a political family that, um, the objective is that the brand,
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um, survives my time in politics and continues.
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And that's why I'm proud of the 108 candidates that we have really strong candidates.
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Um, and we're developing people that have the skills to keep it running both on the political
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side and the back room in terms of compliance with elections, Ontario and all that stuff.
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And it's a grind because they make it hard on you with all the laws and the regulations.
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Those are all designed to make it hard to run a political party.
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Um, but you know, uh, I think there's a chance that it will have staying power.
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So people can not only obviously vote for you in this election on the 27th,
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but they can also become members of the party and contribute and get involved as well.
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Um, and if you just find your local candidate in your riding and try to help them out,
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um, and spread the word, let your friends and family know new blue Ontario.com
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and understand that we're not an operation, um, funded by government with tens of millions of dollars.
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We don't have MPPs where we can have an office and you can walk in and bang your desk.
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This is a small team with hundreds of people spread out across the province,
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um, running for election in 108 different ridings.
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So there's a lot of ground to cover and, um, uh, everyone's doing it, um,
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adjacent to their full-time job and their families, right?
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This isn't a full-time job with those 108 candidates.
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And I hope we'll be celebrating something on election night.
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Well, I'm going to do my best to try to get everybody aware in, uh,
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in my circles and my follow followers and supporters.
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And, uh, I don't think you call it Twitter anymore.
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And then it's at Jim Carhallius at, uh, Belinda Carhallius or B Carhallius.
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So yeah, I'll, I'll include the links in the description of the video.
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So we're on Facebook, LinkedIn, all the fun stuff, tick tock, all the fun stuff.