00:01:35.580location. And at the same time, as it becomes more and more clear that Carney never intended
00:01:41.540to build a pipeline, he is going to start ticking off what I call the business liberal community.
00:01:47.200People who usually default to voting liberal. But if the economy gets really bad, they're kind of forced to go vote conservative. And with the economy's numbers just not being very good on pretty much any front, inflation, job numbers, GDP growth, especially GDP per capita growth, nothing is good right now.
00:02:08.460And with no pipeline coming down the line, well, yeah, a lot of these people are going to reassess whether or not they actually think that Mark Carney is some sort of a business guru.
00:02:18.800But in this video, we're going to go into a press conference first up here, Polly and the conservatives reacting to the news from the media that a lot of liberals are going around admitting that they have never even read the MOU and that they're not in favor of a pipeline.
00:02:32.380And then we're going to go to some of the interviews of the exiting Stephen Gilboa, talking about how the Liberal Party has somehow like, you know, there's like a big faction of inside the Liberal Party equally as upset as he is that Carney is even talking about a pipeline.
00:02:48.820It's all ridiculous, but we are going to get into it in a second.
00:02:52.300But first, just going to quickly mention, if you like the channel, make sure to leave a like on the video.
00:03:32.980It signals to me that it's all an illusion and that Mark Carney has told them it's never going to happen anyway.
00:03:39.460So ultimately, they believe Mark Carney was telling the truth when he wrote in his book Values that he wants to keep half of our oil and gas in the ground when he's tried to defund oil and gas.
00:03:51.040And when he said carbon taxes should be bigger and broader, liberal MPs who share that radical net zero anti-oil and gas agenda take great comfort in knowing that the prime minister privately agrees with them on that.
00:04:02.160now and yeah like and so why would you need to read the mou or even breeze over it if it wasn't
00:04:08.900going to happen that's probably the attitude inside the liberal party and what you have to
00:04:12.680understand about the liberal voting coalition although you and i would think you would be
00:04:17.240sensible to build a pipeline it's a little bit more of a tough call inside the liberal party
00:04:22.840like if you're a conservative government and you built a pipeline or two you're going to be really
00:04:27.640popular, especially with your voting base. The liberals, on the other hand, they will increase
00:04:33.380their popularity some places, and they may actually decrease their popularity other places.
00:04:39.300They could risk losing Victoria. They could risk losing some Vancouver ridings. They could risk
00:04:44.200losing some ridings in Montreal, Toronto, other places where being an environmentalist hack
00:04:51.060is actually quite popular and building the economy is, you know, I don't know, a crime
00:04:56.520against the planet in some way that is the balancing act that mark carney is having to play
00:05:02.520and that's why he's basically done this thing where he's you know mr pipeline wanting to build
00:05:07.320pipelines and saying yes to every pipeline that comes up at the same time he makes an mou agreement
00:05:12.760with danielle smith that basically just says no like it's like thousands and thousands of words
00:05:19.400just saying no because yeah you can build one but you have to get the permission of the bc
00:05:25.080government to build it to the west coast you need first nation consultations you need environmental
00:05:30.900consultations oh also you have to put money into the pathways project that could cost 18 to 30
00:05:36.820billion dollars oh also you have to increase your industrial carbon tax oh also that this other
00:05:43.040things like it just keeps going on and on so like who would even invest in building a pipeline when
00:05:48.540it's just objectively going to be less profitable than every other country on the planet and that's
00:05:53.840not because we just don't have a great oil and gas industry. We do. It's because new oil and gas
00:05:59.580development is so expensive. You're going to be making like 6% profit on your investment every
00:06:04.680year compared to what you could be making in other countries, 10, 12, 18%, because it's just easy.
00:06:11.500The regulations are your way. You're not paying taxes for nonsensical things. But now let's jump
00:06:17.700into the video of Stephen Gilbeau on the CBC talking about how there are other liberal MPs
00:06:25.080in caucus who agree with his radical stance that all this talk of a pipeline is foreboding and we
00:06:32.180shouldn't be doing it. I would argue that there are more certainly more than 14 people who are
00:06:36.560worried about some not everything on the environment I've heard people say oh you know
00:06:41.100it doesn't care about the environment that's not what I'm saying on nature great on climate finance
00:06:45.440great on climate problematic on uh environmental impact assessment and the proposals that have been
00:06:50.800made some good ideas some that i support some that i have supported as an environment minister
00:06:55.680some that i find very worrisome so i think it's a mixed picture and i think when it comes to
00:07:01.360certainly climate change there are a lot of people within within caucus and in our membership i've
00:07:06.000heard from so many liberal volunteers members people at the door who will also it's not the
00:07:11.600the number one issue right now people rightly so are worried about a number of other issues but
00:07:15.540this idea that people don't care about don't care anymore about the environment i think is uh
00:07:20.300is wrong and what you have inside the liberal party i would diagnose is a lot of people who
00:07:27.360and i know some people say that like not everything is this some people genuinely
00:07:31.000hold these beliefs no matter what it's like okay sure but a lot of these are luxury beliefs and a
00:07:36.540lot of the liberal MPs are fairly elite individuals, and they can sit around clattering their teeth
00:07:43.060about, oh my goodness, the planet's on fire, and did you see what Donald Trump did, and blah blah
00:07:48.520blah, and the thing is that they use Canada more as a little puppet to play out their preferred
00:07:54.660anti-Trump politics, their preferred anti-conservative politics, even if it's hurting the
00:07:59.660country, but they just want to be able to sit, you know, they just want to be able to, like,
00:08:03.620be at the signing ceremony saying that we're not going to be building any more climate-destroying
00:08:09.180pipelines over here. That's what they dream about more than actually being at a ribbon-cutting
00:08:14.020or something that's going to create clubs. It's just their politics these days are just genuinely
00:08:19.380disconnected from reality. But now let's get into a couple other clips. These ones from,
00:08:25.420Am I getting another one from CBC? Yes.
00:08:29.140And then we will go into some CTV news clips as well.
00:08:34.560But here is Stephen Gilbeau saying that Carney is lying about hitting net zero by 2030 and 2050 and that we can't achieve it.
00:08:41.380I was in the seat for four years. I've been working on this for 30 years.
00:08:45.080Looking at what we have in front of us, there is no way we can reach our 2030 targets.
00:08:51.060Unless there's a significant shift, there's no way we can reach our 2035 targets.
00:08:56.120And in fact, in the signed agreement with Alberta, it doesn't say we're committed to reaching carbon neutrality.
00:09:02.480It says something like we're committed to striving.
00:09:05.780So even the government now recognizes that we won't even be able to reach our 2050 carbon neutrality targets.
00:09:15.000Wow, who could have guessed that, you know, we didn't want to actually push ourselves into the Stone Age to meet the targets of Stephen Gilbeau, a man whose life experience includes getting arrested for protesting at the CN Tower for, like, climbing up on it illegally.
00:09:32.360I just want to like point out like that the NDP obviously understands there's blood in the water
00:09:37.400here former interim NDP leader Don Davies obviously the new leaders now Avi Lewis says
00:09:43.560liberals are abandoning climate action that's what's happening and yeah the this is actually
00:09:50.600going to play pretty well for the NDP in the ridings that you assume it would play well in
00:09:55.360because outside of you know like outside of Vancouver Toronto Montreal and Victoria this
00:10:01.320is all like you know just absolute ballot box cancer but there's a bunch of by-elections coming
00:10:07.480up in places like beaches east york and north vancouver capilano and you know a couple montreal
00:10:13.560ridings apparently there's another bloc quebecois mp not running for re-election and he'll be
00:10:18.300resigning in the summer that's probably a really easy uh riding for the bloc to hold but he's going
00:10:23.180to go run for the party quebecois in quebec uh but and he'll have a very easy re-election
00:10:29.220considering that Kearney's been now slagging the idea of separatism.
00:10:32.820And that really gets a lot of Quebecers backs up against the wall
00:10:35.340when you say you won't even accept a majority vote to separate.
00:10:38.820But yeah, but now let's jump into the clip that what I'm portraying
00:10:43.260is as good for the harder left parties of what he's saying here.
00:10:46.440Did you think this would be the case under a government led by Mark Kearney?
00:10:51.260And I asked that, you know, with no malice, but, you know,
00:10:55.180many people who signed up to run for him identified him
00:10:58.760as someone who had a particular view on climate change
00:11:01.760and a focus on it, given his previous work.
00:11:04.980They have conveyed to us, even Elizabeth May,
00:11:07.080who had entertained the idea of working with the government
00:11:09.940on many important files, said to me last night,
00:11:13.540she thought it was a very different Mark Kearney.
00:11:32.560If you look at our campaign platform during the last election, that platform, so commitments that we made to Canadians, mentioned climate change 28 times.
00:11:47.500So I think rightfully so, some people, whether they're Liberal caucus members, whether they're Canadians at large, are wondering what is happening.
00:11:58.260And I think that's where I respectfully disagree with the approach that the government is taking.
00:12:04.340I think that the approach that it's taking is that the markets will largely tackle the issue of climate change.
00:12:13.660I think the markets have a very important role to play.
00:12:15.820We need to work with financial institutions, with investors, with corporations.
00:12:20.220And I certainly did that as an environment minister.
00:12:22.040But we need a mix of things to be able to both grow the economy and tackle our pollution levels.
00:12:29.880Yeah. So basically, I guess, apparently, even Carney right now, getting Alberta to increase industrial carbon taxes on its oil and gas industry, that's not enough.
00:12:43.240Because, like, what's he describing there? At the end, he's talking about, well, you know, we need a balance.
00:12:47.160We need to be able to tackle pollution, but also grow the economy and all this.
00:12:50.680It's like our economy literally shrank in the fourth quarter of 2025.
00:12:55.180So if anything, like we are overregulated.
00:12:58.960We can prove it because of how sluggish the economy is.
00:13:04.080Is what Alberta Premier Daniel Smith signed up to do?
00:13:07.480Increase her industrial carbon tax not good enough for you?
00:13:10.160And this is the problem with working with the Liberal Party.
00:13:12.920This is why no one will invest in Canada.
00:13:16.520Because if you put up the money to build a pipeline, and three or four years into the process, it's not complete yet, but then the Liberal Party has a sea change, and they end up electing the more radical environmentalists, you could have the whole thing shut down.
00:13:31.120Even knowing that these people exist in caucus means that you're not going to invest, because it's not a great investment in the first place. And there's a chance the plug could get pulled anyways. But really, again, all this is just confusing.
00:13:46.520So Carney's not trying to build a pipeline. The caucus doesn't think he's going to build a pipeline. But because he mentioned building a pipeline, Gilboa is out. The hard left is now going to increase its vote because of this, because they are not sufficiently, you know, I guess they're not sufficiently committed to climate action enough.
00:14:06.340but also the more right side of the liberal party the business liberals are going to start getting
00:14:12.660a lot of dyspepsia over the fact that the liberal party it just keeps indicating and signaling
00:14:18.320harder every time the environmentalists criticize them about all the regulations they're putting on
00:14:22.880the industry and don't worry that we're years away from a pipeline don't worry it's never really
00:14:27.280going to happen like what was the point of this for mark harney politically speaking this whole
00:14:33.140thing feels just confusing and weird and like he's just sacrificing a bunch of support for like
00:14:38.940nothing in exchange uh do i have another clip here i think i had one more clip of steven gilbeau
00:14:44.080that i wanted to play as well oh there we go
00:14:50.960yeah there's another one about him saying that climate policies or something has been scapegoated
00:14:59.440If I understand some of what the government's argument is, it's basically that, you know, as you put it, government intervention is not the lever that they feel will best lead to the kind of results that you are talking about and that they are talking about.
00:15:13.540And I ask this with great respect. Might they have put their finger on something insofar as you did pursue a lot of government intervention and government regulation, which I understand you believe is justified and necessary, but it did, you know, spark a reaction.
00:15:28.560There are a lot of people in this country, particularly in the western part of the country, who are not upset to hear you're leaving government.
00:15:35.340I say that looking at the text board today on my radio program, right?
00:15:38.560They are not upset because they felt polarized by what you did as minister and the former prime minister did on this file.
00:15:47.480They felt as though it had a detrimental economic impact in particular on their part of the country, and it was isolating for them.
00:15:55.460Might the prime minister have a point that a different approach isn't just about results on the environment, but could help with, for example, the national unity crisis we face right now?
00:16:07.200I mean, polarization around these issues existed before I became environment minister and polarization between some people in Western Canada and their perception of what the federal government is or isn't doing or Eastern Canada isn't or isn't doing for them.
00:16:21.280Is it like a wrong perception for people in Western Canada to believe that he helped make it harder to build a pipeline with Bill C-48 and Bill C-69?
00:16:34.520Like, is that not a perception people can have? Like, dude, come on.
00:16:38.500We've been around for many decades, really. We bought a pipeline in 2018, hoping that it would help to alleviate some of those tensions.
00:16:46.700that did not help at all. We lost all of our seats in Alberta the following election. We lost
00:16:51.160our seats in the prairies following that election. They purchased an overpriced pipeline. They
00:16:58.600bungled the project and it was clearly just trying to placate Western Canadians so they didn't accept
00:17:04.360it. Not help one iota with this issue of those tensions that you're talking about. I think
00:17:12.220you know i think i was a very um convenient scapegoat for for for some people and and i think
00:17:19.100unfortunately the issue of climate change has is now caught in this culture war that we're seeing
00:17:27.140in in the u.s with the maga movement you know make America great again and and we're certainly
00:17:31.380seeing it in in Canada as well and elsewhere around the world it has become this issue oh you
00:17:36.560know we don't even believe that climate change is an issue so why why should we be doing anything
00:17:41.780or you know canada only contributes 1.8 percent to global emissions yes but we're still one of the
00:17:47.94010 top top 10 largest emitters of greenhouse gas in the world do you know why we are it's because
00:17:56.180we do oil and gas development and other countries get to live vicariously through the fact
00:18:01.620that canada does like emits so that you don't have to admit it it's like the thing is that's
00:18:08.180That's why we should focus on global emissions if you even care about emissions.
00:18:12.200Because at the end of the day, it's like a giant bathtub.
00:18:15.060You can't say, well, this part of the bathtub has 1.8% of the water in it.
00:18:19.220So let's scoop that out and put it somewhere else.
00:18:45.200Well, I guess I am happy that he's leaving, even though nothing's really changing, although it kind of is changing, but not really.
00:18:53.340It's more so just a big political mess that's happening right now.
00:18:57.740Like, Mark Carney has lost a rhetorical war, a perception war, on the environmental front, and now the environmentalists and the business liberals are going to be mad at him in the future because they're both not getting what he wants, or what they want.
00:19:15.760Okay, well, that's Canadian politics for you.
00:19:20.120Anyways, with all that being said, thank you guys for watching. Like, share, subscribe.
00:19:24.640I forgot to do this the other day. I was told one day I needed to give a shout out to the Cape Bretoners and Habagonians, I believe was the name.
00:19:34.080And also I needed to thank the people who helped me in Vancouver make my ferry by helping me find my car in an extremely confusing parking lot.
00:19:42.420Thank you for that. We were at a Polly event and it was at a hotel and it had like the most confusing parking lot I've ever been in my life.
00:19:48.640but all was not lost I eventually did make it to my ferry like a minute before they would have cut
00:19:54.500off when you were allowed to line up for it but never you mind that I finished my shout outs I
00:19:59.760feel vindicated now that I've actually remembered that I forgot the names people helped me because
00:20:03.880of course I did I am very forgetful even though I literally asked them twice anyways that was it