The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - January 30, 2025


Hogue Report on Foreign Interference looks like a Liberal cover up!

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Kevin Vlong Sam Cooper Pierre Poilievre Michael Chan Justin Trudeau Kevin Vong Hogue Michael Chong Gary Clement Majid Johari Bill Blair Marie-Josée Hogue Navdeep Bains Ikra Khalid Adam Vaughn Xi Jinping Jensen Wong Mark Noah Han Dong Gang Tan and 2 more
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The final report from Justice Marie-Josée Hoag's report on foreign interference in Canadian politics is out, and it's a mess. It doesn't hold anyone accountable for any of the problems it identifies, but it doesn't do much to hold those responsible for them accountable. And since we don't know much about foreign interference that was covered up, then it must not be much of a problem.

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00:00:00.000 If you guys aren't aware, yesterday the final report on foreign interference was released by Justice Marie-Josée Hoag,
00:00:08.760 and it kind of does what I think a lot of people suspected.
00:00:12.200 It identifies issues, but it never actually holds anyone accountable,
00:00:17.500 and it severely downplays the issue of foreign interference in Canadian politics and our institutions.
00:00:24.420 As people like Sam Cooper and others critical of the reports have pointed out,
00:00:28.760 what this report does is it talks about systemic issues,
00:00:32.640 but it never hones in on specific individuals who are basically allowing foreign interference to go on.
00:00:39.080 And in many ways, it basically shows that people covered it up,
00:00:42.780 but because we don't know too much about foreign interference that was covered up,
00:00:46.960 then it must not be too much of a problem.
00:00:49.460 At one point, it's mentioned that even CSIS themselves allege that Minister Bill Blair,
00:00:55.120 the Minister of Public Safety, just failed to sign a warrant to monitor former MPP Michael Chen,
00:01:01.900 who acts as a power broker for the CCP in Canada,
00:01:06.000 and that, well, that's bad, that's a problem,
00:01:09.740 but I guess we don't know too much about any foreign interference that might have been detected if they actually acted fast,
00:01:15.980 so it's no big deal.
00:01:17.680 The report is just caked and stuff like that.
00:01:20.440 Some vague thing happened, we didn't investigate it, we should probably do better next time.
00:01:27.240 I will be linking this article from the Bureau below if you guys want to go read it.
00:01:33.020 It's How Justice Hoag's Report Failed to Hold People to Account, Former RCMP Investigator.
00:01:38.440 This is Sam Cooper's blog, and this article is Gary Clement commenting on the problems with the report.
00:01:45.060 I encourage you to go read it.
00:01:46.660 I've read several articles on this report.
00:01:49.780 I haven't read the report myself.
00:01:51.900 Forgive me, it's 123 pages,
00:01:54.680 and I trust people whose specialty is foreign interference 0.99
00:01:57.640 and this kind of security investigations to read it for me and break it down.
00:02:02.220 But yeah, it feels like some of the previous liberal investigations that have happened
00:02:08.040 where somebody who is friendly to the liberals writes up a report that shows that there were some problems,
00:02:14.560 but overall it wasn't that bad, and then we all move on.
00:02:18.620 It's not like everything in the report is worthless,
00:02:21.460 but when it can correctly identify that multiple MPs,
00:02:26.020 several of them, the 11 that are still unnamed in the report,
00:02:29.940 are basically working with and associating themselves with foreign in front groups,
00:02:36.260 that's just kind of a lapse of judgment.
00:02:38.860 That's just not good, but it's not, you know, real foreign interference.
00:02:43.920 Sam Cooper and independent MB Kevin Vlong did a press conference about a couple months back
00:02:50.520 where they even exposed some of the names of the 11 MPs and senators
00:02:55.740 who might be involved in foreign interference
00:02:57.540 and showed that some of them directly while they were senators
00:03:01.280 and after they've been senators or while they are MPs
00:03:04.100 have been either directly on the board of or have worked with CCP front groups,
00:03:09.960 United Workers Department front groups
00:03:12.000 who basically act for the foreign interests of the CCP abroad.
00:03:16.380 There is more money put into the United Front's Workers Department
00:03:19.940 than I've heard like other major institutions in China domestically.
00:03:24.740 They spend billions on it every year
00:03:27.620 because at least the CCP see it as a useful thing to invest money into
00:03:32.500 in order to penetrate Canadian and other foreign government institutions.
00:03:38.040 And yet this report is pretty blasé.
00:03:41.020 It talks about how there's attempts to curry favor or there's attempts to influence,
00:03:46.280 but they don't really ever name the front groups.
00:03:48.520 They don't really ever name the targeted MPs.
00:03:52.420 Even if an MP is completely just none the wiser
00:03:56.300 that they are trying to be influenced by a foreign entity or movement or extremist group,
00:04:02.460 that should be something reported, 1.00
00:04:04.160 that this person is gormlessly stupid enough to engage with these people. 1.00
00:04:08.280 There are liberal MPs, not named in the report at all, 1.00
00:04:11.880 like Majid Johari,
00:04:13.120 that when Iranian parliamentarians come to Canada,
00:04:16.740 a country where we don't even have an Iranian embassy because of it being a pro-terror state,
00:04:22.900 they will literally visit Majid Johari at his house.
00:04:26.060 That is a little bit crazy that he would do stuff like that.
00:04:29.220 People who have been stumping against the Foreign Agents Registry Act
00:04:34.080 to make sure that you can't just, you know,
00:04:36.760 be lobbying secretly on behalf of a foreign government.
00:04:40.700 There has been MPs as well as senators stumping against it,
00:04:44.600 like Senator Wu Pa for the Liberals,
00:04:46.820 who just nobody seems to be wanting to look more into.
00:04:50.600 A guy actively stumping against wanting people who are working for the CCP to have to declare that,
00:04:56.860 that they're working on behalf of a CCP front group to declare that information to us.
00:05:01.320 This report, again, just kind of papers over it all.
00:05:04.680 It's the idea that, well, we should check better.
00:05:07.780 Well, we should sign documents faster so that we can monitor suspicious people.
00:05:12.820 Bill Blair, in this report, was said to have waited 57 days to sign the request for CSIS to monitor Michael Chen.
00:05:23.160 57 days later, you've probably blown your entire opportunity to see if the guy is up to something.
00:05:30.140 What?
00:05:30.500 There are so many people who it's just obvious that they're CCP agents or they are working on behalf of foreign governments
00:05:37.600 or influenced by Pakistan or influenced by India or China or some other country.
00:05:44.000 And again, it just acts like, oh, they just went to the wrong luncheon.
00:05:47.740 Oh, they just talked to the wrong people.
00:05:49.120 There is nothing going on there.
00:05:50.620 Even as you will have MPs like Ikra Khalid standing in front of posters that say Kashmir will become Pakistan for a Pakistani government front group.
00:06:03.200 And that's just considered a bad decision.
00:06:05.460 Even though she can speak the language, she understands what that banner said.
00:06:08.720 But she decided to show up anyways. 0.97
00:06:10.280 There are so many Muslim Brotherhood front groups, other extremist Kalistani front groups everywhere, probably some Indian government front groups that operate in Canada.
00:06:19.260 And we just pretend it's just kind of no big deal.
00:06:22.640 This is why Canada is so dysfunctional.
00:06:26.640 It's that the government is constantly in charge of investigating itself.
00:06:30.680 And so many media institutions are willing to just buy it.
00:06:33.740 There are so many liberals on social media today, or just leftists in general, seeing, see, it was a big nothing burger that the conservatives were playing up.
00:06:42.000 How did it go that the Nisekopp report, which was an all parties committee to investigate foreign interference issues and other suspicious activity,
00:06:50.620 that they specifically named 11 MPs?
00:06:53.540 And then Hogue, in her report, looks at that, basically says, yeah, I don't think there's anything here,
00:06:58.740 and then refuses to name who the 11 are or what the evidence is.
00:07:02.100 It's just pretty egregious.
00:07:04.380 There are other really good articles from the Bureau you guys should check out.
00:07:08.320 I think they do a pretty good job looking over this.
00:07:12.540 Like, here's this one.
00:07:13.960 CSIS officer alleges interference in a warrant targeting Trudeau party power broker.
00:07:18.520 This is about Michael Chen.
00:07:21.400 This is an article by Sam Cooper.
00:07:23.500 And this is where he talks about the massive delay in getting the warrant signed to be able to go and monitor him.
00:07:30.700 And that it's not that CSIS said they were late.
00:07:33.980 That's what Hogue tries to say, that they were late.
00:07:36.560 But what CSIS specifically said about this was that it was an intentional delay.
00:07:41.580 It was intentionally a minister knowing that they have to sign it, knowing time is of the essence, and then they do not do it.
00:07:48.780 That is not just a systemic issue.
00:07:51.440 That is an individual issue, as Sam Cooper's guest writer, Gary Clement, had pointed out.
00:07:56.580 That is somebody knowing what the right thing to do is, knowing that someone's probably up to something, and then just doing nothing about it.
00:08:03.640 In fact, actually, this report confirms some of my reporting from back in March of 2023.
00:08:10.600 I should actually pull this up right now.
00:08:12.180 That Michael Chen and Han Dong look like they were involved in the smearing of Kevin Vuong, the now independent MP.
00:08:20.660 Kevin Vuong ran as a liberal.
00:08:22.740 You can't blame him.
00:08:23.560 He's in Spadina, Fort York.
00:08:24.960 That is the most liberal of liberal downtown Toronto ridings.
00:08:28.200 Running as a conservative makes him a sacrificial land candidate.
00:08:31.380 He wants to be in government to do good things.
00:08:33.600 I wouldn't agree to run for the liberals, but he thought it was a good idea.
00:08:36.760 And even before he was elected, basically the CCP starts at targeting him.
00:08:42.060 That was literally from the Hogue report that the CCP and liberal insiders, because obviously liberal insiders would be having to help, targeted Kevin with a smear campaign to get Trudeau to drop him as a candidate.
00:08:54.780 Their plan kicked off too late.
00:08:57.020 So even after Justin Trudeau said, oh, yes, Kevin is a terrible, mean, horrible man, and he's never going to sit in our caucus, he was still on the ballot as a liberal and won anyways.
00:09:05.900 But this is my article.
00:09:07.760 From March 2nd of 2023, I was literally mocked for this article, pointing out the similarities between what happened to Kevin and what happened to this man right here, Gang Ten.
00:09:19.820 Gang Ten is actually the first man who was born in mainland China to become an MP in Canada.
00:09:27.600 In fact, that sounds like it would be sketchy.
00:09:29.740 Oddly enough, really great Canadian patriot, because when he was invited to take a tour of Taiwan to stand up with an ally and stand against the CCP, he actually took it.
00:09:40.520 And then Handong and Michael Chen pressured him out of taking that trip, and then they dropped a fake sexual, like, fake sex scandal on him to bully him out of his nomination in Don Valley West or North, I believe, one of the two.
00:09:55.300 And then Handong took his seat, because Handong had previously lost his own seat as an MPP in Spadina in 2018.
00:10:05.340 And then it so happens that when Adam Vaughn is leaving as the Spadina Fort York MP, he then endorses Kevin as a good last-minute replacement, and Han doesn't like that.
00:10:16.080 One, it's his own old stomping grounds, or this is what I'm assuming, Hans thinking, that's his old stomping grounds, and two, Kevin Vuong is very anti-CCP.
00:10:25.680 It makes sense because one of his parents is, in fact, South Vietnamese.
00:10:29.320 And then, suddenly, a week before the election, a fake sex scandal gets dropped on him, and the liberals try and drop him.
00:10:37.140 And now this Hogue report confirms that that was what was going on.
00:10:41.100 They don't name Kevin. It would be useful if they did.
00:10:44.280 But there was only one liberal MP that the CCP came after because they were perceived as being anti-CCP.
00:10:51.620 This is what the report literally says.
00:10:54.360 And then Kevin's the only one targeted.
00:10:56.800 This is, again, this is not, oh, there might be some issues.
00:11:00.860 Oh, there might be some systemic issues.
00:11:02.540 This is full-on foreign interference that the liberals are complying with. 0.77
00:11:05.840 They mention in the report the liberals knew about people like Michael Chong in 2021 being targeted by CCP front groups,
00:11:14.560 that they were targeting his riding with misinformation for Chinese diaspora voters, and that hurt Michael Chong in the election.
00:11:22.700 That's not, hmm, maybe we should fix that.
00:11:25.620 The report vaguely points to, because it doesn't want to directly say it, even though it should directly say it,
00:11:32.520 the liberals knew about it and did nothing because it was benefiting them.
00:11:34.920 That's not, like, again, the report is basically acting like because we don't have photos of Xi Jinping and Justin Trudeau taking a bubble bath together,
00:11:43.800 that means there was nothing going on.
00:11:45.900 There was clearly something going on.
00:11:47.620 The liberals have all the information at their fingertips, and they decide to do nothing.
00:11:52.640 In fact, if you want to know just how pro-liberal this report is,
00:11:56.840 it also tries to sideswipe Pierre Polyev because he didn't get his security clearance, 0.97
00:12:02.780 even though the security clearance would have given him basically no information because the report's crap,
00:12:09.420 and he would have not been able to talk about the report by getting the security clearance. 0.96
00:12:13.760 It's ridiculous.
00:12:14.940 At this point, maybe Polyev should get the security clearance just to do it. 0.65
00:12:19.480 I guess he didn't want to play the games of the liberals going into this.
00:12:22.200 At this point, he should probably do it.
00:12:24.060 But, like, it obviously is just the liberals trying to pretend,
00:12:28.060 trying to then jab Polyev in this report to get the liberal media talking about that,
00:12:32.940 when the main story here is not that, oh, it's a nothing burger,
00:12:36.220 and Polyev's sketchy because he won't get the security clearance.
00:12:38.900 It's that it's a cover-up,
00:12:40.260 and so it actually confirms Polyev not wanting to get the security clearance because there was nothing in it. 1.00
00:12:47.780 Again, the public deserves to know which 11 MPs are at least so gormlessly stupid 0.99
00:12:53.280 that they are very easily brought into foreign schemes, 0.99
00:12:57.720 that foreign actors approaching them does not set off alarm bells.
00:13:00.960 I don't want those people in government.
00:13:03.080 Mary knew, working with and just being really close and having advisors go-betweens between her office,
00:13:10.260 her ministry, which is in the cabinet,
00:13:13.740 that she has a go-between between her and a United Front Workers Department front group,
00:13:19.300 a CCP front group.
00:13:21.160 What?
00:13:21.940 That's, again, that's not, well, that's kind of interesting. 0.99
00:13:26.100 That's like, it doesn't matter if she's ignorant. 0.99
00:13:28.220 She shouldn't be in parliament. 0.99
00:13:29.840 Voters should know about that so they can not vote for her 1.00
00:13:32.580 because she is so stupid that she would let that happen. 1.00
00:13:35.520 She would let that relationship take place. 1.00
00:13:38.080 It's actually nuts just how much stuff is just out there that everyone kind of knows about
00:13:45.020 and nobody actually cares to talk about it.
00:13:47.620 Like, remember Navdeep Bains, the liberal MP who suddenly resigned out of nowhere?
00:13:52.500 How was it that that man had massive gambling debts
00:13:55.380 and then overnight all the gambling debts disappeared right before he left office?
00:13:59.060 That's really strange.
00:14:00.440 Not foreign interference.
00:14:01.380 Not him having any direct ties to a foreign movement.
00:14:05.480 No, that's just normal stuff.
00:14:08.800 Anyways, that's it for me today, guys.
00:14:11.740 No doubt in the future I'll be talking more about this.
00:14:14.720 By the way, this foreign interference report does help kind of elucidate some stuff about my lawsuit,
00:14:20.560 the person suing me.
00:14:21.700 So if you want to contribute to the legal fund, you can always contribute in the description below.
00:14:26.560 I just had to pay another bill.
00:14:27.840 It was a small one, so not too bad.
00:14:29.740 If you want to donate to the gifts and go, really helps me out.
00:14:32.460 I've paid like $35,000 in the past few years defending myself.
00:14:37.280 One of the people connected, the people suing me was one of the people Sam Cooper and Kevin Wong noted
00:14:44.140 was actually being invited to CCP events in China and being given gifts.
00:14:49.880 It's nuts, the kind of stuff that's going on.
00:14:52.240 But make sure to like this video, subscribe to the channel, do all that great stuff,
00:14:56.180 and I'll catch up with you guys another time.
00:14:58.500 I've been wearing a lot of sweaters today.
00:14:59.980 I'm going to try and break that trend.
00:15:01.780 I feel very dad-ish right now.
00:15:03.500 I'm going to try and break that trend.