The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - April 15, 2024


Jagmeet Singh's carbon tax flip-flopping proves why he will never be PMEdited

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Jagmeet Singh is not a good Prime Minister. He's not even good enough to be Prime Minister because he's not very Prime Ministerial, and that's a good thing because he needs to be, because Justin Trudeau needs to go.

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00:00:00.000 I assume you all remember this really funny clip from the House of Commons when Jagmeet Singh stood up and in making a statement, he said, when I'm Prime Minister, and everyone burst out laughing. If you haven't seen it, here it is as a reminder.
00:00:14.240 Remember if we're going to be south.
00:00:16.520 When I'm Prime Minister, I will keep my promises.
00:00:21.400 Now, another promise. Let me try again.
00:00:24.540 Yeah, it's because Jagmeet Singh is not very Prime Ministerial.
00:00:30.900 It's not even just that he's the NDP party leader and the NDP is very unlikely to ever actually gain power in Canada.
00:00:37.220 It's that Jagmeet Singh is Jagmeet Singh. He is utterly incompetent at politics. 0.89
00:00:43.140 Right now, he should be raking in support because Justin Trudeau is deeply disliked and the media and everyone is always attacking the Conservatives for fake things.
00:00:52.820 And so the NDP should be the natural dumping point for old Liberal Party voters.
00:00:57.700 And they're not going to him because he fundamentally doesn't understand anyone who isn't a carbon copy of himself.
00:01:04.080 He is an urban hyper-progressive and he does not understand working class people, which is really funny because historically that was the NDP's base. 0.86
00:01:12.960 He's traded working class Canadians for effectively 18-year-old white girls who are taking sociology in college and thinking that somehow he's going to be able to win the next election.
00:01:24.380 Well, maybe he's girded himself up a little bit in college towns, but that's kind of it.
00:01:29.800 He's losing a lot of these working class ridings. 0.96
00:01:32.600 That's why we saw a spate of NDP MPs saying that they're not going to be running next election in areas that they had held for multiple terms.
00:01:41.140 These were safe seats and now they're no longer safe because Jagmeet Singh cannot make his stance clear on issues that affect the working class.
00:01:49.780 And a great stance to take in trying to gird up his working class base would be to come out decisively against the carbon tax.
00:01:57.440 The carbon tax, even just for consumers, getting rid of it just on consumer purchases.
00:02:02.200 But he won't do it because Jagmeet Singh is utterly incompetent.
00:02:06.440 Wab Kanu, the NDP Premier in Manitoba, understands this.
00:02:10.880 So even though he's a hyper-progressive a lot like Jagmeet Singh, he knew that he had to come out on board the Axe the Tax movement to be able to actually gird up his popularity, make sure he could win the next election in three years.
00:02:23.960 David Eby doesn't understand this.
00:02:25.620 That's why David Eby is currently falling from the sky down to the floor as the Premier of British Columbia.
00:02:31.660 He used to have an 18-point lead in the polls and now in some polls he only has a four-point lead because he keeps destroying his own working class appeal. 0.87
00:02:40.180 And here's Jagmeet Singh for two minutes straight being unable to actually state his position on the carbon tax, even if he said he was still in favor of it and he didn't want the consumer carbon tax to go away, he would actually be more popular.
00:02:54.340 It's the waffling that is what annoys voters so much.
00:02:58.100 This is why Andrew Scheer did so bad in 2019.
00:03:00.960 Waffling makes people nervous about how stable you are as a leader.
00:03:05.240 And Jagmeet Singh right here is definitely not stable.
00:03:08.340 Yes or no, do you support a consumer carbon levy?
00:03:11.580 Yes or no?
00:03:12.260 Our position has not changed at all.
00:03:14.280 But our position has not changed.
00:03:16.240 What is your position?
00:03:17.000 Our position, I mean, you've seen our votes.
00:03:19.040 Our position has not changed.
00:03:20.460 What is your position?
00:03:21.380 We absolutely support a price on pollution.
00:03:23.540 We've always supported it.
00:03:24.480 For consumers.
00:03:25.420 We've always supported a price on pollution.
00:03:26.440 I'm just looking to clarify, sir.
00:03:27.960 Do you support a consumer carbon price?
00:03:30.000 I've said it again and again.
00:03:31.300 And you've seen our votes on this.
00:03:32.700 We absolutely support a price on pollution.
00:03:35.100 We have not changed our position on that.
00:03:36.860 We have not changed our position on that.
00:03:38.520 But you won't actually confirm what it is.
00:03:40.300 We have not changed our position.
00:03:41.720 I mean, you could look at our voting record.
00:03:43.180 We've been very clear.
00:03:44.680 We support a price on pollution.
00:03:46.560 I'll pause it here for a second.
00:03:48.900 But yes, technically, Jagmeet Singh still does support a price on pollution, quote unquote, the carbon tax.
00:03:55.380 And he did vote when Pierre Pauly and the conservatives were calling that non-confidence vote in favor of keeping the carbon tax.
00:04:01.720 But ever since then, the person who got hit the hardest in the aftermath of that non-confidence vote was the NDP.
00:04:08.340 Because the liberal base knew that Justin Trudeau was in favor of the carbon tax.
00:04:12.680 They're generally comfortable with it.
00:04:14.140 They tend to be upper middle class, retired voters who are not having to work in the oil and gas industry or manufacturing or other industries being hollowed out by the carbon tax.
00:04:24.040 So that's why they're able to hold on to a little bit more of their, you know, downtown Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver bases.
00:04:29.400 But the NDP, because they rely on people who actually are younger, working class individuals, that him refusing to break with Justin Trudeau on that vote has utterly destroyed their polling numbers.
00:04:41.460 They went from being polling around 22, 23, 21 percent before that vote to now being around like 16 or 17 percent.
00:04:48.800 And that was a real drop.
00:04:49.940 That was a drop observed over multiple different pollsters sampling and methodologies.
00:04:54.780 This is not just one pollster said that they dropped.
00:04:57.800 No, all the pollsters are showing that they dropped.
00:05:00.240 And so now Jagmeet Singh is trying to do the splits over a giant chasm and hold on to the progressives who like the greenie policies.
00:05:08.340 And also trying to not alienate private sector union workers who work in Oshawa, Hamilton and have jobs that the carbon tax is deeply affecting.
00:05:18.420 And he is doing a terrible job of it because the thing is that the progressives are not going to go back to the liberals.
00:05:24.000 The young progressives don't like the liberal party.
00:05:25.820 So if he just says, I'm against the carbon tax because it's hurting working class people, the NDP's younger, hyper-progressive greenie base will somehow justify it.
00:05:34.820 As long as he is OK with carbon tax on corporations, which is still a stupid idea because it still hurts everybody else, they would stick around.
00:05:42.640 And if he would just get rid of the consumer carbon tax, his working class base could do the mental gymnastics in their head to think that this is still a party for them, 0.62
00:05:51.140 even though it's not even just that Jagmeet Singh doesn't care about working class people, he fundamentally hates them.
00:05:56.380 If you have calluses on your hands, Jagmeet Singh thinks that's icky.
00:06:00.340 He doesn't want to talk to you if you ever have dirty hands from doing real hard work.
00:06:04.700 He's a man who owns more Rolexes than some people have been alive on this planet.
00:06:11.400 Jagmeet Singh is deeply out of touch with the way voters actually think about issues.
00:06:16.220 Like his wife puts up TikTok videos where she's showing the $20,000 worth of jewelry that she owns.
00:06:22.320 And I'm not trying to go after someone's spouse, but she posts it publicly.
00:06:25.460 And it definitely shows the social environment that Jagmeet Singh is in is not the typical NDP working class trying to get better contracts for workers kind of things.
00:06:35.700 And in order to try and make it seem like he's still on the side of working class people,
00:06:39.720 then he gets into fights with Loblaws and Galen Weston, which is funny because every single measure that Jagmeet Singh would pass would end up only empowering Loblaws
00:06:48.480 and losing a lot of other people who work for smaller grocers their jobs because actually large grocery stores,
00:06:54.220 large corporations like heavy regulations, higher minimum wages because their competition can't pay for it. 0.86
00:06:59.460 And even if it damages their profits or the revenue a little bit, the thing is that they actually will have less competition in the long run.
00:07:07.420 So even though their profits will be hurt in the short term, in the long run, they'll be much better off.
00:07:12.900 The same thing with telecommunication companies.
00:07:15.380 Telecommunication companies in Canada love heavy regulations because the few that are in the game,
00:07:20.080 it ends up benefiting them and making it so that no other smaller company could break in.
00:07:24.720 And as I just want to watch a little bit more of Jagmeet Singh floundering here, just because I find it funny.
00:07:30.260 Concern. Our concern. We have absolutely been very clear. Our position has not changed.
00:07:37.000 And so you can look at our voting record and our position is very clear.
00:07:40.160 But my concern is this, and I want to be very clear on this concern.
00:07:43.600 I want to spend the time that I have talking about my concern.
00:07:46.740 The liberals say to working class people, we don't have money for you to buy heat pumps.
00:07:52.740 We don't have money to support heat pumps are utterly useless in like 90% of Canada.
00:07:57.780 It may be in B.C., may be in the Maritimes, some Maritimes, not in the rest of Canada.
00:08:03.020 It's such an excuse of a position to take.
00:08:06.180 But we've got billions of dollars for oil and gas companies.
00:08:09.740 Workers tell me that is unfair. And that's what we pointed out.
00:08:12.880 So we said that very clearly.
00:08:15.120 And we've said again and again, we need to make sure we fight the climate crisis with everything we have.
00:08:20.520 But the liberals are eroding that trust by not supporting working class people.
00:08:26.560 They are eroding.
00:08:27.340 I like how his justification here doesn't even make sense.
00:08:30.440 Well, people are losing faith in the liberals love for the working class or something like that because they're giving billions to oil and gas companies,
00:08:38.520 which is untrue because obviously the liberals take billions and billions of dollars from oil and gas companies over and above the normal corporate taxes and income taxes and payroll taxes and whatnot.
00:08:49.500 They're just giving oil and gas companies back in subsidies money that they had taxed away from them through different regulatory schemes and different surcharges and stuff that ends up costing oil and gas companies massive amounts of money.
00:09:04.460 So it's really just the subsidies really giving oil and gas companies their money back.
00:09:08.200 But what does this have to do with his position on the carbon tax?
00:09:11.120 Utterly nothing. Utterly nothing.
00:09:13.000 Jagmeet Singh is just filling the time with words until he can stop talking and people will leave him alone.
00:09:19.460 That trust by not saying clearly that.
00:09:23.500 Jagmeet Singh going after anyone for not saying things clearly right now is a comedy in and of itself.
00:09:29.620 Who side are we on? The liberals right now are making it seem like they're on the side of big polluters and they're not on the side of working class people.
00:09:37.380 How can this government justify billions of dollars in subsidies for oil and gas companies and say no to working class people? 0.99
00:09:45.380 That is wrong. And I want to focus on that.
00:09:47.600 Our position on fighting the climate crisis has not changed.
00:09:50.320 We believe absolutely on a price on pollution.
00:09:52.760 But we also believe the plan has to be fair.
00:09:54.820 And right now the liberals are not making a fair plan.
00:09:56.780 He said you want to throw everything he had at the climate crisis.
00:10:00.040 But now it's not fair.
00:10:01.000 Now we might want to get rid of the carbon tax.
00:10:02.720 I won't say it because I'm scared.
00:10:05.080 And I also won't say I won't get rid of the carbon tax because I'm also scared.
00:10:08.940 Like the man does not know what his base believes in.
00:10:11.800 And that's why he's in this strange position where he's trying to both appeal to private sector union workers and like baristas.
00:10:19.420 You're saying big polluters get bigger and bigger profits.
00:10:22.760 Working class people get nothing. 1.00
00:10:24.120 That is wrong.
00:10:24.760 How would you make the carbon pricing scheme more fair?
00:10:30.480 Well, in terms of what I want to see happen in terms of a plan in general, these are the three values that way.
00:10:36.440 Well, this is what you do.
00:10:37.900 This is our plan.
00:10:38.640 If you want to ask my plan, these are my concerns.
00:10:40.580 One is I'm concerned specifically with the fact that the government has billions of dollars for oil and gas companies.
00:10:47.080 Still. Oh, my goodness.
00:10:48.380 I'm just going to stop torturing guys with this because he's not saying anything.
00:10:50.880 Even that last 30 seconds might make somebody take their own life.
00:10:54.160 But, yeah, this man's never going to be prime minister.
00:10:56.480 It's not just because he's occupying like the NDP, like as the leader and that the NDP usually doesn't have a chance.
00:11:03.980 Like Jack Layton might have been able to become the prime minister of Canada if he didn't.
00:11:08.180 He hadn't passed away because he was actually charismatic, even though I disagree with everything he believes in.
00:11:12.620 He was charismatic.
00:11:14.140 Even Elizabeth May probably has a better chance of like increasing the Green Party's popularity and becoming the prime minister. 1.00
00:11:21.060 The thing with the thing with Jagmeet Singh is that he is so obsessed with appearances and aesthetics and seeming like on the cutting edge of progressive politics
00:11:30.400 that he utterly bungles every single major issue in Canada because it turns out university town politics are not the politics of the rest of the country.
00:11:39.800 He is basically playing to about 10 ridings, and that is why all of his MPs are quitting on him because you're not going to be getting any support from the NDP HQ.
00:11:49.320 The NDP HQ is too busy trying to win ridings in Montreal that don't like them, and it is ignoring places in Edmonton, in Hamilton, in Oshawa, London, Ontario,
00:12:00.300 just all the kind of prairie provinces, all of them.
00:12:03.140 He doesn't care about them.
00:12:04.240 He finds them grub.
00:12:05.140 He doesn't want the votes of plumbers.
00:12:08.300 He doesn't want the votes of people who are construction. 0.99
00:12:11.460 Ew, icky, dirty.
00:12:13.320 He wants people who have anthropology degrees, and that's because he is an aesthetic politician who wants – he's like very concerned with what the people supporting him look like behind him in a photo, 0.81
00:12:24.180 and he wants them all to be very fashionable, progressive people.
00:12:27.620 Anyways, that should be it for me today, guys.
00:12:29.820 If you live in the Calgary-Signal Hill area, like I always say, I, Wyatt Claypool, I'm running for the Calgary-Signal Hill Conservative Party nomination.
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00:12:42.860 Buy a CPC membership, a federal Conservative Party membership, and visit my website in the description below, WyattClaypool.com.
00:12:49.760 And then also I just want to plug the fact that I and the National Telegraph are running a legal fund just to get some money to be able to pay off legal bills.
00:12:58.500 We have more than $29,000 now that we've had to pay defending ourselves from a developer billionaire suing us for defamation.
00:13:06.360 Defamation, he's not proven.
00:13:07.760 He's not provided any evidence for it in over two years of this case.
00:13:10.820 And he is now just dragging it out as long as humanly possible, which is adding up costs on us, which is his entire tactic of just trying to exact pain through the process of a court case.
00:13:23.360 Anyways, that's it for me today.
00:13:25.720 Have a good one.