The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - June 12, 2024


Justin Trudeau is going full socialist to attack Poilievre

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Wyatt Claypool
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Pierre Poilievre Justin Trudeau Erin O'Toole Carolyn Parrish Andrew Scheer Steve Dasko Rob Ford Damerla Tejo
Trudeau admits ＂dirty secret＂ about his divisive political career Liberal MP embarrasses himself in video trying to attack Poilievre

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In this episode of the podcast, I talk about how the Liberals are trying to turn the public against their own party with their new socialist policies, and why they might not be as good at it as they seem to think they are.

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00:00:00.000 As strange as it is to say, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau doesn't seem like he expected Pierre Polyev and the Conservatives' momentum to be able to keep up this long.
00:00:10.120 I think he assumed that after the Conservatives had gotten a new leader, like with Andrew Scheer and like with Erin O'Toole, the party would rise past the Liberals for a short period of time, and then things would kind of go back to normal.
00:00:23.040 The problem is that conventional wisdom doesn't really work anymore after all of the Liberal policies have utterly failed, inflation is still terrible, crime is bad, you know, pretty much everything's bad.
00:00:34.480 You can't just go back to a 2015-style playbook for the Liberals winning the next election.
00:00:40.360 And because of that, it seems like the Liberals, trying to catch some momentum of their own, are trying to stir up controversy and now actually push borderline full-on socialist rhetoric in order to polarize Canadians back towards themselves. 0.96
00:00:55.180 In a certain sense, this isn't even that stupid of an idea. 0.88
00:00:59.600 When you see some of the new polls coming out from like Nanos Research here, just take a look at that. 0.97
00:01:04.480 41% Conservatives, 29% Liberals.
00:01:07.820 And yes, while that's still a good result for the Conservatives, especially if that was an election result, that's only a 12-point lead for the Conservatives.
00:01:16.520 Whereas in the past, the Liberals have been behind the Conservatives by anywhere from 16 to 21 points.
00:01:22.760 So a 12-point, you know, trailing result is not actually that bad for the Liberals.
00:01:28.400 And I think part of that, one, Nanos tends to be a little bit more Liberal-leaning in terms of who it polls.
00:01:35.040 But also, I think they genuinely have come back a little bit because of rhetoric like this.
00:01:40.680 They've been pushing a lot of stuff where they're trying to make pure poly of the representative of the ultra-rich.
00:01:46.200 And Justin Trudeau is representing the common middle-class individual, which is hilarious because Justin Trudeau is far richer than pure poly of.
00:01:54.860 And his government has been mostly catering towards, you know, rich, Bay Street-type Liberal insiders.
00:02:01.480 Lobbyists, other people who end up getting subsidies from the Liberal government, which are not accessible at all for the normal middle-class person.
00:02:08.320 And the Conservatives want to cut taxes, regulations, and other things across the board, which will very likely make it, like, far more prosperous in the country.
00:02:17.280 Not just for, you know, those in the lower and middle-class sections of society, but for everybody, even the rich.
00:02:25.320 But now the Liberals are putting stuff out like this, trying to make you, like, I don't know, fear Polyev?
00:02:32.920 Fear Polyev's Conservatives just confirmed they would cut taxes on the ultra-wealthy.
00:02:37.860 And then it's showing all the Conservatives in the caucus who voted for it.
00:02:44.820 I don't really think that this is going to work as well as the Liberals think it will, in the sense that I don't think that many people are into this class warfare rhetoric.
00:02:56.040 But I think that the polling shift shows there's enough people willing to kind of be, you know, told, you know, sweet little lies in their ears about how Polyev is the man who's fighting for, you know, oil barons and the ultra-rich.
00:03:10.220 That's the funny thing about politics.
00:03:11.840 And this is where I've kind of always dedicated this show to sort of teaching people how politics actually works.
00:03:18.580 Controversy is great in politics.
00:03:21.020 Oftentimes, whenever I hear parties getting very nervous about controversy, I always think that they are on the road to losing.
00:03:28.020 Or at least losing, maybe not in this next election, but losing in the one after that.
00:03:33.240 When you avoid controversy, you are avoiding people noticing you.
00:03:37.320 And I think the Liberals just realized that over the past couple of years, pure Polyev has been the only one willing to be noticed. 0.90
00:03:45.100 And Justin Trudeau assumed that if he just acted professional, if he just faded off to the background, that people would get some, like, brand new respect for him that looked how statesman-like he is.
00:03:55.840 You should act more statesman-like in politics, you know, be professional, be someone of integrity, have, you know, a good amount of, like, professionalism to the way that you act.
00:04:06.020 But at the end of the day, you also want to be somewhat controversial.
00:04:09.380 Because controversial ideas are ideas that people vote on.
00:04:13.200 People don't show up to the polls to vote for, you know, bland granola and, what is it, oatmeal.
00:04:19.520 People aren't really looking for bland options on the ballot.
00:04:23.000 Oh, this guy says he'll lower taxes by 0.5%.
00:04:26.200 Or this guy says he'll create a new housing, you know, investment program.
00:04:31.360 People don't show up and vote for that.
00:04:33.140 That's what Aaron O'Toole and Andrew Scheer proved.
00:04:35.420 I think Andrew Scheer would have been done far better if he had better advisors, because I think he was getting pressured into the red Tory mold, even though he's far more of a blue conservative.
00:04:43.560 But Aaron O'Toole modeled it perfectly.
00:04:45.780 When you stand for very little, people aren't going to tend to come out and vote for you.
00:04:50.480 People like to vote for things that are, in a certain sense, hot-blooded.
00:04:54.240 They want to vote for something like, you know, making sure that we crack down on crime, that we lower taxes, lower regulations, that we seemingly have a revolution in politics and do things differently.
00:05:04.900 And that's what Polyev was offering, and that's why he easily won the 22 leadership race.
00:05:09.300 And since he won the leadership race, he's been almost ahead in the polls the entire time over Justin Trudeau's liberals, because it feels like they're voting for something different.
00:05:17.680 And now the liberals are even trying to market themselves as being something different.
00:05:21.900 Now they're trying to be working-class, you know, heroes and defenders.
00:05:25.860 And so they put out this graphic, too.
00:05:27.580 Breaking pure polyvistic conservatives just voted against our plan to make the ultra-wealthy pay a bit more so we can deliver pharma care, dental care, nearly 4 million homes and more.
00:05:37.320 The 4 million homes thing is hilarious because they can't even do that.
00:05:40.140 But anyways, but the 4 million homes thing is still controversial in the sense that it almost is like the audacity of hope that if you vote for the liberals, then you believe we can build 4 million homes even though we should be cutting immigration, because that's the real problem here.
00:05:54.740 And 4 million homes is quite literally impossible to do.
00:05:58.380 You'd have to be building a home every three minutes, or I think it's like two minutes in Canada.
00:06:02.320 It's absolutely nuts.
00:06:03.940 It's pants-on-head crazy.
00:06:05.160 But that is something that polarizes people towards you.
00:06:08.760 And a good example of this, of where it's worked recently, outside of the party politics realm, because you could say, well, in politics, if people don't like the liberals, they go to the conservatives.
00:06:19.860 If people don't like the conservatives, they go to the liberals.
00:06:21.420 So it's not that surprising that the conservatives are ahead and that if anyone stops voting conservative or says they want to vote for something else, they're more likely to go back to the liberals.
00:06:30.180 But I think a great example was Carolyn Parrish winning the Mississauga mayoral by-election.
00:06:36.700 She won with a pretty tidy margin.
00:06:38.700 She won 30.6% of the vote.
00:06:41.040 Tejo came in with 25.2.
00:06:43.480 Damerla, I can't say these people's names, sorry, 19.5.
00:06:47.180 And Steve Dasko, 16.1.
00:06:50.340 Carolyn Parrish, she's actually a former liberal and independent MP.
00:06:54.420 Very controversial woman.
00:06:55.760 She's 77 years old, although I'd give her a compliment saying that I didn't realize that she was a day over 60.
00:07:02.080 That lady just has a lot of energy. 1.00
00:07:03.960 But she's controversial. 1.00
00:07:05.100 People went after her because she made statements against gender theory. 0.99
00:07:08.340 Her plan was to pass new bylaws, which is actually a great plan, pass new bylaws to hold thieves in prison, that they're not going to go through the federal system and just basically hope that federal judges and federal laws will hold people in prison.
00:07:21.800 No, they'll pass new bylaws to hold repeat offenders in prison.
00:07:26.340 That's a great idea.
00:07:27.720 Her saying that they're going to oppose blanket rezoning and they're only going to have rezoning in select small areas near transit and near downtown.
00:07:36.080 Very smart idea.
00:07:37.440 Like, the thing is that I wouldn't agree with everything that Carolyn Parrish believes in, obviously, even though she is more of a 90s liberal who generally believes in, you know, keeping spending under control.
00:07:47.440 But she proved, and this is exactly what Rob Ford proved when he won the mayorship of Toronto in 2010, you have to be controversial.
00:07:58.620 You have to say something that makes people sort of sit up and say, well, what is this person talking about?
00:08:02.560 The problem is, and this is what I hope the Conservative Party doesn't do, is when you're ahead or if you're behind, in the case of BC United and British Columbia, if you're ahead or behind, there's no point of your sort of political journey where you just settle back and say nothing and hope that you win.
00:08:21.440 You always need to be pushing some new ideas or at least fighting for old ideas in new ways.
00:08:28.080 And controversy doesn't mean being rude, doesn't mean being strident, being a jerk, sort of acting like I'm always right and everyone's always wrong.
00:08:38.080 Oftentimes, it's just taking a stance and saying, you know what, we need a two-thirds reduction in immigration. 0.80
00:08:43.540 You would be shocked.
00:08:44.720 That's what I was going around Calgary Signal Hill campaigning for, for the Conservative Party nomination before I was disqualified for, no reason effectively.
00:08:52.220 But that was what I would tell people at the doors of, like, alongside things like passing a federal parental bill of rights.
00:09:00.100 And I would have people say at the door before I had said any policies, they said, I'm a centrist person.
00:09:04.960 I'm not on the left.
00:09:06.020 I'm not on the right.
00:09:07.040 I don't like heavy partisanship.
00:09:08.980 And when I mentioned my policies, they're like, you know what?
00:09:11.900 Actually, that sounds like a really good idea.
00:09:13.700 I've been waiting for somebody to say something like that.
00:09:15.720 You taking controversial stances makes people run to you faster, whereas if you just take a mild in the middle stances, people will maybe side with you, but they're not going to run out the door to do it.
00:09:28.180 That was Aaron O'Toole's problem.
00:09:29.760 And I don't think the Conservatives have pumped the brakes yet, but what they need to be able to keep in their minds is that if they pump the brakes, that is the death of their brand.
00:09:38.100 And they are going to have very average performance if they just start saying average in the middle things for a Conservative.
00:09:44.240 Anyways, that should be it for me today, guys.
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