The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - Liberal CBC Host gets CALLED OUT by Conservative Live!

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here, and welcome back to the National Telegraph YouTube channel.

00:00:05.940 On this YouTube channel, I am effectively Batman, except instead of coming out of the shadows to

00:00:11.940 fight crime, I come out of the shadows to point and laugh at CBC News hosts. Today,

00:00:17.860 we are going to do just that, because Rosemary Barton attempted to interview the Conservative

00:00:23.520 Party House Leader Andrew Scheer, and engaged in some of the most embarrassing liberal flak

00:00:28.880 catching that I have seen since last time we talked about the CBC, which was probably just

00:00:34.320 a couple days ago. Check this out. Just still refuse to actually do. Just to go back to some

00:00:41.940 of the legislation they pushed through, a lot of it, obviously, and I put this to Stephen McKinnon,

00:00:46.680 was by shutting down debate through closure, time allocation, and other procedures.

00:00:51.400 Obviously, that has a certain effect on you and your ability as an opposition to hold the

00:00:57.500 government to account. Have you now started to think about ways that you can work around some

00:01:02.140 of these procedures, or is this just what life is going to be like now with a majority government?

00:01:06.620 This is just the setup to what ends up happening. That was actually, to give Rosemary Barton some 1.00

00:01:11.340 credit, a completely fine question. We're actually two minutes and 14 seconds into this CBC News

00:01:17.140 segment, and the first couple of questions that Rosemary asked were just about issues around

00:01:22.480 legislation passing and the Liberals using their majority in fairly dishonest ways to kind of muscle

00:01:28.100 out the ability for the Conservatives and the Bloc Québécois to say much on committees or to debate

00:01:33.800 legislation in the House. But now that Andrew Scheer is going to bring up the recession,

00:01:39.600 everything's going to fall off the rails. Well, it's clear that Mark Carney is intent on

00:01:45.020 ramming through his agenda, using those types of tools to cut off debate. He doesn't like debate.

00:01:51.600 He doesn't like to be held to account.

00:01:53.060 He's missed over 100 question periods this year.

00:01:56.280 And it's not just about the fact that he's not showing up.

00:01:58.800 It's why he's not showing up, and it's because of his record.

00:02:01.320 He's delivered the only G20 economy in a recession.

00:02:05.620 Inflation is still pushing prices up.

00:02:08.140 Every single quarter that he has been Prime Minister of Canada for

00:02:11.320 has seen business investment decline.

00:02:14.160 So it's no surprise that they'd like to implement their agenda

00:02:17.740 without proper scrutiny because when Canadians look at the actual results,

00:02:21.360 the actual facts things are getting worse in canada under mark carney not better now rosemary's

00:02:26.360 getting a little agitated because andrew sheer dared to make a criticism of the liberal party 0.74

00:02:31.800 that was not just surface level now this the neutral cbc host rosemary barton is going to

00:02:38.320 get up from her chair and correct andrew for saying anything actually substantively wrong

00:02:43.240 with the liberal party i'll just push back on the recession i i know that that's the position the

00:02:48.880 conservatives have taken but if you talk to the chief economist of the royal bank of canada for

00:02:53.040 instance she says what we have seen is not a recession that you know we've seen a lack of

00:02:57.440 growth but at this at this stage it's too early to say that we are in a recession yes the chief

00:03:02.140 economist of the cbc and look at that smug face on rosemary barton there the chief economist of 0.83

00:03:08.340 the cbc is a clown she does not know what she's talking about like in a technical sense like a 0.99

00:03:14.400 technical recession. Does she know what she's talking about? Sure. But she went on to the CBC 0.98

00:03:19.180 to basically push liberal propaganda. Even in her appearance, we talked about it because it was a

00:03:25.620 really bad segment on the CBC. She came on to say, well, yes, we've had two quarters of, actually,

00:03:32.620 she wouldn't even admit to two quarters of decline. She says, well, we've had a lot of

00:03:36.120 stagnation, but around the corner, it's looking better. And it's like, it's looking better around

00:03:42.140 the corner. These last two quarters were projected to be growth quarters, and we've had declines in

00:03:47.940 both quarters. What are you possibly talking about? And so it was just someone coming on,

00:03:53.240 giving you a generic opinion about how, well, I'm feeling optimistic about the future. I'm feeling

00:03:59.700 energized with all the opportunity around the corner. It's like, okay, but are we in a recession?

00:04:05.800 Even call it a technical recession if you want. Are we technically in a recession right now?

00:04:11.140 And she would not actually get into that specific issue. They would just kind of deflect off and say, well, you know, the Bank of Canada doesn't say that we're in a recession. It's the Bank of Canada. It's a government institution. What are they going to like frag their own government and say, absolutely, we're in a recession. This is terrible. Five alarm fire. Everyone sell your assets. Obviously, it's not that bad.

00:04:30.940 But they're never going to say anything to make people lose confidence in the economy because they don't want to be blamed by the Carney government or, you know, making investors pull back or anything like that.

00:04:41.680 So, of course, they're going to generally keep a sunny disposition.

00:04:44.680 But now we'll get back to Andrew Scheer batting that one down.

00:04:48.800 Well, we go by the definition of the recession, which is two quarters of negative growth.

00:04:53.820 That's what Canada has.

00:04:54.840 So, you know, I don't want to get into the semantics.

00:04:57.340 I want to talk about the hardship that Canadians are facing.

00:05:00.400 canadian families are falling further and further into debt uh mark carney presided over the one of

00:05:06.400 the biggest single job loss months uh in uh in years and uh all this well then they then they

00:05:13.120 recovered the jobs though then well they still still again what rosemary stop talking like i 0.97

00:05:19.520 always hate when she like jumps in like this she does this constantly in all of her interviews 0.98

00:05:23.760 where somebody is making a point and then she like tries to like step all over them and just like

00:05:28.320 dumps all over their point without actually you know it's not a real fact check she's like well

00:05:33.520 they recovered some we'll get into that in just a second but i want to replay that so i want to

00:05:38.480 talk about the hardship that canadians are facing canadian families are falling further and further

00:05:43.840 into debt uh mark carney presided over the one of the biggest single job loss months uh in uh in

00:05:50.320 years and uh all this well then they then they recovered the jobs though then they recovered 0.99

00:05:56.560 the jobs they recover the jobs hey sheer you're an idiot they recovered the jobs no they didn't 0.98

00:06:02.080 we're still 40 000 jobs down since the start of the year and guess what we recovered the jobs 0.99

00:06:07.840 because it's a summer jobs boom that happens every single year you uh landscapers go and get work

00:06:15.920 during the summer doing landscaping work it turns out people are in construction for road repair

00:06:22.560 season. There's people being hired for the census. That's only an every several years sort of a

00:06:28.300 thing. We have FIFA going for us right now. And we still have the second highest unemployment

00:06:35.560 in the G7. So no, we didn't recover those jobs. Rosemary Barton's just being dishonest. A lot of

00:06:43.100 these are temporary jobs. They are transient jobs that once we start hitting September and October

00:06:50.480 will be completely wiped out.

00:06:53.100 Scheer is mentioning that back in January,

00:06:55.980 even when you removed the summer job

00:06:58.080 or the winter retail jobs from the mix,

00:07:01.500 you know, people working at like Christmas tree lots

00:07:03.860 and in malls and whatnot,

00:07:05.300 once you removed all those

00:07:06.280 and didn't take those job losses into account,

00:07:08.500 in January or February, I believe it was January,

00:07:11.800 2026, 84,000 jobs were lost.

00:07:15.560 The vast majority obviously being from the private sector.

00:07:18.800 Those are not temporary jobs.

00:07:20.480 those were full-time permanent positions that were wiped out and now we're going to pretend

00:07:25.600 like we're doing great because in may we created 88 000 jobs which a bunch of them were public

00:07:31.200 sector census a bunch of them were tied to fifa and a bunch of them are typical summer jobs that

00:07:36.000 we always end up having a big boost of in the summer and then they drop off once we go into

00:07:41.280 the fall there's nothing wrong with them that's just the reality of it all this well then then

00:07:46.560 Then they recovered the jobs, though.

00:07:48.020 Well, they still net down.

00:07:51.940 And this is coming at a time when the Canadian dollar keeps falling, prices keep going up.

00:07:57.560 And Canadians are sitting back saying, hey, this was a prime minister that said that he was going to move at unimaginable speeds.

00:08:03.200 Oosa Trove, like, where are the results?

00:08:05.880 Still not a single new project has completed the process through the major projects office.

00:08:11.540 Still no movement on repealing bad liberal laws that chased away investment.

00:08:15.260 And Canadians are paying for that.

00:08:16.740 Higher prices at the grocery store, lost jobs, and falling further and further into debt.

00:08:21.980 This is not what Mark Carney promised Canadians in the last election.

00:08:25.220 Okay, but to your point, I mean, you can't criticize them for not moving fast enough

00:08:29.560 and then criticize them for shutting down debate on legislation.

00:08:32.500 Yes, you can.

00:08:34.620 Yes, yes, you can do that, Rosemary. 0.74

00:08:38.340 Has this woman never observed politics before?

00:08:41.360 does she not understand the concept of context? If they are moving to shut down debate around

00:08:50.780 bills like Bill C-22, that is just a massive privacy violation in legislative form. That is

00:08:58.200 not, that's not hypocrisy on Scheer's part for having a problem with the government shutting

00:09:03.760 down debate on Bill C-9 and Bill C-22 and other bills that are going to make the lives of Canadians

00:09:10.720 worse, and then saying that we want them to move ahead faster on cutting taxes and regulations.

00:09:16.720 Those two thoughts are perfectly coherent. We want them to be moving faster on getting rid of

00:09:22.660 gas taxes and the industrial carbon tax and cutting income taxes and cutting regulations,

00:09:27.480 and we want them to slow down and actually debate the laws that are going to require

00:09:33.420 internet service providers and VPNs to just on a whim show the government their customers'

00:09:39.420 personal information without a proper you know without going through the normal warrant process

00:09:44.560 that is a very different complaint and but she's acting like this is hypocrisy because that's all

00:09:50.700 she has this is like debating a redditor mark carney promised canadians in the last election

00:09:55.400 okay but but to your point i mean you can't criticize them for not moving fast enough

00:10:00.240 and then criticize them for shutting down debate on legislation that is allowing them to implement

00:10:04.640 their agenda can you well if i feel so bad for andrew sheer here because he just wants to haul 0.98

00:10:10.480 off and call her a complete idiot on tv and he can't if you look at the the bills that we allowed 0.96

00:10:16.000 to to move quickly through and specifically was the major projects office we we believe that the 0.99

00:10:20.960 better approach to get big projects built in canada is to remove those laws that block investment

00:10:25.520 repeal the no need pipeline laws repeal the west coast shipping uh ban they have repealed

00:10:31.280 industrial carbon tax is still there oh wow wow rosemary the vast the biggest problem the vast

00:10:42.080 majority of the problem is still there oh well we've we've repealed some very minor issues of

00:10:48.480 regulations around approving new major projects bill c5 basically just allows the government to

00:10:53.840 just fast track projects through the regulatory process it's not really suspending uh it's not

00:11:01.120 not really like a big regulatory cleanup. If that ever happened, I would celebrate it. It didn't

00:11:06.740 happen. Bill C-5 allows the government to suspend regulations for projects that it approves, but so

00:11:13.200 far they've effectively approved nothing that is surprising. It's stuff that's three quarters of

00:11:19.040 the way already complete or it's a minor expansion of an already established project. Just very

00:11:24.720 obvious things that were probably not going to be held up by that many regulatory hurdles in the

00:11:29.740 first place, are being fast-tracked to, let's say, be done three or four months in advance

00:11:34.360 of their about five or six-year timeline.

00:11:38.200 Her acting as if they've gotten rid of all the regulations and immediately having to

00:11:44.260 pull back and be like, well, yeah, Bill C-69, Bill C-48 are still there, but what do you

00:11:49.080 want, the world?

00:11:49.980 What do you want, perfection, Andrew?

00:11:52.180 It's like, well, no, we want basic things.

00:11:55.940 We want basic things to be reformed.

00:11:58.560 You should be able to ship oil and gas off the West Coast.

00:12:02.460 You should be able to build a pipeline without a million legal challenges from First Nations and environmentalist groups.

00:12:10.000 Just simple as. 0.97

00:12:11.240 But again, just dumb interruptions by Rosemary Barton. 1.00

00:12:14.040 She tramples the people that she's interviewing. 1.00

00:12:17.300 Repeal the no new pipeline laws. 0.99

00:12:19.260 Repeal the West Coast shipping ban.

00:12:22.060 They have repealed most of them.

00:12:23.480 They have repealed most of them.

00:12:25.320 The industrial carbon tax is still there.

00:12:27.220 The shipping ban is still there.

00:12:28.560 there yeah no we we said we said the best thing to do is remove those laws that caused the problem

00:12:33.520 in the first place mark carney said give him a new bureaucracy and he would get results so we said

00:12:38.000 okay well you know you you won the election you get to try it your way that bill moved through

00:12:41.600 quickly very quickly through the house of commons we're now almost pretty much a year after that

00:12:46.480 bill became law nothing absolutely zero results from it i pointed this out when bill c5 was passed

00:12:53.600 with conservative support uh back last year i know a lot of people were mad about it and there

00:12:58.000 there's even other creators saying, oh, this is a betrayal of conservatism to vote for something

00:13:02.900 that the liberals are putting up. Bill C-5 in general is bad because it's basically allowing

00:13:07.480 the government to pick winners and losers. It's like, okay, I agree. Right now we're all losers.

00:13:12.880 So I'm not necessarily against a couple projects being fast-tracked, but I also understood the 0.94

00:13:19.300 conservative strategy of saying, hey, here's all the rope you want, go hang yourself, because they

00:13:25.140 know that the liberals don't actually want to be moving major energy projects through at a fast

00:13:32.220 pace. They want to slow it all down. They were hoping the conservatives were probably going to

00:13:35.960 block and debate it with them. Then they could blame the conservatives for Bill C-5, maybe even

00:13:40.840 today, still not being passed. We can't approve any major projects because the conservatives are

00:13:45.380 blocking them. Conservatives just stepped out of the way and said, go for it. And the carny liberals

00:13:49.380 have done absolutely nothing with it.

00:13:53.660 I want to ask you about Kuzma, if I can,

00:13:55.600 because that's the other thing that's sort of on the horizon.

00:13:57.860 And it does sound now from all sides

00:14:01.100 as though the July 1st deadline, the review deadline,

00:14:04.540 isn't going to be met.

00:14:05.540 That is not the end of the world, as you know.

00:14:07.680 They can continue to talk and negotiate.

00:14:09.800 But what would you like to see from the government

00:14:12.660 to be able to point to Canadians, to say to Canadians,

00:14:16.220 listen, we don't have a deal yet, but we're making progress.

00:14:18.700 What would you like to see from the government?

00:14:21.040 Well, we'd like to see some kind of consistency.

00:14:23.080 Mark Carney went from, you know, elbows up to make America great again.

00:14:28.300 He unilaterally dropped retaliatory tariffs very quietly without informing Canadians about that.

00:14:34.400 So it's difficult to know what the approach is.

00:14:36.540 He says things like, who cares when he's asked about the progress?

00:14:39.980 I care on behalf of a lot of people I represent in the steel industry and manufacturing.

00:14:44.480 But what we've always said is that we can't control Donald Trump,

00:14:46.900 but we can control what we do here as a country.

00:14:49.320 Mark Carney does not need to impose an industrial carbon tax

00:14:51.940 on Canadian workers, Canadian steel companies,

00:14:54.240 Canadian manufacturers, the American competitors

00:14:56.780 that our businesses have to go and compete with.

00:14:59.320 They don't have to pay that industrial carbon tax.

00:15:01.360 We don't need an American president to force Canada

00:15:04.500 to repeal some of those laws that have chased away investment.

00:15:07.160 We still have those laws in the books,

00:15:08.960 the no new pipelines bill, the shipping ban.

00:15:11.200 There's all kinds of things we can do in advance of negotiations

00:15:14.940 or while negotiations are taking place

00:15:16.560 that we should be doing anyway to make our economy stronger, to create more jobs, and to bring

00:15:20.500 prices, to bring stability to prices. Someone should check on Rosemary. She hasn't interrupted 0.99

00:15:26.140 once yet. And I was thinking that she was going to babble her way into Andrew Scheer's point here

00:15:31.340 and say, oh, well, you know, do you not hate Orange Man? Do you not hate Donald Trump? Aren't

00:15:36.080 you really defending Donald Trump here? Mark Carney's not doing any of that. He's doubled

00:15:40.180 Justin Trudeau's deficits. That puts pressure on inflation and eventually interest rates. So it's

00:15:44.980 the same approach, just different rhetoric. But the results, that's what Canadians care about.

00:15:50.020 When they go in the grocery store, they want to see those prices stabilize. They want to see their

00:15:53.520 dollar purchase more. They want to see that investment coming into Canada to actually build

00:15:58.160 things. None of that is happening a year into Mark Carney's administration. I'm going to end

00:16:02.700 on Alberta if I can't because your leader is going to. Apparently there was just no actual way of

00:16:07.880 countering what he was saying there. So she let it go. I really don't care about the Alberta issue

00:16:13.040 because the CBC wants to talk more and more about separatism and independence because the legacy

00:16:18.900 media loves to use separatism in Alberta as a boogeyman. I'm an Albertan. I really don't care

00:16:25.440 about the independence issue. I'd probably vote to stay. And it's not because I'm offended by the

00:16:30.220 pro-independence people. I get their arguments. Basically, my stance is that if you leave Canada

00:16:35.680 and Alberta goes independent, the lows get higher, but the highs also get lower. Yes, in Canada,

00:16:42.580 being part of Canada means that the lows are really low, but on the flip side, if you can

00:16:47.300 figure it all out and actually reform the country one day, the highs are so much higher.

00:16:53.000 Anyways, I now want to jump over to this poll result that I thought was very interesting,

00:17:01.440 because the legacy media and the Liberal Party, of course, have been putting a lot of effort

00:17:06.460 into trying to convince Canadians that we are not in a recession. And this was an interesting

00:17:11.320 result from the recent Abacus data poll. Now, this recent poll does have the federal liberals

00:17:17.340 leading the conservatives by eight points. Now, that's pretty much what their last poll showed,

00:17:22.500 and it's much better than what they used to be showing, which was a 13% lead for the liberals.

00:17:28.380 So it's an eight-point lead for the liberals right now. But interestingly enough, the majority of

00:17:33.260 Canadians do believe that we are in a recession. Look at this. This is the question, quote,

00:17:38.500 Thinking about the Canadian economy right now, do you think Canada is currently in a recession?

00:17:43.400 57% of respondents said yes, only 23% said no, and 20% are not sure.

00:17:52.280 There is such good soil right now for the Conservative Party to be running on bold fiscal and tax reform.

00:18:02.420 They should just know what? I actually have to give a big shout out, even though usually this party is quite blah and I don't really care what they're doing. But the Tories in the UK, not reform, not restore Britain, but the normal UK conservatives who have not been having a good last couple of election cycles, they are actually running on welfare reform, on cutting welfare because it's holding the economy back.

00:18:27.840 And it's getting more people thinking that they should show up to Britain, who are migrants, you know, illegal, fake refugees, to then exploit the welfare system. 0.83

00:18:37.200 The best way of preventing people from wanting to come to the UK and maybe even getting some people to leave is cutting the welfare off and letting them go elsewhere. 1.00

00:18:46.340 Maybe back home would be ideal. 0.98

00:18:48.140 I actually think the conservative party should also be thinking of that, that we have so much social service spending rather than investing in actual growth opportunities for the country.

00:18:59.180 And of course, I always go back to my normal pitch of the conservatives should be cutting taxes 20% across all income brackets for 20% for corporate taxes, as well as taking a point off the GST.

00:19:12.020 Now, I have some people in the comments sometimes saying, Wyatt, you are very doggedly advocating for this every single week, and I like the idea too. What can I do to promote it? Tell your local conservative MP about it. You don't have to mention my name. It's not exactly that thrilling of an idea. It's not like I'm the first person to come up with the idea of cutting taxes in an actual big way.

00:19:34.520 but they should be running on that instead of just micro taxes. Because even if you can explain

00:19:40.520 how much money someone will save by getting rid of the industrial carbon tax and suspending the

00:19:44.480 fuel tax and getting rid of the tax on used vehicles, you need something that applies to

00:19:49.100 everybody and is instantly understood on the back of a napkin. Huh, my small business, my medium

00:19:54.420 sized business is going to pay 20% less taxes. I pay 20% less on my income and the GST is going

00:20:00.220 down a bit, fantastic. That is what we need. So tell your local conservative MP, please run on a

00:20:07.740 big, simple tax cut. 20% lower income and corporate taxes, one point off the GST, bring it down to 4%.

00:20:17.460 Easy, simple, because this poll result, as well as some of the other poll results out from

00:20:23.880 Apicus that I'll be analyzing on the whiteboard in another video, are demonstrating that Canadians

00:20:29.160 are very skeptical of the liberals on affordability. And oftentimes what puts their

00:20:35.020 skepticism over the top and makes them break from the liberals is if the conservatives are just so

00:20:41.260 much stronger on the issue. Are the conservatives stronger on economics and public finance than the

00:20:46.940 liberals? Definitely. But if you're the average voter who really doesn't follow politics day to

00:20:53.000 day, who doesn't read the platforms of the different parties and doesn't follow things that

00:20:57.500 closely, you would maybe be able to be tricked into the idea, well, both parties kind of just

00:21:03.400 want to cut taxes. Conservatives proposed like a two and a quarter percent tax cut. Liberals

00:21:09.060 put forward a one percent tax cut. Both of those were only for under $50,000. They're about equal.

00:21:15.680 The Conservatives shouldn't be running, jumping foot to put, explaining, no, no, no, but we'll

00:21:19.200 also suspend the gas tax. No, but we'll also get rid of the tax on used cars and the industrial

00:21:25.320 carbon tax is going away. Keep it simple. Yes, get rid of the industrial carbon tax too.

00:21:31.520 Maybe if you combine getting rid of that tax and lowering income taxes, you can just lower income

00:21:36.020 taxes by 18% or 17% across the board, but make it an across every bracket tax cut. And then you'll

00:21:44.740 have all these people kind of hanging on by a thread to thinking the liberals, maybe they'll

00:21:49.260 do something on affordability one day, as soon as the conservatives just propose something so

00:21:53.340 obviously better, like just going to be substantially better. You're not just getting

00:21:57.860 $300 back on your taxes. You're getting like $6,000, $4,000 back on your taxes. People will

00:22:04.400 break from the liberals immediately and go and commit themselves to the conservatives.

00:22:08.420 This is what they need to be doing. But anyways, with all that being said,

00:22:14.020 thank you guys for watching today. Make sure to like the video, subscribe, leave a comment,

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00:22:24.140 And also, if you live in the North Vancouver Capilano riding, there is going to be a by-election

00:22:29.520 in that riding sometime during the summer, probably around late August. Make sure you check out the

00:22:34.740 CPC candidate Stephen Curran's website. Sign up for a lawn sign if you live in the boundaries of

00:22:40.180 that riding. It's the one that Jonathan Wilkinson is resigning from. And if you don't live in the

00:22:45.520 riding, but you live close to it in the Vancouver area, make sure you sign up to volunteer if you

00:22:50.560 have any time, even just for one day. I don't live around there. I'm in Calgary, but I might

00:22:55.320 even fly out to do a few days of door knocking because by-elections are wacky. The turnout is

00:23:00.960 very weird in by-elections. If conservatives slam the ballot boxes, they will win. Anyways,

00:23:07.560 with all that being said, thank you guys for watching. I'll see you all later.

The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - June 23, 2026

Liberal CBC Host gets CALLED OUT by Conservative Live!

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