The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - Liberal debate was AWFUL and proves Conservatives will win in 2025!

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here. So I just got finished watching the crushingly long two-hour

00:00:07.900 English Liberal Party leadership debate, and my goodness, this thing was very on-brand for

00:00:14.300 the Liberals these days. It was both awful and extremely dull. We had four candidates there,

00:00:21.500 Frank Bayless, Mark Carney, Karina Gould, and Chrystia Freeland, and they pretty much all did

00:00:28.420 bad from a conservative's perspective like myself. But when even considering what a Liberal would

00:00:34.460 think about this debate, I don't think many of the candidates did themselves much good,

00:00:39.140 especially the two who are recognized as the real frontrunners, Mark Carney and Chrystia Freeland

00:00:45.740 to a lesser extent. To put it in a nutshell for those of you who don't want to watch a full debate

00:00:52.020 breakdown, I would say the best two performing candidates were Frank Bayless and Karina Gould,

00:00:57.600 but they're not going to win, so they're really only increasing their support to potentially pass

00:01:02.800 it either to Carney or Freeland. And this very much is still a leadership race close enough that

00:01:08.060 Freeland could win, and Mark Carney has definitely only been shooting himself in the foot with these

00:01:14.440 performances because you don't understand the hype he has on social media and in the legacy media

00:01:21.140 when you watch him performing on stage. He's just an accountant, effectively. Just some random accountant

00:01:28.980 walked on stage and gave generic liberal coded answers for every question he was asked.

00:01:36.120 Anyways, well let's take this thing from top to bottom. I'm not going to show too many clips because

00:01:41.800 I don't want any of you to fall asleep while you're driving, but I will be kind of going over what the arc

00:01:47.720 of the debate was. But before I get to that, guys, remember to like this video, subscribe to the

00:01:53.680 channel, leave a comment because it really helps me in the algorithm. I've had some people complain,

00:01:58.800 Wyatt, stop telling people to like the video and subscribe. If I don't tell people to subscribe,

00:02:03.260 you'd be shocked how few people will subscribe, even on a video that gets like 50,000 views.

00:02:08.800 A lot of people are in the zone, they're doing their own thing, so mentioning it does help me get to

00:02:13.780 my goal of 100,000 by December. Anyways, okay, let's just start off with a clip of Mark Carney.

00:02:22.620 I'll be doing letter grades. I'll roll them out a little bit later in the video when I've given you

00:02:28.400 a little bit of evidence for why I would kind of give each person the grade I'm going to give them.

00:02:33.840 But let's just start off with a clip of Mark Carney. This is a clip his own campaign uploaded,

00:02:39.120 so they think this was a good moment. This was in response to a question about how he would be

00:02:45.120 different from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. I'm different in the following respects.

00:02:52.360 First, focus on the economy. Laser focus on the economy, and that means good jobs, people's wages

00:02:59.880 growing faster than inflation. It means getting prices down. It means building homes. It means

00:03:05.540 building a future for this country. Secondly, I'm much more...

00:03:09.540 I know, and I apologize ahead of time, guys. I am subjecting you to this, but this is basically

00:03:15.700 his entire performance in one clip. He lists a lot of things. He sounds pretend detailed. He is

00:03:23.200 pretend competent.

00:03:25.420 ...hands-on. Much more of a hands-on person, hands-on manager. I focus on results and getting

00:03:31.460 things done. Thirdly, and I've heard this, I'm fortunate to have support in the caucus. I hear

00:03:37.940 directly from the supporters about more regular and two-way dialogue with the caucus. I meet with

00:03:45.540 my supporters virtually during the course of this leadership campaign to hear their ideas,

00:03:51.540 to hear their energy, to hear what's going on, what they're seeing on the ground, to share my

00:03:55.380 perspectives in order to move forward.

00:03:57.860 So I think you understand very quickly here. Mark Carney is a walking, talking,

00:04:04.740 beige wall-roomed focus group. The man has nothing but his buzzwords. His team told him to go out there

00:04:11.860 and mention the economy a lot, but then sound detailed and thoughtful about it and say, well,

00:04:16.820 it's not just the economy. It's about jobs. It's about wages growing faster than inflation. It's about

00:04:22.180 love and unity or whatever. We need to be hands-on, not hands-off. We need to have a

00:04:28.740 two-way dialogue. I can feel them sending out a questionnaire and two-way dialogue pulled quite

00:04:35.780 well as something that metropolitan liberals like to hear. Canadians themselves, do you think a working

00:04:42.580 class guy is going to respond well to this? And mark my words, that is the big demographic group that's

00:04:50.580 going to cause the liberals to not win. Let's be very clear. Doesn't matter what many of the pollsters

00:04:56.660 are saying. I think they're just off. They're not faking it. I think they're just wrong. The conservatives

00:05:01.460 are going to win in 2025. And it's because the liberals do not appeal to middle-aged working-class men.

00:05:08.980 That is the demographic. They are losing to the conservatives by a margin of like 30 points. The conservatives,

00:05:16.020 that middle-class, especially trade school, trade school like plumber type man that, you know,

00:05:22.660 between the ages of 25 and 45, the conservatives are winning it by like dictatorship numbers,

00:05:28.340 like above 50%. Nothing Mark Carney said there was good at all. And I want to move on to Karina Gould,

00:05:34.820 because that absolutely flabby response reminded me a lot of stuff that Karina Gould said.

00:05:40.500 A lot of these people, here is just her answering a question. She's very much like Mark Carney.

00:05:49.460 She positioned herself as more of like the core lefty of the leadership race. She backs UBI. She 0.97

00:05:56.100 says, we can't back off the carbon tax. We need more subsidies. We need the government to invest in

00:06:01.220 the economy and whatnot. Socialism. But she would engage in the same inane rhetoric that Mark Carney did.

00:06:08.900 So like her, her answers on Donald Trump were like, Donald Trump's a big, mean, scary man,

00:06:17.780 and we got to stand up strong because he won't respect us unless we stand up and we do it strongly.

00:06:24.500 I am parodying her answer, but that was what it was like. Had no examples of what she would do.

00:06:30.340 She had nothing really to say about like what assets Canada has that can leverage against the

00:06:37.300 United States. This is where Frank Bales did far better. When Frank Bales talked about a topic,

00:06:42.020 you could tell he actually worked in business. I still wouldn't vote for any of these people. I'm

00:06:45.780 a conservative. I don't like any of them. But if I'm an average voter, I feel like Frank Bales actually

00:06:52.100 gave detail that wasn't consultancy detail. Consultant detail is just nice sounding words.

00:06:59.140 Frank Bales would say something that might have even ticked off certain people, but you could see

00:07:04.020 that another demographic of voters would probably really resonate to it. But here's Karina Gould

00:07:08.660 talking and you will quickly notice the tablum. And I pushed Mark on his economic ideas because this

00:07:16.020 has to be a debate. Oh, this is actually not from the debate. This is from the press conference

00:07:22.260 afterwards, but we'll still listen to this. I think it still has to do with debate.

00:07:25.300 It has to be a debate of ideas. The whole point of this liberal leadership race is so that liberals

00:07:31.380 have a chance to see who we are as candidates, to make an informed decision about the vision that we

00:07:38.100 are putting forward. And this is just a test run for the real debate that's going to come in the

00:07:43.780 election. And Pierre Pauliev, Yves-François Blanchet, Jagmeet Singh, they're not going to be nearly as

00:07:49.460 nice as I was. I had kid gloves on this morning or this evening. You know, when it comes to the real

00:07:54.900 debate, it was very clear to me that last night and tonight, I am the only one of the candidates

00:08:00.900 who's ready to take on those opposition leaders tomorrow if needed. That was the funny thing about the

00:08:06.740 debate. It was considered, people considered Karina Gould like the attack dog. She really didn't 0.96

00:08:13.620 hit anyone that hard. She's right. She was using kid gloves, but it's not because she's such a,

00:08:19.540 you know, she's so tough and she's really going to take the pure poly of if she's the leader. No, she 1.00

00:08:24.740 would get steamrolled too. She just happened to be taking slight jabs at other people, but it really 0.99

00:08:30.580 wasn't much of anything. That was the funny thing. Karina Gould pretends like I was the one

00:08:34.660 with ideas up there. Like her ideas are UBI and keeping the carbon tax. And that I guess was her big hit on

00:08:40.420 Mark Carney is that he didn't have ideas, which means that he had zero ideas. She had like one

00:08:45.380 and a half ideas. I'll grab up a, I need to grab up. I want to grab up a clip of her talking specifically

00:08:52.580 about Donald Trump. This is what I mean when I say that she sounds a lot like Mark Carney in the fact

00:08:58.820 that she kind of just has vague ideas. Christy Freeland and all this, and I haven't talked about

00:09:03.220 her yet because she was also extremely dull and I can't even keep the four of them straight

00:09:07.860 based on how terrible the debate was. But her thing was just patriotism projecting. We need to

00:09:13.540 be strong Canadians and stand up to the bully Donald Trump and pure poly who's taking pages

00:09:18.020 out of Donald Trump's playbook and Donald Trump, Donald Trump, Canadian maple leaves,

00:09:21.780 maple syrup. That was basically Christy Freeland. She had no detail, but at least she was being honest

00:09:27.860 about the fact that she was just surface level Canadian patriotism projecting and that was it.

00:09:33.140 Look, men like Donald Trump have always underestimated leaders like me, but they

00:09:39.300 underestimate me and that's their mistake. And I think as Canadians, we know what that's like.

00:09:45.380 We know how to stand up for who we are and to stand up to bullies. And that's something that I've

00:09:50.420 been doing in the House of Commons for the last decade. I know how to stand up to people like Pierre

00:09:55.300 Polyev who, when it comes to Donald Trump, would rather imitate him than stand up for Canada.

00:10:01.380 I know how to stand up to me.

00:10:03.060 What do you mean by imitate him? Because if any of these people actually named a policy

00:10:06.820 that Polyev and Donald Trump share, every Canadian would be like, well, it's probably

00:10:10.740 because that just seems like common sense to do. That's the thing. None of these people can actually

00:10:14.980 make a substantial attack on Donald Trump past the tariffs because if they were to start

00:10:20.820 criticizing a lot of Trump's domestic policy and I can have my own criticisms of some of the things

00:10:25.780 that Trump does, I'm not really a big fan of tariffs. I don't even think it's good for the

00:10:29.940 American people for them to be tariffing people who aren't national security threats. Sometimes I

00:10:34.340 disagree with them on certain foreign policy decisions. But for the most part, the liberals

00:10:39.060 can't really name anything because cutting wasteful spending is extremely popular in Canada these days.

00:10:44.420 The cutting tax is extremely popular. Going away from climate plans is very popular.

00:10:50.260 You know, increasing law enforcement spending is very popular. Like putting back in place

00:10:55.540 mandatory minimums is very popular. So Karina Gould is just basically saying, I don't like Donald

00:11:00.500 Trump and you guys probably don't like Donald Trump too. And Pierre Polyev is vaguely like him

00:11:05.220 because they use similar language about fake news sometimes, which is entirely warranted.

00:11:10.660 People who want to take from us what is rightfully ours. We are a proud, sovereign country. And as

00:11:17.460 Canadians, we have so much to offer, but also the Americans depend on us. And you can't bring a

00:11:23.460 calculator to a knife fight. You have to fight very strongly and with the right tools. And that's

00:11:29.460 exactly what I'm going to do as prime minister.

00:11:31.780 We got to fight strongly and with the right tools. Thanks, lady. Thanks. I didn't realize that we had

00:11:38.260 to fight strongly and with the right tools. I thought we had to sit down, fight weakly,

00:11:43.540 and use all the wrong tools. Here's Frank Bayless. And I think his answer on Trump was probably the best

00:11:50.500 because he gives substance. Again, I don't even agree exactly with his plan, but he has a specific plan.

00:11:57.220 And it's a specific plan you can say yes or no to. And I think a lot of these other campaigns,

00:12:01.940 they're thinking, well, I don't want to say anything concrete because someone could disagree

00:12:05.860 with me. And this is not just a liberal thing. It's something that happens frequently, even in

00:12:10.100 the federal conservatives. Even today, sometimes the federal conservatives are too meek in rolling

00:12:15.220 something like just take a hard stance now. Even if people attack you now, take the stance now,

00:12:21.060 fight for it, and then change people's minds. Having vague stances that nobody can really disagree with

00:12:26.740 also means nobody's really going to run out of their house on election day to vote for it either.

00:12:31.380 This is where I agree actually with the more conservative people in the BC Provincial

00:12:37.620 Conservative Caucus because they've been doing a really good job taking tough stances that gets

00:12:42.500 the NDP really mad, that ticks off the legacy media. But if they stick it out and fight for it,

00:12:47.940 they're going to get a big benefit from doing that sort of thing. And I'm specifically talking about

00:12:53.140 MLA's like Dallas Brody, Brent Chapman, Heather Ma. A lot of these people have been doing really

00:13:00.580 good work. Tara Armstrong taking a tough stance. The media criticizes you, but if you win in the

00:13:05.940 long run, you triple your winnings almost. If you don't risk anything, you'll win nothing.

00:13:13.140 But here's Frank Bale was talking about Donald Trump.

00:13:15.780 So I've negotiated hundreds and hundreds of contracts with Americans over my 40-year career.

00:13:20.980 And from time to time, I run into the character of Mr. Trump. So it's not new to me.

00:13:25.620 On this point, I published a letter one day before his inauguration, when I said clearly,

00:13:30.740 he's not going to put 25% tariffs on everything, but he is going to...

00:13:34.420 By the way, I actually do give Frank Bales a lot of credit for that. And I gave him credit when he

00:13:38.260 was the first guy to announce his leadership run. He was the only person in this entire race who was

00:13:43.860 not dumb enough to think that they were actually going to put 25% tariffs on us. 0.95

00:13:48.260 I even was predicting, and even I started wavering on my own prediction, that they'll find an excuse 0.95

00:13:53.220 by the end not to do it. Because dude, that would hurt Trump in the Midwest really hard,

00:13:57.860 where they rely on a lot of Canadian imports.

00:14:00.180 ...attack certain industries. The first one I said he's going to attack is steel.

00:14:04.420 It's exactly what he did. I tell you this to tell you that I know how to deal with him.

00:14:09.220 And it's important to understand that Mr. Trump is a bully. 0.98

00:14:12.100 And you do not give one inch to a bully. In that case, we cannot be learning this on the job. 0.95

00:14:19.620 That's where I come in. I have the experience and the expertise to deal with Donald Trump.

00:14:24.660 I can predict what he'll do, and then I can help build our defenses to stop him from doing those

00:14:30.580 things, and also counterattack, which unfortunately is going to be necessary.

00:14:35.300 This way, I will protect our country, I will protect our economy, I will protect our culture,

00:14:40.740 and I will protect our sovereignty.

00:14:44.100 Yeah, so it's still very much just boilerplate rhetoric.

00:14:48.580 But I found like he actually moved on and said, I wouldn't meet with Trump. I would maybe send some

00:14:52.740 people down to meet for him on my behalf, but I'm not going to subject myself to one of these

00:14:58.260 embarrassing moments where he makes me sit outside his office for two hours. I'll put my counter

00:15:03.780 tariffs in place, and then I'll sit and wait for him to negotiate with me. Again, not a stupid idea. 0.99

00:15:10.180 Not a dumb idea. I think that if we just tighten up on border security, and we start spending more 0.95

00:15:15.380 in the military, Trump's not going to have a reason to tariff us. And if he did anyways,

00:15:19.380 he would then look like an idiot, because we did what he wanted, and it still wasn't good enough, 1.00

00:15:23.460 and his voters would then turn on him. I'm saying this as somebody who actually doesn't mind Trump 1.00

00:15:27.380 at all. But from the perspective, as Canadians, obviously, we can't say, well, I like Trump from

00:15:33.060 a US context, so he should do whatever he wants. We still have to look out for this country first,

00:15:37.940 and that's where Pierre Polyev's plan has been the best of lowering taxes, making us hyper-competitive,

00:15:43.860 so that it doesn't matter if a tariff us or not, we could actually suck jobs from their economy into

00:15:48.420 our economy, because it's easier to do business here. That's why I hate the stupid Canada, you know, 1.00

00:15:53.540 Team Canada approach that Doug Ford and Justin Trudeau have been pushing forward. By the way, 1.00

00:15:59.380 if you live in Ontario, please, tomorrow, go and vote for the new blue party of Ontario.

00:16:04.500 It doesn't matter if they get a seat or not. Everyone's like, well, they can't win a seat.

00:16:08.580 Doug Ford is just fat Trudeau at this point. My friend Daniel Boardman put out a great chart showing that

00:16:13.860 right now in Ontario, your options are fat Trudeau, female Trudeau, other female Trudeau, 0.99

00:16:21.460 and green Trudeau. So if you vote new blue, at least you're indicating, hey, can somebody be

00:16:26.420 conservative in this province? And then if none of them do that, then the next time, the next election,

00:16:31.780 the next real election, because it's like a province-wide by-election right now in Ontario,

00:16:37.140 there might be enough momentum to have new blue get three or four seats. Anyway, so let's move on to

00:16:43.860 some of the stuff that Christia Freeland said. And then I want to jump over to some of the hits on

00:16:50.100 Mark Carney that came from the Conservatives, because he's just not smooth on his feet at all.

00:16:55.540 He's not just boring. He constantly causes himself a lot of injuries by being very inaccurate with how he

00:17:02.500 speaks. So we here we have Christia Freeland basically saying that and this is this is the

00:17:11.380 most on brand thing she said the entire night of thinking that we need to partner with people who

00:17:16.900 have nuclear weapons to protect our Arctic, also implying that we have to defend ourselves militarily

00:17:22.180 from the Americans. The US is turning predator. And so what Canada needs to do is work closely with

00:17:29.460 our democratic allies, our military allies. I've been foreign minister. I know how to do that.

00:17:35.540 That's why I would start with our Nordic partners, specifically Denmark, which is also being threatened,

00:17:41.220 and our European NATO allies. I would be sure that France and Britain were there to possess nuclear

00:17:47.780 weapons. And I would be working urgently with those partners to build a closer security relationship

00:17:54.900 that guarantees our security in a time when the United States can be a threat.

00:18:00.980 Yeah, I literally finished off there saying can be a threat. Like, whoa, lady, are you planning on

00:18:07.060 fighting the United States? And that's that again, that was her entire performance is that the United

00:18:13.060 States is very bad. Donald Trump is very bad. Pure poly of is like Donald Trump, and we need to fight. 0.95

00:18:18.660 And, you know, maple leaves and maple syrup or whatever. That was her entire thing. She was

00:18:24.100 probably the candidate on stage with the least amount of specifics. The candidate with the most

00:18:28.420 specifics was probably Frank Bayless, followed behind by Karina Gould, and then Mark Carney. But Mark Carney was

00:18:34.580 probably closer to Christia Freeland on the scale of being extremely limited in his details. Again, he would

00:18:41.620 give fake details. Like, we need to build an economy, and that economy needs to be made up of workers who have

00:18:47.860 two hands and 10 fingers and 10 toes. And we also need AI. We need intelligence. We need industry.

00:18:55.540 And he would just kind of keep like saying stuff that didn't mean anything, where at least Frank

00:18:59.700 Bayless would specifically talk about, like, specific investments he wants to make or targeted tax cuts,

00:19:06.020 or that he actually was the one who said we need to force through a pipeline east and west. And that's at

00:19:11.860 least somewhat, you know, unique for a Montrealer to say that he would force Quebec to build a pipeline.

00:19:18.740 So neat. So if I'm giving out letter grades, I'll keep talking about the debate after the letter

00:19:23.780 grades. If I'm giving out letter grades, I give Carney a C. He is there. He gets a C for Carney. He is

00:19:32.260 barely there. I don't notice him. He does himself no favors. The more you watch him, the less you

00:19:37.220 understand why there is hype online for him. I never understood in the first place, to be fair.

00:19:42.580 So he gets a C. Christy Freeland, honestly, I'd give her like, and I'm talking purely from a liberal

00:19:50.900 members context. Who helped themselves in this leadership race, even if they don't have a chance

00:19:56.980 of winning? I would give Christy Freeland a B minus. She wasn't specific at all, and that would rub a lot

00:20:03.700 of people the wrong way. But for frankly, eastern Canadian, like metropolitan boomers,

00:20:12.260 certain ones of them will really like the laid on thick anti-American and anti-poly of rhetoric.

00:20:18.660 So that probably bumped her up a little bit. I do think probably Carney lost ground in this debate,

00:20:24.420 not because again, he failed. It's just because he was so boring that everyone is rising past him and

00:20:28.740 stealing votes just from him being, frankly, extremely dull. I would give, maybe I have to

00:20:35.300 give Mark Carney a C minus then. He didn't embarrass himself exactly. He just was barely there. Karina

00:20:41.700 Gould probably gets an A minus. She was, again, more specific. He kind of mapped herself out the more

00:20:50.340 left-wing vote of the party. The orange liberals that actually Justin Trudeau used in order to win the

00:20:57.300 party leadership and then we used to win the 2015 election. Justin Trudeau is actually a very left

00:21:02.900 progressive liberal. He is very different from Paul Martin or John Chrétien. He is a social

00:21:09.140 progressive first and an economic progressive second. So that's why all his economic policy was

00:21:15.700 so bad. Not only was it very left, but it was left with a very strong focus first on social issues

00:21:22.820 before actual economic outcomes. And that's what Karina Gould is doing with her, you know, 0.97

00:21:29.140 championing of the carbon tax and with her championing of universal basic income and more

00:21:35.540 green investments in boondoggles. She is the pure continuation of Justin Trudeau. Obviously, Mark Carney

00:21:41.860 is the guy who has team Trudeau behind him, but in terms of who is trying to do the closest Trudeau impression

00:21:47.940 is Gould and then followed by Carney simply through the fact that he is literally explicitly stating

00:21:55.780 that he will mostly continue Trudeau era policies minus, you know, we need to focus more on the

00:22:01.220 economy. We need to laser focus on the economy, which means nothing. But yeah, he wants to keep

00:22:06.500 universal dental and all these other things going, but he's going to cut taxes. He's not. All these people

00:22:12.420 only also talk about cutting middle class taxes. It's very easy to cut middle class taxes because

00:22:18.020 as a middle class person myself, we don't pay that much taxes. So if you reduce middle class

00:22:23.060 people's taxes by a bit, a lot of people like you at the same time, you didn't hurt your revenues too

00:22:27.220 much. Our revenues should be hurt on the federal level at this point because we spend way too much

00:22:32.180 money. The federal budget should probably contract by a full 25% at this point. But only I think it was

00:22:39.380 only Frank Bayless who actually talked about cutting like corporate taxes, which is smart. Good. Good

00:22:43.620 on them. They should cut corporate taxes. You should cut people who make more and business taxes because

00:22:49.460 those people actually pay the most and everyone has to buy goods from them and services. So if you cut

00:22:55.940 a corporate taxes, that is actually a bigger tax cut for middle class people than directly cutting

00:23:01.860 middle class taxes by even one or 2%. Anyways, so Karina Gould, A minus, I would give Frank Bayless 0.98

00:23:12.100 an A plus because he's only at like 3% in this leadership race right now. I guarantee he might

00:23:19.300 finish like 8% or even 12% because he's been a big figure in these debates. When you actually look

00:23:26.900 at the polling in terms of Google Trends, who were people looking up during the debate,

00:23:31.700 he was doing quite well. I know some people will say, well, that's just because not a lot of people

00:23:35.620 even knew him in the first place. Yeah. But the problem is I remember Scott Aitchison running in the

00:23:41.300 2022 federal conservative election. You guys probably don't remember him. I barely remember him. He's the

00:23:48.260 housing critic right now for the conservatives, but he never really spiked in the leadership debates

00:23:53.380 because he kind of put forward a very standard red Tory performance that didn't make anyone

00:23:58.420 interested in looking him up. Bayless did. This was the search results during the actual debate.

00:24:06.420 He was 41% of the searches. Chrystia Freeland was only nine because a lot of people already knew who

00:24:12.420 she is and nothing that she was saying really prompted further investigation. She hates Americans. 0.93

00:24:18.740 She's a boilerplate liberal. She's going to tell you that she's been finance minister for a while, 0.83

00:24:23.300 and that's why she deserves something or whatever. Carney got 23% and Karina Gould, 0.97

00:24:29.300 as the other kind of breakout star of the debate, got 27%. But Bayless decisively became the attention

00:24:36.900 getter of the campaign and could turn himself into the real kingmaker if, you know, Freeland and Carney

00:24:44.500 end up getting into that high 30% or lower 40% range. He could throw them all of his second place

00:24:50.340 votes and one of them could get across the finish line. I, again, hope they all lose because I don't

00:24:56.740 like the liberals at all, but I am attempting to be neutral. Anyways, before I move on to the big flub

00:25:03.220 of the night of Mark Carney, I want to, uh, like I want to, I want to talk about, uh, before I talk

00:25:12.260 about like Carney, I want to talk about Carney's flops. Now I want to talk about the reaction that

00:25:15.620 a lot of liberal cheerleaders on the line had to this debate, because I think that it was telling

00:25:22.100 how liberals were trying to spin this debate as a good thing. I thought this debate made them look 0.56

00:25:26.020 bad. Even if certain candidates made themselves look good by comparison to others, the debate overall

00:25:31.460 demonstrated that nobody has any new ideas in the liberal party and nobody really is going to be a

00:25:37.380 big departure from Trudeau. In the question that they were asked about, how are you going to be

00:25:40.820 different from Trudeau? Basically all of them would just say, I'm going to listen to people more and

00:25:44.740 focus on the economy. That was it. Here is a clip actually that conservative MP for Toronto St. Paul,

00:25:51.620 Don Stewart posted to social media saying it was an own goal for Mark Carney. And no doubt,

00:25:57.780 alongside all the other radical statements that Carney has said in the past stuff like this could

00:26:02.180 be easily turned into an anti Mark Carney like advertisement. I want to be clear and Canadians feel

00:26:11.700 this. I want to be clear about the quote strength of our economy. Our economy over the last five years

00:26:19.060 has been driven by a big increase in the labor force, which was largely because of a surge in immigration.

00:26:25.780 It is now trying to be controlled. And by government spending that grew over nine percent year after

00:26:34.820 year after year, twice the rate of growth of our economy. Okay, so our economy was weak before we got

00:26:41.540 to the point of these threats from President Trump. I don't need to play the rest of that for you.

00:26:49.220 Don Stewart said in his post that this was the biggest own goal of the night. And that is absolutely

00:26:55.220 correct. Mark Carney is trying to sound statesmanly, I could admit to some mistakes that the government

00:27:01.620 has made. But he doesn't mention the fact that he was the guy who was advising Trudeau on economic

00:27:09.220 policy for the last five years. And there's no indication that Mark Carney was not being listened to.

00:27:15.140 If anything, and this has been leaked by Freeland staff in Parliament, that she was basically being 0.98

00:27:21.780 forced to implement every stupid idea that Mark Carney had. Now, let's be clear that Christian 1.00

00:27:27.380 Freeland didn't have better ideas than Mark Carney, probably. But every bad consequence over the

00:27:32.900 last five years that Canadians have had to suffer through is because of Mr. Mark Carney. He's just

00:27:39.060 economically incompetent. People point to him and say, well, he did well under Harper and Flaherty.

00:27:43.300 Yeah, because Harper and Flaherty were telling him what to do. In 2008, do you think Mark Carney

00:27:48.500 was calling his own shots? Not a chance. It was earlier in his career. And he is previously

00:27:54.580 starting to leave his more economically, slightly more conservative roots when he was working for

00:28:01.060 Paul Martin as deputy finance minister, and like, you know, actually engaging in some fiscal,

00:28:07.140 you know, restraint. But that was when he was under other people's leadership, and they were telling

00:28:11.460 him what to do. Once he left as the governor of the Bank of Canada, and he became the governor of the

00:28:16.340 Bank of England, and he's been working for his own companies and engaging with the World Economic

00:28:20.660 Forum and the UN, he has gone extremely Keynesian. I was talking to a conservative organizer the other

00:28:27.300 night who's reading Carney's book, and he says that he does name check Karl Marx in his book. This is why

00:28:33.300 I call Mark Carney, Marx Carney, because when you look at the guy's policies, he is left left. I actually

00:28:40.580 I'm very unclear if he even disagrees with Karina Gould on anything, or if he is just less willing

00:28:47.540 to say what she's willing to say out loud, but he would totally do it if he got in. And I think that's

00:28:52.740 probably true. But I'm just talking about in this debate how they're presenting themselves. But yeah,

00:28:57.460 that is going to be an easy advertisement for the conservatives in this next election. Here is another

00:29:04.020 clip that Melissa Lansman had posted. It's just nine seconds. Melissa Lansman is the conservative 0.88

00:29:10.980 MP for Thornhill. And this is Mark Carney. Not what he probably directly means, but this guy's a flub

00:29:17.620 machine on the debate stage, kind of accidentally talking down Canadians by being deeply inaccurate

00:29:23.540 with his language. Mark Carney. Okay. One of the reasons why families have a hard time to afford

00:29:28.900 their groceries is because we haven't had productivity. That's the issue. And everyone's

00:29:35.220 trying to say, well, that's not what he means. He means the economy overall has not been productive.

00:29:39.780 The problem is, is that the blame is not on the Canadian economy, it's on the Canadian government.

00:29:44.900 And yeah, he kind of gave that lip service in the previous clip that government spending has been

00:29:49.460 outpacing the growth of the economy. And most of our growth is only coming from labor. But at the

00:29:55.220 same time, he talks about this as if he's now the man with the secret sauce to tell us how we can be

00:30:01.060 more productive. He's the one who's going to pass the right policies to make it all better. And he's

00:30:05.940 just not. He doesn't know what he's doing. He doesn't know he's doing proven by the last five years.

00:30:11.860 And I don't think that Canadians want this kind of elitist technocrat as their prime minister,

00:30:16.580 a man who thinks he fundamentally knows how to do your job better than you can, even though he's

00:30:22.260 never actually run a small business or he's never started a business. He's simply been on boards and

00:30:28.420 been an advisor on companies that were probably going to succeed whether he was there or not.

00:30:34.260 Anyways, so the last thing I want to cover here today was the real, the weird kind of

00:30:42.100 response that this debate got from liberals online. Here is Carol McNeil, who is a former

00:30:49.700 CBC broadcaster, and she actually ran this post as an advertisement on X. She said,

00:30:57.780 I'm quite enjoying the liberal debate. Everyone comes across as serious minded and thinking about

00:31:02.740 how to make this country better. They're not at each other's throats. I like it. Who cares?

00:31:08.740 Who actually cares that they're not at each other's throats? If anything, they should have been.

00:31:13.380 Because a lot of those people on stage, three out of four of them, minus Bayless, 0.62

00:31:18.500 although Bayless is also corrupt. He was involved in all the ventilator scams during COVID,

00:31:24.500 that all these people should have been going after each other for having bad records in the government.

00:31:29.460 And the fact that they won't proves that they're not serious about fixing the problems.

00:31:33.300 Here's another one from another liberal account online, and these have gotten substantial likes

00:31:39.460 from liberals themselves. Kimbo here says, well, great debate. I thank Christian Freeland for

00:31:44.980 constantly reminding us about how wrong Paul Pierre is for the role of prime minister. Everyone was

00:31:50.900 aware Carney would give it his all in the French debate. He did well. No, he didn't. This actually

00:31:55.540 was for the French debate though, but same difference. Both debates were horrifyingly awful and dull.

00:32:00.340 Nothing said changed my mind. I still believe Mark Carney is the best choice 2025 Canada. I don't know

00:32:06.500 why this has such weird spacing, but what did Carney actually do in any of these debates that made you

00:32:11.860 feel confident at all? He's just an AI. Mark Carney, when he talks, makes me feel like he's a background

00:32:20.740 character in a film, and they just needed him to have some sort of technical sounding dialogue,

00:32:26.020 but they didn't want to try too hard on it. Here is Dr. Matthew S. Johnson, everyone's favorite

00:32:31.220 actual paid liberal shill. He says, Justin Trudeau has been sprinkled into the finish as a Canadian.

00:32:37.300 I appreciate that. That has nothing to do with the debate, but I just found that hilariously out of

00:32:41.700 touch. But he says here about the debate last night, I like Karina's emphasis on affordability by

00:32:48.020 improving the social safety net, but improving the economy through less drastic measures isn't such a

00:32:53.060 terrible idea either, as she criticized Mark Carney and Christia for, and she would need to account

00:32:58.820 for that as PM in a Trump era. Okay, well, I like how he's both saying, I like her ideas, but I also

00:33:05.220 like other ideas too, because this man is paid to not have any ideas past the fact that liberal's good

00:33:11.780 and whoever wins is good. Here is him trying to hype up all this, you know, policy talk, this substantial

00:33:19.060 policy talk that was going on. Not just push money out the door, like quote, that was a quote from

00:33:24.900 Carney, a quote from Carney on defense spending, not just being about arbitrary targets. Freeland responds

00:33:31.220 that reaching 2027 target is a matter of will. Carney tighter approach to fiscal management, I think,

00:33:36.660 is what appeals to a lot of Canadians post Trudeau. And then he says, this is an intelligent debate.

00:33:43.380 No, it is not. None of these people, other than Frank Bayless, actually gave detail. And even then,

00:33:50.340 Frank Bayless, you could say, was wrong on his actual prescriptions for what the economy needs.

00:33:56.100 There are so many liberals posting about how it was so great it was unified. It's not actually great.

00:34:01.140 It proves that they haven't learned a thing since Justin Trudeau announced that he'd be stepping down.

00:34:06.740 All of them show that they are a marginally different person than Justin Trudeau. And the

00:34:12.500 Canadian economy is, in fact, broken. They can say that that's unpatriotic to say it's a fact.

00:34:17.700 And if you're not willing to acknowledge that fact and actually give a full fat reform policy,

00:34:23.300 then you're not useful to anybody in Canada. But anyways, so that should be it. To recap,

00:34:29.540 I'd probably give Frank Bayless for the fact that he actually got a lot of attention these last two

00:34:33.620 debates, an A+. Karina Gould probably mapped out the most distinct portion of the liberals to vote 0.99

00:34:39.780 for. The core left, she gets an A-, I think that Chrystia Freeland, from the perspective of the very 0.99

00:34:46.740 strong anti-American vote in the leadership race, probably gets an A-, and Carney was barely there,

00:34:52.660 so he gets a C-, that was this liberal leadership debate. Like, share, and subscribe for this video,

00:34:59.540 because that was painful to watch. And I'll see you guys all next time.

The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - February 26, 2025

Liberal debate was AWFUL and proves Conservatives will win in 2025!

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