Liberal debate was AWFUL and proves Conservatives will win in 2025!
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Wyatt Claypool breaks down the Liberal leadership debate and gives his thoughts on each of the four candidates, Frank Bayless, Mark Carney, Karina Gould, and Chrystia Freeland. He also gives his letter grades for each of them.
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Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here. So I just got finished watching the crushingly long two-hour
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English Liberal Party leadership debate, and my goodness, this thing was very on-brand for
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the Liberals these days. It was both awful and extremely dull. We had four candidates there,
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Frank Bayless, Mark Carney, Karina Gould, and Chrystia Freeland, and they pretty much all did
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bad from a conservative's perspective like myself. But when even considering what a Liberal would
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think about this debate, I don't think many of the candidates did themselves much good,
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especially the two who are recognized as the real frontrunners, Mark Carney and Chrystia Freeland
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to a lesser extent. To put it in a nutshell for those of you who don't want to watch a full debate
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breakdown, I would say the best two performing candidates were Frank Bayless and Karina Gould,
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but they're not going to win, so they're really only increasing their support to potentially pass
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it either to Carney or Freeland. And this very much is still a leadership race close enough that
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Freeland could win, and Mark Carney has definitely only been shooting himself in the foot with these
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performances because you don't understand the hype he has on social media and in the legacy media
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when you watch him performing on stage. He's just an accountant, effectively. Just some random accountant
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walked on stage and gave generic liberal coded answers for every question he was asked.
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Anyways, well let's take this thing from top to bottom. I'm not going to show too many clips because
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I don't want any of you to fall asleep while you're driving, but I will be kind of going over what the arc
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of the debate was. But before I get to that, guys, remember to like this video, subscribe to the
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Wyatt, stop telling people to like the video and subscribe. If I don't tell people to subscribe,
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you'd be shocked how few people will subscribe, even on a video that gets like 50,000 views.
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A lot of people are in the zone, they're doing their own thing, so mentioning it does help me get to
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my goal of 100,000 by December. Anyways, okay, let's just start off with a clip of Mark Carney.
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I'll be doing letter grades. I'll roll them out a little bit later in the video when I've given you
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a little bit of evidence for why I would kind of give each person the grade I'm going to give them.
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But let's just start off with a clip of Mark Carney. This is a clip his own campaign uploaded,
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so they think this was a good moment. This was in response to a question about how he would be
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different from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. I'm different in the following respects.
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First, focus on the economy. Laser focus on the economy, and that means good jobs, people's wages
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growing faster than inflation. It means getting prices down. It means building homes. It means
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building a future for this country. Secondly, I'm much more...
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I know, and I apologize ahead of time, guys. I am subjecting you to this, but this is basically
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his entire performance in one clip. He lists a lot of things. He sounds pretend detailed. He is
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...hands-on. Much more of a hands-on person, hands-on manager. I focus on results and getting
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things done. Thirdly, and I've heard this, I'm fortunate to have support in the caucus. I hear
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directly from the supporters about more regular and two-way dialogue with the caucus. I meet with
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my supporters virtually during the course of this leadership campaign to hear their ideas,
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to hear their energy, to hear what's going on, what they're seeing on the ground, to share my
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So I think you understand very quickly here. Mark Carney is a walking, talking,
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beige wall-roomed focus group. The man has nothing but his buzzwords. His team told him to go out there
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and mention the economy a lot, but then sound detailed and thoughtful about it and say, well,
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it's not just the economy. It's about jobs. It's about wages growing faster than inflation. It's about
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love and unity or whatever. We need to be hands-on, not hands-off. We need to have a
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two-way dialogue. I can feel them sending out a questionnaire and two-way dialogue pulled quite
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well as something that metropolitan liberals like to hear. Canadians themselves, do you think a working
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class guy is going to respond well to this? And mark my words, that is the big demographic group that's
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going to cause the liberals to not win. Let's be very clear. Doesn't matter what many of the pollsters
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are saying. I think they're just off. They're not faking it. I think they're just wrong. The conservatives
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are going to win in 2025. And it's because the liberals do not appeal to middle-aged working-class men.
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That is the demographic. They are losing to the conservatives by a margin of like 30 points. The conservatives,
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that middle-class, especially trade school, trade school like plumber type man that, you know,
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between the ages of 25 and 45, the conservatives are winning it by like dictatorship numbers,
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like above 50%. Nothing Mark Carney said there was good at all. And I want to move on to Karina Gould,
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because that absolutely flabby response reminded me a lot of stuff that Karina Gould said.
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A lot of these people, here is just her answering a question. She's very much like Mark Carney.
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She positioned herself as more of like the core lefty of the leadership race. She backs UBI. She
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says, we can't back off the carbon tax. We need more subsidies. We need the government to invest in
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the economy and whatnot. Socialism. But she would engage in the same inane rhetoric that Mark Carney did.
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So like her, her answers on Donald Trump were like, Donald Trump's a big, mean, scary man,
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and we got to stand up strong because he won't respect us unless we stand up and we do it strongly.
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I am parodying her answer, but that was what it was like. Had no examples of what she would do.
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She had nothing really to say about like what assets Canada has that can leverage against the
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United States. This is where Frank Bales did far better. When Frank Bales talked about a topic,
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you could tell he actually worked in business. I still wouldn't vote for any of these people. I'm
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a conservative. I don't like any of them. But if I'm an average voter, I feel like Frank Bales actually
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gave detail that wasn't consultancy detail. Consultant detail is just nice sounding words.
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Frank Bales would say something that might have even ticked off certain people, but you could see
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that another demographic of voters would probably really resonate to it. But here's Karina Gould
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talking and you will quickly notice the tablum. And I pushed Mark on his economic ideas because this
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has to be a debate. Oh, this is actually not from the debate. This is from the press conference
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afterwards, but we'll still listen to this. I think it still has to do with debate.
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It has to be a debate of ideas. The whole point of this liberal leadership race is so that liberals
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have a chance to see who we are as candidates, to make an informed decision about the vision that we
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are putting forward. And this is just a test run for the real debate that's going to come in the
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election. And Pierre Pauliev, Yves-François Blanchet, Jagmeet Singh, they're not going to be nearly as
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nice as I was. I had kid gloves on this morning or this evening. You know, when it comes to the real
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debate, it was very clear to me that last night and tonight, I am the only one of the candidates
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who's ready to take on those opposition leaders tomorrow if needed. That was the funny thing about the
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debate. It was considered, people considered Karina Gould like the attack dog. She really didn't
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hit anyone that hard. She's right. She was using kid gloves, but it's not because she's such a,
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you know, she's so tough and she's really going to take the pure poly of if she's the leader. No, she
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would get steamrolled too. She just happened to be taking slight jabs at other people, but it really
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wasn't much of anything. That was the funny thing. Karina Gould pretends like I was the one
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with ideas up there. Like her ideas are UBI and keeping the carbon tax. And that I guess was her big hit on
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Mark Carney is that he didn't have ideas, which means that he had zero ideas. She had like one
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and a half ideas. I'll grab up a, I need to grab up. I want to grab up a clip of her talking specifically
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about Donald Trump. This is what I mean when I say that she sounds a lot like Mark Carney in the fact
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that she kind of just has vague ideas. Christy Freeland and all this, and I haven't talked about
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her yet because she was also extremely dull and I can't even keep the four of them straight
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based on how terrible the debate was. But her thing was just patriotism projecting. We need to
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be strong Canadians and stand up to the bully Donald Trump and pure poly who's taking pages
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out of Donald Trump's playbook and Donald Trump, Donald Trump, Canadian maple leaves,
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maple syrup. That was basically Christy Freeland. She had no detail, but at least she was being honest
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about the fact that she was just surface level Canadian patriotism projecting and that was it.
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Look, men like Donald Trump have always underestimated leaders like me, but they
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underestimate me and that's their mistake. And I think as Canadians, we know what that's like.
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We know how to stand up for who we are and to stand up to bullies. And that's something that I've
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been doing in the House of Commons for the last decade. I know how to stand up to people like Pierre
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Polyev who, when it comes to Donald Trump, would rather imitate him than stand up for Canada.
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What do you mean by imitate him? Because if any of these people actually named a policy
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that Polyev and Donald Trump share, every Canadian would be like, well, it's probably
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because that just seems like common sense to do. That's the thing. None of these people can actually
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make a substantial attack on Donald Trump past the tariffs because if they were to start
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criticizing a lot of Trump's domestic policy and I can have my own criticisms of some of the things
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that Trump does, I'm not really a big fan of tariffs. I don't even think it's good for the
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American people for them to be tariffing people who aren't national security threats. Sometimes I
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disagree with them on certain foreign policy decisions. But for the most part, the liberals
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can't really name anything because cutting wasteful spending is extremely popular in Canada these days.
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The cutting tax is extremely popular. Going away from climate plans is very popular.
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You know, increasing law enforcement spending is very popular. Like putting back in place
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mandatory minimums is very popular. So Karina Gould is just basically saying, I don't like Donald
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Trump and you guys probably don't like Donald Trump too. And Pierre Polyev is vaguely like him
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because they use similar language about fake news sometimes, which is entirely warranted.
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People who want to take from us what is rightfully ours. We are a proud, sovereign country. And as
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Canadians, we have so much to offer, but also the Americans depend on us. And you can't bring a
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calculator to a knife fight. You have to fight very strongly and with the right tools. And that's
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exactly what I'm going to do as prime minister.
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We got to fight strongly and with the right tools. Thanks, lady. Thanks. I didn't realize that we had
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to fight strongly and with the right tools. I thought we had to sit down, fight weakly,
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and use all the wrong tools. Here's Frank Bayless. And I think his answer on Trump was probably the best
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because he gives substance. Again, I don't even agree exactly with his plan, but he has a specific plan.
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And it's a specific plan you can say yes or no to. And I think a lot of these other campaigns,
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they're thinking, well, I don't want to say anything concrete because someone could disagree
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with me. And this is not just a liberal thing. It's something that happens frequently, even in
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the federal conservatives. Even today, sometimes the federal conservatives are too meek in rolling
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something like just take a hard stance now. Even if people attack you now, take the stance now,
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fight for it, and then change people's minds. Having vague stances that nobody can really disagree with
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also means nobody's really going to run out of their house on election day to vote for it either.
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This is where I agree actually with the more conservative people in the BC Provincial
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Conservative Caucus because they've been doing a really good job taking tough stances that gets
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the NDP really mad, that ticks off the legacy media. But if they stick it out and fight for it,
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they're going to get a big benefit from doing that sort of thing. And I'm specifically talking about
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MLA's like Dallas Brody, Brent Chapman, Heather Ma. A lot of these people have been doing really
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good work. Tara Armstrong taking a tough stance. The media criticizes you, but if you win in the
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long run, you triple your winnings almost. If you don't risk anything, you'll win nothing.
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But here's Frank Bale was talking about Donald Trump.
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So I've negotiated hundreds and hundreds of contracts with Americans over my 40-year career.
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And from time to time, I run into the character of Mr. Trump. So it's not new to me.
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On this point, I published a letter one day before his inauguration, when I said clearly,
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he's not going to put 25% tariffs on everything, but he is going to...
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By the way, I actually do give Frank Bales a lot of credit for that. And I gave him credit when he
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was the first guy to announce his leadership run. He was the only person in this entire race who was
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not dumb enough to think that they were actually going to put 25% tariffs on us.
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I even was predicting, and even I started wavering on my own prediction, that they'll find an excuse
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by the end not to do it. Because dude, that would hurt Trump in the Midwest really hard,
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...attack certain industries. The first one I said he's going to attack is steel.
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It's exactly what he did. I tell you this to tell you that I know how to deal with him.
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And it's important to understand that Mr. Trump is a bully.
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And you do not give one inch to a bully. In that case, we cannot be learning this on the job.
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That's where I come in. I have the experience and the expertise to deal with Donald Trump.
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I can predict what he'll do, and then I can help build our defenses to stop him from doing those
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things, and also counterattack, which unfortunately is going to be necessary.
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This way, I will protect our country, I will protect our economy, I will protect our culture,
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Yeah, so it's still very much just boilerplate rhetoric.
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But I found like he actually moved on and said, I wouldn't meet with Trump. I would maybe send some
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people down to meet for him on my behalf, but I'm not going to subject myself to one of these
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embarrassing moments where he makes me sit outside his office for two hours. I'll put my counter
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tariffs in place, and then I'll sit and wait for him to negotiate with me. Again, not a stupid idea.
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Not a dumb idea. I think that if we just tighten up on border security, and we start spending more
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in the military, Trump's not going to have a reason to tariff us. And if he did anyways,
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he would then look like an idiot, because we did what he wanted, and it still wasn't good enough,
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and his voters would then turn on him. I'm saying this as somebody who actually doesn't mind Trump
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at all. But from the perspective, as Canadians, obviously, we can't say, well, I like Trump from
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a US context, so he should do whatever he wants. We still have to look out for this country first,
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and that's where Pierre Polyev's plan has been the best of lowering taxes, making us hyper-competitive,
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so that it doesn't matter if a tariff us or not, we could actually suck jobs from their economy into
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our economy, because it's easier to do business here. That's why I hate the stupid Canada, you know,
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Team Canada approach that Doug Ford and Justin Trudeau have been pushing forward. By the way,
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if you live in Ontario, please, tomorrow, go and vote for the new blue party of Ontario.
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It doesn't matter if they get a seat or not. Everyone's like, well, they can't win a seat.
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Doug Ford is just fat Trudeau at this point. My friend Daniel Boardman put out a great chart showing that
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right now in Ontario, your options are fat Trudeau, female Trudeau, other female Trudeau,
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and green Trudeau. So if you vote new blue, at least you're indicating, hey, can somebody be
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conservative in this province? And then if none of them do that, then the next time, the next election,
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the next real election, because it's like a province-wide by-election right now in Ontario,
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there might be enough momentum to have new blue get three or four seats. Anyway, so let's move on to
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some of the stuff that Christia Freeland said. And then I want to jump over to some of the hits on
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Mark Carney that came from the Conservatives, because he's just not smooth on his feet at all.
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He's not just boring. He constantly causes himself a lot of injuries by being very inaccurate with how he
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speaks. So we here we have Christia Freeland basically saying that and this is this is the
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most on brand thing she said the entire night of thinking that we need to partner with people who
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have nuclear weapons to protect our Arctic, also implying that we have to defend ourselves militarily
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from the Americans. The US is turning predator. And so what Canada needs to do is work closely with
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our democratic allies, our military allies. I've been foreign minister. I know how to do that.
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That's why I would start with our Nordic partners, specifically Denmark, which is also being threatened,
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and our European NATO allies. I would be sure that France and Britain were there to possess nuclear
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weapons. And I would be working urgently with those partners to build a closer security relationship
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that guarantees our security in a time when the United States can be a threat.
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Yeah, I literally finished off there saying can be a threat. Like, whoa, lady, are you planning on
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fighting the United States? And that's that again, that was her entire performance is that the United
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States is very bad. Donald Trump is very bad. Pure poly of is like Donald Trump, and we need to fight.
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And, you know, maple leaves and maple syrup or whatever. That was her entire thing. She was
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probably the candidate on stage with the least amount of specifics. The candidate with the most
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specifics was probably Frank Bayless, followed behind by Karina Gould, and then Mark Carney. But Mark Carney was
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probably closer to Christia Freeland on the scale of being extremely limited in his details. Again, he would
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give fake details. Like, we need to build an economy, and that economy needs to be made up of workers who have
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two hands and 10 fingers and 10 toes. And we also need AI. We need intelligence. We need industry.
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And he would just kind of keep like saying stuff that didn't mean anything, where at least Frank
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Bayless would specifically talk about, like, specific investments he wants to make or targeted tax cuts,
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or that he actually was the one who said we need to force through a pipeline east and west. And that's at
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least somewhat, you know, unique for a Montrealer to say that he would force Quebec to build a pipeline.
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So neat. So if I'm giving out letter grades, I'll keep talking about the debate after the letter
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grades. If I'm giving out letter grades, I give Carney a C. He is there. He gets a C for Carney. He is
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barely there. I don't notice him. He does himself no favors. The more you watch him, the less you
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understand why there is hype online for him. I never understood in the first place, to be fair.
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So he gets a C. Christy Freeland, honestly, I'd give her like, and I'm talking purely from a liberal
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members context. Who helped themselves in this leadership race, even if they don't have a chance
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of winning? I would give Christy Freeland a B minus. She wasn't specific at all, and that would rub a lot
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of people the wrong way. But for frankly, eastern Canadian, like metropolitan boomers,
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certain ones of them will really like the laid on thick anti-American and anti-poly of rhetoric.
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So that probably bumped her up a little bit. I do think probably Carney lost ground in this debate,
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not because again, he failed. It's just because he was so boring that everyone is rising past him and
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stealing votes just from him being, frankly, extremely dull. I would give, maybe I have to
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give Mark Carney a C minus then. He didn't embarrass himself exactly. He just was barely there. Karina
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Gould probably gets an A minus. She was, again, more specific. He kind of mapped herself out the more
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left-wing vote of the party. The orange liberals that actually Justin Trudeau used in order to win the
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party leadership and then we used to win the 2015 election. Justin Trudeau is actually a very left
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progressive liberal. He is very different from Paul Martin or John Chrétien. He is a social
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progressive first and an economic progressive second. So that's why all his economic policy was
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so bad. Not only was it very left, but it was left with a very strong focus first on social issues
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before actual economic outcomes. And that's what Karina Gould is doing with her, you know,
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championing of the carbon tax and with her championing of universal basic income and more
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green investments in boondoggles. She is the pure continuation of Justin Trudeau. Obviously, Mark Carney
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is the guy who has team Trudeau behind him, but in terms of who is trying to do the closest Trudeau impression
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is Gould and then followed by Carney simply through the fact that he is literally explicitly stating
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that he will mostly continue Trudeau era policies minus, you know, we need to focus more on the
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economy. We need to laser focus on the economy, which means nothing. But yeah, he wants to keep
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universal dental and all these other things going, but he's going to cut taxes. He's not. All these people
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only also talk about cutting middle class taxes. It's very easy to cut middle class taxes because
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as a middle class person myself, we don't pay that much taxes. So if you reduce middle class
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people's taxes by a bit, a lot of people like you at the same time, you didn't hurt your revenues too
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much. Our revenues should be hurt on the federal level at this point because we spend way too much
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money. The federal budget should probably contract by a full 25% at this point. But only I think it was
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only Frank Bayless who actually talked about cutting like corporate taxes, which is smart. Good. Good
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on them. They should cut corporate taxes. You should cut people who make more and business taxes because
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those people actually pay the most and everyone has to buy goods from them and services. So if you cut
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a corporate taxes, that is actually a bigger tax cut for middle class people than directly cutting
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middle class taxes by even one or 2%. Anyways, so Karina Gould, A minus, I would give Frank Bayless
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an A plus because he's only at like 3% in this leadership race right now. I guarantee he might
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finish like 8% or even 12% because he's been a big figure in these debates. When you actually look
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at the polling in terms of Google Trends, who were people looking up during the debate,
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he was doing quite well. I know some people will say, well, that's just because not a lot of people
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even knew him in the first place. Yeah. But the problem is I remember Scott Aitchison running in the
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2022 federal conservative election. You guys probably don't remember him. I barely remember him. He's the
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housing critic right now for the conservatives, but he never really spiked in the leadership debates
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because he kind of put forward a very standard red Tory performance that didn't make anyone
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interested in looking him up. Bayless did. This was the search results during the actual debate.
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He was 41% of the searches. Chrystia Freeland was only nine because a lot of people already knew who
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she is and nothing that she was saying really prompted further investigation. She hates Americans.
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She's a boilerplate liberal. She's going to tell you that she's been finance minister for a while,
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and that's why she deserves something or whatever. Carney got 23% and Karina Gould,
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as the other kind of breakout star of the debate, got 27%. But Bayless decisively became the attention
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getter of the campaign and could turn himself into the real kingmaker if, you know, Freeland and Carney
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end up getting into that high 30% or lower 40% range. He could throw them all of his second place
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votes and one of them could get across the finish line. I, again, hope they all lose because I don't
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like the liberals at all, but I am attempting to be neutral. Anyways, before I move on to the big flub
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of the night of Mark Carney, I want to, uh, like I want to, I want to talk about, uh, before I talk
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about like Carney, I want to talk about Carney's flops. Now I want to talk about the reaction that
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a lot of liberal cheerleaders on the line had to this debate, because I think that it was telling
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how liberals were trying to spin this debate as a good thing. I thought this debate made them look
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bad. Even if certain candidates made themselves look good by comparison to others, the debate overall
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demonstrated that nobody has any new ideas in the liberal party and nobody really is going to be a
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big departure from Trudeau. In the question that they were asked about, how are you going to be
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different from Trudeau? Basically all of them would just say, I'm going to listen to people more and
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focus on the economy. That was it. Here is a clip actually that conservative MP for Toronto St. Paul,
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Don Stewart posted to social media saying it was an own goal for Mark Carney. And no doubt,
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alongside all the other radical statements that Carney has said in the past stuff like this could
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be easily turned into an anti Mark Carney like advertisement. I want to be clear and Canadians feel
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this. I want to be clear about the quote strength of our economy. Our economy over the last five years
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has been driven by a big increase in the labor force, which was largely because of a surge in immigration.
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It is now trying to be controlled. And by government spending that grew over nine percent year after
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year after year, twice the rate of growth of our economy. Okay, so our economy was weak before we got
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to the point of these threats from President Trump. I don't need to play the rest of that for you.
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Don Stewart said in his post that this was the biggest own goal of the night. And that is absolutely
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correct. Mark Carney is trying to sound statesmanly, I could admit to some mistakes that the government
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has made. But he doesn't mention the fact that he was the guy who was advising Trudeau on economic
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policy for the last five years. And there's no indication that Mark Carney was not being listened to.
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If anything, and this has been leaked by Freeland staff in Parliament, that she was basically being
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forced to implement every stupid idea that Mark Carney had. Now, let's be clear that Christian
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Freeland didn't have better ideas than Mark Carney, probably. But every bad consequence over the
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last five years that Canadians have had to suffer through is because of Mr. Mark Carney. He's just
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economically incompetent. People point to him and say, well, he did well under Harper and Flaherty.
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Yeah, because Harper and Flaherty were telling him what to do. In 2008, do you think Mark Carney
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was calling his own shots? Not a chance. It was earlier in his career. And he is previously
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starting to leave his more economically, slightly more conservative roots when he was working for
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Paul Martin as deputy finance minister, and like, you know, actually engaging in some fiscal,
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you know, restraint. But that was when he was under other people's leadership, and they were telling
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him what to do. Once he left as the governor of the Bank of Canada, and he became the governor of the
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Bank of England, and he's been working for his own companies and engaging with the World Economic
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Forum and the UN, he has gone extremely Keynesian. I was talking to a conservative organizer the other
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night who's reading Carney's book, and he says that he does name check Karl Marx in his book. This is why
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I call Mark Carney, Marx Carney, because when you look at the guy's policies, he is left left. I actually
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I'm very unclear if he even disagrees with Karina Gould on anything, or if he is just less willing
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to say what she's willing to say out loud, but he would totally do it if he got in. And I think that's
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probably true. But I'm just talking about in this debate how they're presenting themselves. But yeah,
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that is going to be an easy advertisement for the conservatives in this next election. Here is another
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clip that Melissa Lansman had posted. It's just nine seconds. Melissa Lansman is the conservative
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MP for Thornhill. And this is Mark Carney. Not what he probably directly means, but this guy's a flub
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machine on the debate stage, kind of accidentally talking down Canadians by being deeply inaccurate
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with his language. Mark Carney. Okay. One of the reasons why families have a hard time to afford
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their groceries is because we haven't had productivity. That's the issue. And everyone's
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trying to say, well, that's not what he means. He means the economy overall has not been productive.
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The problem is, is that the blame is not on the Canadian economy, it's on the Canadian government.
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And yeah, he kind of gave that lip service in the previous clip that government spending has been
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outpacing the growth of the economy. And most of our growth is only coming from labor. But at the
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same time, he talks about this as if he's now the man with the secret sauce to tell us how we can be
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more productive. He's the one who's going to pass the right policies to make it all better. And he's
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just not. He doesn't know what he's doing. He doesn't know he's doing proven by the last five years.
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And I don't think that Canadians want this kind of elitist technocrat as their prime minister,
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a man who thinks he fundamentally knows how to do your job better than you can, even though he's
00:30:22.260
never actually run a small business or he's never started a business. He's simply been on boards and
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been an advisor on companies that were probably going to succeed whether he was there or not.
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Anyways, so the last thing I want to cover here today was the real, the weird kind of
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response that this debate got from liberals online. Here is Carol McNeil, who is a former
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CBC broadcaster, and she actually ran this post as an advertisement on X. She said,
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I'm quite enjoying the liberal debate. Everyone comes across as serious minded and thinking about
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how to make this country better. They're not at each other's throats. I like it. Who cares?
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Who actually cares that they're not at each other's throats? If anything, they should have been.
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Because a lot of those people on stage, three out of four of them, minus Bayless,
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although Bayless is also corrupt. He was involved in all the ventilator scams during COVID,
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that all these people should have been going after each other for having bad records in the government.
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And the fact that they won't proves that they're not serious about fixing the problems.
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Here's another one from another liberal account online, and these have gotten substantial likes
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from liberals themselves. Kimbo here says, well, great debate. I thank Christian Freeland for
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constantly reminding us about how wrong Paul Pierre is for the role of prime minister. Everyone was
00:31:50.900
aware Carney would give it his all in the French debate. He did well. No, he didn't. This actually
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was for the French debate though, but same difference. Both debates were horrifyingly awful and dull.
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Nothing said changed my mind. I still believe Mark Carney is the best choice 2025 Canada. I don't know
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why this has such weird spacing, but what did Carney actually do in any of these debates that made you
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feel confident at all? He's just an AI. Mark Carney, when he talks, makes me feel like he's a background
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character in a film, and they just needed him to have some sort of technical sounding dialogue,
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but they didn't want to try too hard on it. Here is Dr. Matthew S. Johnson, everyone's favorite
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actual paid liberal shill. He says, Justin Trudeau has been sprinkled into the finish as a Canadian.
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I appreciate that. That has nothing to do with the debate, but I just found that hilariously out of
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touch. But he says here about the debate last night, I like Karina's emphasis on affordability by
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improving the social safety net, but improving the economy through less drastic measures isn't such a
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terrible idea either, as she criticized Mark Carney and Christia for, and she would need to account
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for that as PM in a Trump era. Okay, well, I like how he's both saying, I like her ideas, but I also
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like other ideas too, because this man is paid to not have any ideas past the fact that liberal's good
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and whoever wins is good. Here is him trying to hype up all this, you know, policy talk, this substantial
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policy talk that was going on. Not just push money out the door, like quote, that was a quote from
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Carney, a quote from Carney on defense spending, not just being about arbitrary targets. Freeland responds
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that reaching 2027 target is a matter of will. Carney tighter approach to fiscal management, I think,
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is what appeals to a lot of Canadians post Trudeau. And then he says, this is an intelligent debate.
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No, it is not. None of these people, other than Frank Bayless, actually gave detail. And even then,
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Frank Bayless, you could say, was wrong on his actual prescriptions for what the economy needs.
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There are so many liberals posting about how it was so great it was unified. It's not actually great.
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It proves that they haven't learned a thing since Justin Trudeau announced that he'd be stepping down.
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All of them show that they are a marginally different person than Justin Trudeau. And the
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Canadian economy is, in fact, broken. They can say that that's unpatriotic to say it's a fact.
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And if you're not willing to acknowledge that fact and actually give a full fat reform policy,
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then you're not useful to anybody in Canada. But anyways, so that should be it. To recap,
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I'd probably give Frank Bayless for the fact that he actually got a lot of attention these last two
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debates, an A+. Karina Gould probably mapped out the most distinct portion of the liberals to vote
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for. The core left, she gets an A-, I think that Chrystia Freeland, from the perspective of the very
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strong anti-American vote in the leadership race, probably gets an A-, and Carney was barely there,
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so he gets a C-, that was this liberal leadership debate. Like, share, and subscribe for this video,
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because that was painful to watch. And I'll see you guys all next time.