The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - February 26, 2025


Liberal debate was AWFUL and proves Conservatives will win in 2025!


Episode Stats

Length

35 minutes

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179.94022

Word Count

6,321

Sentence Count

407

Misogynist Sentences

12

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary

Wyatt Claypool breaks down the Liberal leadership debate and gives his thoughts on each of the four candidates, Frank Bayless, Mark Carney, Karina Gould, and Chrystia Freeland. He also gives his letter grades for each of them.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here. So I just got finished watching the crushingly long two-hour
00:00:07.900 English Liberal Party leadership debate, and my goodness, this thing was very on-brand for
00:00:14.300 the Liberals these days. It was both awful and extremely dull. We had four candidates there,
00:00:21.500 Frank Bayless, Mark Carney, Karina Gould, and Chrystia Freeland, and they pretty much all did
00:00:28.420 bad from a conservative's perspective like myself. But when even considering what a Liberal would
00:00:34.460 think about this debate, I don't think many of the candidates did themselves much good,
00:00:39.140 especially the two who are recognized as the real frontrunners, Mark Carney and Chrystia Freeland
00:00:45.740 to a lesser extent. To put it in a nutshell for those of you who don't want to watch a full debate
00:00:52.020 breakdown, I would say the best two performing candidates were Frank Bayless and Karina Gould,
00:00:57.600 but they're not going to win, so they're really only increasing their support to potentially pass
00:01:02.800 it either to Carney or Freeland. And this very much is still a leadership race close enough that
00:01:08.060 Freeland could win, and Mark Carney has definitely only been shooting himself in the foot with these
00:01:14.440 performances because you don't understand the hype he has on social media and in the legacy media
00:01:21.140 when you watch him performing on stage. He's just an accountant, effectively. Just some random accountant
00:01:28.980 walked on stage and gave generic liberal coded answers for every question he was asked.
00:01:36.120 Anyways, well let's take this thing from top to bottom. I'm not going to show too many clips because
00:01:41.800 I don't want any of you to fall asleep while you're driving, but I will be kind of going over what the arc
00:01:47.720 of the debate was. But before I get to that, guys, remember to like this video, subscribe to the
00:01:53.680 channel, leave a comment because it really helps me in the algorithm. I've had some people complain,
00:01:58.800 Wyatt, stop telling people to like the video and subscribe. If I don't tell people to subscribe,
00:02:03.260 you'd be shocked how few people will subscribe, even on a video that gets like 50,000 views.
00:02:08.800 A lot of people are in the zone, they're doing their own thing, so mentioning it does help me get to
00:02:13.780 my goal of 100,000 by December. Anyways, okay, let's just start off with a clip of Mark Carney.
00:02:22.620 I'll be doing letter grades. I'll roll them out a little bit later in the video when I've given you
00:02:28.400 a little bit of evidence for why I would kind of give each person the grade I'm going to give them.
00:02:33.840 But let's just start off with a clip of Mark Carney. This is a clip his own campaign uploaded,
00:02:39.120 so they think this was a good moment. This was in response to a question about how he would be
00:02:45.120 different from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. I'm different in the following respects.
00:02:52.360 First, focus on the economy. Laser focus on the economy, and that means good jobs, people's wages
00:02:59.880 growing faster than inflation. It means getting prices down. It means building homes. It means
00:03:05.540 building a future for this country. Secondly, I'm much more...
00:03:09.540 I know, and I apologize ahead of time, guys. I am subjecting you to this, but this is basically
00:03:15.700 his entire performance in one clip. He lists a lot of things. He sounds pretend detailed. He is
00:03:23.200 pretend competent.
00:03:25.420 ...hands-on. Much more of a hands-on person, hands-on manager. I focus on results and getting
00:03:31.460 things done. Thirdly, and I've heard this, I'm fortunate to have support in the caucus. I hear
00:03:37.940 directly from the supporters about more regular and two-way dialogue with the caucus. I meet with
00:03:45.540 my supporters virtually during the course of this leadership campaign to hear their ideas,
00:03:51.540 to hear their energy, to hear what's going on, what they're seeing on the ground, to share my
00:03:55.380 perspectives in order to move forward.
00:03:57.860 So I think you understand very quickly here. Mark Carney is a walking, talking,
00:04:04.740 beige wall-roomed focus group. The man has nothing but his buzzwords. His team told him to go out there
00:04:11.860 and mention the economy a lot, but then sound detailed and thoughtful about it and say, well,
00:04:16.820 it's not just the economy. It's about jobs. It's about wages growing faster than inflation. It's about
00:04:22.180 love and unity or whatever. We need to be hands-on, not hands-off. We need to have a
00:04:28.740 two-way dialogue. I can feel them sending out a questionnaire and two-way dialogue pulled quite
00:04:35.780 well as something that metropolitan liberals like to hear. Canadians themselves, do you think a working
00:04:42.580 class guy is going to respond well to this? And mark my words, that is the big demographic group that's
00:04:50.580 going to cause the liberals to not win. Let's be very clear. Doesn't matter what many of the pollsters
00:04:56.660 are saying. I think they're just off. They're not faking it. I think they're just wrong. The conservatives
00:05:01.460 are going to win in 2025. And it's because the liberals do not appeal to middle-aged working-class men.
00:05:08.980 That is the demographic. They are losing to the conservatives by a margin of like 30 points. The conservatives,
00:05:16.020 that middle-class, especially trade school, trade school like plumber type man that, you know,
00:05:22.660 between the ages of 25 and 45, the conservatives are winning it by like dictatorship numbers,
00:05:28.340 like above 50%. Nothing Mark Carney said there was good at all. And I want to move on to Karina Gould,
00:05:34.820 because that absolutely flabby response reminded me a lot of stuff that Karina Gould said.
00:05:40.500 A lot of these people, here is just her answering a question. She's very much like Mark Carney.
00:05:49.460 She positioned herself as more of like the core lefty of the leadership race. She backs UBI. She
00:05:56.100 says, we can't back off the carbon tax. We need more subsidies. We need the government to invest in
00:06:01.220 the economy and whatnot. Socialism. But she would engage in the same inane rhetoric that Mark Carney did.
00:06:08.900 So like her, her answers on Donald Trump were like, Donald Trump's a big, mean, scary man,
00:06:17.780 and we got to stand up strong because he won't respect us unless we stand up and we do it strongly.
00:06:24.500 I am parodying her answer, but that was what it was like. Had no examples of what she would do.
00:06:30.340 She had nothing really to say about like what assets Canada has that can leverage against the
00:06:37.300 United States. This is where Frank Bales did far better. When Frank Bales talked about a topic,
00:06:42.020 you could tell he actually worked in business. I still wouldn't vote for any of these people. I'm
00:06:45.780 a conservative. I don't like any of them. But if I'm an average voter, I feel like Frank Bales actually
00:06:52.100 gave detail that wasn't consultancy detail. Consultant detail is just nice sounding words.
00:06:59.140 Frank Bales would say something that might have even ticked off certain people, but you could see
00:07:04.020 that another demographic of voters would probably really resonate to it. But here's Karina Gould
00:07:08.660 talking and you will quickly notice the tablum. And I pushed Mark on his economic ideas because this
00:07:16.020 has to be a debate. Oh, this is actually not from the debate. This is from the press conference
00:07:22.260 afterwards, but we'll still listen to this. I think it still has to do with debate.
00:07:25.300 It has to be a debate of ideas. The whole point of this liberal leadership race is so that liberals
00:07:31.380 have a chance to see who we are as candidates, to make an informed decision about the vision that we
00:07:38.100 are putting forward. And this is just a test run for the real debate that's going to come in the
00:07:43.780 election. And Pierre Pauliev, Yves-François Blanchet, Jagmeet Singh, they're not going to be nearly as
00:07:49.460 nice as I was. I had kid gloves on this morning or this evening. You know, when it comes to the real
00:07:54.900 debate, it was very clear to me that last night and tonight, I am the only one of the candidates
00:08:00.900 who's ready to take on those opposition leaders tomorrow if needed. That was the funny thing about the
00:08:06.740 debate. It was considered, people considered Karina Gould like the attack dog. She really didn't
00:08:13.620 hit anyone that hard. She's right. She was using kid gloves, but it's not because she's such a,
00:08:19.540 you know, she's so tough and she's really going to take the pure poly of if she's the leader. No, she
00:08:24.740 would get steamrolled too. She just happened to be taking slight jabs at other people, but it really
00:08:30.580 wasn't much of anything. That was the funny thing. Karina Gould pretends like I was the one
00:08:34.660 with ideas up there. Like her ideas are UBI and keeping the carbon tax. And that I guess was her big hit on
00:08:40.420 Mark Carney is that he didn't have ideas, which means that he had zero ideas. She had like one
00:08:45.380 and a half ideas. I'll grab up a, I need to grab up. I want to grab up a clip of her talking specifically
00:08:52.580 about Donald Trump. This is what I mean when I say that she sounds a lot like Mark Carney in the fact
00:08:58.820 that she kind of just has vague ideas. Christy Freeland and all this, and I haven't talked about
00:09:03.220 her yet because she was also extremely dull and I can't even keep the four of them straight
00:09:07.860 based on how terrible the debate was. But her thing was just patriotism projecting. We need to
00:09:13.540 be strong Canadians and stand up to the bully Donald Trump and pure poly who's taking pages
00:09:18.020 out of Donald Trump's playbook and Donald Trump, Donald Trump, Canadian maple leaves,
00:09:21.780 maple syrup. That was basically Christy Freeland. She had no detail, but at least she was being honest
00:09:27.860 about the fact that she was just surface level Canadian patriotism projecting and that was it.
00:09:33.140 Look, men like Donald Trump have always underestimated leaders like me, but they
00:09:39.300 underestimate me and that's their mistake. And I think as Canadians, we know what that's like.
00:09:45.380 We know how to stand up for who we are and to stand up to bullies. And that's something that I've
00:09:50.420 been doing in the House of Commons for the last decade. I know how to stand up to people like Pierre
00:09:55.300 Polyev who, when it comes to Donald Trump, would rather imitate him than stand up for Canada.
00:10:01.380 I know how to stand up to me.
00:10:03.060 What do you mean by imitate him? Because if any of these people actually named a policy
00:10:06.820 that Polyev and Donald Trump share, every Canadian would be like, well, it's probably
00:10:10.740 because that just seems like common sense to do. That's the thing. None of these people can actually
00:10:14.980 make a substantial attack on Donald Trump past the tariffs because if they were to start
00:10:20.820 criticizing a lot of Trump's domestic policy and I can have my own criticisms of some of the things
00:10:25.780 that Trump does, I'm not really a big fan of tariffs. I don't even think it's good for the
00:10:29.940 American people for them to be tariffing people who aren't national security threats. Sometimes I
00:10:34.340 disagree with them on certain foreign policy decisions. But for the most part, the liberals
00:10:39.060 can't really name anything because cutting wasteful spending is extremely popular in Canada these days.
00:10:44.420 The cutting tax is extremely popular. Going away from climate plans is very popular.
00:10:50.260 You know, increasing law enforcement spending is very popular. Like putting back in place
00:10:55.540 mandatory minimums is very popular. So Karina Gould is just basically saying, I don't like Donald
00:11:00.500 Trump and you guys probably don't like Donald Trump too. And Pierre Polyev is vaguely like him
00:11:05.220 because they use similar language about fake news sometimes, which is entirely warranted.
00:11:10.660 People who want to take from us what is rightfully ours. We are a proud, sovereign country. And as
00:11:17.460 Canadians, we have so much to offer, but also the Americans depend on us. And you can't bring a
00:11:23.460 calculator to a knife fight. You have to fight very strongly and with the right tools. And that's
00:11:29.460 exactly what I'm going to do as prime minister.
00:11:31.780 We got to fight strongly and with the right tools. Thanks, lady. Thanks. I didn't realize that we had
00:11:38.260 to fight strongly and with the right tools. I thought we had to sit down, fight weakly,
00:11:43.540 and use all the wrong tools. Here's Frank Bayless. And I think his answer on Trump was probably the best
00:11:50.500 because he gives substance. Again, I don't even agree exactly with his plan, but he has a specific plan.
00:11:57.220 And it's a specific plan you can say yes or no to. And I think a lot of these other campaigns,
00:12:01.940 they're thinking, well, I don't want to say anything concrete because someone could disagree
00:12:05.860 with me. And this is not just a liberal thing. It's something that happens frequently, even in
00:12:10.100 the federal conservatives. Even today, sometimes the federal conservatives are too meek in rolling
00:12:15.220 something like just take a hard stance now. Even if people attack you now, take the stance now,
00:12:21.060 fight for it, and then change people's minds. Having vague stances that nobody can really disagree with
00:12:26.740 also means nobody's really going to run out of their house on election day to vote for it either.
00:12:31.380 This is where I agree actually with the more conservative people in the BC Provincial
00:12:37.620 Conservative Caucus because they've been doing a really good job taking tough stances that gets
00:12:42.500 the NDP really mad, that ticks off the legacy media. But if they stick it out and fight for it,
00:12:47.940 they're going to get a big benefit from doing that sort of thing. And I'm specifically talking about
00:12:53.140 MLA's like Dallas Brody, Brent Chapman, Heather Ma. A lot of these people have been doing really
00:13:00.580 good work. Tara Armstrong taking a tough stance. The media criticizes you, but if you win in the
00:13:05.940 long run, you triple your winnings almost. If you don't risk anything, you'll win nothing.
00:13:13.140 But here's Frank Bale was talking about Donald Trump.
00:13:15.780 So I've negotiated hundreds and hundreds of contracts with Americans over my 40-year career.
00:13:20.980 And from time to time, I run into the character of Mr. Trump. So it's not new to me.
00:13:25.620 On this point, I published a letter one day before his inauguration, when I said clearly,
00:13:30.740 he's not going to put 25% tariffs on everything, but he is going to...
00:13:34.420 By the way, I actually do give Frank Bales a lot of credit for that. And I gave him credit when he
00:13:38.260 was the first guy to announce his leadership run. He was the only person in this entire race who was
00:13:43.860 not dumb enough to think that they were actually going to put 25% tariffs on us.
00:13:48.260 I even was predicting, and even I started wavering on my own prediction, that they'll find an excuse
00:13:53.220 by the end not to do it. Because dude, that would hurt Trump in the Midwest really hard,
00:13:57.860 where they rely on a lot of Canadian imports.
00:14:00.180 ...attack certain industries. The first one I said he's going to attack is steel.
00:14:04.420 It's exactly what he did. I tell you this to tell you that I know how to deal with him.
00:14:09.220 And it's important to understand that Mr. Trump is a bully.
00:14:12.100 And you do not give one inch to a bully. In that case, we cannot be learning this on the job.
00:14:19.620 That's where I come in. I have the experience and the expertise to deal with Donald Trump.
00:14:24.660 I can predict what he'll do, and then I can help build our defenses to stop him from doing those
00:14:30.580 things, and also counterattack, which unfortunately is going to be necessary.
00:14:35.300 This way, I will protect our country, I will protect our economy, I will protect our culture,
00:14:40.740 and I will protect our sovereignty.
00:14:44.100 Yeah, so it's still very much just boilerplate rhetoric.
00:14:48.580 But I found like he actually moved on and said, I wouldn't meet with Trump. I would maybe send some
00:14:52.740 people down to meet for him on my behalf, but I'm not going to subject myself to one of these
00:14:58.260 embarrassing moments where he makes me sit outside his office for two hours. I'll put my counter
00:15:03.780 tariffs in place, and then I'll sit and wait for him to negotiate with me. Again, not a stupid idea.
00:15:10.180 Not a dumb idea. I think that if we just tighten up on border security, and we start spending more
00:15:15.380 in the military, Trump's not going to have a reason to tariff us. And if he did anyways,
00:15:19.380 he would then look like an idiot, because we did what he wanted, and it still wasn't good enough,
00:15:23.460 and his voters would then turn on him. I'm saying this as somebody who actually doesn't mind Trump
00:15:27.380 at all. But from the perspective, as Canadians, obviously, we can't say, well, I like Trump from
00:15:33.060 a US context, so he should do whatever he wants. We still have to look out for this country first,
00:15:37.940 and that's where Pierre Polyev's plan has been the best of lowering taxes, making us hyper-competitive,
00:15:43.860 so that it doesn't matter if a tariff us or not, we could actually suck jobs from their economy into
00:15:48.420 our economy, because it's easier to do business here. That's why I hate the stupid Canada, you know,
00:15:53.540 Team Canada approach that Doug Ford and Justin Trudeau have been pushing forward. By the way,
00:15:59.380 if you live in Ontario, please, tomorrow, go and vote for the new blue party of Ontario.
00:16:04.500 It doesn't matter if they get a seat or not. Everyone's like, well, they can't win a seat.
00:16:08.580 Doug Ford is just fat Trudeau at this point. My friend Daniel Boardman put out a great chart showing that
00:16:13.860 right now in Ontario, your options are fat Trudeau, female Trudeau, other female Trudeau,
00:16:21.460 and green Trudeau. So if you vote new blue, at least you're indicating, hey, can somebody be
00:16:26.420 conservative in this province? And then if none of them do that, then the next time, the next election,
00:16:31.780 the next real election, because it's like a province-wide by-election right now in Ontario,
00:16:37.140 there might be enough momentum to have new blue get three or four seats. Anyway, so let's move on to
00:16:43.860 some of the stuff that Christia Freeland said. And then I want to jump over to some of the hits on
00:16:50.100 Mark Carney that came from the Conservatives, because he's just not smooth on his feet at all.
00:16:55.540 He's not just boring. He constantly causes himself a lot of injuries by being very inaccurate with how he
00:17:02.500 speaks. So we here we have Christia Freeland basically saying that and this is this is the
00:17:11.380 most on brand thing she said the entire night of thinking that we need to partner with people who
00:17:16.900 have nuclear weapons to protect our Arctic, also implying that we have to defend ourselves militarily
00:17:22.180 from the Americans. The US is turning predator. And so what Canada needs to do is work closely with
00:17:29.460 our democratic allies, our military allies. I've been foreign minister. I know how to do that.
00:17:35.540 That's why I would start with our Nordic partners, specifically Denmark, which is also being threatened,
00:17:41.220 and our European NATO allies. I would be sure that France and Britain were there to possess nuclear
00:17:47.780 weapons. And I would be working urgently with those partners to build a closer security relationship
00:17:54.900 that guarantees our security in a time when the United States can be a threat.
00:18:00.980 Yeah, I literally finished off there saying can be a threat. Like, whoa, lady, are you planning on
00:18:07.060 fighting the United States? And that's that again, that was her entire performance is that the United
00:18:13.060 States is very bad. Donald Trump is very bad. Pure poly of is like Donald Trump, and we need to fight.
00:18:18.660 And, you know, maple leaves and maple syrup or whatever. That was her entire thing. She was
00:18:24.100 probably the candidate on stage with the least amount of specifics. The candidate with the most
00:18:28.420 specifics was probably Frank Bayless, followed behind by Karina Gould, and then Mark Carney. But Mark Carney was
00:18:34.580 probably closer to Christia Freeland on the scale of being extremely limited in his details. Again, he would
00:18:41.620 give fake details. Like, we need to build an economy, and that economy needs to be made up of workers who have
00:18:47.860 two hands and 10 fingers and 10 toes. And we also need AI. We need intelligence. We need industry.
00:18:55.540 And he would just kind of keep like saying stuff that didn't mean anything, where at least Frank
00:18:59.700 Bayless would specifically talk about, like, specific investments he wants to make or targeted tax cuts,
00:19:06.020 or that he actually was the one who said we need to force through a pipeline east and west. And that's at
00:19:11.860 least somewhat, you know, unique for a Montrealer to say that he would force Quebec to build a pipeline.
00:19:18.740 So neat. So if I'm giving out letter grades, I'll keep talking about the debate after the letter
00:19:23.780 grades. If I'm giving out letter grades, I give Carney a C. He is there. He gets a C for Carney. He is
00:19:32.260 barely there. I don't notice him. He does himself no favors. The more you watch him, the less you
00:19:37.220 understand why there is hype online for him. I never understood in the first place, to be fair.
00:19:42.580 So he gets a C. Christy Freeland, honestly, I'd give her like, and I'm talking purely from a liberal
00:19:50.900 members context. Who helped themselves in this leadership race, even if they don't have a chance
00:19:56.980 of winning? I would give Christy Freeland a B minus. She wasn't specific at all, and that would rub a lot
00:20:03.700 of people the wrong way. But for frankly, eastern Canadian, like metropolitan boomers,
00:20:12.260 certain ones of them will really like the laid on thick anti-American and anti-poly of rhetoric.
00:20:18.660 So that probably bumped her up a little bit. I do think probably Carney lost ground in this debate,
00:20:24.420 not because again, he failed. It's just because he was so boring that everyone is rising past him and
00:20:28.740 stealing votes just from him being, frankly, extremely dull. I would give, maybe I have to
00:20:35.300 give Mark Carney a C minus then. He didn't embarrass himself exactly. He just was barely there. Karina
00:20:41.700 Gould probably gets an A minus. She was, again, more specific. He kind of mapped herself out the more
00:20:50.340 left-wing vote of the party. The orange liberals that actually Justin Trudeau used in order to win the
00:20:57.300 party leadership and then we used to win the 2015 election. Justin Trudeau is actually a very left
00:21:02.900 progressive liberal. He is very different from Paul Martin or John Chrétien. He is a social
00:21:09.140 progressive first and an economic progressive second. So that's why all his economic policy was
00:21:15.700 so bad. Not only was it very left, but it was left with a very strong focus first on social issues
00:21:22.820 before actual economic outcomes. And that's what Karina Gould is doing with her, you know,
00:21:29.140 championing of the carbon tax and with her championing of universal basic income and more
00:21:35.540 green investments in boondoggles. She is the pure continuation of Justin Trudeau. Obviously, Mark Carney
00:21:41.860 is the guy who has team Trudeau behind him, but in terms of who is trying to do the closest Trudeau impression
00:21:47.940 is Gould and then followed by Carney simply through the fact that he is literally explicitly stating
00:21:55.780 that he will mostly continue Trudeau era policies minus, you know, we need to focus more on the
00:22:01.220 economy. We need to laser focus on the economy, which means nothing. But yeah, he wants to keep
00:22:06.500 universal dental and all these other things going, but he's going to cut taxes. He's not. All these people
00:22:12.420 only also talk about cutting middle class taxes. It's very easy to cut middle class taxes because
00:22:18.020 as a middle class person myself, we don't pay that much taxes. So if you reduce middle class
00:22:23.060 people's taxes by a bit, a lot of people like you at the same time, you didn't hurt your revenues too
00:22:27.220 much. Our revenues should be hurt on the federal level at this point because we spend way too much
00:22:32.180 money. The federal budget should probably contract by a full 25% at this point. But only I think it was
00:22:39.380 only Frank Bayless who actually talked about cutting like corporate taxes, which is smart. Good. Good
00:22:43.620 on them. They should cut corporate taxes. You should cut people who make more and business taxes because
00:22:49.460 those people actually pay the most and everyone has to buy goods from them and services. So if you cut
00:22:55.940 a corporate taxes, that is actually a bigger tax cut for middle class people than directly cutting
00:23:01.860 middle class taxes by even one or 2%. Anyways, so Karina Gould, A minus, I would give Frank Bayless
00:23:12.100 an A plus because he's only at like 3% in this leadership race right now. I guarantee he might
00:23:19.300 finish like 8% or even 12% because he's been a big figure in these debates. When you actually look
00:23:26.900 at the polling in terms of Google Trends, who were people looking up during the debate,
00:23:31.700 he was doing quite well. I know some people will say, well, that's just because not a lot of people
00:23:35.620 even knew him in the first place. Yeah. But the problem is I remember Scott Aitchison running in the
00:23:41.300 2022 federal conservative election. You guys probably don't remember him. I barely remember him. He's the
00:23:48.260 housing critic right now for the conservatives, but he never really spiked in the leadership debates
00:23:53.380 because he kind of put forward a very standard red Tory performance that didn't make anyone
00:23:58.420 interested in looking him up. Bayless did. This was the search results during the actual debate.
00:24:06.420 He was 41% of the searches. Chrystia Freeland was only nine because a lot of people already knew who
00:24:12.420 she is and nothing that she was saying really prompted further investigation. She hates Americans.
00:24:18.740 She's a boilerplate liberal. She's going to tell you that she's been finance minister for a while,
00:24:23.300 and that's why she deserves something or whatever. Carney got 23% and Karina Gould,
00:24:29.300 as the other kind of breakout star of the debate, got 27%. But Bayless decisively became the attention
00:24:36.900 getter of the campaign and could turn himself into the real kingmaker if, you know, Freeland and Carney
00:24:44.500 end up getting into that high 30% or lower 40% range. He could throw them all of his second place
00:24:50.340 votes and one of them could get across the finish line. I, again, hope they all lose because I don't
00:24:56.740 like the liberals at all, but I am attempting to be neutral. Anyways, before I move on to the big flub
00:25:03.220 of the night of Mark Carney, I want to, uh, like I want to, I want to talk about, uh, before I talk
00:25:12.260 about like Carney, I want to talk about Carney's flops. Now I want to talk about the reaction that
00:25:15.620 a lot of liberal cheerleaders on the line had to this debate, because I think that it was telling
00:25:22.100 how liberals were trying to spin this debate as a good thing. I thought this debate made them look
00:25:26.020 bad. Even if certain candidates made themselves look good by comparison to others, the debate overall
00:25:31.460 demonstrated that nobody has any new ideas in the liberal party and nobody really is going to be a
00:25:37.380 big departure from Trudeau. In the question that they were asked about, how are you going to be
00:25:40.820 different from Trudeau? Basically all of them would just say, I'm going to listen to people more and
00:25:44.740 focus on the economy. That was it. Here is a clip actually that conservative MP for Toronto St. Paul,
00:25:51.620 Don Stewart posted to social media saying it was an own goal for Mark Carney. And no doubt,
00:25:57.780 alongside all the other radical statements that Carney has said in the past stuff like this could
00:26:02.180 be easily turned into an anti Mark Carney like advertisement. I want to be clear and Canadians feel
00:26:11.700 this. I want to be clear about the quote strength of our economy. Our economy over the last five years
00:26:19.060 has been driven by a big increase in the labor force, which was largely because of a surge in immigration.
00:26:25.780 It is now trying to be controlled. And by government spending that grew over nine percent year after
00:26:34.820 year after year, twice the rate of growth of our economy. Okay, so our economy was weak before we got
00:26:41.540 to the point of these threats from President Trump. I don't need to play the rest of that for you.
00:26:49.220 Don Stewart said in his post that this was the biggest own goal of the night. And that is absolutely
00:26:55.220 correct. Mark Carney is trying to sound statesmanly, I could admit to some mistakes that the government
00:27:01.620 has made. But he doesn't mention the fact that he was the guy who was advising Trudeau on economic
00:27:09.220 policy for the last five years. And there's no indication that Mark Carney was not being listened to.
00:27:15.140 If anything, and this has been leaked by Freeland staff in Parliament, that she was basically being
00:27:21.780 forced to implement every stupid idea that Mark Carney had. Now, let's be clear that Christian
00:27:27.380 Freeland didn't have better ideas than Mark Carney, probably. But every bad consequence over the
00:27:32.900 last five years that Canadians have had to suffer through is because of Mr. Mark Carney. He's just
00:27:39.060 economically incompetent. People point to him and say, well, he did well under Harper and Flaherty.
00:27:43.300 Yeah, because Harper and Flaherty were telling him what to do. In 2008, do you think Mark Carney
00:27:48.500 was calling his own shots? Not a chance. It was earlier in his career. And he is previously
00:27:54.580 starting to leave his more economically, slightly more conservative roots when he was working for
00:28:01.060 Paul Martin as deputy finance minister, and like, you know, actually engaging in some fiscal,
00:28:07.140 you know, restraint. But that was when he was under other people's leadership, and they were telling
00:28:11.460 him what to do. Once he left as the governor of the Bank of Canada, and he became the governor of the
00:28:16.340 Bank of England, and he's been working for his own companies and engaging with the World Economic
00:28:20.660 Forum and the UN, he has gone extremely Keynesian. I was talking to a conservative organizer the other
00:28:27.300 night who's reading Carney's book, and he says that he does name check Karl Marx in his book. This is why
00:28:33.300 I call Mark Carney, Marx Carney, because when you look at the guy's policies, he is left left. I actually
00:28:40.580 I'm very unclear if he even disagrees with Karina Gould on anything, or if he is just less willing
00:28:47.540 to say what she's willing to say out loud, but he would totally do it if he got in. And I think that's
00:28:52.740 probably true. But I'm just talking about in this debate how they're presenting themselves. But yeah,
00:28:57.460 that is going to be an easy advertisement for the conservatives in this next election. Here is another
00:29:04.020 clip that Melissa Lansman had posted. It's just nine seconds. Melissa Lansman is the conservative
00:29:10.980 MP for Thornhill. And this is Mark Carney. Not what he probably directly means, but this guy's a flub
00:29:17.620 machine on the debate stage, kind of accidentally talking down Canadians by being deeply inaccurate
00:29:23.540 with his language. Mark Carney. Okay. One of the reasons why families have a hard time to afford
00:29:28.900 their groceries is because we haven't had productivity. That's the issue. And everyone's
00:29:35.220 trying to say, well, that's not what he means. He means the economy overall has not been productive.
00:29:39.780 The problem is, is that the blame is not on the Canadian economy, it's on the Canadian government.
00:29:44.900 And yeah, he kind of gave that lip service in the previous clip that government spending has been
00:29:49.460 outpacing the growth of the economy. And most of our growth is only coming from labor. But at the
00:29:55.220 same time, he talks about this as if he's now the man with the secret sauce to tell us how we can be
00:30:01.060 more productive. He's the one who's going to pass the right policies to make it all better. And he's
00:30:05.940 just not. He doesn't know what he's doing. He doesn't know he's doing proven by the last five years.
00:30:11.860 And I don't think that Canadians want this kind of elitist technocrat as their prime minister,
00:30:16.580 a man who thinks he fundamentally knows how to do your job better than you can, even though he's
00:30:22.260 never actually run a small business or he's never started a business. He's simply been on boards and
00:30:28.420 been an advisor on companies that were probably going to succeed whether he was there or not.
00:30:34.260 Anyways, so the last thing I want to cover here today was the real, the weird kind of
00:30:42.100 response that this debate got from liberals online. Here is Carol McNeil, who is a former
00:30:49.700 CBC broadcaster, and she actually ran this post as an advertisement on X. She said,
00:30:57.780 I'm quite enjoying the liberal debate. Everyone comes across as serious minded and thinking about
00:31:02.740 how to make this country better. They're not at each other's throats. I like it. Who cares?
00:31:08.740 Who actually cares that they're not at each other's throats? If anything, they should have been.
00:31:13.380 Because a lot of those people on stage, three out of four of them, minus Bayless,
00:31:18.500 although Bayless is also corrupt. He was involved in all the ventilator scams during COVID,
00:31:24.500 that all these people should have been going after each other for having bad records in the government.
00:31:29.460 And the fact that they won't proves that they're not serious about fixing the problems.
00:31:33.300 Here's another one from another liberal account online, and these have gotten substantial likes
00:31:39.460 from liberals themselves. Kimbo here says, well, great debate. I thank Christian Freeland for
00:31:44.980 constantly reminding us about how wrong Paul Pierre is for the role of prime minister. Everyone was
00:31:50.900 aware Carney would give it his all in the French debate. He did well. No, he didn't. This actually
00:31:55.540 was for the French debate though, but same difference. Both debates were horrifyingly awful and dull.
00:32:00.340 Nothing said changed my mind. I still believe Mark Carney is the best choice 2025 Canada. I don't know
00:32:06.500 why this has such weird spacing, but what did Carney actually do in any of these debates that made you
00:32:11.860 feel confident at all? He's just an AI. Mark Carney, when he talks, makes me feel like he's a background
00:32:20.740 character in a film, and they just needed him to have some sort of technical sounding dialogue,
00:32:26.020 but they didn't want to try too hard on it. Here is Dr. Matthew S. Johnson, everyone's favorite
00:32:31.220 actual paid liberal shill. He says, Justin Trudeau has been sprinkled into the finish as a Canadian.
00:32:37.300 I appreciate that. That has nothing to do with the debate, but I just found that hilariously out of
00:32:41.700 touch. But he says here about the debate last night, I like Karina's emphasis on affordability by
00:32:48.020 improving the social safety net, but improving the economy through less drastic measures isn't such a
00:32:53.060 terrible idea either, as she criticized Mark Carney and Christia for, and she would need to account
00:32:58.820 for that as PM in a Trump era. Okay, well, I like how he's both saying, I like her ideas, but I also
00:33:05.220 like other ideas too, because this man is paid to not have any ideas past the fact that liberal's good
00:33:11.780 and whoever wins is good. Here is him trying to hype up all this, you know, policy talk, this substantial
00:33:19.060 policy talk that was going on. Not just push money out the door, like quote, that was a quote from
00:33:24.900 Carney, a quote from Carney on defense spending, not just being about arbitrary targets. Freeland responds
00:33:31.220 that reaching 2027 target is a matter of will. Carney tighter approach to fiscal management, I think,
00:33:36.660 is what appeals to a lot of Canadians post Trudeau. And then he says, this is an intelligent debate.
00:33:43.380 No, it is not. None of these people, other than Frank Bayless, actually gave detail. And even then,
00:33:50.340 Frank Bayless, you could say, was wrong on his actual prescriptions for what the economy needs.
00:33:56.100 There are so many liberals posting about how it was so great it was unified. It's not actually great.
00:34:01.140 It proves that they haven't learned a thing since Justin Trudeau announced that he'd be stepping down.
00:34:06.740 All of them show that they are a marginally different person than Justin Trudeau. And the
00:34:12.500 Canadian economy is, in fact, broken. They can say that that's unpatriotic to say it's a fact.
00:34:17.700 And if you're not willing to acknowledge that fact and actually give a full fat reform policy,
00:34:23.300 then you're not useful to anybody in Canada. But anyways, so that should be it. To recap,
00:34:29.540 I'd probably give Frank Bayless for the fact that he actually got a lot of attention these last two
00:34:33.620 debates, an A+. Karina Gould probably mapped out the most distinct portion of the liberals to vote
00:34:39.780 for. The core left, she gets an A-, I think that Chrystia Freeland, from the perspective of the very
00:34:46.740 strong anti-American vote in the leadership race, probably gets an A-, and Carney was barely there,
00:34:52.660 so he gets a C-, that was this liberal leadership debate. Like, share, and subscribe for this video,
00:34:59.540 because that was painful to watch. And I'll see you guys all next time.