The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - Liberal media CANNOT STAND Pierre is rising in the polls!

00:00:00.240 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here, and yes, I still haven't gotten that haircut I talked about last week.

00:00:07.640 I apologize.

00:00:09.160 But today we will be talking about the liberal media being in deep denial about Pierre Polyev and the conservatives making a comeback right now.

00:00:19.020 Now, that doesn't mean that in a month or so, the conservatives are going to be leading the liberals by five points or something like that.

00:00:26.160 The carny liberals are still leading, but the Pierre Polyev conservatives are starting to make major gains in the polls, and I think rhetorically they have the upper hand right now.

00:00:36.440 And so, of course, liberal commentators on networks like CBC are going to downplay this whole thing and pretend that Polyev is dead and buried and he can't come back because, really, they're just wish-casting.

00:00:49.180 They hope that if they keep repeating this, their audience will never actually consider voting conservative because the CBC keeps saying that he's desperate, he's trying to make a pivot, but don't worry people, it's not going to work.

00:01:01.460 As if he's some sort of reoccurring villain on a television show that you're definitely not supposed to like.

00:01:07.980 But anyways, that's enough of a preamble here.

00:01:10.680 We're going to get right into the CBC segment in just a second.

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00:01:48.580 But now, without further ado, here is the Political Pulse panel on CBC

00:01:54.340 with some of the people I dislike the most talking about Polyev.

00:01:59.580 Can we call it a pivot?

00:02:01.660 Conservative leader Pierre Polyev has begun taking international trips

00:02:05.320 to defend Canada's interests and selling what he has to offer in more interviews,

00:02:10.080 including an appearance on the controversial yet highly popular podcast, The Joe Rogan Experience.

00:02:16.100 She's about to go through some clips here, and I do like that the CBC included some clips,

00:02:20.120 but did she really have to lean on controversial that much? It's a podcast. There has been

00:02:25.700 controversies on it. It's existed for a very, very long time. The thing is that if someone went on

00:02:32.500 Hassan Piker's show, they would have never used the term controversial, even though Hassan Piker

00:02:38.280 isn't just controversial because of media spin and people overreacting to things he does.

00:02:43.840 Hassan Piker is a person who engages in violent communist rhetoric on his Twitch show,

00:02:49.240 and the CBC has, in fact, had him on multiple times and never brought up the fact that he said

00:02:55.020 terrible things like America deserves 9-11, mocked a congressman for losing his eye in war,

00:03:00.680 and a bunch of other extremely disgusting things, posting the plans to the weapon that was used to

00:03:06.200 assassinate Shinzo Abe in response to a senator he didn't like in the United States. That guy

00:03:11.940 goes on the CBC, never called controversial. Also, what I don't like here is that just the

00:03:18.580 way she introduces this, it's to basically get the audience to believe like, oh, look at that

00:03:23.520 Polyev trying to make a sneaky, you know, little pivot to try and get back in the political

00:03:29.380 limelight. How has Polyev actually pivoted? Because she acts, she implies that the pivot

00:03:35.360 is about him defending Canada. As if he wasn't defending Canada before. That's just false. But

00:03:42.120 let's just listen to that again. Defend Canada. Conservatives talk about that next. Can we call

00:03:49.100 it a pivot? Conservative leader Pierre Polyev has begun taking international trips to defend

00:03:54.740 Canada's interests and selling what he has to offer in more interviews, including an appearance

00:03:59.720 on the controversial yet highly popular podcast, The Joe Rogan Experience.

00:04:04.200 So I think you guys see what I mean right there.

00:04:06.920 The host, who again is supposed to be neutral,

00:04:09.260 implies that Polyev is pivoting by starting to defend Canada internationally.

00:04:14.640 Now, maybe she would say, I'm just saying that he started to do international trips,

00:04:18.240 but then just say he's pivoted into doing international trips like Mark Carney has

00:04:23.520 to try and one-up him in some way or whatever.

00:04:25.980 That would be a very neutral way of explaining it,

00:04:27.840 saying he's starting to defend Canada and taking international trips implies the pivot was about

00:04:32.840 him defending Canada as if he wasn't doing that before. Now, this seems maybe pedantic,

00:04:38.460 but it does matter because this is the type of media many people in Canada are consuming.

00:04:43.340 You know, I'm happy to see that it's less and less every year because the CBC is awful,

00:04:47.980 but there is a significant amount of voters who are going to watch stuff like this and base their

00:04:53.040 opinions off of it and there we'll go around saying well probably have only started defending

00:04:57.980 Canada recently because of how unpopular he was oh my goodness when you believe in something

00:05:04.940 you fight for it and most of all when you start something you never give up

00:05:11.140 what President Trump says about Canada is wrong we should not declare a permanent rupture with our

00:05:21.200 biggest customer and closest neighbor in favor of a strategic partnership for a new world order

00:05:28.400 with beijing need to be stronger at home so they actually kind of miscut that one part because it

00:05:33.360 made it sound like he was talking about trump when he's in fact talking he mentions trump at the

00:05:37.280 start but later on in that clip he was talking about carney saying that our relationship with

00:05:42.760 the united states is forever changed and it's not going to go back to as it was but it's like the

00:05:47.760 CBC like strategically cut out that he was talking about Carney so the viewer wouldn't connect that

00:05:53.040 right away and understand that he's criticizing Carney's dumb position on trade. That we can have

00:05:59.180 unbreakable leverage abroad. Net zero policies drove energy and food costs up and paychecks down

00:06:05.380 all to fill the pockets of green grifters. Conservatives believe a new policy approach

00:06:10.060 that restores manufacturing to both Canada and the U.S. So I thought like hell to win. I didn't

00:06:15.000 win. We came very close. So I've said, listen, I'll leave it to the Prime Minister to do the

00:06:20.360 negotiating. Mr. Speaker, he promised we'd be first. So why is he the worst? Too much bureaucracy.

00:06:27.720 The new Liberals the same as the old Liberals, Mr. Speaker. Will he fire them or will he just

00:06:32.300 continue with the same Liberal incompetence? In the by-elections, we will be running candidates

00:06:36.480 on the platform of making Canada affordable at home and stronger at home. But with the polls

00:06:43.620 showing the Conservatives stuck at least 10 points behind the Liberals. Can Pierre Pauly have

00:06:47.920 adapt his attack dog image to resonate with more Canadians? Our party insiders are back,

00:06:53.040 Greg McEacher. Okay, sorry, but no, the Conservatives are not at least 10 points behind

00:06:58.640 the Liberals. At least if you maybe take certain pollsters who are not very good at their jobs,

00:07:04.180 the Conservatives are at least 10 points behind. And by the way, margins of error exist. We've

00:07:09.560 already seen pollsters like Abacus, pollsters like Nanos, pollsters like Main Street already

00:07:16.480 show significant declines in the liberal lead. Probably because most of the lead was not real,

00:07:22.520 it was just a lot of sort of polling response bias. Response bias does not mean the pollster

00:07:27.620 itself is trying to come to a pro-liberal conclusion with their numbers. The response

00:07:32.440 bias means that the pollster is not properly correcting for the fact that there are just a

00:07:36.440 lot of partisan liberals taking the polls and not a lot of conservatives. Pollsters need to do a

00:07:41.800 better job to make sure that the people they're polling were not voters for the liberals in the

00:07:47.020 last election disproportionately to how many people actually voted liberal last time. The

00:07:51.880 problem with response biases is that you'll do a poll where the liberals are at 48%, but then you

00:07:58.260 look at the actual people that you sampled and like 47% of respondents had voted liberal in the

00:08:04.020 last election. So in theory, they're only doing marginally better than last time. And the

00:08:08.400 conservatives who look like they're down actually achieved a not bad result, considering you didn't

00:08:12.740 actually pull that many people who chose conservative in the last election. So already

00:08:16.960 poisoning the well here, implying that the conservatives are just way down in the dumps.

00:08:22.680 They're like 10 points below the liberals, probably no point even voting for them, guys.

00:08:28.740 But we'll get to the panel. So she mentioned Greg McEachern, who's the liberal hack on it.

00:08:33.220 There's also Fred DeLore here, who's supposed to be the conservative, but if you ever watched

00:08:36.900 the show, he's just not conservative at all.

00:08:39.040 And then there's the woman who represents the NDB, and they're also relevant, it doesn't

00:08:42.940 matter.

00:08:43.560 Fred DeLore and Melanie Richet.

00:08:46.080 Fred, I'm going to start with you.

00:08:47.480 We learned a lot about Pierre Polyev's workout routine on that Joe Rogan podcast, but I don't

00:08:52.320 know, are there pivots in his moves?

00:08:55.100 Do you think Polyev is attempting something of a pivot right now, Fred DeLore?

00:08:58.380 Again, I have to keep pausing to talk about the host here.

00:09:01.620 I don't even know what her name is. It's not even worth knowing. If anyone knows what her name is,

00:09:06.500 please do not mention in the comments because I do not care. Oh, we learned a lot about how he

00:09:11.840 likes to work out on the Joe Rogan podcast. Is this a pivot, Fred? Boiling down that two and a

00:09:18.860 half hour discussion, the little bits where he was joking around with Joe Rogan because it's a casual

00:09:23.960 podcast, that's not mainly about politics. It's about anything. And so they talked about MMA.

00:09:30.500 They talked about working out.

00:09:31.920 They talked about problems in Canada.

00:09:33.360 They talked about some other stuff, about Polyev as a person.

00:09:36.700 There was a lot in there.

00:09:37.720 And she boils down like, well, we learned a lot about how he likes to pump iron.

00:09:43.040 Is this part of a pivot, Fred?

00:09:45.200 Now let's get over to Fred.

00:09:47.780 Look, I've always argued against the word pivot.

00:09:50.140 That's a very striking move where you completely go a separate direction.

00:09:54.680 I think he's now getting on to the main agenda of what Canadians have been talking about.

00:10:00.200 uh and what they're concerned about when it comes to trump and tariffs he was obviously very good

00:10:04.340 on affordability and crime and came within only 20 or so seats of uh of the liberals in the last

00:10:09.820 election so it did work in that regards now he hasn't been strong on the tariff in u.s thing

00:10:15.100 until about a month or so ago when he gave his speech at the economic club and then he's been

00:10:19.820 doing his tour he's went to the uk he's went to the u.s and uh i would disagree here with fred

00:10:24.500 and this is why i don't like fred on this show was he exactly weak on the trade issue before

00:10:30.180 No, he effectively had the same position as Mark Carney, but he was just wondering what the heck Mark Carney was doing not being able to get a deal when he promised to do it.

00:10:38.120 He wasn't weak. He basically had to, I guess we can call it a pivot, get to pivot in response to the fact the media was not actually properly reporting on what he was doing.

00:10:50.320 They were acting like he was somehow taking Trump's side and belittling and nitpicking Mark Carney.

00:10:55.440 Like, no, he was asking Mark Carney, you keep promising to do this thing and you didn't do it.

00:10:59.580 So then the pivot was him starting to make lots and lots of suggestions of what Mark Carney could

00:11:05.400 be doing to get a deal. How about we rip up the China deal to get a deal with the United States?

00:11:09.800 How about we massively lower tax and regulations on our side of the border to strengthen our hand

00:11:15.200 so then we can negotiate with the US? How about we basically, even if we want to demand some big

00:11:20.780 things, we may have to make concessions. So he took a realistic view, actually sounded like the

00:11:26.840 adult in the room. And I don't mean that by implication that he used to not, but in just

00:11:32.300 the sense that Carney has not really been doing anything. So now Polyev is having to show up like

00:11:37.180 Carney's dad and say, well, how about you try this, son? Have you ever tried doing that? You

00:11:42.780 know, you're just sitting there in the mud, not doing anything. So how about you do this or that?

00:11:46.740 So the idea that I hate this Dama implication, that he was somehow like on the wrong side of

00:11:51.680 the issue before. I think he greatly improved his position because now by offering Carney all this

00:11:57.400 advice and Carney not taking it, Carney looks like a buffoon and Poliova actually looks like

00:12:01.500 he's taking the issue seriously. But it's not like Poliova was like pro-Trump before and now

00:12:06.120 he's against Trump. He was always anti-trade, like tariffs. Obviously he was. Everyone is in

00:12:13.760 this country. But then with Carney or but then with the media, they act like somehow he's like

00:12:20.300 profoundly changed his position. His program on Joe Rogan. I think the strategy right now,

00:12:25.940 though, for him and what they should be doing is get as much time as you can. Right now,

00:12:30.620 the issue set is not good. We have a major trade crisis right now, and all eyes are on

00:12:37.260 the prime minister to diversify our markets and get things moving. And it's not the real time

00:12:42.720 for politics or elections. So this is why Fred Delory sucks. Fred Delory is terrible. You can

00:12:49.160 tell he was the campaign manager for Aaron O'Toole there. Oh, this issue set isn't very good. So we

00:12:54.220 need to buy time. No, no. In politics, you can in fact win on issues that you don't think are your

00:13:01.060 ideal issues. Polyev is actually doing a good job of trying to take an issue where people could say

00:13:06.760 it's a bad issue for the conservatives and try and make it a good one. Is it an uphill battle

00:13:11.500 in a certain sense? Because Mark Carney was elected as the guy to stand up to Trump and Trump

00:13:17.300 every once in a while and gets into a fight with him, which means we have this kind of like wounded

00:13:21.060 puppy dog effect of Carney being like, oh, that's so bad. Trump made fun of you. Oh, I love Carney

00:13:26.760 because Trump said something bad about him. Yes, but Polyev, by actually basically pointing out

00:13:32.260 how Carney is making us lose this trade war and win that fight. But it's just this stupid red

00:13:39.960 Tory blue liberal approach of just lying prone dead on the floor, hoping that the enemy doesn't

00:13:45.260 notice you. And then once the playing field changes enough, then you'll get up and start

00:13:49.980 fighting. It's like, no, you just need bolder policy. I think that Polyev has taken a bolder

00:13:55.220 policy on trade. Now he needs to expand that on to other issues. Run on a big tax cut. Run on big

00:14:01.440 social reform. Run on big spending reform. You can do it. Do not listen to people like Fred Delory

00:14:08.540 here. I think time is on his side if he can get to that stage. There's a lot of conservative MPs

00:14:15.240 who if an election were today would lose their seats and they're nervous about that. So I think

00:14:20.780 he needs to, time is one thing, but also softening his voter coalition in terms of, or sorry, his

00:14:27.460 negatives, which are very, have been very high. And I think he's had some success over the last

00:14:32.780 few weeks. His negatives are really not high. This is like one of these myths that because

00:14:37.420 Mark Carney currently beats him in preferred prime minister polls, which are very useless

00:14:42.340 mechanisms to determining public opinion, because everyone who's on the left of center party just

00:14:47.720 says that they choose Mark Carney over Polyev, because they know that their party leaders,

00:14:52.480 if they don't vote liberal, ain't becoming prime minister. So they say they prefer

00:14:56.060 like Carney to him. If you actually look at the approval ratings for Polyev,

00:15:01.340 at what people think about him on the other issues, it's not brilliant. He's not like,

00:15:06.020 you know, massively popular. He's not massively unpopular either. He's actually kind of a typical

00:15:10.840 conservative leader, where because of media propaganda, there are a disproportionate amount

00:15:15.820 of liberals who say that they strongly dislike him. Whereas conservatives, even with Trudeau

00:15:20.720 around up until the last year, we're willing to say they just kind of disliked him. It's just that

00:15:25.540 kind of knee jerk reaction in Canadian politics, where every conservative leader is must be

00:15:31.340 partially viewed as the devil. And that's why they always have a hard time having a good approval

00:15:35.760 rating. But Pauliev's approval rating has never like, it's not like negative 10 or something like

00:15:40.020 that it's like negative three negative two sometimes it's positive so in fact it's perfectly

00:15:44.940 fine he has about 40 of the country who likes him 45 that dislike him and then there's a few more

00:15:51.240 undecided people in between but anyways now i'm trying i'm really sorry i'm burning through this

00:15:56.480 a bit slowly it's always it's going to fall off the rails once we get to craig mckechron as always

00:16:01.280 because that's the guy in denial here thanks on this i think the joe rogan thing uh was heard by

00:16:06.060 millions of canadians and the polling that we've seen on it show that it's had a positive impact

00:16:10.880 there has been a tightening by a few points in a number of the major polls he doesn't need to

00:16:14.780 take over the polls or even tie them or even come too close right now he just needs to soften the

00:16:19.600 negatives that needs to be his focus and if he accomplishes that he could get himself back into

00:16:24.020 the running and again it all comes down to when the next election is and what the issue sets are

00:16:27.860 when we i agree with fred on the timeline that we're just trying to chip away at some points

00:16:33.040 It's not because people have this all is lost mentality. As soon as the conservatives are not in the lead, people are never going to change. Polls change. It's just that the liberals tend to be the luckiest people on the planet and they end up getting the best news cycles to run elections on or they get to run against the weakest opponents.

00:16:48.860 but I disagree with Fred every time he's acting like somehow we need to reduce negatives. No,

00:16:54.100 no, it's just increased positives. Right now, I would say the problem for the Conservatives is

00:16:58.280 there isn't those really bold policy ideas like cutting taxes 20% across the board or take a

00:17:06.080 point off the GST and cut tax across the board 15% including corporate, like really big change type

00:17:12.780 policy suggestions. That's what they need. It's not that Polly has tons of negatives.

00:17:18.120 It's just that I think that the positives are muted because they're offering too many

00:17:21.440 tinkering policy ideas rather than ones that kind of rip up the turf and really change

00:17:26.580 how things would be done in Canada.

00:17:28.240 That's what you need to do right now with Carney, because Carney is acting like he's

00:17:31.660 the business guru.

00:17:32.640 He's the guy who understands the economy.

00:17:34.600 If you're going to beat him on the economy, you've got to come in here with just a massive

00:17:37.960 punch in terms of what you're suggesting to do, completely unlike everybody else.

00:17:43.120 We are in that next election.

00:17:44.600 So Mel, one way he gets time is if Mark Carney gets a majority government, but then Pierre

00:17:50.440 Polyev potentially has to hang on for three years when some members of his caucus have left for the

00:17:56.120 Liberals. Is there such a thing as too much time for Mr. Polyev? Like, how does he get the balance

00:18:01.280 right here? Totally. And a reminder that the Conservatives are the only party who have adopted

00:18:04.700 Michael Chong's Private Reform Act, which means that caucus gets to get rid of him at any point

00:18:11.800 that caucus wants. So absolutely too much time could be a bad thing for Pia Poyev,

00:18:16.280 particularly if he can't figure out what his message is and what his opposition to Carney is.

00:18:22.080 I think to Fred's point, there has been, Fred may not like the word pivot, but finally a pivot

00:18:28.100 after hearing about a pivot for a year, he said the things he needed to say on the US. He said

00:18:32.140 the things he needed to say about Trump. He said all those things so many times,

00:18:35.740 but we keep memory holing it all to pretend as if every time he does it, oh my goodness,

00:18:40.200 it's the first time he's ever said something about donald trump oh it's the first time that

00:18:44.840 he didn't get on his knees and praise him i'm like that never happened i'm sorry but that never

00:18:49.960 happened you can't just keep acting like every time he does something good we're like oh finally

00:18:54.200 he did something good he's been doing it this entire time he didn't take the bait from from

00:18:59.800 joe rogan on those things so some of those things are are good for piappa yep i think it's way too

00:19:04.360 late i think the time to do that was was a year ago and i don't know how much um goodwill that'll

00:19:08.840 by him with with voters i'll go back to you know when i look at my parents um is is that something

00:19:13.480 that they can or is he somebody that they can still vote for no he's still the same you know

00:19:17.240 guy who said the same kind of things but but it does um how about instead of saying same kind of

00:19:23.400 things we actually say what kind of things those are and then naming some specific things it must

00:19:30.200 be easy to be a commentator on the cbc you can just sit there and be a complete lobotomite and

00:19:35.720 And then just say, well, you know, I think that he should be doing things a year ago, the things he's doing now, because I think that these are the sort of things that he should have been doing.

00:19:46.700 And it's just like, you can just say nothing. You could go on television every day on this panel.

00:19:51.620 And just based on what the host asks you about, having never seen the issue yourself, you could probably get through it and sound wise and considered based on the standards of the CBC.

00:20:02.880 This is just horrible.

00:20:04.160 Like, I'm just going to burn through the rest of her thing here because she's awful.

00:20:08.400 Her points are irrelevant.

00:20:09.860 And Mel says, well, there isn't actually for the Liberals.

00:20:12.260 It's for the NDP.

00:20:13.700 Greg, interesting question.

00:20:15.140 When Mel says, well, he's got to figure out how to describe Carney.

00:20:17.860 But at the same time, some of what we're seeing, I think, is around how he describes himself,

00:20:22.160 what he wants Canadians to see about himself.

00:20:24.040 What is the bigger challenge for Pierre Polyev?

00:20:25.920 Is it how he deals with Mark Carney or how he presents Pierre Polyev?

00:20:30.420 well it's funny one of the things that he had said i think in the rogan interview was

00:20:35.440 he he said i am the prime minister and waiting and and i find that odd that uh there's lots of

00:20:41.640 people that have been described you know prime ministers or premiers and waiting they don't

00:20:45.180 usually describe themselves that way and it would have been perhaps a more apt uh thing to describe

00:20:50.560 yourself in 2024 it's certainly not that feeling now uh up until about christmas um it's literally

00:20:57.660 his job title he's the opposition leader and prime minister in waiting that's what he said

00:21:02.520 on the program he wasn't like trying to arrogantly act like oh well you know i'm the guy who's

00:21:07.080 basically going to inherit it right away he was literally just to joe rogan explaining what the

00:21:11.320 purpose of being the opposition leader is and now we're like going down the rabbit hole on that

00:21:15.620 parties were neck and neck uh mr carney far ahead uh you know in terms of head-to-head polling

00:21:21.180 between um you know carney and pauliev but since that time and i disagree with with fred i'm not

00:21:27.600 sure the polls are actually showing that they got a bump from going on the joe rogan show yeah i

00:21:32.240 think i think he got fred fred the absolute doormat here after after greg just says i don't

00:21:40.040 actually think they've gotten a bump and fred's like oh fair they have multiple pollsters have

00:21:45.840 showed the polls tighten significantly we literally saw in main street's poll that used to show the

00:21:51.940 liberals at like 51 and the conservatives at like 16 or something like that that the liberals

00:21:57.500 ended up losing in their latest poll like five points and the conservatives gained two that's a

00:22:02.920 seven point swing other pollsters showed something similar whether it was the conservatives gaining

00:22:07.520 four or and the liberals losing one or two but this has happened before nanos which does a rolling

00:22:14.000 poll where they pull a thousand people but they only add in a new 250 every like few days and

00:22:19.580 they bump off the oldest 250 even they only adding in 250 more samples showed the swing between the

00:22:26.360 liberals and the conservatives at like four points it was like a three and a half to four point swing

00:22:30.680 that took place between the two with only replacing one quarter of the sample and the

00:22:36.540 rest of the sample being that very pro-liberal news cycle sample like what no if they have it

00:22:42.940 is objectively tightened you can't look at a crappy poll like eco says oh wow the liberals

00:22:48.360 are leading by 21 points and be like oh well she hasn't tightened yet because frank graves polls

00:22:53.060 that's never been accurate in its entire life.

00:22:56.220 They say the liberals are still leading,

00:22:58.180 ergo all of the other movement in the polls don't matter.

00:23:01.680 A lot of attention from it,

00:23:03.140 but we haven't figured out whether it's actually given him any boost.

00:23:07.640 Look, Catherine, I do wonder, what does Aaron O'Toole think some days?

00:23:11.180 What did I do that was so wrong?

00:23:13.040 What did he do that was so wrong?

00:23:15.860 He was barely any different than Justin Trudeau.

00:23:18.740 That's what he did wrong.

00:23:19.860 Of course, Greg McEachern likes him

00:23:21.800 because Aaron O'Toole is a loser. Aaron O'Toole isn't even attempting to lose or to win.

00:23:27.040 Justin Trudeau was eminently beatable in both 21 and 2019. In fact, he was probably beatable

00:23:34.080 even in 2015 when Harper was still around. This is not me saying that, oh, Carney's less beatable,

00:23:40.140 but Carney's a much smarter player, and he got to come in with a fresh kind of feel to the Canadian

00:23:45.200 public, even though, you know, if you're a political observer, you know he's not really

00:23:48.560 all that new he was the political he was the economy advisor economic advisor trudeau for

00:23:52.720 five years but like acting as if like oh what does erin o'toole think right now dude erin o'toole

00:23:59.120 sucks what are you acting like oh he's going to get to it in a second why doesn't he get a second

00:24:04.700 chance because he destroyed the conservative party's ideal ideology in 21 he ran as a liberal

00:24:10.180 that's why he got kicked out because parties exist to win for the specific reasons if you're

00:24:17.120 just trying to win you become Doug Ford and you stand up for nothing but the federal conservative

00:24:20.900 party has this little kind of issue where it wants to win and actually be conservative for the most

00:24:26.760 part you know sometimes it's a little less conservative more conservative but you never

00:24:30.760 want to just become the Ontario PC party that believes in nothing gets chance after chance

00:24:35.980 after chance if he goes on up days uh any boost I look Catherine I do wonder what does Aaron O'Toole

00:24:41.760 think some days what did I do that was so wrong when Polyev gets chance after chance after chance

00:24:46.780 If he goes on a podcast and talks about the RCMP being politically manipulated, he goes on.

00:24:54.360 Sorry, chance after chance.

00:24:56.420 Is Greg McEachern implying all those were like, I guess we could say, like, coup attempt worthy infractions?

00:25:06.960 In fact, a lot of those things like, Polly, of going after the RCMP was something taken out of context by hacks on the CBC.

00:25:13.860 where he was saying going after the RCMP for being political

00:25:17.660 because in fact there are a lot of people at the RCMP

00:25:20.360 who have risen in the ranks

00:25:23.160 not from good police work, not from professionalism

00:25:26.220 but from being liberal apparatchiks

00:25:28.720 by being very friendly with the liberal government

00:25:30.960 they have been promoted and Polly have pointed out

00:25:33.520 that there has been a lot of bad work done in the policing service

00:25:37.720 because of liberal PACs getting to the top

00:25:41.600 police officers who are going along with the gun ban when every rank and file officer hates the

00:25:46.920 stupid gun ban that's what he was talking about there but like he's acting as if somehow like

00:25:51.200 poliev is on strike number like nine and most people only get three strikes those are not

00:25:57.180 problems like he gets to go on podcast after podcast i'm sorry what has he done wrong that's

00:26:01.560 making the podcasts like i guess like not valid for him to be doing the joe rogan podcast which

00:26:08.960 we can talk about the reach but still it's a podcast where some very unseemly things were

00:26:13.320 talked about i still hear from people that they were very uncomfortable that you know that mr

00:26:18.140 polyev went in a show where he would talk about you know who justin trudeau's real father is i

00:26:22.800 mean that that sounds like you know american network afternoon tv in the 1990s he did he did

00:26:28.280 shut that he's he's really trying to reach and make it seem like that like somehow every positive

00:26:36.200 thing that Polyev does actually has this little tiny fold where if you peel it back, everyone

00:26:41.260 hated it. Like, dude, he made a joke about Justin Trudeau's dad that I actually think

00:26:46.760 Polyev shut down a bit too fast. I think he can let the host joke about that for 15 seconds

00:26:50.820 and be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He does look like Fidel Castro, but Pierre Trudeau

00:26:54.760 is his dad, I can tell you. But like, and acting like, because Rogan even brought it

00:27:01.360 up. This is a reason why people can't vote for your Polyev. And now you could say, well, he is

00:27:07.040 the liberal on the panel. He doesn't literally work for the Liberal Party, though. Be a little

00:27:12.080 more objective. He can get away with, like, even the host here is having to correct him on the idea

00:27:17.060 that it was shut down. But he's just reaching to basically try and rip down every single thing

00:27:21.880 that Polyev does and turn it into, well, if you think about it this way, if you really squint and

00:27:26.540 tilt your head, actually it shows that Polyev is a contemptible person and that you shouldn't

00:27:31.880 consider voting for him. He hasn't changed. This is all just propaganda on the CBC to tell people

00:27:37.180 at home to not vote conservative. And that's why they have Fred DeLaurie there as the conservative

00:27:41.480 representative, because Fred DeLaurie is a doormat who will agree with Greg McEachern.

00:27:46.640 Like, you know, American Network Afternoon TV in the 1990s.

00:27:50.480 He did shut that. I mean, that was Joe Rogan speculation and Mr. Polyev shut it down.

00:27:54.940 Catherine, I hear what you're saying, but I would, when you say that, I would actually encourage people to go and watch that because there's a lot of laughter during that.

00:28:02.700 I wouldn't, it wasn't.

00:28:03.640 Oh, there's a lot of laughter during the three seconds that it was being joked about.

00:28:07.420 There was a lot of laughter.

00:28:08.620 We should, we should just basically say that Polyev is beyond contempt now because there was a lot of laughter.

00:28:14.540 If you go back and watch that when someone made a funny joke, wow, someone made a funny joke and someone laughed about it.

00:28:20.260 Oh, you can't let that guy be prime minister.

00:28:22.980 the hardest pushback i've ever seen and he kind of said no i don't know about that and i mean

00:28:27.680 that's the risk you go no he didn't just say no i don't know about that he actually said it was

00:28:33.360 wrong and that pierre trudeau is his dad nothing's good enough for greg mccann what interview did he

00:28:39.160 watch if he thinks that that's all that paulie have said about it and they laughed and he just

00:28:43.500 said oh i don't know about that he literally said like multiple times yeah no that's it's not

00:28:48.620 actually his dad on when you go on a medium like that um i i think that the challenge he did say

00:28:54.300 and i just because this and i know you're concerned about this too because this is an

00:28:57.580 issue of public record and we're talking about uh justin trudeau's parentage he said it's not true

00:29:02.940 we're all putting out there for the record obviously this is just uh some creation some

00:29:07.900 conspiracy theory sorry go ahead greg well well i mean if you're gonna go on if you have to get

00:29:13.340 If you get fact-checked as the liberal on a CBC panel, hand in your commentary badge, you're off the case.

00:29:22.320 Greg has the most leeway on that panel of anybody, and he had to get fact-checked by the host,

00:29:29.460 who herself has been putting out misnomers the entire time, but even he claimed that Polyev didn't say something.

00:29:36.520 He clearly not only did say, but said multiple times in different ways,

00:29:40.960 and that Greg is now just going to kind of like bat this off

00:29:44.400 and be like, oh, okay, well, it doesn't really matter

00:29:46.360 if I just lied there.

00:29:47.640 Everyone in the audience is supposed to know at home

00:29:49.460 that Alieva is actually secretly Adolf Hitler

00:29:52.500 and not vote for him because he and Joe Rogan

00:29:54.900 laughed about something for two seconds.

00:29:56.920 A show where a host pushes conspiracy theories.

00:30:00.700 Don't be surprised when it happens.

00:30:02.780 So I, you know, I still, I'm still kind of wondering

00:30:06.280 if this push in the United States

00:30:08.420 is about having you know a lane open post politics for him and if that's the case you know he could

00:30:14.580 do very well in the american right-wing speaking uh circuit but he's also got you know his campaign

00:30:22.100 manager said a few days ago that they were focused on affordability and then a couple days later

00:30:26.500 mr polyev is retweeting the author of harry potter about trans issues and there's a picture

00:30:31.700 yeah yeah and he retweeted a an extremely popular position from jk rowling what's the problem here

00:30:37.620 oh the campaign manager said he was going to talk about affordability issues and he didn't literally

00:30:42.580 spend 24 hours of every single day since then talking about affordability affordability issues

00:30:48.340 hmm hmm this somehow means poly of his bad i don't know how i'm going to get from from point

00:30:54.420 a to zed here but connect the dots yourself he's now bad because he retweeted jk rowling saying

00:31:01.220 something popular of a female boxer who is female and why if you are focused on affordability are

00:31:08.660 you talking about that the other thing katherine i'm noticing is he see the boxers and female

00:31:13.060 it has been proven multiple times teams have less and less control over his caucus in terms of caucus

00:31:18.260 discipline um jamil giovanni the part of the reason why mr polyev couldn't go to washington

00:31:23.620 is if he didn't leave washington with a meeting with the after meeting with the vp and the

00:31:28.580 president, like Giovanni did, it would have been seen as a failure. And you also have Mr. Giovanni

00:31:33.740 voting the other day with props, using the Bible as a prop, which seems to suggest, well, the

00:31:38.900 conservative MPs who didn't vote with a Bible, what's up with them?

00:31:47.900 Greg McEachern is a stupid person. Sorry, he got from Jamil Giovanni holding a Bible at the Bill

00:31:55.400 C9 vote, which threatens to basically undermine religious liberty in Canada. Now, yeah, they're

00:32:02.000 not going to start arresting Christians tomorrow if it passes, obviously not. But it basically is

00:32:06.140 like how bad the BC Human Rights Tribunal is, where you could basically be charged under some

00:32:11.760 sort of act of hatred or whatever for just believing in the Bible. Like, he took a Bible

00:32:19.100 and held it aloft while he voted on it. Actually, not even aloft, just kind of held it to his side.

00:32:24.060 A few other people did as well. Do you, did I, did any of you conservatives out there get the

00:32:29.360 implication that if maybe Melissa Lantzman or Michael Chong or, you know, Tamara Kronos or

00:32:35.940 some other person, Greg McLean, one of these other people, Pat Kelly, didn't do it. I think that I

00:32:42.660 can only name, there's like four or five people who did it. You know, Pierre Polyev didn't do it.

00:32:47.460 Did any of us sit here thinking like, oh my goodness, they're horrible people. Or did we

00:32:52.560 even think that Jamil was implying that they're bad people? No, because he wasn't. He wasn't at

00:32:58.240 all. He was getting attention on an issue. And people are like, oh my goodness, he's using it

00:33:02.660 performatively. I'm like, yeah, that's the point. Getting attention on the issue. And he did it

00:33:08.420 with aplomb, which is why Greg McEachern is talking about it and pretending that it represented

00:33:13.620 something that it clearly did not represent. These people are awful. Again, take away this

00:33:19.480 man's political commentary license. This is terrible. Fred, Greg raises the question of what

00:33:26.600 Aaron O'Toole, your former boss, might be thinking, why didn't he get a second chance? Well, he didn't

00:33:30.700 get a second chance because of the Reform Act and because of Conservative Caucus. So I wonder

00:33:34.780 how much you think Mr. Poliev needs to be concerned about that issue and that being perhaps the

00:33:41.220 biggest challenge to his leadership right now. Well, since Poliev passed the leadership review

00:33:45.800 at the convention there is no other way to take him out as leader other than if caucus does it

00:33:50.080 and they do have that mechanism they could use at the end of the day you know i was aaron o'toole's

00:33:54.480 campaign manager i ran two of his leadership campaigns in his general election and would

00:33:58.320 have been happy to run his next campaign if he had asked me to uh but at the end of the day

00:34:03.260 caucus didn't support him and they chose to remove him okay so we have a completely non-answer from

00:34:08.700 him they're not gonna caucus isn't going to take up poly of unless poly of has some massive scandal

00:34:14.320 hit him from out of nowhere. He gets arrested for something and they have tape of him doing the

00:34:19.000 thing. He's not going to get taken out. Which MPs would want to sign their name to trying to get

00:34:24.600 rid of peer poly? Even if it's a secret vote, everyone would eventually find out how people

00:34:28.220 voted. Who would want to be the one to take out the guy who got 87% at the convention? You're not

00:34:34.080 going to do that. But it's just baseless speculation from the CBC pretending like he's always teetering

00:34:39.180 on the edge when the real story is that he's actually getting out there far more he's doing

00:34:44.460 far more media the conservatives are starting to make some consistent gains back in the polls

00:34:49.600 liberals are still leading but the conservatives are starting to knock that lead down from the

00:34:54.260 high single digits you know eight let's say up the highest i would tolerate is like 11 or so

00:34:59.940 anything past that story just that's not how fast the polls change in a couple of months since

00:35:05.100 December. But the conservatives have been knocking it down to just leads of maybe seven points or

00:35:10.120 eight points or six points. And so that is really the thing that's been going on here. But the

00:35:15.640 entire segment turned into like acting as a Polyev is going to go away at some point, or that all

00:35:21.480 these things that Polyev did that got him attention that actually pulled well, people even did polling

00:35:25.520 on the Joe Rogan interview, and it went out, it went over very well with people, us implying that

00:35:30.500 all this stuff actually just shows that he's incredibly weak. And in fact, nobody really

00:35:34.380 likes this stuff because Greg McEachern says so. Oh, or that he's pivoting, implying that somehow

00:35:41.420 he had the evil position before and now he has the good position. Only now does he have it. Every

00:35:47.200 time like Polyev does anything good, like I was saying, the media will pretend like, oh, wow,

00:35:52.560 this is so different for him. Even if he's done it like 10,000 times before. Oh, wow. That's the

00:35:58.200 first time he's ever said something bad about tariffs. He's been doing it forever. What are

00:36:02.760 talking about? He's probably he's probably saying bad things about tariffs before Donald Trump was

00:36:07.080 president, because small government conservatives tend to not be pro tariff. Anyways, with that all

00:36:14.120 being said, thank you guys for watching this video. Hopefully you don't mind me commentating

00:36:18.720 on on top of other people's commentary. I always find it's a good foil to talk about what the

00:36:24.180 current state of Canadian politics by hearing what legacy media commentators are saying first.

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The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - April 04, 2026

Liberal media CANNOT STAND Pierre is rising in the polls!

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