The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - April 07, 2026


Liberal Minister CHOKES when asked about Forced Labour during China visit!


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In this episode of the National Telegraph's YouTube channel, we discuss the Canadian Finance Minister Francois-Philippe Champagne's trip to China and the media's questions about it. We also discuss why Canada should be trading less with the United States and more with the rest of the world.

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00:00:00.000 Ni hao everyone, Wyatt Claypool here, and welcome back to the National Telegraph YouTube channel.
00:00:07.060 The Mark Carney liberal strategy on China is absolutely naive and insane,
00:00:12.980 and I want to talk to you guys about just how blind the Carney government is being
00:00:17.900 when walking into a closer relationship with China.
00:00:21.800 Now, I do not think we should be integrating more with China at all.
00:00:25.660 In fact, I would rather be trading more with the United States and less with China than the other
00:00:30.640 way around. But Carney has chosen that we should be trading less with the United States and more
00:00:36.520 with the rest of the world. And when he says rest of the world, he really means mainly China.
00:00:42.160 We're going to go over some of the things that our finance minister, Francois-Philippe Champagne,
00:00:47.200 was doing in China over the past few days and how he had an embarrassing press conference where,
00:00:52.800 Yes, the media once again asked if he actually brought up the issue of forced labor in China.
00:00:57.740 And of course, he dodges massively.
00:01:00.160 We can't work with the Americans because Donald Trump, the bad orange man, made fun of us
00:01:05.700 and made jokes about annexing Canada and making us the 51st state, which he's even walked
00:01:10.800 back today saying, ah, out of respect for King Charles, I'm not going to do it.
00:01:14.240 Don't worry, guys.
00:01:15.160 But because he made those jokes, apparently we can now work with Xi Jinping, who is locking
00:01:20.580 up hundreds of thousands of Uyghurs and putting them in forced labor camps, separating couples
00:01:26.280 and making women remarry Han Chinese men, that's okay. That's fine. Totally above board in the
00:01:33.060 carny liberals point of view, because Donald Trump is an evil, nasty Republican, and he does things
00:01:39.240 like kills terrorists abroad. Anyways, with that all being said, we are about to get into the
00:01:45.300 details of this issue. But before we do that, I just want to remind you guys, if you like the
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00:02:29.280 Anyways, so Francois Philippe Champagne had been posting a lot about his trip to China
00:02:35.360 over the past few days. I noticed, though, that the Liberal Party's own social media account
00:02:41.460 and Mark Carney's account were not actually promoting anything that he was doing. It's almost
00:02:46.640 like they already know their current relationship with China does not really look very kosher to
00:02:51.800 many Canadians. This whole thing seems rather sleazy and it looks like a big national security
00:02:56.680 threat. Carney even said that China was our biggest national security threat during the last
00:03:01.200 election, but apparently because of Trump's jokes, it's all above board now. But I want to go through
00:03:07.200 some of these posts, and then I want to take you guys not only to that press conference with the
00:03:12.200 journalists' questions, but then I also want to take you to an article from the Bureau written by
00:03:17.100 Sam Cooper. So Champagne here says, met with Minister Lan Foen for a valuable discussion
00:03:24.860 on strengthening our engagement on macroeconomic policy and financial ties. Canada's economy is
00:03:30.820 strong and resilient, with world-class sectors that position us as a trusted partner for investment
00:03:36.040 and sustainable growth. Why do we need closer financial ties, though? I could see them even
00:03:43.120 arguing, hey, well, if we're trading less with the United States because of the tariffs, we have to
00:03:47.300 send the product somewhere. I'm fine with trading more with China where it makes sense to. If this
00:03:53.200 lumber or this X or Y product or resource is going to get the most money shipping it to China
00:03:58.920 compared to the Philippines, Australia, New Zealand, the UK, fair enough. If the US is not
00:04:04.520 an option, then maybe you can send it to China. That's okay. But I don't want our financial
00:04:10.300 system's ties to be closer. It is a country that our prime minister had literally said is our
00:04:16.520 biggest national security threat. But when Carney went there, you'll remember he even said on
00:04:21.400 national security policies or on national security issues, we need closer ties with China.
00:04:27.180 Nay, nay. No, we do not. In fact, we should probably have more of a distant relationship
00:04:32.180 when it comes to security with China, seeing as they try and rig our elections. They were
00:04:36.240 operating clandestine police stations in our country, and they harassed Chinese dissidents
00:04:40.740 in our country because they said bad things about the government. I'm pretty sure we do not want to
00:04:46.040 do that. But that was the first post that Francois had made while he was over there. I believe I have
00:04:51.520 them in order here. Here's the second one he had. I'm obviously cutting out all the English or the
00:04:56.600 the French posts. And he says here, as Canada is diversifying its trade, our financial services
00:05:02.880 industry has a key role to play. Great meeting with Canada financial institutions operating in
00:05:08.540 China to better understand the challenges and opportunities they face on the ground. Yes,
00:05:13.940 let's get Canada and Canadian banks more tied in with the Chinese government.
00:05:19.740 Champagne here then says, this morning with the governor of Pan of People's Bank of China and
00:05:24.680 Governor Macklem, we've launched the Canada-China Financial Working Group, an important renewal
00:05:30.740 of the financial sector policy dialogue between our two countries. We're strengthening our
00:05:35.680 economic relationship, advancing multi-lateral cooperation, sorry, I'm not sure why I couldn't
00:05:43.420 say that for a second, and delivering on the roadmap to set by Prime Minister Carney and
00:05:47.820 President Xi in January. Now, with the whole, with creating this Canada-China financial working
00:05:54.620 group, I have a speculation that they're going to make it far easier for Chinese firms to buy up
00:06:01.380 property as well as resource projects in Canada. That is not just trading more with China. That is
00:06:08.460 letting China in the back door and being able to take over the living room. I don't want that to
00:06:13.460 happen. And we're going to be getting later into the Bureau article how China currently owns certain
00:06:18.440 strategic resources in Canada, and we haven't seemingly raised the alarm about it because,
00:06:25.040 again, the orange man made jokes about Canada, which means that we need to work with Xi Jinping
00:06:30.960 and the Communist Party of China. Anyways, so another post right here, we have Francois-Philippe
00:06:40.220 champagne saying this at his meeting in beijing he says in beijing met with vice premier he life
00:06:46.060 uh leafing to discuss global macroeconomic developments and strengthening canada china
00:06:52.020 the strengthening canada china economic ties we just discussed expanding two-way trade and
00:06:58.140 investment including in financial services and advancing cooperation in areas of shared economic
00:07:03.620 interest i extended an invitation for the vice premier to visit canada this fall um apparently
00:07:09.800 this is all good stuff. Apparently, us opening our economy for more Chinese government financing
00:07:15.960 is a good thing, because there's no such thing as a private firm in China that is actually
00:07:22.100 successful, in terms of successful on a grand scale. Yeah, if you run a food stall in Beijing,
00:07:29.400 if you run a small electronic store, government might leave you alone. But if you actually have
00:07:35.280 a factory that ships overseas, your company is large enough, you are integrated into the Chinese
00:07:41.340 Communist Party system, the United Workers Front, the United Work Front Department, all that stuff.
00:07:47.720 If you're big enough, this is why billionaires frequently go missing in China. Because if you
00:07:52.740 are offside with the Chinese government, and you're running one of their large firms,
00:07:57.720 you will go missing. You are only as private as the Chinese government lets you be. And you're not,
00:08:03.100 And that means you're not private at all. You are a public entity being run based on free market principles. That is it. But the Chinese government always legs behind everyone else's, even though, in theory, they should be jumping way ahead because of the socialist system hacked on top of the capitalist system that they're trying to use internationally.
00:08:24.400 Anyways, so that should be it for the actual posts from Francois Philippe Champagne, our finance minister. I now want to jump over to the press conference that he had. It was really oddly recorded. Like, he's doing like a Zoom call or something like that for his press conference.
00:08:43.520 Now, I understand that Canadian reporters can't go all the way to China, but it was, like, oddly low quality.
00:08:49.300 Like, he's just sitting in this room with, like, some text cut off on his right shoulder and just answering questions on a very, very low quality Zoom call.
00:08:59.560 But here is a question I actually believe from my friend Raheem Mohamed working at the National Post, asking him whether or not he actually brought up forced labor.
00:09:09.100 Hello, Minister Champagne. Happy Good Friday. Hope you're well.
00:09:13.220 Yeah, thank you very much. I know it's early for you, but it's late for me.
00:09:16.780 Yeah, no, it's fine. Rahim Abba, National Post. During your visit to China, have you at all discussed the issue of forced labor or more broadly, human rights related issues?
00:09:32.960 We did speak about supply chain integrity.
00:09:36.060 not the question did you talk about forced labor supply chain integrity i i don't i don't care
00:09:43.560 about if a couple boxes of triscuits are going missing between beijing and canada i know those
00:09:48.660 things are probably not made there but you get my point supply chain integrity supply chain
00:09:54.060 integrity i say again supply chain integrity that doesn't sound like the question about
00:09:58.680 forced labor. Let's go back a little bit here. We did speak about supply chain integrity.
00:10:07.380 That was a core message that I conveyed to our Chinese counterpart to say that obviously
00:10:15.900 Canada puts a lot of importance on supply chain integrity and that our bilateral trade need to
00:10:23.800 be conducted in accordance with international standards so this is a point that i made very
00:10:28.680 clearly uh to uh different counterparts that we've met here in china during our visit
00:10:37.400 thank you what was that like that was nothing like so apparently francois-philippe champaign
00:10:45.640 wants us to just buy the idea that he really stuck kept put their feet to the fire on the
00:10:51.080 issue of forced labor and child labor so like apparently the scenario goes like this based on
00:10:57.720 his telling of it because he was vague on details for a reason let's be clear he said nothing he
00:11:03.880 said absolutely nothing at best he walked into the room and with the vice premier he looked at
00:11:09.960 him in the eyes like this mr premier um canada values integrity of the supply chain uh and we
00:11:19.640 we like international supply chain standards enforced.
00:11:25.920 We do.
00:11:27.640 He didn't ask him anything about China.
00:11:29.800 He's just like, we like not forced labor.
00:11:34.220 He didn't even use that word.
00:11:36.080 But he just walks in and basically says,
00:11:37.820 we don't like bad stuff as a country.
00:11:40.780 And then he sits down and says nothing
00:11:43.020 because his Chinese masters do not like him talking too much.
00:11:46.120 That was a non-response.
00:11:48.480 There's nothing there.
00:11:49.640 please unmute yourself I think we have another question here that might be good but I'll never
00:11:56.660 underestimate the media not asking good questions but that was a great question from Raheem Muhammad
00:12:01.040 at the National Post good morning Minister Champagne yes it's fairly evening for me but
00:12:09.320 I know it's morning for you yeah not too early anyway though yesterday you may have seen Pierre
00:12:17.300 Paul, you have saying the Conservatives want to see the government get rid of taxes on
00:12:21.540 gasoline for the remainder of the year, just citing the conflict of Iran and the issues
00:12:25.140 in the Strait of Four Moves. We've previously seen the Liberal government bring on a tax
00:12:29.900 holiday when affordability was challenged. I was looking at the pre-break meals, restaurant
00:12:35.700 and liquor tax holiday last year. Is doing a bit of a tax holiday for gas something the
00:12:43.080 government is open to at this point, just given the price shocks we're seeing and the broader
00:12:47.460 affordability challenges across Canada. Now, I actually like this question. I know it's not
00:12:51.920 China related, but he is the finance minister. I actually, this journalist, I don't know what
00:12:56.140 the person's name is. I will find your name one day, but I will praise you briefly here.
00:13:01.560 I've praised him, but that was very good. He actually brought up the fact that they removed
00:13:06.820 taxes this last Christmas or the one Trudeau was still around in 24, which was Mark Carney's
00:13:12.080 suggestion of eliminating the GST and PST on certain items, including liquor. That was something
00:13:18.360 they did, citing that it was the need to help Canadians with the cost of the holidays. So
00:13:23.180 holidays in 2024 were deemed a big enough reason to cut the GST and HST, just to eliminate on
00:13:28.980 certain things, certain groceries, certain types of retail goods, alcohol, all that. Now, people
00:13:34.880 are hurting in the regular year because gas prices are massively high. And Polya has hit
00:13:42.060 the idea of getting rid of the gas taxes other than the GST. GST can maybe stay, but the other
00:13:47.100 gas taxes like the clean fuel standard and other ones, they need to go. Get rid of the industrial
00:13:51.320 carbon tax, get rid of the clean fuel standard, which is basically just the replacement for the
00:13:55.460 carbon tax. Do all that stuff. What is his answer to that? Well, thank you for your question. As you
00:14:01.980 know, we've done a lot on affordability. It's always top of mind. I mean, we've done that on
00:14:06.020 the grocery side. We've done that with respect to early learning and childcare. We've done that
00:14:12.840 with a number of benefits that we have provided to Canadians because the point was about kind of
00:14:19.200 providing them a boost and a bridge until circumstances and the growth that we expect
00:14:25.480 in the Canadian economy would materialize. We're monitoring the situation very carefully. You know,
00:14:32.540 we had a G7 call with finance minister, energy minister, the International Monetary Fund,
00:14:38.900 the World Bank, the International Energy Agency, and the OECD. And honestly, it is a very volatile
00:14:47.440 and fast-changing set of circumstances. Everyone is looking at what would be the duration of the
00:14:54.600 conflict in the Middle East. I'm getting the impression, I'm getting the distinct impression
00:14:59.040 here, he might not actually answer the question. But don't worry, guys, he's monitoring the
00:15:03.780 situation. He started going about how, oh, of course, we take affordability very seriously
00:15:09.280 and all this stuff. No, no, you don't, because a proposal was just put in front of you that
00:15:14.760 actually wouldn't really affect the government revenues that much because the government
00:15:17.860 gets a fixed amount of revenue per liter based on the clean fuel standard, as well as based on
00:15:23.600 other gas taxes. But the thing is that the GST applies after all of those fees are applied to
00:15:31.200 the price of gas, which is already going up because of limited supply because of the war in
00:15:34.800 Iran. So we have gas that in some jurisdictions, where I live, it's like 176, although in Calgary,
00:15:41.760 that's very high. In basically Victoria that I just came back from, it was like 21. It was a lot.
00:15:48.600 So how about we can keep the GST on because the prices are already high, but how do we take the
00:15:53.120 seven cents a liter off for the clean fuel standard and some of the other taxes that would
00:15:56.780 take a total of 25 off and then that allows it to balance the government's still getting the
00:16:02.120 revenues it assumed it was getting before the iran war spiked the price and people get cheaper fuel
00:16:07.440 the man cannot answer it the man cannot do it uh what would be the impact on the primary uh prices
00:16:15.940 with respect to diesel jet fuel uh home eating oil and obviously gasoline so we're monitoring
00:16:24.440 i would say at this particular point of time what we're doing is monitoring the situation
00:16:28.680 across the country uh looking at the refining capacity that we're seeing uh and the prices
00:16:35.820 associated with that and and also consulting with our other g7 partner because um like i said this
00:16:43.580 is a very complex set of circumstances oh my goodness he started talking about consulting and
00:16:49.080 he sounds like a consultant all all he and his other consultant friends are basically doing
00:16:53.960 is they check in they re-engage they circle back and then they do it all again like what is this
00:17:00.200 we're not actually saying anything here but this is getting me off the topic of china i'm sorry
00:17:04.640 but now let's get over to this article from the bureau written by i believe this one is written
00:17:10.740 by sam cooper as well but this isn't something that we need to like go in depth on but it's just
00:17:16.080 a point we don't need to read all the the information on this but over here he's talking
00:17:21.780 about the beaver brook mine in newfoundland it is the only adamoni mine in canada and china
00:17:28.740 currently owns it like that is a big problem in the arctic we have certain mines that were being
00:17:35.400 sold to china in the lower mainland as well as the rest of british columbia we have first nation
00:17:40.680 bands who have a China strategy where they are more open to actually allowing Chinese firms that
00:17:46.600 come in and extract minerals and export them exclusively back to China, then we have First
00:17:51.780 Nation bands allowing Western, you know, Canadian or American firms come in because fundamentally
00:17:57.700 a lot of the First Nation band councils and chiefs are a bunch of leftists and they would rather work
00:18:03.320 with the anti-colonial force of communist China locking up hundreds of thousands of Uyghurs and
00:18:09.560 trying to get rid of them all rather work with those people literally in their own documents
00:18:13.720 they say oh chinese people have also been affected by the state of canada negatively at times they're
00:18:19.280 bringing up things about chinese exclusion act and the railway okay that happened how long ago
00:18:24.540 was that and does it have any bearing on communist china right now trying to buy up our resources to
00:18:30.240 gain leverage in international politics like oh my goodness people we have a bunch of projects
00:18:36.460 being built up north into Nunavut and the Northwest Territories in areas where China
00:18:41.740 is basically trying to buy up mines and other oil and gas projects. The Canadian government
00:18:46.780 is going to build a $900 million highway into Nunavut that they have even admitted that there
00:18:53.280 was not the private need for before. The private sector didn't want to pay for it. Apparently we
00:18:58.540 can't have the government support a pipeline that is guaranteed to make money, but we can spend $900
00:19:04.200 million dollars on a highway that would mainly benefit some small Canadian firms as well as
00:19:10.500 Chinese firms. You can't make the stuff up. But anyways, that should be it for this video today,
00:19:17.380 or is it? Actually, know what, guys, I need to bring up the dumbest thing I've seen today,
00:19:21.980 and it came courtesy of one of the people who currently works on Caroline Elliott's BC
00:19:26.980 conservative leadership campaign. It's proving that just because you say you're part of the
00:19:31.300 conservative movement does not actually mean you're conservative. Not only is Caroline Elliott
00:19:35.420 an obvious liberal, she was the vice president of the Liberal Party between 2022 and 2024. She was
00:19:41.880 actually the one who pitched changing the name of the party in 23 to BC United. She's a liberal
00:19:47.520 through and through. She was the vice president of a party that was pro-SOGI, that was pro-Safe
00:19:53.060 Supply, that was pro-DRIPA, but now apparently she's the opposite of all those things. Although
00:19:58.320 her solution on First Nations Aboriginal land title claims is that we need to engage in the
00:20:03.620 treaty process. That is so asinine it will take me another video to explain it. You are not going
00:20:09.940 to get First Nation groups signing deals to, you know, to basically sell off land in treaties like
00:20:15.600 they did in Alberta. That was something they did in the 1870s and 80s, where the stakes were far
00:20:21.500 lower. You can't do that now when these people are already making potentially billions over the next
00:20:27.500 few decades based on the powers that DRIPA gives them, they're not going to sign that away for
00:20:32.400 anything because right now they have the best deal possible. You're not going to get them to sign
00:20:36.800 any treaty that isn't going to be a glorified form of extortion in and of itself. You'd have
00:20:42.540 to give them billions per tribe just to get them to back off. But anyways, but here is the
00:20:48.540 communications person for the Caroline Elliott BC conservative leadership campaign. Anthony Koch
00:20:54.740 said quebec is the most conservative province in the country properly understood too few people
00:21:00.840 understand this this because they think exclusively in economic terms no no not on economics not on
00:21:09.520 social policy not on cultural policy quebec is not a conservative province he and some of these
00:21:15.180 other guys from without diminishment the kind of like fake faux edgy new right without diminishment
00:21:21.040 crew, they're all trying to talk about why classical liberalism is actually bad.
00:21:25.920 Classical liberalism being the things that people like Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan
00:21:30.360 believed in, you know, Brian Mulroney to a certain extent.
00:21:34.640 Classical liberalism is, in fact, conservatism.
00:21:37.780 It's like the economic policies of, like, Thomas Sowell with the social policies of,
00:21:43.040 like, Ronald Reagan.
00:21:44.320 What are you talking about?
00:21:45.800 That's so dumb.
00:21:46.720 like but i had to respond to this because this was patently insane and i even had people like
00:21:53.600 pretending like i wasn't engaging in his argument but i absolutely did here my response to this was
00:21:58.360 no not only is quebec among the most socialistic provinces on a provincial level but they enforce
00:22:04.720 an anti-liberty version of secularism which is why the bloc quebecois voted for the for bill c9
00:22:10.540 and got the religious exemption removed from it. Bill C-9 is that hate bill that's supposed to
00:22:16.440 protect people from people stoking up hatred in the country. Now, we already have every law
00:22:22.740 against people directly inciting violence. We don't need new laws like Bill C-9. It's terrible.
00:22:27.860 But at one point, it had a secular, it had a religious exemption in it that you can't prosecute
00:22:32.400 someone from reading a passage of the Bible that someone else, you know, ruffles somebody else's
00:22:36.880 feathers. The Bloc Québécois forced the liberals to take the religious exemption out because from
00:22:42.820 apparently Anthony Caution's perspective, they are from the most conservative province in the
00:22:47.860 country on non-economic levels. And so they were just enforcing the very conservative notion of
00:22:53.680 having no religious freedom. So, and then I went on to say, look at the lockdowns and mandates in
00:23:00.460 Quebec. The corporate faux edgy new right guys running Caroline Elliott's BC conservative campaign
00:23:05.840 are fundamentally anti-conservative. Pushing big state modern liberalism as conservatism
00:23:11.540 is patently insane, and just because a bad big government idea is old doesn't make it
00:23:17.240 conservative to support. If you push the idea that protecting progressive secularized French culture
00:23:23.040 in Quebec equals conservative, then Victoria is upholding its insane progressive culture
00:23:28.260 is also, in a certain sense, conservative. I also went on to clarify as well,
00:23:32.820 I agree with Quebec enforcing strict immigration standards and keeping people who will not
00:23:38.960 assimilate out, but that doesn't make it conservative or else communist China is
00:23:43.200 conservative. If you don't know, communist China, in fact, has very strict immigration rules. It is
00:23:48.260 extremely difficult to become a permanent resident or a citizen of China, and they have even very
00:23:53.620 limited amounts of temporary foreign workers allowed into the country. And I went on to say
00:23:58.120 pretty sure the Khmer Rouge and Democratic Kampuchea also had a low view of immigrants.
00:24:03.960 So yeah, I can't stand what I would call kind of this new right, woke right kind of thing,
00:24:11.620 where it actually, if you think about it, is conservative to be in favor of big government
00:24:16.320 policies, as long as we have some artificial culturally conservative flavors added in.
00:24:21.860 Guys, I am a fiscal conservative, a cultural conservative, and a social conservative. I am pro-life. I am pro-free market. I want much lower immigration. I want to make sure to deport people who are exploiting our social services and who are just completely culturally incompatible with this country but are not citizens.
00:24:40.920 You know, people who are supporting terrorist groups should have the permanent residencies removed and kicked out. Even citizenships, in certain cases, should be removed if it's proven that the person lied in order to become a citizen.
00:24:52.200 Listen, I am very conservative, and I do not want people watering conservatism down into being pro-tariff, anti-free market, as long as we sort of post about how much we like religion on social media every once in a while to signal that we're trad conservative dudes.
00:25:10.840 You're not. You're not.
00:25:12.760 I could say you get these same people who are like saying, well, it's actually good to be an isolationist or it's good to basically be in favor of Iran winning the war in Iran because the Pope said so.
00:25:23.260 Just in case you weren't thinking the Pope was stupid, he came out to say that fighting wars means that God won't listen to your prayers.
00:25:29.880 Thank you, Pope. You are very much reinforcing why I'm a Baptist here.
00:25:34.680 I'm pretty sure it's okay to kill members of the IRGC, killing tens of thousands of their own people, as well as others in and around the Middle East. My goodness.
00:25:44.820 Anyways, so that is my rant for today. With all that being said, thank you guys for watching.
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