The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - October 17, 2024


Liberal MP calls for Trudeau to resign - the coup starts!


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Sean Casey says Justin Trudeau should resign as Liberal Party Leader, but Anthony Housefather won't say whether or not he thinks it's a good idea. Plus, a list of other Liberal MPs who think Trudeau should go.

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00:00:00.000 Guys, it's finally happened.
00:00:02.660 A federal liberal MP has gained the courage necessary to say that Justin Trudeau is unpopular
00:00:08.160 and Justin Trudeau should resign as the Liberal Party leader.
00:00:12.740 Or maybe it wasn't the courage necessary, it might have been the fear necessary.
00:00:17.280 Because Sean Casey here, the MP for the riding of Charlottetown,
00:00:21.240 is being projected to get smoked by his conservative opponents.
00:00:25.900 So maybe he only finally came out and said the bleeding obvious
00:00:29.280 because he knows if Trudeau sticks around as the Liberal Party leader,
00:00:33.620 there is no chance he is going to get back into office after the 2025 election.
00:00:39.900 This isn't that surprising.
00:00:41.560 I think eventually the Liberal Party caucus had to at least attempt a palace coup against Justin Trudeau
00:00:48.080 because although they're probably going to lose the next federal election anyways,
00:00:52.960 in some of these maritime ridings or Ontario ridings or ridings out in British Columbia,
00:00:57.940 they might be able to hold on to their own riding if Justin Trudeau moves on.
00:01:02.740 I don't think that Mark Carney or Chrystia Freeland taking the reins of the party
00:01:06.620 is going to do anything for them on a macro level.
00:01:09.520 But on a riding-to-riding level, Justin Trudeau is the main reason
00:01:14.280 people will not cast ballots anymore for the Liberal Party of Canada.
00:01:18.120 And I'm enjoying myself watching this all happen because, as you all know, I am a conservative.
00:01:23.620 Although I also think that, although it's probably good for the conservatives
00:01:27.460 if Trudeau sticks around for the next election because it guarantees the Liberals lose by massive margins,
00:01:32.940 I think it's good for the country if the Liberal Party, you know,
00:01:37.300 moves a little bit towards the rational side of things and realizes Trudeau sucks
00:01:41.620 and they need to get rid of him, gets rid of the carbon tax maybe from their platform,
00:01:45.400 you know, cracks down on crime the way that John Kretchen did.
00:01:49.260 Just do basic stuff that middle-class people want.
00:01:53.200 I don't really think this is going to help them if he steps down.
00:01:55.880 Maybe in some of these marginal ridings, they might be able to hold on to a few more
00:01:59.960 in these areas where the conservatives are gaining since
00:02:02.860 there's nobody who can take over this party.
00:02:06.220 None of the people in caucus right now or Mark Carney are popular enough
00:02:10.220 to actually give the Liberal Party a boost.
00:02:12.060 But in the Maritimes, again, in southwest Ontario, they might be able to retain a few extra seats.
00:02:18.740 But it's not just Sean Casey saying this.
00:02:21.620 While he's the only one saying that Justin Trudeau should resign formally,
00:02:26.000 other MPs are giving very strong indications that they think that Trudeau needs to move on.
00:02:31.920 I think the top of the list in terms of sounding the alarm that Trudeau needs to go
00:02:37.720 is Anthony Housefather here, who in this interview with Vashi Capellos on CTV News
00:02:43.260 doesn't say that Trudeau should resign, but refuses to say whether or not he thinks
00:02:47.720 it's a good idea for Trudeau to resign or not.
00:02:50.720 Before I let you go, Mr. Housefather, you used the phrase speaking truth to power
00:02:54.980 in certainly every Liberal MP who makes himself available to us.
00:02:58.440 I think I need to ask for the record.
00:03:00.800 I know you're familiar.
00:03:01.700 I imagine you're familiar with the prospect of a group of members of Parliament set to
00:03:05.040 ask the Prime Minister to reconsider his future leading your party.
00:03:09.280 Are you aware of that letter or pledge?
00:03:12.840 I'm happy to talk to you about that separately, but I'm not going to diminish the issue of
00:03:16.280 Sam Adoun by swinging onto something partisan.
00:03:20.120 That's not what today is about.
00:03:21.880 Well, I'm certainly not trying to diminish the issue.
00:03:24.420 We just spent 10 minutes talking about it.
00:03:26.280 But notice there, also the uncomfortable laugh, I just noticed here, but notice there,
00:03:30.880 alongside the uncomfortable laugh, that he didn't say like other Liberal MPs were saying
00:03:36.020 that there's no list.
00:03:37.100 Nobody's signing anything against Trudeau.
00:03:38.780 We all love him and we think he can somehow be pure poly of in 2025, which is delusional.
00:03:44.040 But he's not saying that.
00:03:45.560 All Anthony Housefather is saying is, I don't want to talk about that today.
00:03:49.040 So there is a list.
00:03:50.260 Because if there wasn't a list, you'd just say, no, there's nothing going on there.
00:03:53.300 Now let's celebrate us listing Sam Adoun as a terrorist organization, which actually indeed 0.60
00:03:58.100 is a good win.
00:03:59.140 If there's one Liberal MP I can kind of respect, it's Anthony Housefather, even though I vehemently
00:04:04.480 disagree with him on pretty much every issue.
00:04:07.060 I think he's at least somebody who thinks somewhat rationally.
00:04:10.720 He's like the one Liberal MP who's Jewish who hasn't embarrassed himself yet by embracing
00:04:15.540 a literal terrorist the way that Yara Sachs has.
00:04:18.460 And this entire interview is exuding the fact that not only is there a list, I now believe
00:04:24.680 that Anthony Housefather was probably on it, asking for Justin Trudeau to resign behind
00:04:29.900 the scenes.
00:04:30.540 My question to you, I mean, you have voiced your concern about the Prime Minister's actions,
00:04:36.320 the federal government's actions on that one issue.
00:04:39.380 But separate and apart from that, is your support of the Prime Minister, do you still support
00:04:46.840 the Prime Minister?
00:04:48.460 Again, I think that they're two different questions, right?
00:04:51.140 He doesn't say yes.
00:04:52.220 Even if he does say yes later in this, he didn't say yes right away.
00:04:56.020 It's so obvious that these people hate Trudeau's guts these days.
00:05:00.120 Maybe they used to like him.
00:05:01.240 I have no doubt that Anthony Housefather and Trudeau were somewhat friends.
00:05:05.060 But at this point, I think they probably hate how just delusional Trudeau is, thinking he
00:05:10.060 can keep jamming on the same stupid social issues, cutting videos saying, check your bank
00:05:14.900 account today, we just gave you a carbon tax rebate, and that's going to save him.
00:05:18.660 It's not.
00:05:19.720 And people like Anthony Housefather know it.
00:05:22.060 I support whoever is the leader of my party at all.
00:05:24.640 Oh my goodness.
00:05:26.560 That's a little bit of an indicator.
00:05:28.340 Times.
00:05:28.740 But that doesn't mean there shouldn't be a robust caucus discussion about who the best
00:05:32.080 person to lead us in the next election is.
00:05:33.660 And that discussion should happen in caucus.
00:05:35.560 It shouldn't happen in the media.
00:05:37.560 So do I take that as your part of that discussion?
00:05:42.140 I certainly hope the entire caucus and the prime minister are part of that discussion.
00:05:45.520 It's discussions that are ongoing and should happen in every party at all times, right?
00:05:49.820 Every party wants to win the next election.
00:05:52.460 And you've got to talk about what is the best way for us to win the next election, the best
00:05:57.100 way for us to do well, the best way for us to respond to Canadians.
00:06:00.400 And those are discussions, I think, that should happen within caucus.
00:06:03.800 And that's where I intend to have those discussions.
00:06:09.400 Does anyone think that Anthony Housefather currently likes Justin Trudeau as the leader
00:06:14.080 or he would want him kicked out?
00:06:16.340 And he's, Justin Trudeau, if there's any liberal MP, he is embarrassed more.
00:06:21.440 It's Anthony Housefather.
00:06:22.520 All the stupid things Anthony Housefather has had to do, pretending that he's like somewhat
00:06:27.060 pro-Hamas to please the pro-Hamas base.
00:06:29.860 When you know that Anthony Housefather, if there's one issue he agrees with the conservatives
00:06:33.360 on, it's that, you know, terrorists are terrorists and that we shouldn't embrace them as a country.
00:06:38.320 But the Liberal Party has become the pro-terror party alongside the NDP as well in embracing
00:06:43.460 every single terrorist movement around Canada.
00:06:46.400 The Khalistanis, Hamas, Hezbollah, Samadu.
00:06:49.540 The only reason the government banned Samadu is to slightly distance themselves from all the
00:06:54.040 radicals that the liberals, the NDP, had been courting over the past year.
00:06:57.840 Dude, Anthony Housefather probably left that interview just to go sharpen his knives just
00:07:02.760 a little bit more before he goes in for the kill with other MPs on Trudeau.
00:07:07.800 Because Trudeau is making sure all of these people in traditionally liberal stronghold ridings
00:07:13.900 have a very good chance of losing re-election.
00:07:16.840 Currently, Anthony Housefather's riding in Montreal, Mount Royal, is actually on the table for the
00:07:24.220 conservatives to win.
00:07:25.020 It's like one of the few Montreal ridings that wouldn't go block or NDP would go conservative.
00:07:29.520 It's his because of how much the Liberal Party and Justin Trudeau have ticked off the
00:07:33.720 Jewish community there.
00:07:34.840 That's also what happened in Toronto St. Paul.
00:07:37.080 It was a riding that there was a significant Jewish population in who mostly voted liberal.
00:07:43.140 And after the Liberal Party and Trudeau and especially Yara Sachs and Melanie Jolie started
00:07:48.740 bear-hugging Hamas and the Palestinian Authority, they finally had enough with Trudeau.
00:07:53.700 They were already voters who probably didn't like the Liberals super like a lot on economic
00:07:58.220 issues.
00:07:58.680 But it's like such a traditionally liberal voting demographic group in a very liberal
00:08:04.260 voting riding.
00:08:05.540 It's hard to break that habit.
00:08:07.000 It wasn't even a riding the conservatives needed.
00:08:08.840 But the conservatives are winning them.
00:08:10.580 Because of how badly the Liberals have just alienated people in favor of far left progressives.
00:08:16.960 They're fighting over the same voters that the Greens and the NDP are going for.
00:08:20.240 There's like 10% of the population of Canada that there are three big parties, major parties
00:08:25.540 who can win seats, just fighting tooth and nail for their votes, even though there's like
00:08:29.940 90% of the rest of the country willing to potentially vote for them if they just become somewhat
00:08:35.100 rational.
00:08:36.100 And hopefully the Liberal Party does that.
00:08:38.180 Because again, although I've heard, and I've said this before in other videos, I know that
00:08:42.540 there's people inside the federal Conservative Party who want Justin Trudeau to stick around
00:08:46.980 as the leader because it makes the Liberals easier to beat.
00:08:50.320 Guys, please stop trying to play on easy mode.
00:08:53.980 The Conservative Party of Canada needs to learn how to win elections, not just wait for the
00:08:59.500 Liberals to lose them.
00:09:00.800 Because even this election, this upcoming election, no matter who the Liberals are going
00:09:04.600 to run as their leader, if they stick with Trudeau or they go with someone else like
00:09:07.740 Mark Carney, they're going to lose.
00:09:09.780 But the Conservatives should have won in 21.
00:09:12.340 They should have won in 19.
00:09:13.560 In fact, they probably shouldn't have lost in 2015.
00:09:16.920 They should have been able to win these.
00:09:18.360 But I don't like the stupid mentality inside the Conservative Party of just hoping the Liberals
00:09:22.880 make bad choices so that we win.
00:09:25.140 I actually want the Liberal Party to not only get Justin Trudeau out as leader, pick a more
00:09:31.020 rational, centrist leader who people can at least somewhat respect.
00:09:35.480 I won't vote for the guy, but he reminds me a little bit of Jean Chrétien.
00:09:39.120 Even though I wouldn't vote for Jean Chrétien, he at least understands that you can't spend
00:09:42.780 us into a debt spiral.
00:09:45.340 You can't let criminals go free.
00:09:47.340 You can't embrace terrorist groups.
00:09:49.260 You can't push the most crazy woke policies.
00:09:52.940 Because the Conservatives will actually need to get better at running elections.
00:09:56.740 And I'm not going after the Conservatives here and like, oh, I hate them kind of way.
00:10:01.280 I'm very friendly with like 99% of people in the party.
00:10:03.740 But the people in the strategy and comms department of the federal party need to get better at
00:10:09.020 doing what they do.
00:10:10.040 Because beating people like Trudeau in 25 is not an accomplishment.
00:10:14.920 It's pretty much just inheriting the government from the dumbest person on the planet.
00:10:19.240 I want to win.
00:10:20.460 I don't want to just have the Liberals lose and then we just kind of pick up the crown
00:10:24.920 from the gutter and then put it on ourselves.
00:10:27.560 Let's beat a Liberal that's worth beating, not somebody who's not even barely competing
00:10:32.700 like Justin Trudeau at this point.
00:10:34.120 So I hope that the Liberals actually get rid of this chump and they put in somebody less 1.00
00:10:39.960 crazy.
00:10:40.600 Because wouldn't it be marvelous if we had multiple rational options on the ballot again?
00:10:45.460 That if you vote for the Liberals or the Conservatives, they all are decently fiscally rational, that
00:10:51.120 they're socially rational.
00:10:52.520 I want no woke parties to exist.
00:10:54.880 I want the Green Party to be rational.
00:10:56.900 I want the NDP to be rational.
00:10:58.800 Let's go back to the era where those parties, I might not agree with their agenda, but they're
00:11:03.820 rational and they don't do things against the evidence.
00:11:07.900 They don't keep pushing higher taxes and bigger, more bloated programs when it's not working.
00:11:12.720 They do something different.
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