In this episode, I show you an interview on the CBC with Liberal House Leader Steve McKinnon where he just flatly denies his own liberal government's economic data, and gets away with it in hilarious fashion. I mean, really?
00:01:47.120though that is statistics canada data which one isn't let's go back to what the host said
00:01:54.000and we'll take it point by point three of the last four core ticks for canadians he says
00:01:58.240unemployment is the second highest in the g7 many fact check true that is true i will bring it up
00:02:04.980on google right now so you can see the current list japan's unemployment rate ranges between
00:02:10.8402.3% 2.5% Germany 3.7 to 6.3 United States 4.2 to 4.3 UK 4.7 to 5.5 Italy 6.0 to 6.4 Canada 6.5 to 7.1
00:02:24.740and France 7.5 to 7.9 that is true we are the second highest in the G7 just a little bit behind
00:02:32.360France who is absolutely abysmal right now okay so let's move on to the next point there wasn't
00:02:39.320even that many points. It's not like he shotgunned out a bunch of points where you could have maybe
00:02:44.000assumed that Steve McKinnon meant like, you know, if the host rattled off like 10 points, he could
00:02:49.300say, yeah, maybe one or two of those. If you really squint, you could see how maybe it's not quite
00:02:53.560accurate. He listed three really just basic like stats about the Canadian economy. Next one.
00:03:02.080Young people in particular are struggling to find work.
00:03:04.820And that's true as well. Our youth unemployment rate is like above 10%. It's like 12% or like 14% or 15% for college-age men. It's absolutely abysmal, but we don't need to get into that one.
00:03:16.440It's been negative economic growth in three of the last four quarters. Food inflation is high.
00:03:21.240Yes, that is all true. Let's just look up food inflation in Canada. Food inflation in Canada, I'm just using just basic AI searches because if anything, that's going to be the best search because this is the most generic information you can find.
00:03:37.800Food inflation in Canada hovered near 3.8 to 4.4 percent year over year. That is absolutely abysmal
00:03:45.900at the same time our actual GDP is shrinking. Is it shrinking by much? Well, no. It's shrinking by
00:03:54.460like 0.1 or 0.2 percent. But we shouldn't be shrinking. We should be growing. And they'll say,
00:04:01.820well, it's because immigration is going down. Okay, so we have revealed that the economy has
00:04:06.380always been in a recession, but simply importing people in the country has kept the GDP number
00:04:11.560slowly climbing up a little bit. If we're only going up, if we were previously only going up by
00:04:17.280like one or one and a half percent in previous years, because we were importing hundreds of
00:04:21.860thousands of people, that is a terrible economy. And I would even need to fact check the other one
00:04:27.680about the last three quarters or out of the last four quarters, we've had three of them have been
00:04:32.080negative in terms of GDP growth. That is just a basic fact at this point. But the liberals,
00:04:37.300people like Steve McKinnon, simply hand wave them away and say, well, we're not in a real
00:04:41.800recession. They won't even say technical recession because they know that looks bad.
00:04:46.180They just pretend that, oh, it's just stagnant growth. Oh, we're in a transitionary period.
00:04:50.900So there were three claims made, and all three of them were absolutely correct. There was nothing
00:04:55.760that Steve McKinnon could dispute there. What is your defense? What do you say to your critics?
00:05:01.280well he's first of all uh not all of those uh figures are accurate what do you mean all those
00:05:07.200figures are accurate by the way our current unemployment is only 6.6 right now because of
00:05:12.720the census because of fifa because of the summer jobs boost yes every country gets a summer jobs
00:05:18.880boost pretty much but you're getting my point here we are this is an artificial low period right now
00:05:24.480for us, 6.6%, more than 2% higher unemployment rate than the United States right next to us.
00:05:31.6602% higher, more than 2% actually. And that's on top of the fact that we have our census going on
00:05:37.180right now that's massively employing a bunch of people in the public sector. We have FIFA going
00:05:42.820on, which you could say, well, America has it too. Yes, but per capita, FIFA helps Canada more than
00:05:48.600helps the United States because Canada, Mexico, and the United States all get one stadium. They
00:05:54.360all get a certain amount of games and naturally that's going to employ a higher rate of Canadians
00:05:59.720and it's going to hire people in the United States because that's a country of 340 million people
00:06:04.720and we're a country of 41 million people but let's keep moving on here so already terrible0.90
00:06:10.720interview for Steve McKinnon but he thinks the CBC crowd is dumb probably because there are
00:06:15.540certain people who watch the CBC who just kind of want to hear a liberal say everything's great0.88
00:06:19.940they'll buy it but steve mckinnon is just openly lying because the cbc lets him get away with it
00:06:25.300where is the cbc host by the way coming in to say which one of those is wrong that would be
00:06:30.820if you ask that one question he'd be destroyed he wouldn't know what to say but he knows this
00:06:35.380host will never ask second of all this is one of the most productive legislative sittings
00:06:40.500in recent memory including many measures that are designed specifically to help
00:06:45.620uh some of the people that he talks about when you think of the groceries and essentials benefit
00:06:50.440when you think about reducing the gst on uh on homes for first time home buyers when you think
00:06:56.260about reducing income taxes yes we did reduce income taxes notice how he had to repeat that
00:07:02.820part yes we did reduce income taxes because did they really reduce income taxes now like kind of
00:07:10.640they're going to be reducing income taxes by 1% on the first $50,000 that you make, which is
00:07:17.340not where the bulk of taxes in this country are paid. Not even close. You don't even pay taxes.
00:07:23.280I believe, what is the federal income tax exemption?
00:07:31.840The federal income tax exemption, I believe it's like, I can't find it that way, but it's like $18,000.
00:07:38.520So we are going to cut 1% off the income tax rate for the first $50,000, although no income taxes actually even apply the first $18,000.
00:07:48.680So from $18,001 up to $50,000, where you only pay like 8% or 10% at the moment, we're going to bump that down to 9%.
00:08:00.000And with the groceries essential benefit, it's like, okay, well, we've given the bottom 33% of income earners a GST rebate on 50% of the GST, basically, they would have normally paid at the grocery store. Okay, well, that's, you know, a few hundred dollars a year. Fair enough. I don't think any of those people are going to like, say that's bad. They'll take the money, obviously, they will.
00:08:21.260it's still going to increase inflation. And at the same time, you could have just cut taxes more,
00:08:27.900you could have just let people have more of their own money. And then he has to bring up again that
00:08:31.320we cut taxes when it's actually not even a percent yet. It's half a percent. In a couple more years,
00:08:36.400they will bump it up to 1%. But the amount of actual changes on affordability has been
00:08:44.120absolutely terrible. They've GST exempted some new homes. That's good. Fair enough. That's good.
00:08:50.360But this is so much cutting along the corners of problems rather than just dealing with the problem, which is kind of just out of step with the whole character that Mark Carney pretended to be when he was stepping into politics.
00:09:03.980He was going to be the financial guru to get us back on track.
00:09:09.640And he's like bumping us with a pencil slowly back towards the track.
00:09:13.920And maybe in 15 years, we'll have an economy growing at 2% again.
00:09:18.920maybe we won't have a deficit that's like 70 billion dollars a year and maybe we'll like yeah
00:09:26.240maybe our debt to gdp won't be as bad it's so such a sad pathetic type of a pitch by the liberals
00:09:33.700elect us and in 50 000 years things will be a little bit better and then when you consider that
00:09:41.220mr polyev and his entire caucus voted against virtually all of that so it's always been
00:09:48.140perplexing to me to hear Mr. Polyev evoke these themes and then systematically vote against some
00:09:57.340of the remedies and solutions that are proposed to deal with the very problems he purports to
00:10:03.120identify. Food inflation in many ways is because of government regulations, too much spending in
00:10:10.060economy like inflationary spending and taxes and the liberals barely reduced taxes and then they
00:10:18.300created programs that cost more money to give people some money back in order to fight inflation
00:10:24.940which is really just going to spur on more inflation the conservatives vote against it
00:10:29.580not because they want to help people but they want to help people the right way but it's always this
00:10:33.900pathetic government speak and even conservatives do it when they're in government about oh if you
00:10:38.780really cared about helping people you would be voting for everything we want you to vote for0.81
00:10:43.740well that's not how politics works and we're in a recession our food inflation is like the
00:10:48.860worst in the g7 so what's your excuse how are you actually going to make this the opposite
00:10:54.940next year where it's the best why is it aren't our why isn't our unemployment the best because
00:10:59.420guess what it could be the best our unemployment could be like maybe not as good as japan it's
00:11:04.140It's just a very homogenous country that has very low immigration.0.98
00:11:07.880So the amount of people and, you know, its population is going down.
00:11:10.980So naturally, pretty much every job is filled.
00:11:12.800But outside of Japan, we could be at 4% unemployment if we just slashed taxes and made the economy function again.
00:11:22.000This is a very intriguing, bewildering part of the House of Commons and of the dialogue that we have every day.
00:11:31.120you know when we get attacked with an unjustified trade war they say we're having a hissy fit when
00:11:38.360the prime minister is looking to grow our no jamil giovanni said that we shouldn't have an
00:11:43.560anti-american hissy fit in response to it because it's not helpful it doesn't get us anywhere which
00:11:49.600is fact check true jamil giovanni is right now the liberals are acting like oh he's attacking
00:11:55.960canadians for having a problem with tariffs jamil giovanni has a problem with tariffs his whole
00:12:00.380point is that the liberal government sitting around and whining about tariffs does not actually
00:12:04.780get us across the finish line to a deal. The liberals have been like systematically avoiding
00:12:09.040any good moves when it comes to trade negotiations, gaining leverage by making our economy better,
00:12:14.340cutting taxes and regulations to have more leverage. They're not actually getting to the
00:12:18.240table and making any demands. They're not making any concessions. All they're doing is whining.
00:12:22.760And you can say Trump put the tariffs in completely unjustly. I don't like the tariffs. I think they're
00:12:28.800mostly unjustified yes we've had tariffs on them through supply management and whatnot for a very
00:12:34.980long time but still not quite justified that could have been sorted out in its own negotiation
00:12:40.080without the tariffs but it's a reality now that there's tariffs what are you going to do about it
00:12:44.560because sitting around and just saying that they shouldn't exist isn't a solution our top line in
00:12:49.860terms of opportunities and investment and major projects uh and new business investment you know
00:12:56.220they say he's traveling too much um the the by the way our business investment is terrible
00:13:03.340it is down since the beginning of the year 0.7 percent and some people again will always say oh
00:13:08.700you're gonna you're gonna cry over spilled milk it's just 0.7 percent we should be growing the
00:13:13.820fact that we are retracting is insane but the liberals keep saying we just brought in 50
00:13:17.660billion more dollars into the economy but it's never true it's like some mou where they they
00:13:22.860sign an agreement with Qatar or the UAE saying, you know, one day, maybe we'll think about
00:13:28.960potentially giving $50 billion into your economy at some time in the future, or $50 billion and
00:13:34.640even that worth that much. The thing is that the reality always rubs up against the propaganda.
00:13:41.320And yet, Steve McKinnon had like the gall to come on. And when the host listed off
00:13:46.120Pollyov's complaints about the economy, said all those figures are wrong. We have still
00:13:50.240gotten radio silence from the host here saying, okay, well, you're value-hooing all of your
00:13:54.760achievements, but our food inflation is 4.4%. Our unemployment has been ranging between 6.5%
00:14:03.480and 7.1%. We did have three quarters of negative growth. So what do you say to that? He just let
00:14:09.920Steve McKinnon get away with lying and then pretending like just the government handing
00:14:15.200out money is like some massive win for the economy. The Conservatives have this bewildering
00:14:21.040set of policies where they seem to be against every possible solution to some of the issues
00:14:27.460that we face as a country. We think we're, and we're pretty confident that the issues that we've
00:14:33.700proposed have found a deep resonance among Canadians. The Conservatives are opposed not
00:14:37.680only to the content of your legislation, but also how you got it through in some instances. Let's
00:14:42.200talk about the tactics the government used to push some of this legislation through the House
00:14:45.880in this sitting. You relied on time allocation to shut down debate. By my count, I think the
00:14:50.920government invoked it seven times in the last month. We heard from Green Party leader Elizabeth
00:14:55.920May. She says that democracy is being disrespected. This is the worst she's seen from a government,
00:15:01.300and she's been here a while. Do you think you've been too heavy-handed?
00:15:05.780Well, first of all, I would question whether Ms. May actually believes that. Secondly,
00:15:10.400well let me give you one example by the again where that wasn't even a bad question by the
00:15:15.500host there but where's the host because i guarantee he's not going to step in and say
00:15:18.920well who are you to say i don't think may actually believes that what a what a lame thing to say
00:15:25.060during an interview somebody comes at you with an accusation that they think you are acting
00:15:29.840in very anti-democratic authoritarian ways in order to hammer legislation through
00:15:34.920in parliament not allowing for real debate to take place because you put like a very strict
00:15:39.320time allocation on it where debate doesn't really go anywhere and then you immediately go to a vote
00:15:43.960rather than actually having back and forth you know question and answer over new policies and
00:15:48.960the person brings up all these issues and you're like I don't think they really believe that like
00:15:53.120what an awful bad faith gaslighting way to just like dismiss all criticism next time Steve
00:15:59.520McKinnon or Mark Carney say anything somebody should just be like oh I don't think they really
00:16:03.780believe what they're saying which in a certain sense actually probably don't believe what they're
00:16:07.460saying most of the time when they're making excuses for bad policies. But like, what a stupid1.00
00:16:12.460Weasley thing to do. Yeah, whatever. I don't think Steve McKinnon believe what you just said there.1.00
00:16:19.320Lawful access. He actually believes that. Secondly, well, let me give you one example.
00:16:24.400Lawful access. An issue where Canada is the last country in the G7 to have a lawful access
00:16:31.180regime we've we made three separate attempts three attempts to be accommodating to listen to
00:16:38.280the variety of views but this is something that law enforcement tells us if we want to deal with
00:16:43.180extortion if we want to deal with uh sexual exploit exploitation child pornography this is
00:16:50.040an important thing to put in place support our law enforcement in that effort here's the thing
00:16:56.620bill c22 there is a good part to bill c22 part one and there is a bad part to bill c22 or two
00:17:04.860part one is effectively saying the police authorities have just caused to to basically
00:17:11.660demand records of searches of you know emails and whatnot of individuals that they have credible
00:17:19.660evidence that they already have evidence and allegations has committed a heinous crime and
00:17:24.620And an internet service provider or a VPN company might have to give you that.
00:17:29.820Part two, though, just gives the government just the ability to demand information from these companies for any reason, for whatever they want.
00:17:42.480There is the reasonable go get a warrant, go say that you need this for this, this, and this reason.
00:17:47.700And you can basically inquire about those specific things and nothing else.
00:17:51.460And then there is the phishing expedition.
00:17:53.100Part of Bill C-22, that every single civil liberties organization, all these VPN companies, a lot of other internet service providers are not happy with because it's just a massive violation of customer privacy.
00:18:06.88025 hours, JP, 25 hours spent at the public security committee.
00:18:40.480Committee chairs block questions or people start objecting to each other.
00:18:44.42025 hours for a piece of policy that is this broken and complicated is nothing.
00:18:51.400Filibuster. But the Conservatives have a choice.
00:18:53.980They can debate the issue for those 25 hours or they can waste it by using obstructive tactics.
00:19:01.780There is enough time on the House of Commons calendar between committees and the House of Commons itself to fully debate all of these views.
00:19:10.680The problem is all of that time gets chewed up with these dilatory and other tactics that the opposition parties like to play.
00:19:19.620they are frankly games and then we can we get like one example by the way steve and by the way
00:19:25.720i don't think steve believes what he's saying so dismiss everything he's saying based on the
00:19:31.240rules that steve mckinnon has laid out here play this game every time at the end of the session
00:19:36.280where yes uh we put in place measures to ensure these bills get a vote they get to a vote a
00:19:42.620democratic vote in the house of commons that's what's uh occurred here and uh it's a occurred
00:19:48.300to Canadians' benefit because we've put in place the most robust crime agenda in a generation,
00:19:54.400maybe in history, six or seven major criminal justice bills. The Liberal Party is the Law
00:20:02.220and Order Party. The party in power basically has to claim that it's anything that it gets passed.
00:20:09.340The thing is that the actual changes to the criminal code were needed, but really do not
00:20:15.120go far enough. There is still just a lot of gaps in the law when it comes to being able to hold
00:20:20.500violent offenders in prison. It still kind of is up to judges to determine whether or not people
00:20:26.460are going to be held. Yes, people are going to be held far more often now, but the idea that they
00:20:30.580get to take the mantle of the law and order party after letting criminals out for more than a decade
00:20:36.000here is just laughable. They should have to be honest here and actually say, we messed up and
00:20:42.020at least we're fixing it right now. That would be fine. I would accept that. But that's not what
00:20:46.280he's saying. He's just acting as if he showed up like he's Newt Gingrich and passed criminal
00:20:52.680justice reform in his first year in the House or something like that. No, no, you did not.
00:21:00.840Conservatives are the party that kind of deals with conspiracy theories now. It's
00:21:05.120very intriguing to me to watch the evolution of the Conservative Party away from, you know,
00:21:11.140this my whole life this law and order um uh cut the crime type party they've moved away from that
00:21:18.140how did they move away from that they've not moved away from that an inch it's in fact the
00:21:24.840party that is talking about potentially maybe and i hope that they do this because people are
00:21:29.540talking about online or a lot in conservative circles bring back the death penalty for serial
00:21:33.700murderers the conservatives are far more of a tough on crime party they're also a civil liberties
00:21:38.980party and they are do a better job of balancing it than the liberals do at any single task but
00:21:45.940whatever we don't even need to listen to steve mckinnon anymore because i actually want to jump
00:21:49.720over to elizabeth may because although i find elizabeth may and the green party typically1.00
00:21:55.140extremely tedious i actually thought she did a good breakdown here reacting to the way that the0.82
00:22:00.960liberals have been acting in parliament leading up to this last week where they just started
00:22:05.980shoving everything through the door i'd love to get all of your thoughts on this government's use
00:22:10.580of time allocation motions because i i mean you've all laid out various concerns you have with
00:22:16.500various bills that are that are sort of being rushed through but you know how do you balance
00:22:20.600that as well with the fact that there are only so many sitting days and you need to move things
00:22:25.600why are we in a rush right now we could add sitting days that's a discretionary choice
00:22:31.440we could use our time well we have and if we followed the rules of parliament which no one
00:22:37.440has for decades we could make parliament work more efficiently we could add more days if you
00:22:42.280need time to study bills and by the way you could even add days for just the committee to sit
00:22:49.900just the committee sits by itself for a week parliament can kind of be on almost part-time
00:22:55.900where only committees are meeting there's no real house business going on they could they could sign
00:23:00.940any agreement between the parties to say okay we won't have question period we won't have
00:23:05.380statements we won't have introductions in the house basically we we open parliament the speaker
00:23:10.400just declares what the committees are today everyone goes to committee rooms and we just
00:23:13.840debate for the next couple weeks and it would be pretty easy it's pretty small time stuff for most
00:23:19.720people to do and then when we're finished we can call parliament back to then do a vote we can
00:23:24.760literally call parliament back for a day to vote on all this stuff that would be fine but the
00:23:29.220liberals are acting like our hands are tied by government regulations. We can't do this because
00:23:34.100we don't have enough sitting days. It's like, well, who's in charge of determining the sitting
00:23:37.980days? The same person, Steve McKinnon, pretending that his hands are tied.
00:23:43.580And we're not getting it. This government, I mean, I decried the Harper administration's use
00:23:49.940of omnibus budget bills. It was appalling. And then time allocation over and over again,
00:23:55.580than any previous government and then the liberals under Trudeau promised no more omnibus budget
00:24:00.060bills and no more time allocation but now this administration is not only using omnibus budget
00:24:06.700bills to hide things that were never mentioned in the budget at all like we're going to deregulate
00:24:11.100pesticide use to allow dangerous pesticides for use that wasn't in the spring economic statement
00:24:15.660either again this moment right now is the worst i've seen in 15 years as an mp with prime ministers
00:24:23.980going from Stephen Harper to Justin Trudeau and now Mark Carney. I've served in that parliament
00:24:31.180with all of those governments in majority positions and minority. This is the worst I've
00:24:36.520ever seen. And I feel that democracy itself is disrespected. Parliament itself is disrespected.
00:24:45.120And the existence of, reminds me of what the late Jim Travers said once, you can talk about democracy,
00:24:50.840you can go to Ottawa. It's basically a democracy theme park. All the buildings are still there.
00:24:57.960You can tour them, but there's no democracy going on. And at the time, I thought there's
00:25:05.820still some democracy going on, but welcome to the democracy theme park. So I don't agree with
00:25:12.660Elizabeth May on policy, but I actually do agree with her on at least democratic functions there.