The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - January 25, 2024


Liberal MP forced to walk back anti-Trudeau comments

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Poilievre exposes how Trudeau lies to Canadians Liberals whine that Conservatives criticize them

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Ken McDonald, a Newfoundland and Labrador Liberal MP, says that Justin Trudeau is a drain on the party's popularity and that he thinks it's time for him to step down as Prime Minister. I talk about why he thinks that, and why the rest of his constituents agree with him.

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00:00:00.000 No doubt in the past, you've all heard me talk about Justin Trudeau and the Liberals' terrible polling numbers, their awful fundraising, and the fact that Justin Trudeau, as the Prime Minister of the country, cannot seemingly attract flies to any of the events he holds.
00:00:12.980 Those are all signs the Liberals are definitely not going to win the 2025 election.
00:00:16.960 But truly, the most glorious sign that the Liberals are not going to win is that their own MPs think that Justin Trudeau is a drain on the party's popularity.
00:00:24.660 When you're losing your own MPs from safer areas of the country, you know it's pretty much over.
00:00:30.780 And before I play the clip of Ken McDonald talking about how bad Trudeau's leadership is and the fact that he had to recant it, I just want to quickly mention that I, Wyatt Claypool, am running for the Calgary Signal Hill Conservative Party nomination.
00:00:43.080 If you live in this riding, except for the Green Bar and Bowness area, they're being cut out when riding boundaries change in April.
00:00:48.800 If you live in this riding, check out my website in the description below, WyattClaypool.com, buy a membership, support me.
00:00:55.160 We want to make sure red Tories don't occupy safe conservative seats.
00:00:58.220 There's a lot of pro-lockdown people running for my nomination, some people who are in charge of censorship at Facebook, all this stuff.
00:01:04.160 But they're sneaking in, pretending to be blue Tories now, even though they were all Aaron O'Toole fans as of a few years ago.
00:01:10.060 Anyways, here's this great clip from the CBC of Ken McDonald being very, very candid about his own constituents' feelings about Justin Trudeau.
00:01:17.720 Same as the rest of the country.
00:01:20.340 It's a, there's, there's almost a hatred out there right now for Prime Minister Trudeau.
00:01:28.520 Do you feel it?
00:01:29.380 Yeah, oh yeah, I hear it, I hear it.
00:01:31.920 At the door?
00:01:32.720 At the doors, at events I go to, people will bring it up.
00:01:36.200 Somebody will send me an email and say, like, if you run next time, Ken, I had an email recently, and this gentleman who I've worked with in a certain organisation since I've been elected, and he said, the only thing that will hurt you in the next election is your leader.
00:01:54.320 What do you think about that?
00:01:55.300 I think he's close to the sentiment of the majority of people in the country right now.
00:02:02.400 So, does that mean he should go?
00:02:04.920 I think that's the decision he has to make.
00:02:09.500 I don't think it's up to me or anyone else in the House of Commons to say they think he should leave or resign or give up or whatever.
00:02:17.840 So, next election, are you worried that, for Atlantic Canada, that the Conservatives could make gains?
00:02:24.800 Oh, I think they will make gains.
00:02:26.720 The Conservatives?
00:02:27.520 Yes, yeah, I think they will.
00:02:30.040 I don't think anybody will sweep it like we did in 2015.
00:02:33.960 It'll probably split a lot more evenly, I think, if it was, if the election were held tomorrow, I think it'll probably split pretty evenly between Conservatives and Liberals.
00:02:44.920 How do you explain that?
00:02:47.840 The government now of today, the Liberal government, is getting an old government.
00:02:54.060 People are maybe thinking it's time for a change.
00:02:57.120 I mean...
00:02:57.840 Those are great comments from Ken McDonald.
00:03:01.480 I still disagree with him on a lot of points there, like him just saying, well, it's because the government's getting old that people are sort of turning on us.
00:03:07.900 Or the fact that he thinks that the next election is not going to be a massive blowout for the Conservatives.
00:03:12.760 The Conservatives are easily going to win it by more than the Liberals' 2015 numbers.
00:03:16.940 It is going to be a slaughter.
00:03:19.080 But that, like, think about it from this perspective.
00:03:22.280 Ken McDonald is a, obviously you can just tell from the accent, a Newfoundland Liberal.
00:03:27.500 He is from the riding of Avalon.
00:03:29.680 He won that riding last time with 50% of the vote the previous time, 46%, and the previous time before that, 55%.
00:03:35.940 This is a safe Liberal seat.
00:03:38.000 He wins it by at least a 15-point margin.
00:03:40.940 Nobody can win that riding.
00:03:42.240 Maybe in the next election, Ken McDonald still probably won't lose that riding.
00:03:47.420 And yet, and he's talking, he's saying that people are coming up to him in his riding, at events, probably Liberal Party events.
00:03:54.200 He's not just going to community events.
00:03:55.720 And these people sound like the way that Ken's phrasing it, very respectful towards him.
00:03:59.440 They like Ken.
00:04:00.640 They don't like Trudeau.
00:04:01.720 And this is what I've said in so many videos.
00:04:04.720 It's not that the kind of the Western conservative person just hates Trudeau so much and their fiery momentum is going to throw Trudeau out of office.
00:04:14.000 What's throwing Trudeau out of office, because the Western conservatives, like myself, have always been against Trudeau.
00:04:19.160 But what's throwing Trudeau out of office is the people around the GTA donut, the people around the Montreal donut, people in BC, and people in the Maritimes who were soft Liberals before.
00:04:30.820 And they're like, they might have been very patient with Trudeau, far more patient than they should have been.
00:04:36.400 But now they're just like, he's just doing a bad job.
00:04:39.900 He's not focusing on the right priorities.
00:04:41.720 And they're even phrasing this in such a way that they might still vote Liberal and vote for Ken McDonald in their riding of Avalon if Trudeau wasn't around.
00:04:51.260 And this, again, proves my theory that the Liberal Party is just Justin Trudeau at this point.
00:04:56.740 Whenever you look at the polling from Abacus Data, because I think they do the best job on this, the polling for Trudeau's approval rating is usually around these days, like 25%, 26%, 24%.
00:05:07.060 The Liberal Party's polling almost matches Justin Trudeau's approval rating exactly.
00:05:12.740 Because if you don't like Trudeau, you're not voting Liberal.
00:05:15.980 And it was hilarious to watch today.
00:05:18.700 Ken McDonald had to come out and release a statement saying that, well, hey, I didn't really mean what I said.
00:05:24.440 And I was just, you know, speaking off the cuff about some concerns there were in my riding.
00:05:28.460 This was his direct quote.
00:05:30.740 This is a CBC article, obviously, because it was a follow-up from the CBC interview.
00:05:35.020 It said, in a statement sent Thursday morning, McDonald walked back his comments, insisting he wasn't calling for a leadership review.
00:05:41.680 Quote, the intent of my recent public comments was not to personally call for a leadership review, and I'm not calling for one now, said McDonald, the member of Parliament for Newfoundland's Avalon riding.
00:05:51.520 And that's pretty much all he said.
00:05:53.740 Literally, despite the state, like literally the article just goes on to, you know, rehashing what he had said in the interview and why he was obviously having to distance himself from it.
00:06:02.880 For some little background in Ken McDonald, he is the guy who flipped off conservative members in Parliament a couple months ago that got him into hot water.
00:06:11.580 But he is also the guy who ended up having to vote against the carbon tax or vote with Polly over the conservatives to call for an end to the carbon tax.
00:06:19.140 Because people sometimes forget out west, Newfoundland's a big natural gas province now.
00:06:23.680 And that province, it's funnily enough, it probably didn't have the natural gas and energy industry.
00:06:29.760 They would be voting liberal in even harder numbers than they are now.
00:06:34.120 Parts of the province might go blue.
00:06:36.440 And it's because the liberals' carbon tax have been deeply hurting timers.
00:06:41.620 This is why Trudeau pulled that stunt and paused the carbon tax on heater oil.
00:06:47.040 Because he's at least hoping to shore up his base of some of the Maritimers, you know, giving them some tax relief. 1.00
00:06:52.820 So they'll come back, vote for Trudeau.
00:06:54.640 Because Trudeau does provide, through equalization and through other benefits, a lot of stuff to the Maritimes.
00:07:01.140 A lot of social, fiscal benefits.
00:07:03.440 And so he's trying to get some people on side.
00:07:05.700 I still don't think it's how it's going to work.
00:07:08.180 People are not just going to get a heater oil exemption and vote liberal again.
00:07:12.200 It only applied to about 40% of maritime residents.
00:07:16.800 I think it's mostly like Newfoundland-ish areas that are, it's a lot of people on it.
00:07:20.300 Even those people, even if they get the tax exemption,
00:07:22.740 I think they realize that the carbon tax is still hurting their natural gas industry a lot.
00:07:27.360 And Ken McDonald understands that that's why he voted with the Conservatives.
00:07:31.440 Trudeau, and this is where I always have comments saying,
00:07:34.480 well, Trudeau's going to win anyway.
00:07:35.860 He's going to get a bunch of CCP money.
00:07:37.460 He's going to do this.
00:07:38.380 He's going to do that.
00:07:39.280 He's going to get some big donors to come in and save him in terms of the fundraising.
00:07:43.260 He's not.
00:07:44.120 He's really not. 0.97
00:07:45.260 And the thing is that I think that because Trudeau is such a nasty and duplicitous individual,
00:07:50.220 people have this idea of him as being a very almost savvy and competent manipulator. 0.64
00:07:55.340 He's not.
00:07:56.360 Justin Trudeau got away for a few elections.
00:07:59.260 One, he actually used to be kind of charismatic.
00:08:01.440 I didn't vote for him, definitely.
00:08:03.000 But he used to actually be able to project some charisma back in 2015.
00:08:05.840 And since then, he's been leaning harder and harder on the media to just basically dispel
00:08:10.540 any criticisms of him and say that it's from right wing cranks or it's from people who don't
00:08:15.400 understand policy issues that experts come out and say, actually, it doesn't matter that
00:08:19.160 you're getting taxed harder and your benefits from the government are less and social services
00:08:25.240 are slow and all this stuff.
00:08:26.600 Actually, Trudeau is doing a great job.
00:08:28.680 People do not trust the media anymore.
00:08:30.200 And that's been the strongest blow to the liberals is that people are not flipping on
00:08:34.220 the TV, hearing the news basically downplay all the economic concerns of Canadians and
00:08:39.600 say, well, I guess it's not that bad.
00:08:41.260 People feel it now.
00:08:42.380 And so they're not coming back.
00:08:44.180 Trudeau is not a master manipulator.
00:08:46.080 And again, a lot of the CCP interference in the 2021 election was in very select ridings.
00:08:51.760 The CCP could only manipulate the election probably only in 21 because now they're so exposed
00:08:56.540 if they did it again, it would be immediately the biggest story that the CCP is trying to
00:08:59.840 back up the liberals and it would hurt the liberals everywhere.
00:09:02.840 The CCP could only manipulate elections where there is a high population of people who were
00:09:07.580 born in mainland China who moved to Canada and who the CCP have direct access to in a
00:09:12.740 concentrated riding where they can pressure them into voting liberal.
00:09:16.180 It's not happening this election.
00:09:17.680 There's no there's no trick they can pull.
00:09:20.220 There is no WF scheme that there can be made like that can be manifest before next election
00:09:25.360 to do anything at the end of the day.
00:09:27.560 And this is why I always tell people this is why I reject both the hyper progressive left
00:09:31.400 and the populist right, not all populists.
00:09:34.180 I know some people call themselves populist.
00:09:35.940 I'm talking about like very, very kind of emotionally reactionary individuals whenever they talk about,
00:09:41.700 well, well, it's the he's he's establishment and the establishment is going to rig it.
00:09:45.360 You don't realize that the establishment is not nearly as competent as you think.
00:09:49.580 The establishment for the most part is only the only reason that they're good at what
00:09:54.020 they do is because they don't try to do too much.
00:09:56.540 That's why the NDP always does far worse in federal elections than the liberals.
00:10:00.140 The liberals know what their domain that they have to stay in is if they want to keep a big
00:10:04.700 moderate coalition.
00:10:06.180 When I say moderate, I'm saying mostly center left, a little bit of center right.
00:10:10.560 There's some people who will vote for the liberals because they're like social liberals,
00:10:13.840 even though they're fiscal conservatives.
00:10:15.460 But the liberals now have done too much.
00:10:17.840 They've become like the NDP.
00:10:19.440 They're messing with too much stuff.
00:10:20.740 Universal Dental did no favors for the liberals.
00:10:23.780 The $10 day child care did nothing.
00:10:26.160 A lot of these extra other climate programs, all this stuff, it's not doing anything for
00:10:29.740 the liberals anymore because the liberals base was always a lot of pensioners and it was 0.99
00:10:34.160 always a lot of other people who were maybe concerned with social service spending.
00:10:37.720 They want stability.
00:10:39.280 And in Canada, because we've always had big spending liberal governments promising to
00:10:43.480 be a big spending liberal government and not rock the boat too much generally was a good
00:10:48.240 play, Trudeau has gone over the top.
00:10:50.880 So now he's scaring all those people and they're running away from him.
00:10:53.680 The liberals always did really well with 60 plus voters.
00:10:56.560 Now the conservatives are winning them in wild numbers.
00:10:58.900 And I get so many comments from people saying, I used to vote liberal in Eastern Canada up
00:11:02.700 until 2019 or even 2021.
00:11:05.400 Not anymore because he's now putting my financial position at risk.
00:11:08.840 No matter what benefits he tries to promise me, no matter what rebates I get, it's not working
00:11:13.320 anymore.
00:11:13.940 This is why women are not voting for the liberals anymore. 1.00
00:11:16.560 Now the conservatives are winning women because the thing is that the conservatives are actually
00:11:20.700 promising stability.
00:11:22.060 Yes, they are cutting.
00:11:23.000 Yes, they are cutting wasteful spending.
00:11:24.520 But everyone understands that eventually a household has to cut their credit card debt
00:11:28.220 off somehow.
00:11:29.860 And right now the liberals going after Polyev and the conservatives say, well, you guys
00:11:34.020 are going to make cuts.
00:11:35.960 Yes.
00:11:36.420 Yes, they're going to make cuts.
00:11:37.380 Yes. 0.99
00:11:37.760 If I'm an MP, yes, I'm going to make cuts because there's woke garbage being funded. 1.00
00:11:42.700 There's stupid bloated programs that aren't benefiting anybody. 0.99
00:11:45.820 There's all this kind of different housing acceleration funds are not building a single 0.99
00:11:50.560 new house.
00:11:51.100 They're just throwing money at municipalities and promising that they might build the houses
00:11:55.280 that are currently under construction a little faster.
00:11:57.580 Nobody's under the impression that the spending is helping.
00:12:00.240 Our budget in 2015 or 2014 under Harper, it was like $229 billion or something like that.
00:12:06.680 $249 billion.
00:12:08.220 Right now our budget's like $429 billion.
00:12:11.260 It's almost doubled.
00:12:13.060 That's not a natural increase in spending.
00:12:16.020 And that's outside of COVID era spending.
00:12:17.740 We've gotten past all the COVID era spending that people say, well, it's a one-time thing.
00:12:21.100 We are past the one-time thing spending.
00:12:23.260 And we're almost double what our budget was 10 years ago.
00:12:26.360 Our population definitely hasn't doubled. 1.00
00:12:28.520 It's just the stupidity of the liberals has doubled. 1.00
00:12:30.620 It's just that they've gotten themselves in so many political traps and political corners 1.00
00:12:35.500 that they ended up spending more money and trying to buy votes.
00:12:38.040 And buying votes only works for so long until people realize the inflation is outpacing the
00:12:43.640 benefits the government's trying to throw at them to stay voting liberal.
00:12:47.000 You know, the heater oil thing will not help because in the Maritimes, people are already
00:12:50.800 taxed to death, both provincially and federally.
00:12:53.000 The heater oil exemption is a very, very small band-aid to a very, very bloody wound.
00:12:59.220 Anyways, that's pretty much it for me today.
00:13:01.860 Again, I, Wyatt Claypool, am running for the Calgary Signal Hill Conservative Party nomination.
00:13:06.420 If you live in that running, please vote for me.
00:13:09.140 Buy a Conservative Party membership.
00:13:10.600 It's $15 for one year.
00:13:12.320 Buy it.
00:13:12.660 Check out my website, wyattclaypool.com.
00:13:14.780 Support me.
00:13:15.540 There's a lot of pro-lockdown people in the race, like people who went to Hawaii during
00:13:19.760 the lockdowns that they were enforcing.
00:13:21.420 People who go to liberal fundraisers are in my riding.
00:13:24.200 There's people who were big O'Toole supporters.
00:13:26.140 There's one guy whose only criticism of the liberals is that they lack focus.
00:13:29.800 If you think that the only thing, the way of summing up the liberals is that they lack
00:13:33.380 focus, you've been unfocused.
00:13:35.180 You do not know what's going on in this country.
00:13:36.700 And you're just saying mild things, hoping that you're not too controversial for people.
00:13:41.220 Sad.
00:13:41.900 Again, there's a lady who was literally in charge of policy at Facebook Canada, who 0.99
00:13:45.780 was proud about censoring misinformation during COVID.
00:13:49.180 A lot of red Tories are trying to make their way to this riding to take it over.
00:13:53.540 Vote for me, number one.
00:13:54.580 Michael Kim is a good number two.
00:13:55.960 We need to keep our actual strong conservative ridings, strong conservative ridings.
00:14:00.980 The biggest threat right now to the conservatives is red Tories taking over in certain ridings
00:14:05.420 that they should not be in, and then stalling good reforms that need to be made when Polly
00:14:10.380 becomes the prime minister.
00:14:11.820 That is our biggest threat.
00:14:12.820 It is weak conservatives who will do what needs to be done once the government actually
00:14:16.320 takes power, a conservative government.
00:14:18.380 Anyways, then I also have my legal fundraiser in the description of this video below.
00:14:22.440 So if you want to chip in any money, it helps myself with the National Telegraph. 0.99
00:14:26.160 We're in a stupid lawsuit with a billionaire. 0.98
00:14:28.380 We caught him, you know, funder giving money to Aaron O'Toole when Aaron O'Toole was supposed 1.00
00:14:32.480 to be a tough on China guy.
00:14:33.840 And this guy is very pro-Beijing.
00:14:36.260 It's very easy to prove.
00:14:37.740 He's never been able to file any evidence to show that we've lied or said anything dishonest.
00:14:41.840 All of our evidence was actually from a Globe and Mail article about him other than
00:14:44.820 us showing he was donating to O'Toole.
00:14:46.700 So it's nonsense, but he's just throwing money at us to try and bankrupt us, assuming
00:14:51.020 he'd get a fake apology out of us.
00:14:52.800 We do not fake apologize.
00:14:54.260 We just win.
00:14:55.320 And that's it.
00:14:56.320 So if you want to donate to that, give some good links in the description.
00:14:59.220 And I'll see you guys in my next video or live stream.