00:05:17.140As if it's just, again, not that big of a deal that we have a government who's trying to get into talks with people who have opposite opinions of them and trying to incentivize them to drop all their beliefs or the Liberal Party dropping its beliefs to get them to come over.
00:05:34.700This new leader is now going to inherit a considerably smaller caucus.
00:05:39.280Now, Tim, very different from when there were rumours about Conservatives,
00:05:44.460particular Conservatives, you know, when Chris Dantremont got rumoured
00:05:48.340that, well, he had to make a decision right then, go or stay.
00:05:51.560But with the NDP, it was rumoured, but no one was pushing her out to make a choice.
00:05:56.200And we got to this point yesterday or last night.
00:06:25.620But honest to God, get over it, both in the NDP and the conservatives.
00:06:30.360it was the bigger issue. Get over it. The conservative panelist on CBC Power and Politics
00:06:37.080is telling you, a conservative or NDP voter in these writings, get over it. Oh, it sucks to get
00:06:43.440a, to lose a member of the team. Boo hoo, baby. It doesn't matter that you voted in these people.
00:06:50.140Yeah, they can do whatever the heck they want and you need to get over it. Like, I know he's kind
00:06:55.580of addressing his comments towards the party like establishments at the same time you can't divorce
00:07:02.940this from the fact that these are people who had voters behind them like come on there's a
00:07:09.500difference between someone leaving for a principled reason they were public about what they believed
00:07:14.580and a party moved away from them or was trying to censure them and they weren't allowed to speak on
00:07:19.640the things that they had stated that they were they were wanting to speak on and then you had
00:07:23.780to leave because of it that's fine none of these people did that though not one of them that's why
00:07:29.280all of their crop floor crossing statements are the most generic things you've ever read and
00:07:33.560whenever they're asked about it like laurie idloud she then says like oh oh well there's a lot of
00:07:39.280reasons why i left and i'm not going to tell you about any of them because you know then you could
00:07:43.140scrutinize my reasons you know chris dontermont michael ma matt jenneru oh well you know unity
00:07:49.220instability. I really liked how Mark Carney irons his pants. His Davos speech was good, even though
00:07:55.860his Davos speech was basically his entire campaign rhetoric from the last campaign.
00:08:00.180If that Davos speech was so good, why didn't you leave earlier? Because he's been talking like that
00:08:04.040for years. If you're the conservatives of the NDP is, all right, when is this going to continue to
00:08:10.260happen? And if it is, as it continues to happen, why is it happening? The, you know, the harping
00:08:17.860on them the crapping on them that's corruption corruption is why both i think financial but
00:08:24.920mainly political corruption people wanting the better position they want to be in the place of
00:08:29.740prominence they want the ministerial role they want to have some sort of other role given to
00:08:35.100them where they get to be important they get to go on trips with the prime minister maybe they
00:08:38.660get more money in the case of some of these people they are actually in positions that come with more
00:08:42.740money like they want to get re-elected easier you can't just say like oh why did they leave
00:08:48.800corruption but the whole idea is blaming the parties that these people left i think that it
00:08:55.000should be that you ride and die with your party if they haven't changed if they change and you
00:08:59.780get in and say i want to advocate for this that and the other thing and you ran on that and the
00:09:04.160party was okay with that at the time and now they're saying don't talk about that anymore
00:09:07.320and then you had to leave to a different party or start your own party to be able to talk about
00:09:10.840that that makes sense that is not even in the universe of what is going on right now not going
00:09:15.400to stop it the intimidation that some have alleged is not going to stop it what's going to stop it
00:09:21.080that's the thing you should be looking at floor crossing has happened as long as there have been
00:09:26.600democracies and it's great today the ndp gets the spotlight on itself because of floor crossing not
00:09:32.040their leadership race probably not the way they want to earn it yeah it's a bit different than
00:09:36.680the conservatives but i think that speaks to why maybe people find carney appealing and why they
00:09:42.280want to go there he's taking an approach that is unique to each individual case some apparently
00:09:48.280want titles others simply want to move over and get funding in their riding you can call that
00:09:53.400what you want to call it ultimately the voters will decide what the thing of it i literally
00:09:57.400had to scroll back to make sure i was not lying to you when i said this guy was a conservative
00:10:01.880strategist. He's literally labeled as a former conservative strategist. He is filling the
00:10:07.200conservative quotient of this panel. Again, I bring up Travis Dunraj. This is exactly what
00:10:13.040he's talking about. The conservatives on panels are not conservatives. It's Fred DeLore. It's the
00:10:19.200guys like this, people who are not going to say anything conservative because they're just old
00:10:23.140PC guys from like the Kim Campbell era. They're like old PC guys from like when the party had
00:10:29.060a really red portion. There are still more red people in the Conservative Party, but they only
00:10:34.260ever have the reds come on. Michelle, what does this say about the state of the NDP? And does it
00:10:43.540need to do some pretty deep soul searching? Or is this just par for the course right now for today's
00:10:49.440NDP? Imagine asking this person that question. She's literally a former press secretary or
00:10:55.960something like that former advisor to Paul Martin you're asking the liberal oh does this mean the
00:11:00.900NDP is going to go down now if it's openly biased show you had a guest come on who's just going to
00:11:05.840give you their opinion on everything and they are biased fair enough but the whole idea of this
00:11:10.300panel is it's the power panel it's balanced there's a conservative there's a liberal there's
00:11:14.880an NDP and then there's some neutral person who's just another liberal this is not balanced well
00:11:19.460you know I think as Jordan referenced it's a it's a rough day in a rough year uh that they've been
00:11:24.600having and it's certainly not probably what a new leader of the NDP wants to come in on
00:11:30.600but I think this is quite honestly less about the NDP and much more about Mark Carney
00:11:35.820and the prime minister that he is and the fact that he is you know really breaking the mold and
00:11:42.280he's breaking the mold guys it's a new government new government breaking the mold unity stability
00:11:47.420who cares about floor crossings Mark Carney so great he deserves to be able to do unethical
00:11:52.740things come on people like i need to bring up this uh well i'll start off with comments by
00:11:58.780pure poly of the leader of the conservative party because we haven't uh i didn't talk about what he
00:12:02.980said yesterday i think his post may have come out either while i was recording yesterday or right
00:12:07.740afterwards uh conservative party leader pure poly of here says mark carney is using backroom deals
00:12:13.060to seize a costly majority that voters rejected which will enable liberals to balloon debt
00:12:18.100inflate the cost of living block resources and turn criminals loose on our street on our streets
00:12:22.720I don't need to read the rest. It is generally just campaign rhetoric.
00:12:26.720The one thing I just want to highlight is he's saying that he is using backroom deals to seize a costly majority, to seize a majority.
00:12:35.140Now, if the liberals wanted to disprove what Polyev is saying, they could have any of these floor crossers come out and do a sit down interview and explain all the problems with their original party and why Mark Carney is so brilliant.
00:12:49.740Can they actually do that? They can't. They have no ability to actually articulate themselves on this issue because they've saw it way too much of the opposite. And can anyone name anything that Carney has done? Although Lori Idlout feels perfect for the party. Look at this from Holly Doan from Blacklock's Reporter.
00:13:09.360First term NDP MP Lori Idlout, and this is from 2023, by the way, this isn't just coming
00:13:14.560out conveniently right now to attack her.
00:13:17.640First term NDP MP Lori Idlout is a federal supplier whose firm has been awarded almost
00:13:23.120a half million in contracts since her election in 2021.
00:13:27.300Now, you'll remember the NDP was in a coalition with Justin Trudeau's liberals back then.
00:13:32.020And just, you know, unsurprisingly, her firm was getting massive amounts of money since
00:13:38.760She's corrupt, so I guess she is going to fit in with the liberals quite well.
00:13:43.060There's some other stuff about criminal charges against her son, but I don't think that really matters too much.
00:13:47.100Oh, here's another liberal propagandist who was on the CBC, you know, not to actually critique whether or not this is, you know, ethical or not.
00:13:57.140Only that this is all, you know, this is great for the liberals and it's, you know, you know, and the NDP and the conservatives suck because a corrupt thing happened.
00:14:07.300Mr. Carney is returning the Liberal Party, in my view, to its roots as a centrist brokerage party.
00:14:14.020And there used to be two of those in this country, but now there's only one.
00:14:17.700And so I think a lot of people, particularly from the...
00:14:21.040The implication there being the Conservatives are far right and they're no longer a brokerage party.
00:14:27.500Brokerage might not be the best term for him to be using because it does make it sound like all of this is brokering deals in the back room
00:14:33.420not actually just being out front and engaging in you know policy development based on what the
00:14:39.900the grassroots of the public want clearly from the conservative side who wouldn't really be part of
00:14:45.180the radical side of that party find this new formation uh that mr kearney's putting together
00:14:52.940youtube and again just another person slagging the conservatives and the ndp for this that all
00:15:06.180this just demonstrates that actually mark carney is the best the fact that he has to get bring over
00:15:12.620mps for these like corrupt reasons just means that he's an even better prime minister than
00:15:16.940you previously thought. Here's a post that's quite interesting. A Liberal MP, Eric St. Pierre here
00:15:23.140says, on our way to a majority with a photo of Laurie Idlout with a CBC link. Ryan Garrison
00:15:30.900here says, now why would Eric, who is a Liberal MP, delete this? He posted this last night and
00:15:37.040then quickly removed it. Yes, it's almost like even the Liberals know when this information is
00:15:43.220not being filtered by the legacy media to sound like this is actually all above board and good
00:15:48.460the average person's reaction to a post like that would be quite negative because it's not how
00:15:54.220democracy is supposed to work it feels very gamified uh here is steve mckinnon the liberal
00:15:59.900mp uh who's also a liberal mp who's also the house leader for the liberals uh trying to play
00:16:04.740up the idea that people are leaving other parties because they don't like them very much in the past
00:16:09.440you've alluded to the fact that you said the Liberals were talking to more MPs who are
00:16:12.920unsatisfied with their parties about joining yours. Where does that stand right now? Is that
00:16:17.680still the case? Oh, I think very much so. I think that Canadians who live in conservative ridings
00:16:24.000look at their MPs and wish they would spend more time proposing solutions, participating in
00:16:30.760this great project on which we've embarked to build Canada more strong and to continue to
00:16:36.900diversify our supply chains to continue to develop markets abroad and to continue to push our economy
00:16:43.660no i thought you said conservatives but i said just in general but what about ndp mps
00:16:50.100um well i don't know i mean ndp mps uh those constituents i think feel much the same
00:16:57.900uh that they uh their constituents are asking them to participate in this great project upon
00:17:04.220again what have they accomplished can they actually name an accomplishment we i even
00:17:09.980highlighted it like a week and a half ago or like last week that when a liberal commentator a liberal
00:17:16.280analyst was on a cpac show talking about the accomplishments of the liberal government
00:17:22.640admitted that yes he does need to start getting some wins because he doesn't have any wins right
00:17:26.720now sorry but he doesn't have any the mark carney does not have any wins under his belt
00:17:32.640So what project are these MPs crossing the floor to help the Liberals embark on?
00:17:38.420They haven't embarked on anything yet.
00:17:41.640And that whole clip of Steve McKinnon talking comes across far more like a mafia shakedown than an actual, like, sincere, I guess, like, it doesn't really seem like a sincere insight into what people from other writings are, like, you know, think.
00:17:59.240It seems more like he's basically trying to wish cast what he would like voters to want and trying to create this narrative in the media that, of course, there's all these people in conservative ridings who want their MPs to cross.
00:18:12.020There isn't. What's his data point to suggest that?
00:18:15.660Not one of these people who have crossed the floor have been able to get people out to actually say that they're happy with it.
00:18:21.500And if they are, you're usually just liberal partisans who voted liberal.
00:18:24.840And of course, they want the person to cross.
00:18:26.420this whole thing is just a complete joke at this point and i hope a lot of canadians actually do
00:18:32.180start like chafing against what's going on here and they actually start not wanting to vote for
00:18:37.940parties who like basically will do anything for power we want principle in government we do not
00:18:43.480want just simply power brokering we've been doing that for about 10 years now it's not been working
00:18:48.860out very well for canada as a country anyways with that all being said thank you guys for watching
00:18:56.080I'm going to be coming back with some stuff from Alberta in my next video.
00:19:00.160There's been nonsense going on with Nahid Nenshi, the NDP leader,
00:19:04.460trying to say that the UCP government should dissolve
00:19:07.620because First Nations chiefs don't like them.
00:19:10.420That's a massive stunt, and I'm going to have to cover that.
00:19:13.260But other than that, thank you guys for watching.