00:00:00.000Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here, and welcome back to the National Telegraph YouTube channel.
00:00:06.120Entertainment has changed a lot over time. A couple thousand years ago, Romans enjoyed going
00:00:11.940to the Coliseum to watch gladiators fight to the death, or to see plebeians thrown to the lions.
00:00:18.180And now, in the year 2026, I, Wyatt Claypool, enjoy sitting back and watching online liberals
00:00:25.520and other assorted leftists savage the former NDP leader for saying something nice about a
00:00:31.740conservative. In a certain sense, not much has really changed from the Roman times. I find this
00:00:37.920endlessly hilarious. So former NDP leader Tom Mulcair went on CTV News to talk about Pierre
00:00:45.680Polyev's appearance on the Joe Rogan experience, and he gave it good reviews. And the reaction to
00:00:52.060him online is hilarious, especially considering how open-minded left-wing voters in Canada
00:00:58.560think that they are. I find conservatives way more willing to give compliments to left-wing
00:01:04.600politicians than left-wing voters are willing to give to right-wing politicians. I know I work in
00:01:10.680BC politics with Dallas Brody, and it is like pulling teeth getting anyone from the other side
00:01:15.780to even admit that she's at least tapping onto issues that people really care about that have
00:01:20.860been neglected. But in this video, we are going to go through this CTV news clip, and then I want
00:01:27.260to show you guys the reaction, and then we will be going over just the really stupid take the
00:01:32.560liberal on the panel, the guy with the blue glasses ended up having. But before we get into
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00:02:18.180let's hear how how what Tom Mulcair thought of Polyev's appearance on the Joe Rogan experience
00:02:24.740I thought he was super well prepared and for something that was going to last that long
00:02:30.240every time he would get to something tricky like a good slalom skier just make the right move make
00:02:36.780slow down just enough get through it wouldn't touch some of the obvious traps was really thinking
00:02:43.020about what he was going to say I thought it was an outstanding piece of political communication
00:02:47.680and now immediately Tom Mulcair he is again a left-wing former politician that guy is being
00:02:56.940very fair and very objective here he's not saying he agrees with Polyev's ideas I assume that he
00:03:01.960doesn't agree with a lot of Polyev's ideas they're on opposite ends of the political spectrum you
00:03:06.960could say Tom Mulcair is a little more of a center-left NDP leader so he's not that that
00:03:11.940far away from you know from Polyev compared to somebody like Heather McPherson or Avi Lewis in
00:03:17.580the NDP. But still, they're far apart. But you notice what Tom Mulcair is doing. He's just
00:03:22.980complimenting him on the grounds that, you know, it's really good political communications work.
00:03:27.700He is hitting all the points he needs to. He's not getting trapped on topics that he doesn't want
00:03:32.840to go on about in case the media rips him for talking about, you know, Trudeau being
00:03:37.460Fidel Castro's son or whatever. I still think that Polly didn't need to shut down those
00:03:41.840conversations too quickly because it's obviously a bit of a joke and you don't need to immediately
00:03:46.380kind of naysay the topic. But overall, from Tom Mulcair's perspective, it was well done.
00:03:51.740Let's watch the rest of this. But so far, you should get the impression that this is
00:03:55.300an extremely reasonable and balanced take on this interview was bookended by a speech that he gave
00:04:02.100later on in New York that frankly, one of the best political speeches I've heard any Canadian
00:04:06.960political leader give on Canada US relations in a long time. He's ditched that tone that used to
00:04:12.800drive everybody up the wall. He was on the same serious tone that he used at that economic
00:04:18.020conference in Toronto recently. And the content of that speech on top of the proper tone was
00:04:24.100outstanding. I mean, he gave a better explanation as to why it was a mistake for the Americans to
00:04:29.520be pushing tariffs when he talked about the fact that Trump's main argument was, oh, Canada's got
00:04:33.560a trade surplus with the United States. Yes, we do, because we're selling you $100 billion a year
00:04:39.020of oil that we sell you cheap. And do you want us to stop that so we can get rid of the trade
00:04:44.300surplus? I mean, he didn't quite finish that sentence, but he just left it hanging there,
00:04:47.900which is another artful thing to do. So I think that between the Toronto speech and the New York
00:04:52.100speech and the appearance on Rogan, we are indeed starting to see a whole new Pierre Poitiev. And
00:04:57.060it's one that I think the Canadians are going to warm to much more than they have to the tone that
00:05:01.260we've seen from him in the past. Now, I don't even necessarily agree with everything that Thomas
00:05:06.300small care said there. I would say that's a very reasonable take from a left-wing perspective.
00:05:11.600On the trade issue, I think Polyev is knocking it out of the park right now, and you could say
00:05:14.980that's a borderline non-partisan issue. No Canadian politician wants tariffs on us, and so he's giving
00:05:20.180him like A-plus grades for how he's talking about the issue in the United States. I disagree with
00:05:25.240the idea that this is like a new peer Polyev, or that he's changed his tone in a way where he's
00:05:30.800like somehow nicer than he was previously. I never felt like Polyev was rude or alienating
00:05:36.920of voters. I thought the reason that the conservatives didn't win in 2025 was just
00:05:40.860that the platform wasn't matching his tone in a certain sense. It wasn't that his tone
00:05:45.780was nasty or anything. It was this, that the platform was too mild. And so there was kind
00:05:51.240of a mismatch between how he was talking and how he was actually running. And I think then
00:05:56.600that ended up causing many conservative voters, accessible conservative voters, didn't turn out in
00:06:02.460the rates that they needed them. But overall, it's a good take from Thomas Mulcair. I don't
00:06:08.240agree with all of it, but I thought he was very fair. Now, guys, we need to see how the left
00:06:14.640reacted to this. Let's just go down the list. I'm just going through all the quote tweets of this
00:06:19.800clip so we have former ndp member of provincial parliament parliament in ontario sherry de novo
00:06:27.000saying profoundly embarrassing tom vicky campbell who was a massive trudeau and now mark carney
00:06:35.160shill says tom all care works for stephen harper now that's all you need to know about why he
00:06:41.000supports peer poly of when nobody else does oh my goodness he supports polyeth because he gave
00:06:47.560his own subjective evaluation of how the interviews went he's not even saying he'd vote for
00:06:52.520him he's probably wouldn't vote for him he's just saying he did a good job in an interview
00:06:56.680i've said when carney has done a good job my goodness uh tom park says just brutal and
00:07:02.920insulting that ctv execs to make tom all care the ndp pundit while the other parties get people who
00:07:09.240actually have a relationship with their party and want them to succeed i'm sorry tom parkin uh the
00:07:15.640The NDP has shot itself in the foot so badly that even Tom Mulcair is no longer considered within the party anymore.
00:07:23.900And by the way, no, other than Lisa Raitt, who's quite good here, I believe that's Lisa Raitt as the conservative representative here.
00:07:31.520But other than Lisa Raitt on CTV News, it's rare to actually get a good conservative pundit on your panels, especially on the CBC.
00:07:40.840It's like Fred DeLore is the conservative representative on power and politics most of the time. He's terrible. He was Aaron O'Toole's campaign manager. He's barely conservative in any way. And I've had other examples where the conservatives were just openly agreeing with whatever Mark Carney was saying and that conservatives need to stop whining so much. What are you possibly talking about?
00:08:01.380It's that the NDP has shrunk so much that even Tom Mulcair is not considered within the party's tent anymore because they moved so far left.
00:08:10.660Again, it's not being like, oh, he's not NDP if he doesn't rip on Polyev.
00:08:15.160He's saying that Polyev did a good speech.
00:09:09.600Here's another one, Jason YYC, Jason underscore underscore YYC,
00:09:15.440who's had a long history of trying to harass me, and this guy says, this effing guy never missed
00:09:20.980an opportunity to disappoint. Never missed an opportunity to disappoint. All of these people
00:09:26.780were loving on Jagmeet Singh in 2019, 2021, and 2025, and the guy underperformed Tom Mulcair
00:09:36.140in all three of those elections, and you're going to say Thomas Mulcair disappoints? Even Tom
00:09:41.880Mulcair only underperformed in 2015 relative to Jack Layton flying very high. Thomas Mulcair was
00:09:49.460a perfectly fine NDP leader. He actually held the party together for the most part, considering that
00:09:54.700he wasn't having to run against a very weak liberal party anymore, and it was Justin Truro's
00:09:59.380liberal party in 2015. He did admirably well, all considering, but all the NDP does is constantly
00:10:07.180hack on their own people uh do we have any other here yeah here we go this person who is some
00:10:14.120Hamas supporter probably says this is Jack Layton's legacy more than any of the sentimental
00:10:19.820hokum attached to him followed by low info millennials I don't know why this person's
00:10:24.840bring up Jack Layton I guess they're saying that like Tom Mulcair is really like the type of person
00:10:29.560who like actually like represents Tom Mulcair's legacy because he was like a close ally of Tom
00:10:35.120all care but again they're just whining that this guy actually has any sort of like reasonable take
00:10:42.060this guy t dot residents resident uh says palm all care is just like the jim kramer of canadian
00:10:48.400politics referencing the guy who does stocks about you know does advice on stocks on tv is
00:10:54.440frequently wrong how i have not had anyone explain this to me yet how was it a bad interview for
00:11:01.320Polyev. Now, I have seen him do, I saw parts of the interview where I think he shouldn't have
00:11:07.540said that. He did some overly flowery language about how the First Nations community is extremely
00:11:14.420forward-looking and we want to partner with them to do natural resource development. That came
00:11:20.540across as a little bit of pandering from Pierre Polyev. No, that really isn't what the First
00:11:25.640Nations community is like. It's not that the First Nations community is backward-looking or something
00:11:30.060like that it's just a community they're just people but i don't like this whole idea of like
00:11:34.660oh this community over here is particularly enterprising like you could describe some
00:11:40.060communities like that where there's a lot of business owners but if anything the first nations
00:11:44.040community is what i would describe as severely held back by the reserve system and corrupt ban
00:11:50.480councils and the entire reconciliation industry in general it's a community who largely doesn't
00:11:55.820get to live in the free market like the rest of us. And so, like, I didn't really see why he
00:12:01.240talked about it that way. If anything, it's a community in dire need of help because they are
00:12:05.860being held back by awful government policy and ban councils. But, you know, overall, the interview
00:12:11.280was good for Polyev. He came away with a big net positive. And if you're a liberal and you hated
00:12:17.080the interview, other than you hate Polyev and you hate Joe Rogan, what was actually bad about it?
00:12:23.120Now, I thought that Mark Carney's interview on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart did pretty well back in the day.
00:12:30.100Now, I found it really hypocritical, and I didn't think he was actually, you know, people were giving him rave reviews.
00:12:35.060I think it went pretty well for him, but they were, like, really overstating how charming and funny he was and all that stuff.
00:12:41.640But I can actually give him credit for things he did well in that interview.
00:12:44.920If you're a liberal or a leftist and you can't say a single nice thing about that interview, it's because you're just a partisan hack.
00:12:52.520Here is another person. Brenda Duck says, are you kidding me, Mulcair? He didn't say one damn word we haven't heard from day one from everyone trying to make sense of dealing with Trump. What the WTH are these pundits even listening to praising Polly for a scripted BS way too late coming? What are you talking about?
00:13:13.660Like, sorry, he actually has been saying things that are unique to what Mark Carney has been
00:13:18.680saying. He's been making very constructive arguments for saying that we should take the
00:13:23.720China deal that we just signed and burn it if it allows us to get a better deal with the United
00:13:28.180States, that we should engage in some horse trading if we actually want to be able to get
00:13:32.360to a zero tariff relationship with the U.S. That is not something the liberals have proposed. In
00:13:37.400fact, they've been doing the opposite, saying let's sacrifice the U.S. relationship to go sign
00:13:42.220deals with Indonesia and China and other countries in Europe that we're never going to be able to
00:13:48.640replace the United States with. Guaranteed, that person did not watch the interview.
00:13:54.800Here's Meg. How is he being praised for this when he let Rogan's disinformation go unchecked?
00:14:01.940Life-saving COVID restrictions were ridiculous? Blaming fake refugees for housing crisis?
00:14:07.040Made being used for seasonal depression? Blatant lies he didn't push back on.
00:14:12.220I don't even know how to respond to this one. It just demonstrates there are a lot of very low information liberal voters. It's now a famous story where the parents of the victim have spoken out that their son, who was in his 20s, received MAID medical assistance in dying, basically assisted suicide, because he had seasonal depression.
00:14:34.240The official paperwork showed that's what happened. We've had people get made because they had hearing loss. We have had people get made for other mental health disorders. It's just your fault if you don't know about this stuff. Sorry, life-saving COVID restrictions were ridiculous?
00:14:52.020us they were they were proven not to really work at all it was it was a stupid thing that we did
00:14:58.560yes probably in the middle of it maybe certain people over a certain age with certain comorbidities
00:15:03.820should have stayed home but the idea that like the average young person need to be locked up
00:15:08.420was insane blaming fake refugees for housing crisis the liberals themselves are trying to
00:15:15.560reduce the amount of immigrants including fake refugees including tfws including international
00:15:21.040students, many of whom are fake, PRs, and all that, because even the Carney government had to
00:15:25.840acknowledge that this was putting way too much pressure on the housing supply. It's just basic
00:15:31.260facts. But the thing is that so many of these liberals live in a world where probably because
00:15:36.480they work as consultants or other, they have fake jobs or they're retired living on a pension,
00:15:40.780they now have the luxury to believe stupid things. They can believe things that are not true,
00:15:45.960because it's never going to actually smack them in the day-to-day life. So they can go around
00:15:50.220acting like no no of course Mark Carney's saving the country and he's preventing that Donald Trump
00:15:54.820and America from annexing us and making us the 51st state and and Polyev is a traitor who's
00:16:00.800trying to give away the keys to the kingdom to Donald Trump like where are you getting this from
00:16:05.320I still see people repeating this nonsense all the time and you wouldn't think are they just
00:16:11.620saying this to basically propagandize against the conservatives some of them are probably people
00:16:16.280like Vicky Campbell are. Other people like Laura Babcock genuinely believe it. It's sad to witness.
00:16:24.660But that should be enough of that. I want to now bring you to the interview itself to highlight
00:16:29.720this other member of the panel trying to still slag Polyev's performance. This was basically
00:16:35.600right after Tom Mulcair gave his positive review of what he said. We're going to go through Lisa
00:16:41.040right first and then hear his response. His seat projections have them exceeding 200 seats right
00:16:46.860now. Is what Pierre Polyev doing going to work at this juncture? And so this is basically asking,
00:16:56.960is his new media strategy going to be helping him in terms of the polling and the electoral
00:17:03.980success of the Conservatives' next election? The last part is the most important part,
00:17:09.340at this juncture i think it could work eventually i think that given a little bit more of a runway
00:17:15.660maybe a majority government that hangs around for three years to where the point they're going to
00:17:20.940actually have to be putting out results as opposed to just talking about announcements and and what
00:17:26.300they plan on doing because these are taking a long time to get done for a whole bunch of good reasons
00:17:31.900but he has a good thing to think about i mean he's getting good response it's something to
00:17:35.980to build on but i would point this out don't assume that the polyev that you got both in europe
00:17:41.720and toronto and new york and indeed on that podcast is the one you're going to get in the
00:17:46.240house of commons it's not he will go back to doing what he does he mentioned it many times
00:17:51.160he's there to prosecute the government and he'll continue to prosecute the government so it's kind
00:17:56.380of like when you know the family is having a big fight but you know you got a company coming over
00:18:01.060and you stop the fight because the company's in the room you don't want to show them that
00:18:04.520I think that's what's going to end up happening.
00:18:06.940He was great out in public amongst everybody else.
00:18:09.560But once we get back in Canada, he's going to take the fight to Carney.
00:18:21.300On the timing issue, obviously he needs this issue set to change, or he's almost certainly sunk.
00:18:26.860As long as what we're talking about is Trump, no matter how thoughtful his speeches might be,
00:18:31.080I just don't think he's going to rank up against the prime minister.
00:18:36.320Yuri, CTV News political analyst, Scott Reid.
00:18:40.300I knew it was like Scott something, but I know there's another Scott Reid out there.
00:18:43.820So I was wondering if I was forgetting, like, you know, combining two people in my head.
00:18:48.380Actually use your degree in whatever you have to analyze politics.
00:18:53.820This is why I cannot stand a lot of mainstream shows.
00:18:56.600I think Vashi Kapalos does a really good job on CTV News. And sometimes, like sometimes, there's this older host who sometimes hosts CBC Power and Politics who asks reasonable questions. But what is this? Oh, he's been one thing in politics for 20 years. I don't think he's going to change. What has he been? What has he been? Like you haven't actually defined what he was and why it was negative and then why you cannot change.
00:19:23.740It's just this kind of constant kind of insinuation that Polly is a bad guy and you should just be hypnotized by me saying that he is nasty and terrible and people don't like him.