Liberals FAIL in making excuses for Carney's ＂cringey＂ Trump meeting
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Sometimes, sometimes, you just have to take the L. -Wyatt Claypool Greg McKecker, host of the show Power and Politics, talks about the embarrassing meeting between Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and President Trump.
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Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here. I have a suggestion for the liberals in the media who wish to spin
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for Prime Minister Mark Carney and the liberal government. Sometimes you just have to take the
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L. Mark Carney's recent visit to the Oval Office to meet with U.S. President Donald Trump was
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objectively embarrassing. We already had an Oval Office meeting back in June, and we did an okay
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job back then because Carney kept it light. It sounded like he was going to be willing to engage
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in negotiations to get a trade deal, and then he went very quickly back into elbows-up mode,
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tried to pass the digital services tax. The Trump administration pressured him out of it.
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They put counter tariffs on USMCA-compliant goods coming into Canada from the U.S.,
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and they had to ratchet that back because we looked really stupid when the U.S. wasn't even doing that
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to us. And now we are back in the Oval Office recently, basically just trying to get back to
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the table, in which we're having to make more concessions, like saying we will invest another
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trillion dollars into the U.S. economy over some period of time, and we will also commit to new
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defense commitments that the U.S. wants us to do. And some of those things, like higher defense
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spending, isn't even necessarily bad. But from a rhetorical standpoint, from negotiating from a
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place of strength, this has all been bad. It's just objectively bad. We should have been here,
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we should have been trying to get a deal months ago, but we were too busy butzing around, doing
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nothing, talking tough, and actually not actually putting anything on the table to put on as a
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concession or making any threats. And now we're in the position where we're simply having to basically
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give stuff up just to talk. And we still have people in the mainstream media, oftentimes liberal
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commentators, it's kind of their job to give a liberal perspective on these things. But trying
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to spin so hard to the point, it's just self-defeating. Here was Greg McEachern on power and politics,
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trying to put some shine onto this meeting, and honestly just doing a terrible job. I think even
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if you're a liberal watching this, you feel like, hey, come on, really tell me your actual opinion,
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stop giving me spin. Greg, I'll start with you. How do you think the Prime Minister did this week in
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Washington? He was quite complimentary of the President at some points during that Oval Office
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sit-down, but there's still no deal. What did you take away from that trip?
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Well, it really depends on the lens that you looked at it through. I mean, if you're Pierre
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Polyev, it was probably a colossal failure. I haven't bothered to check, but it just, I'm
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probably assuming that I'm correct there. If you compare it, though, to the previous visit,
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it was excellent. Oh, if you compare it to the previous visit, you know, before we had been
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embarrassed, you know, just a good sit-down chat, they looked like they got along. That one was not
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good, apparently. And this one, relative to it, was excellent. Oh, but you'd only think this was
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really bad and a disaster if you were that horrible, mean, horrible guy, Pierre Polyev.
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It's such a stupid way of framing this. Basically, Greg McKecker is trying to signal to people out
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there that, hey, if you think that that was a bad meeting, if it was embarrassing seeing Mark Carney
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go back on all of his elbows up rhetoric and trying to depraise, praising of Donald Trump and trying to
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be super nice and like, you know, very submissive, even though in a certain sense, I actually agree,
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hey, Trump, you know, let him, let him be a big personality, try and get along with him,
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trade some jokes with him. You should be doing that. But based on how he ran the last election
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campaign to his own base, this should seem embarrassing. But no, Greg McKecker is here
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to tell you if you're a liberal, hey, don't find this embarrassing, or I'm going to basically say
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that you must be agreeing with Pierre Polyev. You must be like Pierre Polyev if you thought that
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objectively embarrassing meeting was embarrassing. It wasn't objectively embarrassing. There's nothing
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that Greg McKecker can say that's going to somehow like shed some new light on it. Oh,
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I didn't think of it that way. I didn't realize that Carney falling on his face in a puddle of mud
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was actually a good move here. Compare it to some of the other world leaders who have gone to the
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Oval Office. It was excellent. But there was a, you know, a moment, I think Anne McGrath was on a panel
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earlier this week, and she used the cringe word. And if I'm looking at it, you know, from the point of view
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of a proud Canadian or as, you know, a supporter of the Liberal Party, you know, there is a cringe
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factor there as well. So I thought it was an excellent meeting, Greg. I thought it was an excellent
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meeting. I don't usually call excellent meetings cringeworthy. So it's like he's having to first
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hit you with the, well, don't think it's a disaster, because that would be Polyev-like.
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It was an excellent meeting. Hey, because Greg knows that internally, you know, that's not true. And it was
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really weird. There's just the way that Carney was acting and how just passive he was. It was
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cringeworthy. Okay, it was a little bit. But remember, it was still an excellent meeting. There
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was a cringey element to it. So I'm agreeing with you, the feelings I know you have. But at the end
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of the day, don't worry, somehow mission accomplished, roll out the banner, because something happened and
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it was somehow good for Carney. I don't know what we had to make a bunch of commitments to get
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nothing. We still don't have a deal. But it was somehow excellent.
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But I'm also mindful that at some point, whether it's true or not, the fact that Trudeau got under
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the president's skin was used against him by, you know, the opposition parties. So, you know, it is a
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it's a tough, it's a tough audience to negotiate. It was a used against Trudeau that he got under
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Trump's skin. Or it's just a stupid move when you're Canada, and they're America. And we obviously
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don't have as much trade negotiating muscle. And Carney has completely gotten rid of all of our
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muscle for negotiating, because we've had to walk back so many of the moves we've made.
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We look like a very unsure opponent in this negotiation. And we've proven ourselves to be weak
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and willing to roll back any retaliatory moves we make. In fact, I always thought from the beginning,
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we just need to come to a win-win scenario. We don't have to have any tariffs and counter tariffs.
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We just need to hit them early with what our offer was, you know, make a concession, make a threat,
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both at the same time, maybe, you know, saying, hey, we are willing to get rid of supply management
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if you'll go down to zero tariffs. But if you don't, we will have to do this. That's an actual
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negotiation. Based on all of the intel I've gotten from people who are aware of it, it's not like
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Canada was unwilling to basically put anything on the table, because Carney wouldn't let them. So
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LeBlanc had to walk into the room, Dominic LeBlanc, basically just saying, like, what I've been
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basically saying as a satirical version of it, hey, guys, we're like PB&J, why can't we just get
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along? Why don't you just lower the tariffs for free, for nothing? And they just say no. And we've
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been tariffing them for decades with the supply management stuff, not letting in dairy and poultry
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and other products into Canada without a tariff. And now we're acting like it's unfair,
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which is ticking them off. Even if I don't like their tariffs on us, we have to be realistic if
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we want to get to a real deal. But then you have people like Greg McEachern here, who aren't willing
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to look at this realistically. And he's basically just trying to satiate the feelings of liberal
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supporters who know it was a bad meeting, but they just want to be told it was good anyways.
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You know, broadly, but the big one in the in the Oval Office is a really tough one.
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I will say this, though, JP, one of the big problems, though, is one of the lenses that you
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have to look at this through is the spin that came out last week. So Mel and Fred and I were
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about to go on air when, you know, there was some word that there was going to be a deal on steel.
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And I think, you know, the folks at the centre need to take a look at whether or not they helped
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that trip and the view of that trip by raising expectations unnecessarily. I think overall,
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in terms of, you know, take the cringe factor away, it was a good meeting and things continue
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Yeah. If you take all the crappy parts away, if you take the crap out of the crap sandwich,
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the sandwich is less crappy. It's like, well, wow, what a what a concept, Greg. If we just
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ignore the bad parts, it was quite good. No, it wasn't. We didn't get anything. I don't even
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know what we got forward. And, you know, things didn't blow up as we've seen that have happened
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with other leaders. But, you know, you have to be very careful when your own people are setting
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expectations. You know, there's a there's a lot of value attributed to that. There's a lot of
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expectations, you know, that that you are giving us. And something something went awry there.
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Okay, so so guys, I'm focusing so much on with on the Greg McEachern guy in the video today,
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because I love how inconsistent this is. Oh, if you thought it was a disaster, you're probably
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pure poly of because of course, he thinks that he sets the tail of that poisons the well against
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anyone who object who saw that meeting as objectively bad. Oh, you're just some pure poly of partisan.
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If you think it was bad, it was excellent. Well, it was cringe, cringe worthy. But it was excellent
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compared to other meetings. Well, yeah, they did set expectations too high. Yeah, you know, overall,
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you can't over promise and under deliver and meetings. What was the last thing he just said
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there? I think this is the last one value attributed to that. There's a lot of expectations,
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you know, that that you were giving us. And something something went awry there.
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Okay, so we go through all if Oh, if you think it was a disaster, you're some pure poly of partisan.
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It was excellent. Yeah, it was cringe worthy. But it was still excellent compared to other world leaders.
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Well, yeah, they did set expectations too high and things went awry. But remember that meeting was
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excellent. Like, just spin less, talk less, and you'll do Mark Carney more favors. But now I want
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to jump over to another clip that was on CTV News recently, where they're going over the polls.
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And I like whenever they have to highlight things that frankly don't matter when it comes to the
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polling. The polling is objectively not going very well for Mark Carney. Nano's numbers were the last
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poll that were giving them a significant lead. Now they're within the margin of error in the latest
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nano's poll. 39.1 liberal to 37.9 conservative with 11.5 for the NDP. Are the liberals still
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nationally ahead? Sure. On seat projections, conservatives actually win. And the thing is
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that, yeah, of course, Mark Carney still has a positive approval rating. He's too boring to be
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hated. But they're using this as like the silver lining. Well, you know, Carney is still more like
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than Paulia. Okay, well, more people would elect conservatives in their local writing. So what's
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your point? While it's support for the liberals and conservatives, Nano says the two parties are at a
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statistical dead heat. The conservatives are making considerable gains, jumping five points recently.
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Rewind back to before. And you know, that 33% optimism was only about, I think, seven or 8%
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optimism. And you know, this, this speaks to the fact that Justin Trudeau was a negative lightning rod
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for the liberal party. And Canadians writ large were just not optimistic. They were not satisfied
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with the Trudeau government. Many Canadians back then were either pessimistic or angry.
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I love how they have Nick Nanos on who, and again, I don't think he, he doesn't ring his numbers in
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any way. I sometimes don't like the methodology they use at times, but you can still track their
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polls over time. And at least if they have the consistent methodology, you'll get the feeling
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of momentum, whether it's going in this direction or that direction. And still CTV news and Nick Nanos
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are still basically having to say, well, it's better than Trudeau was in 2023.
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Better than Trudeau in 2023. What kind of, what kind of baseline are we using here?
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The thing about Mark Carney's current position is that it's so early. It's so early for having Mark
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Carney falling off this hard. He should be massively ahead in the national polls, in the party side.
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And then of course, you're going to have a positive approval rating. You're a new prime minister that
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not enough people really know well enough to hate you. Even when Trudeau,
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liberals started falling behind in 2018 and 2019 behind the conservatives in many of the polls,
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Trudeau still genuinely had a positive approval rating because it was his first term and people
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are willing to think nice things of you on a personal level in your first term until they feel
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like you're personally malicious. Canadians are going to be nice and say, oh, he's probably an okay guy.
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Are you going to vote for his party? No, but you know, he's probably a nice guy. And the media is
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still pushing the idea. Well, you know, and you even have this in the, the, the little post that
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CBC watch or who's a great account on X put up. And it says, well, Carney has a, I love that what he
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says here. Liberals ran away from Trudeau, but just couldn't run the disaster caused by Trudeau's
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policies. Quote, Nano says the two parties are in a statistical dead heat. Unquote. Quote, you know,
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this speaks to the fact that Justin Trudeau is a negative lightning rod for the liberal party.
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And then it's, he, then he goes on to say, Carney was the rap over the liberal jalopy with the
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promise of stellar negotiating skills, skills that have been demonstrated through, demonstrably
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proven. Something about this is, is kind of worded weird. Skills that have demonstrated through
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those promises illusory as the cheap rapids melted over. There was something weird there. Okay.
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I did, I did get his point there though, that yeah, like the idea that they're still talking
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about now they're almost trying to invoke Trudeau's name to try and put some shine on
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Carney here. Like not as bad. Okay. No doubt in the future, I'm going to bring up more liberals
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trying to talk good, you know, trying to pretend what Carney's been doing on trade has been good.
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It hasn't been. And the more they have to reach, the more they're just proving that Carney's
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performance so far has been fairly dull. But anyways, that should be it for this video guys.
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If you live in the city of Calgary, one, make sure you vote for Sonia Sharp and get a lawn
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signed for her. But also I'm going to be releasing my Alberta municipal selections or my endorsements
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in the next couple of days here. We're past early voting, early voting in Calgary is pretty sluggish
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so far, which is great because I do feel like a lot of people are fired up for voting for Sonia,
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but not the other candidates. But I'm going to be doing a list of people I endorse from mayor,
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counselors, school board trustees, and then I'll probably throw in some mayors for other
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cities and towns. So in like Medicine Hat, I endorsed Drew Barnes. In Edmonton, I guess I endorsed
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Raheem Jaffer. Tim Cartmel is closer to Andrew Knack, but that's a race where 50% of people are undecided
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and everything is shifting around a lot. I think that the problem is everyone's going to be stuck
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with Andrew Knack in Edmonton. And then I'll try and endorse some people in other towns. You'll just
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have to scroll down to see if I got to your town. Probably not. There are a lot of municipalities in
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this province and I do not have the time of day to pay attention to them all. Maybe next time I do
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something like this, maybe even in another province, I'd love for people to send me recommendations
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and evidence that this person can actually win and that they're actually conservative.
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And I'll try and make selections based on that. But anyways, with that all being said,
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