The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - Liberals' fake patriotism games hurting Canadians with trade war (ft. Greg Staley)

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, welcome back to the Wyatt Claypool Show. Everything's insane right now with the coming

00:00:07.060 trade war between the U.S. and Canada, and to break it down with me, I am bringing on Greg

00:00:13.640 Staley from Diverge Media. We are of like minds on this issue, but Greg is a far better research

00:00:19.820 than I, and so we're going to be doing a video where part one is on my channel and part two will

00:00:26.060 be linked in the description below and pinned to the top of the comments on Diverge Media's channel,

00:00:31.880 so I encourage you guys to watch this conversation here, and then when we transition to other topics,

00:00:37.660 it will be on Greg's channel. Well worth the subscription to his channel, but Greg, how are

00:00:43.400 you doing? How is the trade war treating you so far? Or I guess it doesn't start till Tuesday, so.

00:00:48.940 Yeah, it's early yet. We don't know what it's actually going to look like, but

00:00:53.280 all the rhetoric from our leaders is not promising. If you understand how tariffs work and you

00:01:00.660 understand this, you know, I get the idea of like, oh, a bully's punching you, like the way

00:01:05.580 they're framing it, right? If somebody's hitting you, you hit them back. What they don't tell you

00:01:09.860 is it's kind of like a boxer punching themselves in the face with an uppercut when they go to swing

00:01:13.960 at the other opponent. They're just going, they knock themselves in the teeth. That's kind of what

00:01:18.720 we're proposing here from our premieres. By punching ourselves in the face, we'll get back

00:01:24.400 at the enemy. And why I am naming this part of the video the Liberals' fake patriotism game is 0.87

00:01:32.340 because that's what's going on right now. It feels like the Liberals and other Liberal-like

00:01:37.500 politicians like Doug Ford are using a fight like Donald Trump to push up their own popularity.

00:01:42.960 That if you're pro-Canada, well, now you have to be pro-Trudeau Liberal because they're representing

00:01:49.020 Canada. Doug Ford represents Canada. So how could you dislike Doug Ford? You can't agree with Trump,

00:01:55.460 even though he's technically right on a bunch of stuff. And I don't agree with Trump putting on

00:01:59.560 the tariffs. But I don't want to divorce myself from the reality that we don't do a good job on

00:02:05.480 board security or port security. But I'm going to start with this and then we can discuss a little bit

00:02:10.200 as we go on. Anita Anand, our Minister of Transportation and International Trade,

00:02:16.300 who has blocked me, by the way. I just wanted to use her profile here just to demonstrate

00:02:21.700 why we're not taken seriously. So she's retweeted Jonathan Wilkinson here, Liberal MP and Minister,

00:02:28.100 saying, Canada has done nothing to provoke tariffs. But I want to reassure each and every Canadian,

00:02:35.020 no matter who you are or where you live, we are prepared and ready to fight for you.

00:02:40.200 We will always be your champions. And then I just want to get to this post too, where

00:02:43.760 it's Anita Anand at a Toronto trade event. And she says,

00:02:48.300 today I met with the Committee on International Trade in Toronto. We discussed the Canadian Free

00:02:53.520 Trade Agreement, mutual recognition, labor mobility and other secretarial priorities that will cut

00:03:00.040 red tape and make it easier to do business within Canada. We are committed to kickstarting. And then

00:03:05.220 it goes on about all the great things they're going to do for Canada's economy.

00:03:08.140 I don't believe them. You've lived in the same country as I have, Greg. How has the government

00:03:14.120 in the province that you used to live, Ontario, done to make Canada's business community more robust?

00:03:20.860 Yeah. Yeah, I know. We've had nine years of the Trudeau Liberals. And really, with the Ontario

00:03:28.020 government, you've had a continuation of the Kathleen Wynne Liberal policies. I mean, Doug Ford ran on

00:03:34.040 rhetoric of the Conservatives. He ran on cuts for the middle class. He ran on what most Conservatives

00:03:40.580 still want, and then quickly ran to the Liberal side of the aisle with his policies. He's DEI Doug.

00:03:46.780 He's pushing all the same woke rhetoric through our schools. He's pushing all the same corporate welfare

00:03:51.940 that you would have seen under the Liberals, just with different winners and losers. There's really

00:03:57.260 no marketable change. Their deficit, actually, Fraser Institute posted this, and I put it up on Twitter.

00:04:04.100 If we would have just kept the same per capita spending under Doug Ford as we had under Kathleen Wynne,

00:04:10.760 there would actually be $24 billion less debt in Ontario than there currently is. So this idea that

00:04:17.120 Doug Ford is some bastion of fiscal conservatism or a conservative in any way, shape, or form

00:04:22.820 is so far removed from the truth. He's very good with rhetoric. He knows what Conservatives want to hear.

00:04:27.940 But when it comes down to policies, he says one thing to your face, then he puts on his red suit,

00:04:34.000 and he joins the Liberals, and he goes and does whatever they would have done on steroids. That's

00:04:38.480 what we've seen out of the Liberals. And I mean, of course, conservatives.

00:04:42.460 Yeah. And the thing is, what I get so annoyed with, with this whole tariff situation, is how

00:04:47.100 un-nuanced people want to be. Again, I don't actually think Trump is fully right about the trade

00:04:53.100 deficit. Trade deficits don't really matter. Obviously, the US brings in more Canadian

00:04:59.440 products than Canada brings in US products because they get so many raw materials from us

00:05:04.340 because we are a cheap country to extract raw materials from. We're obviously not going to

00:05:09.280 send them minerals and then buy minerals back from them. There's always going to be a trade imbalance.

00:05:14.440 There's no such thing as a fair trade deal. And it's not because it's always going to be unfair

00:05:20.120 for one side. It's always fair for both sides if one side is getting one thing cheaper than they

00:05:25.700 could have done themselves. And the other side is getting things in exchange for that. It's fair

00:05:30.200 for both sides. So I reject Trump. It's Trump's idea that trade is unfair if the US imports more than

00:05:37.140 they export. That's just how trade works. If one country like China is doing something cheaper than

00:05:42.960 America can do, that makes sense that you're getting more from them. I'm in favor of tariffs on

00:05:47.760 countries that are up to no good like China. But that's a different conversation. But on the Canadian

00:05:52.960 side, I even see Canadian conservatives, not even fake conservatives like Doug Ford, but like real

00:05:57.880 orthodox conservatives doing this pantomime that, well, Trump doesn't actually have a real reason to tear

00:06:05.040 up us like kind of does. I still disagree with it being done at the speed he's been doing it. But I think

00:06:10.880 Trump is running up against the fact that he thinks that his presidency is going to become very cooled off in

00:06:16.420 two years after the midterms. And so he's moving way faster than I think is appropriate to. But at the

00:06:22.420 same time, the way not to monologue too much the way the Canadian politicians are treating this is

00:06:27.840 that because Trump told us to get our ports under control and get the border under control, then it's

00:06:32.840 not actually a serious issue because Trump asked us.

00:06:35.460 Yeah. And to that point, there is nothing that isn't beneficial in Canada's interest or in Ontario's

00:06:42.660 interest or any of the provinces for that matter, shoring up the border and ensuring that illicit

00:06:47.700 drugs, illicit guns, all sorts of illicit crime doesn't happen through our border. If it benefits the

00:06:52.700 United States, it benefits Canada. But to act as though, again, from Trump's standpoint, like this trade

00:06:59.880 imbalance conversation is so misguided. Of course, a country of 40 million people is not going to need 1.00

00:07:06.240 as many cars, for instance, as America is going to buy. So why would there be an imbalance there? Of

00:07:12.420 course, 40 million people aren't going to be able to purchase as many cars as 300 plus million people

00:07:17.200 are. So of course, you're going to see imbalances. But the benefits of trade and the integration is

00:07:22.040 numerous. And that should be what's focused on. And I just want to point out, you're in very good

00:07:26.600 company when it comes to your thoughts on trade and tariffs, because Harvard educated economist

00:07:31.720 Thomas Sowell has very similar opinions on this. In fact, criticized Trump in his first, his first

00:07:38.440 bout as president, because of the tariffs that he's presenting and talked about how it would hurt

00:07:42.680 Americans. So back to this idea, again, that Canada is putting on this rhetoric that we need to fight the

00:07:48.680 Americans are the best thing we can do. As we had this conversation, you know, off air, a couple days

00:07:54.760 ago on the phone is like, let's make Canada a super competitive business environment. Let's make

00:07:59.720 this the go place, a go to place to do business. Let's make it cheap, affordable. And let's become

00:08:05.880 super competitive. But the last thing we should be doing is punishing Canadians by pretending we're

00:08:10.680 fighting for them and putting on retaliatory tariffs that are going to hurt us in the process.

00:08:16.440 Make no mistake about it, these tariffs America's putting on, Americans are going to see that in this

00:08:21.320 idea of American affordability that Trump's pushed, it's going to come home to ruse with these tariffs

00:08:25.400 that he's pushing.

00:08:26.280 And I will get accused of, oh, you're siding with Trump. And I think both of us are of a same mind

00:08:32.040 on this, just as you like inferred there before, that I'm like a Canadian patriot, you are a Canadian

00:08:37.960 patriot, I am not a nationalist, in the sense that I would consider the difference between patriotism

00:08:43.480 and nationalism is nationalism is we should, we're always right, we should always win, and all stuff like

00:08:50.200 that, where patriotism is I want my country to be better in the best way possible for the long run.

00:08:55.560 And I see people saying, see, this is why trading with the US was always bad, because now they have

00:08:59.960 leverage on us and whatnot. It's like, guys, we have not been losing jobs to the Americans, we have not

00:09:04.920 been getting hurt by the Americans by trading with them. We've always been hurt by our own bad domestic 0.96

00:09:09.960 policy. If the Trump administration put a 25% tariff on us, but we didn't have sky high business and

00:09:16.760 income and personal income taxes in this country, it would have put us in a position where we would be

00:09:22.680 less worse off than we are today. But pre tariff, our pre tariff economic condition already sucks.

00:09:29.720 And I just want to reference this quick before I get to some other people's takes on social media

00:09:33.640 for us to talk about. But this is a report from September 29, 2023. BC mayor sounds alarm over rampant

00:09:41.880 crime at local port as expansion looms. And it says City of Delta report says CBSA checks less than

00:09:49.080 1% of container traffic coming through regional ports. And I even just had a disagreement right

00:09:55.800 before you came on the show with Anthony Koch on X, who I usually agree with Anthony Koch like 95% of the

00:10:02.520 time. But he says, he said in response to me, well, how many containers do US port authorities check?

00:10:09.000 And I was just thinking it does it literally doesn't matter. The whole point is that Trump

00:10:13.240 and the US administration has a point that we don't really take this stuff seriously. Frank

00:10:17.880 Vaughn has been doing great videos showing that CSIS reports that have been declassified from the 90s

00:10:22.600 were saying that the government, the CCP governments in China were basically working with Chinese triads to

00:10:29.160 get drug products into Canada then to be made into street drugs to then be sold in Canada and the US.

00:10:36.280 And Canada is the easiest place that they identified to get it through. So maybe they

00:10:41.320 don't check any of the containers in Canada. But at the end of the day, when it comes to politics,

00:10:45.480 that doesn't matter. We what we should have done and what my approach on Trump would have been

00:10:49.880 is what we would have done was what Scott Moe and Daniel Smith have done.

00:10:53.800 Ramp up border security, then call their bluff, ramp up military spending, ramp up border security

00:10:59.160 federally, then call Trump's bluff. And if Trump says, I'm doing the 25% tariff anyways,

00:11:03.960 guess what? Now he is the villain to all of the states that mostly trade with Canada. And it's

00:11:09.800 the majority of the states that their biggest export and import market is with Canada. That's

00:11:14.680 where you call his bluff. And now he looks bad for the midterms. You have to play the American political

00:11:19.640 game just as much as you play the Canadian political game. But I find Canadian politicians

00:11:24.120 are only focused on what makes them look good to Canadian voters in the short run.

00:11:28.040 Yeah, that's a good way to say it. Because again, it's not about winning the battle. We're looking

00:11:34.120 at a war. And so if you want to win the battle, and you want to look good for the next election,

00:11:38.280 that's great. But you're going to hurt Canadians in the long run. And in terms of calling his bluff,

00:11:42.360 I it is long graded on me, it's been uncomfortable watching Canadian leaders. Like, I've said this

00:11:49.960 numerous times, Trump has a big ego. I'm not knocking on one way or another. But like,

00:11:55.080 why would you pick a public fight with a guy? Go do the things that are good for Canadians,

00:11:59.880 and then have those conversations behind closed doors. But now you're goading him

00:12:03.720 into a public tariff war, or guess what, he's going to feel the need to win, which means to

00:12:08.920 the detriment of Canadians. And you have pushed that through your rhetoric by essentially saying,

00:12:14.360 well, we're not going to stand for it. We're fighting. Just relax. Have those conversations

00:12:19.000 behind closed doors. Don't make it a public war.

00:12:20.680 Yeah, they're treating it like compliance with what Trump wants is like a fundamental spiritual

00:12:26.840 Canadian sin. And it's like, guys, Columbia did it, and they don't have tariffs on them.

00:12:31.960 And you could say, well, that's not what a country is all about. You have to have patriotism and pride.

00:12:36.280 You can't just do what the Americans want. I'm not even saying that. Like, I'm just saying that,

00:12:39.960 guys, you got caught with your pants down, that you weren't doing proper border security,

00:12:44.200 that the Americans have been flipping your security bill for the military for decades at this point.

00:12:49.640 You got caught with your pants down. He called you out in a way that I didn't think was appropriate.

00:12:53.880 But what are you going to do? Pretend that you didn't? Because that's where we're kind of at.

00:12:58.360 And I just want to jump over to this post that this Andrew Perez guy made. He was the one who,

00:13:03.320 by the way, the other day, tried to accuse Firopoli in December of being a sexist or disagreeing

00:13:09.000 with that female reporter. And so I just want to read what his take is. I'm not going to go through

00:13:15.320 all of it. But I find this is, again, the patriotism game that's being played that I find to be quite

00:13:20.920 gross. So Andrew Perez says, I don't care if you're a New Democrat, Liberal, Conservative,

00:13:25.960 Green or Quebec Sovereignist. We must now come together to project a united approach

00:13:31.720 as Canadians in light of the Trump tariffs. These tariffs could cripple our national economy,

00:13:36.600 leading to an economic depression that hits Canadian workers and their families hard.

00:13:41.000 Canada was thrust into a wartime era today, albeit a trade war, not one involving combat and death.

00:13:47.480 The economic impacts of the trade war could far eclipse the economic fallout withstood

00:13:52.840 throughout the 2008-2009 Great Recession and the more recent COVID-19 pandemic. Now,

00:13:58.600 it's not the time for partisanship and further polarization in our country. We'll get through this,

00:14:03.480 Canada, but not through dividing our people and playing partisan politics. I sincerely hope our

00:14:08.760 political leaders are up to the Herculean task. The livelihoods of millions of hard-working

00:14:14.760 Canadians hang in the balance. I broke my promise. I did read that whole thing.

00:14:19.240 Can we just clarify the framing? If you don't agree with Trudeau's approach,

00:14:23.640 you're not Team Canada. You're part of them.

00:14:27.240 If you don't agree with how we go, then you're not a part of Team Canada. You're fundamentally opposed

00:14:33.160 to Team Canada. You don't agree with the liberal approach to this.

00:14:36.280 Yeah, it's part... The BC Conservatives have honestly been doing an A++ job on this.

00:14:42.040 They are calling out David Eby saying, you know your province is rife with drugs, just

00:14:47.720 strewn with illegal drugs, including drugs provided by the government. You know that the Port Authority is

00:14:53.480 not actually looking into these shipping containers. You've been the one destroying the economy over the

00:14:58.200 past few years, and now you're going to say it's Trump's fault? We don't even agree exactly with

00:15:02.200 what Trump's doing, but that's the fakeness of Team Canada. Team Canada is helping Doug Ford get

00:15:07.480 reelected. Team Canada is forgiving the liberals and voting for Mark Carney. Team Canada is ignoring the

00:15:13.320 man behind the curtain in British Columbia's drug problems, which is David Eby and the BCNDP,

00:15:19.240 and it's saying that actually it's very nasty and bad that Trump called us out for having our pants down.

00:15:24.520 And it's like, that's what's kind of going on here. Yeah. Now, Sam Cooper has done a very good

00:15:29.800 job of exposing exactly what's going on through the BC ports and through essentially money laundering

00:15:35.480 in the Canadian system. So to act as though these things aren't legitimate problems is a farce.

00:15:41.320 Then again, back to this 1% of containers being checked. Again, you're going to make a comparison

00:15:46.760 to the United States. It doesn't matter what they're doing. If you're looking at it objectively from a

00:15:51.720 Canadian standpoint, we should want as many things being checked as possible to ensure

00:15:56.440 that Canadians aren't facing illicit drugs, crime going through our ports. We should have a legal

00:16:02.360 and lawful system. We should be ensuring that happens. But look, Greg, look at this video of

00:16:07.480 Justin Trudeau nodding his head and talking to people from Unifor. Look at it. Look at that. He's

00:16:12.280 not even looking at that man in the eyes, but forget about that. And this is what the entire trade war,

00:16:18.040 patriotism farce, is all about. We're standing up for Canadian workers. We're doing what needs to

00:16:23.160 get done. And then Trudeau is also posting stuff like this. And thanks, King of Bay Street and some

00:16:29.640 guy from Dragon's Den. Tariffs would be bad for business on both sides of the border. Glad you're

00:16:34.360 on Team Canada standing up for Canada, or on the team standing up for Canada. And he says,

00:16:40.120 no one on either side of the border wants to see American tariffs on Canadian goods. I met with our

00:16:45.080 Canadian U.S. Council today. We're working hard to prevent these terrorists. But if the United

00:16:50.040 States moves ahead, Canada is ready with a forceful and immediate response. And it's like, oh, my

00:16:55.480 goodness, guys, I know you're not. The thing was what they did on the border is that while Smith was

00:17:01.160 actually ramping up border security, got 10 cold weather drones on the border, 50 new sheriffs,

00:17:06.040 all this stuff, probably had to transfer some people from other policing departments

00:17:09.960 to the border because it is an emergency in terms of the incoming trade war.

00:17:16.040 She actually did her job. Trudeau releases a plan. And haven't we seen this so many times,

00:17:21.560 the way the Liberals put forward a plan to crack down on this or that in terms of crime or drugs?

00:17:28.040 And then you don't see it.

00:17:28.920 Yeah. And I think Trump had commented about that in a press conference where he essentially stated

00:17:34.920 it was not him particularly. I guess their equivalent of a minister was talking about it.

00:17:41.160 It's not just the rhetoric around it saying we will do this. It's also the execution was their point.

00:17:47.000 So you can have a plan as the Liberals have presented, just like they had a liberal housing

00:17:51.160 plan and a plan for the middle class. And we see how all those plans panned out just like they had a

00:17:57.080 plan to balance the budget, AKA it will balance itself. Like this doesn't work. You need to execute

00:18:03.240 what you say. Words don't matter. And you're getting called out essentially by the Americans 0.97

00:18:08.680 and say, you can say whatever nice things you want to say, show us results. And if you're not

00:18:13.160 going to show us results, this is going to continue. Now, I don't agree with it. I think it hurts Americans.

00:18:18.520 It's going to hurt Canadians in the process, especially if we go the retaliatory route.

00:18:23.320 But this is where we're at. And you need to face things as they are, not as you wish they would be.

00:18:28.920 Well, I thought I was blown away. Melanie Jolie, our foreign affairs minister, shows up to talk to

00:18:34.200 American senators. I don't need to show that on screen, but she starts meeting with mostly Democrats,

00:18:39.480 of course, but just starts meeting with a bunch of random senators, taking photos with them. We talked

00:18:45.320 about Canada and U.S.'s shared commitment on this or that. It's like, why are you doing this three days

00:18:50.360 before February 1st? Why? This is so pathetic that you're doing this, like, last minute, pretending

00:18:57.720 like you cave a crap. These people never took a second to say, Trump wants us to work on border 1.00

00:19:02.520 security. Well, let's sit down and let's also talk about where the U.S. needs to ramp up border

00:19:06.120 security. By the way, the U.S. is ramping up border security at the same time, because it's not like

00:19:10.840 Donald Trump thought Joe Biden was doing a good job. That was his entire campaign, that the U.S.

00:19:15.720 domestic administration sucked at border security as well. So this is actually one of those things

00:19:20.920 where Canada could have easily, if we didn't want to immediately jump into anti-American Canadian

00:19:26.280 politics, which fair enough, it's a big vote getter sometimes. Without jumping into anti-American

00:19:33.560 politics, we could have just done a win-win thing where America called us out, but we're calling you

00:19:38.040 guys out too. But we'll agree we'll get the border secured, but you guys got to do it as soon as you

00:19:42.280 take office as well, Trump. Would have been good. Would have been very good. And we could have talked

00:19:46.760 about all the guns and whatnot that are going to Somali gangs in downtown Toronto and other rural

00:19:52.200 gangs around Canada. We could easily look tough while also doing what they said. We could have said,

00:19:57.800 okay, we'll do this, but you have to give us that. It would have looked like a one-to-one issue

00:20:02.600 that, okay, yes, we weren't doing this, but you guys weren't doing this. Right now, like I keep saying,

00:20:08.120 it looks like we got caught with our pants down and we want to keep yelling. No, we didn't.

00:20:11.480 No, we didn't. No, we didn't until the tariffs finally probably are going to make us comply.

00:20:16.680 And again, I'm monologuing a bit, but Trump said in response to the Canadian government saying,

00:20:22.520 we'll put one dollar for dollar tariffs on you. He said, well, I'll raise to 35% then. I'm like,

00:20:26.600 okay, thanks for spiraling us into the skies. And it's not like, oh, do you not think that Canada

00:20:31.320 should respond proportionally? We can't. We are not a proportionally sized economy. I'm sorry. I'm not

00:20:37.160 anti-Canadian for recognizing we're 10 times smaller than them. And this is the conversation

00:20:42.040 I've been having behind closed doors with people. It's like, okay, can we hurt Americans? Yes. Can

00:20:47.320 they hurt us? Yes. Can we go as long as they can in a terror form? Absolutely not. It's not even close.

00:20:52.920 So why go down that path to begin with? Like, can we hurt Americans? Yes. Is that the response you

00:20:59.000 want where you go tit for tat? Because they're going to win the war. They got a longer and deeper

00:21:04.280 pocket than we do. And so it's just a matter of time. Like, why would you go down that road? And

00:21:08.760 then go back to your idea. This could have been collaborative. None of this should have been

00:21:12.680 happening in the public eye. It should have been behind closed doors. Hey, like we agree. Maybe we

00:21:17.800 have dropped the ball here on this issue and we've let it go by the wayside too long. Thanks for pointing

00:21:23.400 it out. Here's how we can have a collaborative approach. We see some of these issues on the US side

00:21:27.480 that affect us. Maybe you do this. And then if it doesn't happen in a collaborative way behind

00:21:31.960 closed doors, that's when it should be leaked to the public. But this, again, is a political issue

00:21:37.000 where they can benefit off the idea that I'm going to stand up for Ontario or I'm going to stand up for

00:21:43.400 Canada and we will fight for you. And you're so right about that. What you do is you negotiate in

00:21:49.000 good faith. And if they're not, you collect all that information and you dump it in front of the public.

00:21:53.960 Because again, the Republicans could get easily hurt in midterm elections along the border with

00:22:00.680 Canada, with all those states that do a lot of trade with Canada, including all the way down to

00:22:05.320 Louisiana. Their main export import market is still Canada. What you do is that if you were acting in

00:22:11.320 good faith and you were doing everything that seemed reasonable to do and they weren't, then you can

00:22:15.480 basically dump that onto American voters and say, your president is about to make all your goods in

00:22:21.320 Oregon and Washington and Idaho and Montana, way more expensive. There are vulnerable congressional

00:22:26.680 seats for Republicans in those states. There is like the county I sometimes go to in Flathead

00:22:34.600 Valley in Montana. That's a purple congressional district. It can go either way. And Trump does

00:22:40.760 not have a big majority. So if we didn't actually make ourselves the villains in the American voters' 0.54

00:22:45.960 eye by not doing anything on the border except for Smith and now Moe, we could have easily pulled

00:22:51.160 off this strategy. But now I just want to quickly jump to Polyev's comments because I think I don't

00:22:55.960 necessarily agree with it. I don't know why he's doing it this way. And then I want to transition,

00:23:00.680 and this was going to be in part two on Greg's channel, into the specific what's going on in

00:23:05.640 Ontario. How is Doug Ford, in my mind, cynically using this tariff war for his own political game.

00:23:12.680 But Polyev here, I'm not going to read this all, but he talks about needing a Canada first plan

00:23:18.440 on trade. And number one, he immediately says we need retaliatory dollar for dollar tariffs.

00:23:23.880 Number two, right out of the liberal media textbook, Canada first dollar for dollar tariffs,

00:23:29.880 like two liberal talk points. We're on the same consulting type talk points that you would hear

00:23:35.320 out of the liberal camp. That bothers me a little bit. In fact, that was actually technically

00:23:39.480 Jagmeet Singh's idea even before is the liberal's idea. He says put all tariff revenues into helping

00:23:44.920 affected workers. Well, what do you mean? It's all workers. There's no such thing as affected workers.

00:23:49.480 It'd be everybody. In fact, usually the workers who is going to affect the most are already the biggest

00:23:54.120 recipients of subsidies and other protections. And then some of the other stuff's good with trying

00:24:00.040 to reduce taxes and regulations and get risk of anti-energy stuff. But I thought number six,

00:24:05.400 this is actually the thing we should have been doing in December. Rebuild our military. So it's

00:24:09.960 not showing up yet. Rebuild our military and take back control of our borders to regain the confidence

00:24:15.000 of our partners, assert our sovereignty, protect our people and put Canada first. Perfect. That is the

00:24:21.400 one that we needed to actually be talking about. But, and I get where Polioff's coming from. He's having

00:24:27.960 to play to the Eastern Canadian voter in Toronto's 905 who want to hear it's Trump's fault. And so the

00:24:35.400 first five points, like the first two points are it's Trump's fault and we need to protect ourselves.

00:24:39.960 The middle three points or the middle two points are okay stuff around the fact we need lower

00:24:45.160 regulations and we need to get rid of bad energy policies, anti-energy policies. And then the last 0.69

00:24:50.360 one is frankly the number one priority. And I hate the inversion that's gone on here.

00:24:55.480 Yeah. It bothers me a little bit because it's, I had this issue during COVID where you watched

00:25:02.200 conservatives play the game of, if we know something is correct, then we lead with that,

00:25:08.840 even if it's politically inconvenient in the short term. And this would be an example.

00:25:13.320 Is it politically inconvenient in the short term to say, listen, we shouldn't go toe to toe with Trump,

00:25:18.200 even though we believe he's in the wrong? Absolutely. People want to hear you say,

00:25:22.280 we're going to stand up. We're going to fight. Is it the right thing for Canada to do? No.

00:25:26.760 It was the same during COVID. Was it right to lock down the economy and basically hurt everywhere,

00:25:32.600 in carte blanche and be super heavy handed and throw away the charter of rights and freedoms?

00:25:37.400 Absolutely not. But that's what they did because it was politically expedient. And then as they

00:25:42.600 put their finger up in the air, saw the wind of direction changing politically,

00:25:46.040 suddenly we watched the shift from the conservatives, but there was a handful of

00:25:50.520 politicians that were, were steadfast all the way. And one of those was Jim Carhalos and Belinda

00:25:56.760 Carhalos of the new blue party in Ontario, who Belinda Carhalos removed from the Ontario PC party

00:26:03.720 for voting against, I think it was bill 195. Bill that would have gave Doug Ford power to essentially

00:26:09.880 do away with every elected official. They wouldn't have to take their vote and he would have been able

00:26:14.120 to carte blanche do whatever he wanted through emergency orders month by month and just continue

00:26:18.760 to renew them for up to two years. Yeah. That's what got her kicked out of that party. That's, 1.00

00:26:23.160 this is an example. We need the lead. We know what's right. It's going to be politically inconvenient

00:26:29.320 in the short term, but it's the right thing. And leadership is convincing people in the long run.

00:26:34.120 Yeah. This is where I give so much credit right now to John Rustad and the BC Conservatives,

00:26:38.760 also Daniel Smith and Scott Moe get some credit too. But in terms of an oppositional party who could,

00:26:44.200 be easily scared into doing the wrong thing. Cause Hey, we're the smaller party. We're not in power.

00:26:49.240 You know, just say nothing. We don't want to get slapped around. We know our,

00:26:52.600 maybe our voting coalition's a bit fragile because we only had 2% in the last election

00:26:57.640 and we only searched for this election, but like it is the right thing to do. You call your shots early,

00:27:03.720 you call how this thing is going to go down, and then you reap the rewards of being right in the long

00:27:09.000 run. That's why I will sometimes side against conservatives quote unquote, oftentimes they're

00:27:13.400 not very conservative people. And then in the long run, it's like, well, you were kind of right

00:27:17.320 about that. I'm like, yeah, I kind of was. And I know some people are saying, why you predicted the

00:27:21.480 tariffs weren't going to happen before all this went down. Oh, it doesn't look like you're really

00:27:26.040 correct these days. It's like, I didn't count on my big mistake was not counting on the crushing

00:27:31.000 stupidity of politicians. That was your mistake. You should have seen it coming. 1.00

00:27:37.240 Always the stupid, my big mistake is accounting for other people to be somewhat logical. 0.99

00:27:42.520 Anyways, now we're going to transition to part two on Greg's channel, Diverge Media. Guys, 0.98

00:27:47.880 that link will be in the description as well as pinned at the top of the comments. I want to talk about

00:27:53.000 Ontario with this Ontario refugee right here. So go check that out, guys. That's it for here. 0.98

00:27:59.720 All right. A little coffee.

The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - February 02, 2025

Liberals' fake patriotism games hurting Canadians with trade war (ft. Greg Staley)

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