The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - Liberals have NO good option to replace Trudeau - Freeland vs Carney is embarassing

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here.

00:00:03.120 I hope you all appreciate me because I'm putting my mind and body on the line covering this liberal leadership race.

00:00:09.960 If this liberal leadership race was a prescription drug, it would put a warning on the back not to take them before operating heavy machinery.

00:00:18.120 Because it will put you to sleep.

00:00:21.000 And that is what is reflected in the current polling.

00:00:23.860 Canadians don't care who any of these people are competing to replace Justin Trudeau.

00:00:29.180 The liberals are in massive trouble right now.

00:00:33.080 Their government is deeply corrupt and unpopular and that was already one bad thing or I guess many bad things all combined into that one big issue.

00:00:42.880 But another issue is just the fact that there is not a single person with a big personality who can lead the liberal party.

00:00:49.980 People have said this online over the past week and I think there's a lot of merit to it. 0.84

00:00:55.140 That the liberal party actually probably has the weakest brand of all the federal parties.

00:01:00.440 The NDP and the conservatives, no matter who the leader is, can usually get an average amount of votes for themselves in any given election.

00:01:08.620 When you put a bad leader in for the liberal party, they go from, you know, mid-30s, low-30s, all the way down to 17% like they had with Michael Ignatieff.

00:01:19.220 Stefan Dion was also an awful liberal leader.

00:01:22.300 When you put bad leaders in, the entire party brand completely collapses because the party has only ever been a vehicle for big personalities like Mackenzie King, Pierre Elliott Trudeau, John Chrétien, and then Justin Trudeau.

00:01:36.260 And then Justin Trudeau has proven that even those big personalities, if they screw up too much in office, are not getting re-elected.

00:01:43.960 Anyways, I want to take you through some polling today just to highlight how little anyone cares about these leadership candidates.

00:01:52.280 Christy Clark, Christy Freeland, Mark Carney, nobody cares about them at all.

00:01:57.100 And people are trying to generate some artificial hype around this race like, oh, it's going to be a big fight between Christy Freeland and Mark Carney.

00:02:05.120 Is it going to be a coronation for Mark Carney?

00:02:07.700 Are the liberal party going to all consolidate behind him?

00:02:11.200 If they consolidate behind Mark Carney, it's going to be at gunpoint because nobody actually likes these people.

00:02:17.820 I'm going to keep repeating that as we go, but I'm going to bring up the polls in just a second here.

00:02:22.040 But first, reminder, guys, look at that sign.

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00:02:44.340 In this video, I'm probably not going to be talking about the more fringe candidates like Chandra Aria and Frank Bayless.

00:02:50.260 Frankly, if the liberal party was smart, they'd actually probably want Frank Bayless to be the leader.

00:02:54.460 At least he's a business owner.

00:02:55.880 And that's not something very common for a liberal party leader to be.

00:02:59.740 But let's get into the polls and start out with Justin Trudeau's impression among Canadians.

00:03:05.580 This is all from Abacus Data.

00:03:07.580 I think David Coletto does a really good job of organizing how he collects the data.

00:03:12.560 And right now, Justin Trudeau, unsurprisingly, is at the worst approval rating of his entire time as prime minister.

00:03:19.260 He has a negative rating of 64%.

00:03:22.080 64% of Canadians have a bad impression of him.

00:03:25.440 Only 19% of Canadians have a good impression of him.

00:03:28.860 The fact that that fell from 23%, which was already, like, monumentally low for a prime minister,

00:03:35.460 demonstrates, I'm guessing, that really Trudeau only had that high of an approval rating.

00:03:41.860 Because anyone saying they're voting liberal, they're not going to do it masochistically and saying,

00:03:46.160 I hate Justin Trudeau, but I'll still vote liberal.

00:03:48.360 So the people who are voting liberal are just saying, I guess I like Trudeau.

00:03:51.780 And now that you don't have to like him anymore because he's on his way out, now there's about a 4% drop of liberal supporters

00:03:58.960 even willing to say that they have a somewhat positive impression of him.

00:04:02.580 That's very funny.

00:04:03.840 But now, let's move on to the—actually, no, let's not move on yet, because I want to talk about Jagmeet Singh for a second.

00:04:09.200 Man, as soon as Justin Trudeau's gone and people now have to re-evaluate if they actually like Jagmeet Singh or not,

00:04:17.200 since Trudeau's no longer around to contrast him with,

00:04:20.100 man, that guy is having the biggest soft more slump of a leader I've ever seen.

00:04:25.220 Look at this.

00:04:26.240 We went from a negative 39% disapproval rating, which was already bad,

00:04:31.620 jumped up to 42%, and his positive approval rating fell from 31% to 28%.

00:04:37.200 That is impossibly bad for an NDP leader.

00:04:42.060 NDP leaders, and I've said this in the past, it is true.

00:04:44.680 And by the way, Polyev is still positive right now, positive rating 41% to negative rating of 38%.

00:04:50.660 But NDP leaders usually have a very easy time having like a positive impression

00:04:56.880 because nobody thinks they're going to be prime minister.

00:04:58.760 And if the guy has no chance of being prime minister or influencing politics that much,

00:05:04.380 well, just say he's a nice guy.

00:05:06.140 You know, that's kind of the nice person thing to do.

00:05:08.840 Just assume that he's a good guy, good person.

00:05:13.200 Jack Layton generally probably was a good guy.

00:05:16.020 Tom Mulcair generally was probably a good guy.

00:05:18.420 They're unthreatening, so you don't really have to have negative feelings towards them.

00:05:22.600 Because of Jagmeet Singh's partnering with Trudeau to help him pass legislation,

00:05:26.680 dude, that changed fast because he actually exposed how much of a radical crank he is

00:05:31.760 to the general public.

00:05:34.000 And so all of the default goodwill towards the Liberals or towards the NDP leader immediately went out the window.

00:05:41.500 So here is a chart, and two of these people, or I believe actually three of them, are not running for leadership.

00:05:47.200 But here are some of the Liberal leadership candidates.

00:05:50.460 Melanie Jolie, Anita Anand, and Dominic LeBlanc are all three not actually running for leader.

00:05:56.440 I talked about it in one of my last videos. Melanie Jolie put out this utterly pathetic statement. 0.93

00:06:01.540 She's like, oh, I knew I was ready to be the Liberals' first female leader, but just, you know, not now. 0.96

00:06:06.580 It's like, don't say that you are, like, absolutely ready when you're not actually willing to even throw your hat in the ring.

00:06:13.440 But this question from Abacus Data asks Canadians, basically, if they know these people, please tell us who you think that person is.

00:06:22.180 If you don't know, please select don't know.

00:06:24.580 Christy Freeland, 51% of people can name her, 49% can't.

00:06:28.940 Mark Carney, 24% of people can name him, 76% can't.

00:06:33.460 And then Christy Clark, 13% of people can name her, probably all from British Columbia, and 87% can't.

00:06:40.460 That is horrible. Think about it, too.

00:06:43.500 People like Melanie Jolie, Anita Anand, Christy Freeland, they've been in politics, in government now, for a while.

00:06:50.660 Dominic LeBlanc, too.

00:06:52.460 The fact that even Christy Freeland, somebody who has served as the Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister for the last several, a few years,

00:07:00.760 and only half of people can name her, it demonstrates why being so leader-centric for the Liberals has been a net negative for their brand over the long haul.

00:07:13.560 Nobody knows who absolutely any of these people are, and that's a problem.

00:07:18.340 The Conservative Party gets mocked a lot by Liberal Party officials and pundits because, oh, they have some eccentric characters in their caucus.

00:07:27.980 Oh, this person's, like, a very hard-edged Conservative.

00:07:31.560 Oh, like, wow, why do you even let social Conservatives into the party? 0.98

00:07:35.080 I'm a social Conservative myself, by the way, because, oh, they say things that the Canadian public doesn't like on life issues and on other sorts of, like, cultural issues, which is untrue.

00:07:45.200 Canadians are actually far more pro-life, and you actually pull them on specific policies they'd be willing to pass.

00:07:51.040 But the thing is, it's actually very good to have characters in your party, people with big personalities, you know, forceful personalities.

00:08:00.000 It's a good thing.

00:08:01.180 The Liberals think that they are better people because they're more buttoned down, they're more professional, they're more corporate, they're more consultant-like, and it's like, what has that gotten them?

00:08:10.820 Nobody likes any of these people at all.

00:08:13.660 They are, they have, like, they don't have any reputation at all.

00:08:17.940 And isn't that kind of a bad thing when you have to replace a big personality like Justin Trudeau, the only personality they had?

00:08:24.700 And now all these people are going to have to run on platforms and priorities lists that are either going to look exactly the same as Trudeau,

00:08:31.880 or is going to make them look like massive hypocrites because they did the absolute opposite of what they're running on for nine years.

00:08:37.900 Chandra Aria, Christy Clark, and Frank Bayless are all running on getting rid of the carbon tax, even though they supported the carbon tax for years.

00:08:46.280 So what kind of confidence would you have if they became prime minister for, like, the two weeks they will be prime minister, that they'd actually consider scrapping it?

00:08:53.980 So here is something we have, another question.

00:08:58.000 How well do you feel you know these people?

00:09:00.120 That is, who are they and what do they stand for?

00:09:03.180 46% of people, these are all people who actually knew who they were, could name them.

00:09:09.580 46% of people know a lot about Freeland, 34% somewhat, 20% don't know.

00:09:16.080 Mark Carney, even of people who know him, 22% think they know him well, 45% somewhat, 34% don't know.

00:09:23.820 That is abysmal that these people, no one knows anything about them.

00:09:29.080 Here are impressions of leadership candidates among people who actually know who they are.

00:09:34.580 And obviously, this is going to skew liberal in terms of who knows them, so you shouldn't be too shocked that there's a lot of positivity overall.

00:09:42.920 But it's not that positive considering, and these are among people, those who know them well.

00:09:48.120 49% of people who think they know Christy Freeland well have a positive impression, 33% negative.

00:09:53.960 Mark Carney, 55% positive, 21% negative.

00:09:57.300 Christy Clark, 38% positive, 34% negative.

00:10:01.780 It's just horrible.

00:10:03.040 Openness to voting liberal, if the individual is a leader, 47%.

00:10:07.900 And I think you have to, in this question, you still have to have known them at least somewhat.

00:10:15.120 47% are still inaccessible to voting Freeland, 45% Carney, 50% Christy Clark.

00:10:22.640 And the definitely accessible ratings are the things that really matter.

00:10:26.480 Freeland is the best out of all of them, which is pathetic, because her definitely accessible rating is 27%.

00:10:32.340 Accessible, it doesn't even say that I am absolutely going to vote.

00:10:35.840 That's just saying I'm absolutely willing to consider voting for this person.

00:10:39.580 Possibly is like, well, I'll see, depending on what they do.

00:10:43.200 Definitely is like, generally what I see makes me think I could vote for them.

00:10:46.980 But Carney has a 23% rating.

00:10:49.540 Christy Clark, 16%.

00:10:50.980 I have been hearing that Mark Carney is the man to beat in this race.

00:10:55.040 23% of people would be definitely willing to consider voting for the Liberal Party if he's the leader.

00:11:01.880 Less than a quarter of people are willing to even deign the thought of voting for this man, for the Liberal Party if this man's the leader.

00:11:10.140 And this is only counting people who even know who he is.

00:11:14.720 23%.

00:11:15.120 Like, the rest of people are like, you're going to have to, like, you know, maybe, like, I had to warm up to you first.

00:11:21.560 Like, I'm maybe going to have to learn some more stuff about you.

00:11:25.600 He's going to have, like, five minutes to let people know who he is.

00:11:30.640 Michael Ignatieff had more time than that.

00:11:32.780 And that guy plowed into the side of a mountain before exploding.

00:11:36.440 And now we're going to run Mark Carney, a central banker, at a time where the Canadian general public is the most skeptical to institutional liberals.

00:11:47.180 We're going to run the king of the institutional liberals.

00:11:53.300 Again, I'm a conservative.

00:11:55.500 I don't like Justin Trudeau.

00:11:57.240 But Justin Trudeau is interesting compared to these people.

00:12:01.160 The most interesting thing about Chrystia Freeland is the weird way she talks and twitches around at press conferences. 0.99

00:12:09.480 The Mr. Speaker type voice line is the main thing I think of whenever I think of Chrystia Freeland.

00:12:16.860 I do not believe people who pretend that they are excited by these candidates.

00:12:22.780 And whenever you find people online who are, like, pretending to be excited by Chrystia Freeland or Mark Carney or Christy Clark, they're, like, consultants.

00:12:33.280 They're all people who are usually paid for their opinions.

00:12:37.020 They work on the campaigns.

00:12:38.420 They are liberal staffers.

00:12:40.340 They don't have opinions worth listening to.

00:12:42.640 There's no random middle-class woman or man living in Manitoba or British Columbia or out in Sudbury who's going to vote in this thing.

00:12:52.760 That's why the liberals have to resist having a point system for their leadership.

00:12:57.380 The conservatives have a point system, which means that the maximum amount of points you can get from each riding is 100,

00:13:03.860 and then that 100 points gets split based on how many votes there are in that riding for each candidate.

00:13:08.740 That's actually a smart system.

00:13:09.940 It's kind of like an electoral college for the leadership.

00:13:12.860 This liberal party leadership is going to be decided by probably a lot of ethnic voting communities where people can kind of wrangle people to sign up and vote,

00:13:21.660 or it's going to be chosen by people who live in, like, downtown Montreal, downtown Vancouver, and downtown Toronto.

00:13:28.840 That's pretty much it.

00:13:30.020 Maybe some other people from Quebec City might throw in some votes for whoever is the most French-coded candidate,

00:13:35.800 but also that's another problem.

00:13:37.540 That's why I also say, maybe you run Frank Bayless.

00:13:40.780 I don't know.

00:13:42.140 Like, again, I don't want the liberals to win the next election.

00:13:45.480 But my motive for actually kind of caring who the liberal leader is,

00:13:49.200 is that it would be good for the liberals to have less crazy leaders.

00:13:53.660 I think that I'd like the NDP to move more conservative.

00:13:57.140 I'd like the liberals to move more conservatives.

00:13:59.340 I would like the conservatives to move more conservative.

00:14:02.540 I think conservatism is good, and so if the left becomes less left, that's good for Canada overall,

00:14:09.220 because the risk of having one of those parties become the government again is significantly reduced.

00:14:15.340 And I think Frank Bayless at least is kind of like that.

00:14:19.120 I'm not sure if he's exactly fully against getting rid of the carbon tax, but, like, he's a business owner.

00:14:24.400 You know, he seems to not actually set his hair on fire whenever Trump says something.

00:14:28.180 That sounds like a good starting place for the liberals on choosing a leader who's at least somewhat like Jean Chrétien.

00:14:35.080 It was Jean Chrétien's birthday yesterday, and it seemed like no liberals really took to heart the Chrétien legacy when they were, like, celebrating him.

00:14:44.160 The man cut more of the government spending than Ralph Klein did in Alberta.

00:14:49.360 I think Ralph Klein cut, like, 26%.

00:14:51.280 I think Chrétien cut, like, 30%.

00:14:53.940 Guys, consider doing that.

00:14:56.480 He was on to something.

00:14:57.660 Yes, he was only doing it because of the debt crisis, but he was on to something in realizing that some spending can be gotten rid of,

00:15:04.840 and the world's not going to fall apart.

00:15:07.180 Anyways, let's move on to the next rating here.

00:15:10.960 This is the perception of being similar or different to Justin Trudeau.

00:15:16.300 The funny thing here is that actually Chrétien has a higher similarity rating.

00:15:20.000 It's probably just because she worked next to Trudeau for so long, but she was the one willing to slam Trudeau.

00:15:24.700 Mark Carney has actually been secretly influencing liberal policy for the last few years here, and he actually has a lower similarity rating when he probably is the Trojan horse of just getting Trudeau's people back into the PMO.

00:15:38.360 But we have Freeland, who has a 57% of a similar rating.

00:15:42.960 Mark Carney has a 52, and Christy Clark, rightfully, because she was, like, the former BC Liberal Premier, doesn't have as much to do with the federal Liberals.

00:15:51.580 She only has a 45% rating.

00:15:53.980 If anything, out of those top three contenders, Clark might be the smartest person to run.

00:15:58.960 I'm not sure if she speaks French, but honestly, who cares? 1.00

00:16:03.780 Like, Christy Freeland, 57% similar rating.

00:16:06.740 With these ratings being so high in terms of similarity, do you really think any of these people are going to shake up the polling?

00:16:16.080 The Abacus data poll has the Liberals at 20%.

00:16:20.120 With people perceiving these individuals as very similar to Trudeau, only 36% of people see, like, Freeland is different.

00:16:29.160 Only 41% of people see Mark Carney is different, which is not too bad.

00:16:33.400 But that means that the majority of people already have their minds made up on what you're going to be like. 0.97

00:16:39.800 So you're working with half of people, or a little, like, less than half of people, who consider you even different, that's not even good, but slightly different, and that you're going to have to win, like, 50%, 60% of those remaining people to even be in the game again at all, and you're still probably going to get your butt kicked by Apaliev, rightfully so. 0.99

00:17:01.500 So here is the preference for leader index, and this really shows the absolute skull-crushing apathy that Canadians have for these individuals.

00:17:12.640 Preference for next leader, 47% leading the pack with a decisive 47% over, yeah, sorry, I mean, don't know, has a 47% rating right now.

00:17:23.900 That is a 30% lead over Christia Freeland, who is only preferred at 17%, Mark Carney, 13%, Christy Clark, 6%, Jolie, 6%, Francois-Philippe Champagne, 3%, apparently he was supposed to run, I guess he's not running, Dominic LeBlanc, also not running, Anita Anand, also not running, Stephen Gilbeau, also not running.

00:17:44.800 I'd love for Stephen Gilbeau to run as the proud socialist, that would have been funny.

00:17:48.640 I had somebody yesterday talk about, oh, too bad Anita Anand isn't running anymore, because, you know, she was probably the best of the bunch, she was very, you know, professional, or very competent, or whatever, like, no, she's not.

00:18:01.720 I don't like this idea where people pretend that all these politicians are, like, big figures and big forces in politics.

00:18:10.440 Anita Anand is a weakling, that's why she's not running, she's weak compared to Freeland and Carney, which says something. 0.97

00:18:17.120 Oh, well, actually, Wyatt, she helped order 88 new F-35 jets.

00:18:22.520 Okay, it's late.

00:18:24.240 This is a very late buy that the Liberals made when she was the defense minister, like, a year ago, a couple years ago.

00:18:31.160 Okay, I don't care.

00:18:32.560 And it was also over budget anyways.

00:18:34.460 That's considered, like, decisive leadership inside the Liberal Party.

00:18:38.160 Asking Justin Trudeau's permission to do the thing you should have done, like, a decade ago,

00:18:42.400 and then getting, like, props because, like, while they did it, she wanted to spend more on the military. 1.00

00:18:49.700 Every minister wants to spend more in their area, idiot. 0.98

00:18:52.780 But Trudeau just threw in Bill Blair because he's not going to, like, complain about the fact that his budget's being starved to death 0.99

00:18:59.680 because Bill Blair truly has nothing to offer anyone other than his loyalty.

00:19:05.580 But Anita Anand is not a figure.

00:19:07.840 Nobody cares about her.

00:19:08.960 There's this kind of trend from Zoomers on social media. 0.99

00:19:13.500 You guys probably don't, like, do this, which is good.

00:19:16.580 My audience is actually usually, on average, above the age of 35, which makes sense. 1.00

00:19:21.500 You people actually care about the news more than people in, like, their 20s.

00:19:26.400 But there are these sort of Zoomer politico people who, like, like to simp for really boring politicians

00:19:33.580 because they think that the obscurity of the politicians that they support really shows that they have deep political knowledge

00:19:39.500 and they care about policy.

00:19:40.800 If you think Anita Anand is a good leadership or prime ministerial candidate, like, I don't know what to say to you.

00:19:49.220 Please get a different hobby because you are not equipped to be digesting political information safely.

00:19:55.560 Kamala Harris is a better leader than Anita Anand is, a better leadership prospect than Anita Anand. 0.90

00:20:04.560 And I don't think, for the record, that Kamala Harris is good at all.

00:20:08.720 But that's just my way of basically saying Anita Anand is even worse.

00:20:12.940 Melanie Jolie is not a leader.

00:20:14.100 By the way, everyone always criticizes, like, Western Canadian conservatives for not having good, you know, French accents when they speak French.

00:20:23.620 Melanie Jolie has an awful English accent. 0.92

00:20:26.340 She's like Maxime Bernier in having that very Quebeca way of talking about Canadian politics.

00:20:32.500 It's bad.

00:20:33.340 It doesn't work on a leadership stage.

00:20:34.980 And by the way, yeah, it's nice to have a leadership candidate who speaks French or maybe from Quebec if you're a liberal.

00:20:41.640 But that's why Frank Bayles is good.

00:20:43.160 He has a good French, English-speaking accent.

00:20:46.560 He has a little bit of a Quebecer touch.

00:20:49.160 Jean Chrétien has a thicker accent, but it was kind of his own voice.

00:20:52.140 But he could actually speak well.

00:20:54.120 Melanie Jolie cannot.

00:20:55.760 Anita Anand is boring. 1.00

00:20:57.500 Dominic LeBlanc is a non-figure.

00:20:59.920 I don't care that you've looked through their records and they technically did something okay in office.

00:21:05.980 That's not what being the prime minister of a country is about,

00:21:09.000 is having this bureaucratic record where at one point the ball rolled down the right hole.

00:21:13.640 No, that was a very decisive decision they made.

00:21:17.160 Okay, well, if she was an actual decisive figure, she'd be running right now, wouldn't she?

00:21:20.860 But I need to break down this chart a little bit more.

00:21:24.580 So what we have here is among, this is the 2021 liberal supporters and current liberal supporters we should look at.

00:21:32.060 And so right now we see that, like, obviously this is all Canadians.

00:21:37.840 That's why so few people know who the leader should be.

00:21:40.860 But let's go down to 2021 liberal supporters.

00:21:43.820 So Chrystia Freeland's ratings only rise to 23%.

00:21:46.740 Mark Carney jumps from 13% to 21%.

00:21:49.420 And that is probably just because of the institutional pushing of Mark Carney to potentially be coordinated.

00:21:54.880 Chrystia Clark, weirdly enough, only jumps to 7%.

00:21:58.640 And these are 2021 liberal supporters.

00:22:00.500 She's only at 5%, even lower than the Canadian general public with current liberal supporters.

00:22:06.420 Carney's only at 20% with current liberal supporters.

00:22:09.080 And Freeland's a little higher.

00:22:10.940 I think people see her as the avatar of the non-Trudeau liberal to support,

00:22:16.120 even though she was, like, his partner in crime for years and only sideswiped him at the very end when she resigned out of pure pettiness.

00:22:23.180 Like, I would criticize Trudeau.

00:22:25.780 But she has no real, you know, leg to stand on to criticize him.

00:22:30.180 That's where I didn't care.

00:22:31.420 Like, even some conservatives tried to do this whole, oh, it's another woman that Trudeau's throwing under the bus. 1.00

00:22:37.900 No.

00:22:39.100 Freeland is just another person he is throwing under the bus.

00:22:42.600 Frankly, somebody nobody should feel bad for.

00:22:45.120 Since Chrystia Freeland helped feed the body of Bill Morneau under the bus to then take his job. 0.53

00:22:50.760 By the way, the liberals should be on the phone right now begging Bill Morneau to run for the liberal leadership.

00:22:58.200 Because guess what?

00:22:58.940 People don't hate that guy.

00:23:00.520 Not a good finance minister.

00:23:02.300 Not a good liberal member of parliament.

00:23:04.460 Overall, was involved in liberal corruption.

00:23:07.900 Yes.

00:23:08.660 Granted, I'm still a conservative.

00:23:10.500 I'm never voting liberal.

00:23:11.580 I am a very orthodox conservative.

00:23:14.720 I ran for a conservative nomination.

00:23:16.480 Got kicked out because they didn't want me to win.

00:23:18.440 Certain people didn't want me to win.

00:23:19.900 I'm friendly with 99% of the conservative party still.

00:23:22.840 But Bill Morneau at least probably would have good feelings towards him in both, like, Quebec and in the sort of Toronto area that they need to gird up.

00:23:33.760 Bit of a smarter choice.

00:23:34.820 He's kind of like the more accessible Frank Bayless.

00:23:37.160 I would go for it.

00:23:37.940 He has a history of criticizing Trudeau years ago, calling out where he's doing things wrong.

00:23:42.720 So he has a credible way of coming into the leadership and actually being seen as a change agent.

00:23:48.600 So if you're like Katie Telford, maybe got on the phone with Bill Morneau.

00:23:53.220 If he ran, legitimately, I think he would take the error of the room.

00:23:56.800 Jody Wilson-Raybould could probably run for it and win.

00:24:00.300 She should consider it, even though she's actually probably further left than Justin Trudeau is.

00:24:04.760 She gets a lot of weirdly positive goodwill because of the SNC thing, which was good.

00:24:10.140 It was basic anti-corruption stance she took.

00:24:12.920 She was actually a bad justice minister, by the way. 1.00

00:24:16.160 Helped ruin jury selections through policy changes that made it so that you cannot basically have your lawyer say that,

00:24:22.820 I don't want that person to be on the jury, they won't even look my client in the eye, or they're obviously openly hostile.

00:24:28.200 She removed that because there's too much bias in jury selection. 0.95

00:24:31.980 But anyways, let's keep going down this trail for a second.

00:24:36.640 Preference for next leader broken down into the regions.

00:24:39.540 Obviously, Freeland doesn't do so well in Quebec.

00:24:42.400 Mark Carney does even worse in Quebec.

00:24:43.940 Right now, I think the big thing is that Quebecers don't actually have a candidate.

00:24:48.640 That's where Frank Bayless actually probably has quite a bit of power right now.

00:24:52.080 And then that's where Chandra Aria, as much as people want to make fun of him because he has a really heavy Indian accent,

00:24:58.300 doesn't speak English even that well, and doesn't speak any French, that guy can throw weight around.

00:25:03.500 He's also a Hindu Canadian, which is sort of a demographic of Canadians who don't usually get involved in politics,

00:25:09.560 and don't usually have an avatar, I guarantee he is going to sign up a prestigious amount of Hindus around the country.

00:25:15.740 And the good thing about that is they're kind of shotgunned everywhere.

00:25:18.240 That guy is not going to win.

00:25:19.980 But that guy is going to be able to sell his support to one of the other candidates

00:25:23.040 to probably get some sort of big job before the whole government collapses.

00:25:27.340 And that's kind of all they really want.

00:25:29.860 And here is the poll that really shows where Canadians are at.

00:25:34.280 42% of Canadians want a snap election as soon as the leader is chosen for the Liberals.

00:25:40.040 Only 32% want to wait until October.

00:25:42.620 That is probably Liberals and NDPers who know how broke their party is.

00:25:46.960 And only 18% say it doesn't matter to me.

00:25:49.440 I have heard people portray this poll showing, well, you know, a majority of Canadians,

00:25:53.020 when you add these two options together, the 32 and 18, are a majority.

00:25:57.640 42% wanting a snap election as soon as possible is crazy.

00:26:01.300 Because Canadians usually don't want an earlier election, even when Trudeau, before Trudeau was out in, like, January here.

00:26:11.400 Even in December, if you polled Canadians, do you want an election right now?

00:26:15.280 You'd probably only get 20% saying, yeah, election right now, maybe 25%.

00:26:19.080 Because it's just kind of one of those, like, conventional things where you always say,

00:26:24.460 oh, I don't want to have to go into another election.

00:26:26.100 People find elections annoying and stressful and whatnot.

00:26:29.320 But when you can get 42% of people to say yes, and it's the plurality of people's options,

00:26:34.720 that's pretty telling.

00:26:36.920 That is very telling.

00:26:38.020 And again, there's another 8% of people who don't know who probably might side with the election-having crowd right there.

00:26:45.260 But yeah, it's bad for the Liberals.

00:26:47.680 There is nobody who has any amount of actual traction among the Canadian population.

00:26:52.760 In fact, the Liberals might do worse than with a Carney or a Freeland than they do with Trudeau.

00:26:58.240 Because know what Trudeau has that Mark Carney and Christopher Ellen don't have?

00:27:02.000 Name recognition.

00:27:02.820 Well, yes, if you poll Liberals, 100% of them know who Mark Carney is.

00:27:07.920 That was another result that David Coletto released on Twitter.

00:27:11.580 100% of Liberals can identify Freeland and can identify Mark Carney.

00:27:15.880 A little bit less on Christy Clark.

00:27:17.940 But yeah, that's nice.

00:27:19.540 But you have to get one of people who are not partisans who answer polls on the phone or online.

00:27:24.620 You need people who are watching hockey on television,

00:27:28.880 don't really like the idea of having to line up to vote.

00:27:32.060 And you want that guy to feel like, but dang it, I'll do it for him.

00:27:36.720 And as bad as, as much as people hate Trudeau's guts,

00:27:40.280 he's at least the avatar for like certain progressive Canadians to say,

00:27:44.880 I vote Trudeau because I'm not one of those far-right conservatives.

00:27:48.160 There's at least some turnout potential with that kind of like arrogant self-regard

00:27:54.960 that Trudeau can generate in certain progressive urbanites.

00:27:58.240 But when you come to like Freeland and Carney, who's even going to get out?

00:28:03.060 Who's even going to walk into the voting station if they're walking by the polling station like right there?

00:28:07.960 You're going to have to have like the guy from like Argyle Lodge mailing in ballots for people,

00:28:13.420 for the BC NDP mailing them all and for everyone around Canada to get the turnout

00:28:17.580 from Mark Carney and Chrystia Freeland, BC election irregularities joke there.

00:28:22.340 I'm going to be covering the BC thing even more.

00:28:25.240 That story's crazy.

00:28:26.260 Now BC elections and the guy who is like probably fraudulently mailing in ballots

00:28:30.920 are having a fight of who dropped off the bulk ballot mail-ins

00:28:34.180 because it's obviously like wrong what's happened.

00:28:37.360 And people in the Lodge are saying basically I was pressured to vote for the BC NDP

00:28:41.380 or they were going to kick me out.

00:28:42.980 But anyways, that's another story.

00:28:44.260 We'll talk about that later.

00:28:45.140 But yeah, liberals are dying.

00:28:47.320 Liberals have no reason to exist right now.

00:28:49.560 And their leadership candidates are proving that the party is completely hollow

00:28:53.600 without that big personality of a leader.

00:28:56.740 And when you make every single one of your MPs and of your party supporters

00:29:01.380 be subservient to the leader, everyone gets their personality whitewashed.

00:29:05.320 There's not a single real personality inside the Liberal Party.

00:29:09.240 If pure Polyev somehow drops out as the leader like tomorrow, 0.95

00:29:14.360 there's going to be a competitive leadership race.

00:29:16.700 And not because nobody has a decisive edge and it's a bit of a mosh, 1.00

00:29:20.280 but it would be like a brawl of people with big personalities,

00:29:24.500 with big like ideological differences between each other.

00:29:28.100 You would have like, I don't know who to run into conservative leadership.

00:29:31.240 Maybe Leslie Lewis again.

00:29:32.700 Maybe you'd have a Michael Cooper.

00:29:33.980 Maybe you'd have a Michael Chong run.

00:29:36.100 You have people who are more like socially liberal,

00:29:39.320 more socially conservative running.

00:29:40.840 People who are more hawkish on defense.

00:29:42.820 People who have a more populist style.

00:29:44.820 People who want cuts in government.

00:29:46.420 People thinking that we can grow.

00:29:47.920 We should just grow our way out of debt.

00:29:49.920 You'd have so many policy positions.

00:29:52.200 There isn't going to be a single policy difference between Freeland and Carney.

00:29:55.620 It's going to be an embarrassing fight between the two.

00:29:58.440 Because nobody cares.

00:30:00.140 Anyways, so that's it.

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The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - January 12, 2025

Liberals have NO good option to replace Trudeau - Freeland vs Carney is embarassing

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