The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - November 14, 2024


Liberals in Full Denial Mode on their failed immigration agenda


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In this episode of the podcast, I talk about the federal government's immigration policies and why they need to go back to what they were doing before. I also talk about why we should be worried about temporary foreign workers replacing permanent Canadian workers.

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00:00:00.000 I feel like you guys won't be too shocked to hear that the federal liberals have entered full denial mode as their immigration agenda falls apart.
00:00:10.460 They've actually been doing some good stuff recently. It's not part of their agenda. It's how they're backpedaling out of it.
00:00:16.660 We were bringing in close to 500,000 new permanent residents per year, plus temporary foreign workers, plus students, which was reaching levels of like 1.3 million in the year 2023.
00:00:28.840 And now we've reduced permanent residents by 100,000. Temporary foreign workers are going down. Student visas are going down. That's all good. 1.00
00:00:36.960 But what would be really good is if the liberals could even acknowledge that their previous approach to immigration, i.e. just jacking the GDP up to pretend like their economy doesn't suck, even though it was still sucking, but it's sucking on a per capita level now, too.
00:00:52.640 That was also bad. But here's our current immigration minister. Then I want to get over to Chrystia Freeland, our deputy prime minister and finance minister somehow, on their excuses for what they did previously and why what they're doing now is not really a pivot.
00:01:10.840 Before I get into that, I do want to encourage you guys, if you don't currently subscribe to the channel, please hit that subscribe button, hit the like button if you're watching, and of course, leave a comment if you want. It helps channel growth and whatnot.
00:01:22.040 Anyways, here is Mark Miller on the CBC trying to justify himself. Ironically enough, he's getting interviewed by that guy who had that horrible interview with John Rustad, and he's not nearly as hard on Mark Miller here,
00:01:34.040 even though Mark Miller is in a far worse position than John Rustad since Mark Miller is a liar and John Rustad wasn't.
00:01:41.040 This change and admission by the federal government that what's been going on over the past few years hasn't worked, that we've been oversubscribed essentially.
00:01:51.040 Well, I think it is worth examining what has worked and what hasn't worked. We do have our share of responsibility federally. Immigration is a shared jurisdiction. 0.81
00:02:00.040 Suddenly, immigration is now a shared jurisdiction when they've messed up horribly. Immigration is like 90% a federal jurisdiction.
00:02:09.040 And I will criticize provincial premiers like Danielle Smith, who asked for a quarter million, and then the Liberals gave them a quarter million new people.
00:02:17.040 Yes, I don't like that. But still, it's still all pretty much up to the federal government. You know, they control our borders. Would they attack a province?
00:02:27.040 They probably would if they started trying to block people from coming over the border because that's not your jurisdiction.
00:02:33.040 And we own a lot of the increase that I think was important to prevent the economy from going into the recession and the growth that we've had, which is almost entirely been due to immigration.
00:02:45.040 It's come with what the Bank of Canada has said is a conundrum, what economists have said is a conundrum on services, on the ability of provinces to adapt.
00:02:53.040 That's what we call in the trade an admission. We were doing this to pump the GDP.
00:03:00.040 So some people say, well, Justin Trudeau is trying to get new voters. He's not trying to get new voters, guys.
00:03:05.040 Check out the B.C. provincial election. In fact, minority voters who are mainly who people are who are coming in through immigration.
00:03:13.040 They're socially conservative voters and often fiscally conservative voters.
00:03:17.040 That was like the bulk of the B.C. conservatives electoral base was South Asian and East Asian voters in many ridings.
00:03:24.040 And so this, though, he is saying what the liberals actual agenda was. Pump the GDP, pretend the economy is doing well.
00:03:31.040 And then he's saying, well, we had a conundrum. Well, we started hurting our service spending because we didn't have enough service spending for all these people.
00:03:38.040 Because there's a difference between service spending in like a mostly middle class type city where most people don't really need to access too many government services.
00:03:48.040 When you bring in people on student visas, on temporary foreign worker visas, and people are being brought in as permanent residents and they don't have a lot of money, they are far more likely to actually access service spending.
00:04:00.040 80% of permanent residents and temporary foreign workers in Canada use food banks, and that's not healthy.
00:04:07.040 And so it is a collective effort by the federal government, by provinces, in this case B.C., and by municipalities to adapt to larger numbers.
00:04:16.040 And so that listening exercise over the last year has been significant.
00:04:21.040 And I think it was clear to me that it was important to reduce not only temporary residents, international students like we've been doing in the last year, but also on the permanent levels to make them more manageable. 0.52
00:04:31.040 And I think that, yes, is absolutely our responsibility as a federal government.
00:04:35.040 This has led to Conservative leader Pierre Polyev accusing the Prime Minister and your party of flip-flopping here, making a last-minute policy reversal to, I suppose, bring policy more in line with what the Conservatives have proposed.
00:04:50.040 Can I just say, I hate this lead up to a question.
00:04:54.040 The thing with Mark Miller also, notice there how now immigration is a shared jurisdiction, but then he throws it at provincial governments and municipal governments that they're the ones who have to figure out how to deal with the influx of people when it comes to service spending.
00:05:07.040 But this guy right here, he should just say, so you guys have flip-flopped.
00:05:12.040 This is objectively a flip-flop.
00:05:14.040 But no, he's framing it from a more passive position of, you know, well, Pierre Polyev says that this is a flip-flop.
00:05:21.040 Your opposition is saying it's a flip-flop.
00:05:25.040 Why would you phrase it this way?
00:05:27.040 It's stupid.
00:05:28.040 It's what we would call in the trade letting them off the hook.
00:05:32.040 Now letting Mark Miller, you know, rephrase his answer in the context of opposing Pierre Polyev.
00:05:39.040 He doesn't have to justify why he wanted mass immigration now, why he wants less of it now.
00:05:45.040 The Liberals would reduce immigration more, but that would require them being more honest about how abjectly of a failure the current system was.
00:05:56.040 Anyways, here we go.
00:05:58.040 How much influence did the reaction of opposition parties have on this new policy?
00:06:03.040 Well, I listen, frankly, to all Canadians.
00:06:06.040 That includes criticism that I receive, whether it's from the NDP, the Bloc, or the Conservatives.
00:06:10.040 Pierre Polyev has been singularly irresponsible in his approach to immigration, saying that there's been this uncontroversial approach to immigration, consensus to immigration over the last 150 years.
00:06:24.040 We know that that's not entirely true, whether it's the Chinese head tax, whether it's racial policies that went up to the 60s.
00:06:30.040 Look, what a jerk. What a jerk.
00:06:34.040 In response, we don't even need to watch him anymore.
00:06:36.040 In response to this dweeb's terrible question of, well, what did your opposition push you on this one?
00:06:42.040 He gets to say, no, they didn't. They've been irresponsible.
00:06:45.040 They say there used to be a consensus over immigration policy.
00:06:48.040 Yeah, there still isn't a consensus.
00:06:51.040 I'll show you guys later just how many people want immigration lowered more and how many people have currently approved of the lowering so far.
00:06:58.040 And then he tries to go over to the Chinese head tax and other, like, obviously racist policies.
00:07:05.040 Yes, that's what Polyev meant when he said we used to have a consensus on immigration in Canada.
00:07:11.040 He meant the Chinese head tax and exclusion acts.
00:07:14.040 My goodness. OK, well, guys, I'm not sure if this is better, but we're going to watch Christian Freeland respond to the same questions also in a CBC interview.
00:07:25.040 This actually it's a little edited. This is not me editing it.
00:07:29.040 It's not a conservative activist editing it.
00:07:31.040 This is the CBC's edit, and I can assure you the CBC is never going to try and make Christian Freeland look bad.
00:07:36.040 What is your message to people who might consider?
00:07:38.040 Christia Freeland's job to make herself constantly look bad. 0.99
00:07:41.040 That are fleeing to Canada.
00:07:42.040 My message is that Canada controls our borders.
00:07:47.040 That every Canadian has the absolute right to expect that our country chooses who comes here and who doesn't. 1.00
00:08:00.040 That fundamental control is the underpinning of Canada being the country who we are, which is at our core a country that has grown thanks to immigrants and immigration.
00:08:13.040 But you can only do that if Canadians know that we control our borders.
00:08:19.040 We brought back ISIS fighters into Canada.
00:08:22.040 We have terrorists coming over the border.
00:08:25.040 We, for some reason, approve Calistani extremists to enter the country and swing swords around on the street and agitate against Hindu temples. 1.00
00:08:33.040 We have a lot of crazy people in this country.
00:08:36.040 We control things.
00:08:38.040 Is that how we were, we were picking and choosing really carefully in the 1.3 million people who were brought into the country?
00:08:45.040 In fact, a lot of people who are part of criminal organizations in Canada get in on student visas and then just don't go to school.
00:08:52.040 And then they just go around and like rob people and sell drugs and whatnot.
00:08:56.040 It's nuts.
00:08:57.040 And to pretend that we've been responsible is irresponsible.
00:09:01.040 We control who comes here.
00:09:02.040 And crucially, we control who doesn't.
00:09:05.040 My question is your message to the outside world, because last time Donald Trump instituted a dramatic policy, 2017, the prime minister tweeted to those fleeing persecution, terror and war.
00:09:14.040 Canada welcomes you.
00:09:15.040 What is your message to people who would try to get into Canada now?
00:09:17.040 My message today is Canada has an excellent immigration system.
00:09:22.040 We are a country that welcomes new Canadians because we know the value they bring, but we welcome them in an organized, systematic way.
00:09:30.040 This is the same government that had rocks and road that just let people walk over the border and then claim asylum that they obviously didn't need.
00:09:41.040 This is ridiculous.
00:09:42.040 And the idea that we this is the this is the huffy.
00:09:45.040 Oh, my goodness, out of breath type coverage we need because Donald Trump is the US president again and people might need to flee over the border.
00:09:52.040 And Freeland, because of mass immigration, does not want to say don't come here.
00:09:58.040 And she doesn't want to say that, no, you can't just run over the border.
00:10:02.040 So she said, you have a great you have a great immigration system and we choose people and we're open.
00:10:07.040 And I can't contradict my boss saying that we are fully open to all asylum seekers.
00:10:12.040 So I'm just going to say this. It's pathetic.
00:10:15.040 Their immigration agenda has fully failed.
00:10:18.040 It has been abysmal how bad this whole thing has been.
00:10:21.040 And the worst part of it all is they can't admit it.
00:10:24.040 If they admitted it, they would actually be doing better in the polls right now.
00:10:28.040 I want to show you just how popular popular their last.
00:10:33.040 The last cut they just made was to the immigration rates.
00:10:37.040 This was posted by Riley Donovan here.
00:10:40.040 This is just polling people on what they thought of the hundred thousand reduction to permanent residence, reducing student visas and reducing temporary foreign worker visas.
00:10:53.040 Riley Donovan here says for weeks, the immigration lobby has railed against Canada's immigration cuts.
00:10:58.040 And he actually is like he's 100% right about that.
00:11:02.040 There are organizations like the Century Foundation or Century Initiative who are fully on board with just raising immigration rates as much as humanly possible to make Canada like a country of 100 million people by like 2050 or something like that.
00:11:15.040 It's nuts. Anyways, and so he said going on, he says business interests condemned it.
00:11:20.040 The Century Initiative raged against it.
00:11:22.040 143 civil societies and charities signed an open letter to reverse it.
00:11:27.040 78% of Canadians support the cuts.
00:11:29.040 And it's not just somewhat supportive.
00:11:31.040 Only 25% of people somewhat support.
00:11:34.040 53%, a majority fully support it.
00:11:38.040 This is what every political party in Canada needs to be doing.
00:11:42.040 So I actually partially congratulate the Liberals for finally cutting immigration.
00:11:47.040 Technically, they're the first the first party in Canada to do it in the like the last 20 years.
00:11:52.040 It's only been raises since then.
00:11:54.040 Still way.
00:11:55.040 It's still not enough by far.
00:11:57.040 Not enough.
00:11:58.040 But other parties and pure poly of need to get this. 1.00
00:12:01.040 So we're going to say that your target number is only 70,000 new permanent residents a year less than 100,000 temporary foreign workers slash it to a quarter of the number that we had before students slash it to a quarter.
00:12:14.040 It doesn't all but the universities rely on foreign student tuitions in order to operate then raise domestic tuitions.
00:12:22.040 I'm saying this is somebody who might take another degree in my life.
00:12:25.040 I'm fine paying more so that houses are affordable.
00:12:28.040 It's so short sighted.
00:12:29.040 Well, the universities, they can't ask for some time.
00:12:32.040 Sometimes the provincial governments don't give them more taxpayer money.
00:12:35.040 And so they need to get higher tuition rates from foreign students because domestic student prices are capped.
00:12:40.040 Okay, we'll figure it out.
00:12:42.040 We'll just raise domestic student tuitions and we'll stop subsidizing students.
00:12:47.040 And again, I just stopped being a student.
00:12:49.040 Students don't pay that much.
00:12:50.040 Students have been paying record lows in terms of their tuition adjusted for inflation compared to the last 40 years.
00:12:57.040 Anyways, so PolyEF needs to come out and say 70,000 a year, 100,000 a year, max new permanent residents.
00:13:04.040 Plus, you have to have skills that Canada needs.
00:13:07.040 Plus, you have to have a values test and a means test.
00:13:10.040 You can't just show up sight unseen, no money in your pocket, living off food banks, using social security benefits or social welfare benefits.
00:13:18.040 You don't get to show up to Canada when you can't afford to.
00:13:21.040 It doesn't help somebody to take them from the third world to the first world.
00:13:25.040 And they do not have the ability to actually get their feet up under them.
00:13:29.040 Okay, then, yeah, temporary foreign workers, students also need to be slashed.
00:13:33.040 You will benefit. Canadians will like that.
00:13:37.040 Being, oh, and I can already see some people in the Conservative Party, strategists and advisors who've been there for way too long, well before Pierre Polyev, who still have this nervous red Tory energy in them.
00:13:49.040 They're saying, that's controversial and the media might attack us over it.
00:13:52.040 Good.
00:13:53.040 Good.
00:13:54.040 I hope they attack you over wanting to reduce immigration because it raises awareness of the fact that you want to reduce immigration.
00:14:00.040 And if you want to reduce it, Canadians will support you and vote for you because most people, even if they don't vocalize it strongly, want immigration reduced. 0.90
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