The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - December 08, 2025


Liberals in Trouble! Carney trapped himself as CPC puts forward pipeline motion!


Episode Stats

Length

21 minutes

Words per Minute

185.74118

Word Count

3,914

Sentence Count

198

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

1


Summary

Wyatt Claypool talks about the MOU between PM Mark Carney and Alberta Premier Danielle Smith, and what it means for the future of the oil pipeline between Alberta and the West Coast of Canada. Also, a new motion being put forward by the Tories to force a vote on whether or not to support the deal.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here.
00:00:02.880 Since they took office, Prime Minister Mark Carney's liberal government has been great at talking tough and making big promises.
00:00:11.480 But when it comes to actual follow-through, so far they have been objectively terrible.
00:00:17.640 And I don't think there is anything different with this memorandum of understanding between Carney and Alberta Premier Danielle Smith.
00:00:25.360 Now, Smith obviously wants a pipeline built. Well before she was Premier, when she was a radio show host, she was consistently wanting more pipelines built, whether it was to the West Coast or the East Coast.
00:00:39.520 But Carney and many of his liberal MPs have been obviously anti-pipeline this entire time.
00:00:45.780 They have openly said no to more pipeline development in Canada. Carney was on the record in a committee meeting with Pierre Polyev, then just an MP and not the leader, asking him why he's in favor of pipeline development in other countries, but not Canada.
00:01:02.340 And Carney had this ridiculous rambling answer about why Canada shouldn't be building pipelines, but they should be building pipelines in Saudi Arabia and Qatar and elsewhere.
00:01:12.520 Now, Carney is trying to cast himself as Mr. Pipeline, but he may have actually entrapped himself.
00:01:21.580 The man has played himself because he has perfectly fed into the Conservatives' hands, and now they will be putting forward a motion vote to ask all the liberal MPs,
00:01:32.600 will you vote on the record, yay or nay, for a pipeline going from Alberta to the West Coast with a suspension of the tanker ban so tankers can actually move the oil and gas products to Asia to be sold?
00:01:47.220 Because so many liberal MPs, when Carney was signing to the MOU, basically were signaling in the media,
00:01:54.740 yes, we have signed an MOU with Alberta, but don't worry, David Eby in British Columbia and all the First Nations can still block it.
00:02:02.340 They would say it in a more diplomatic way, like, oh, of course, we'll still need their sign-off, and we still have to do consultations, and we'll want to work with the B.C. government.
00:02:10.200 They're effectively trying to basically assure their green liberal base that no worries, we have found ways to make sure this thing will never happen.
00:02:20.440 Carney will say yes, but the First Nations will say no, or Carney will say yes, but don't worry, David Eby will say no,
00:02:27.760 and from what has been tweeted by some of David Eby's own MLAs in the last 24 hours, they are still on the side of no.
00:02:35.540 But I want to break this down a little bit more in just a second here, with the motion being put forward by the Conservatives.
00:02:42.140 But before I do that, I just actually want to plug a little interview I did with Kat Kanda on her YouTube channel.
00:02:49.080 I will be linking in the description below that video, as well as pinning it in the top of the comments.
00:02:54.540 And then I also want to pin the documentary that the party I work for put out recently.
00:02:59.420 It's the One B.C. Party Caucus, put out the Making a Killing documentary about the Kamloops grave hoax,
00:03:06.100 as well as the reconciliation industry takeover of British Columbia.
00:03:10.840 That will also be linked below the Kat Kanda interview.
00:03:14.320 I encourage you guys to watch both of them.
00:03:16.280 They're fantastic.
00:03:17.920 And then also, like, share, subscribe, all that usual stuff.
00:03:21.360 Sorry I'm holding up the video.
00:03:22.700 I also want to address this, because I know I'm going to get comments about it.
00:03:25.140 But this is the clock that shows how many subscribers I have.
00:03:29.480 But for some reason, oh, okay, well, I got that to come back.
00:03:32.720 But for some reason, it's not displaying this number correctly.
00:03:35.220 I assume when it gets to the next number, it will reset itself, and it won't look kind of so janky.
00:03:40.000 But I know if I don't say that, people are going to want me to address it.
00:03:43.280 It's like how I got a call on my phone yesterday, and people are hearing the buzzing of my phone,
00:03:48.500 and people start asking me who was calling me.
00:03:51.020 That was my friend Justin, and now you know.
00:03:53.000 Well, anyways, but here is from Rob Shaw from Czech News in British Columbia.
00:03:59.380 He says,
00:03:59.980 Mark Carney's government may be in an uncomfortable position next week after the Conservative Party announced
00:04:06.680 they will be tabling a motion to support an oil pipeline from Alberta to deep water port on BC's coast,
00:04:13.920 language from MOU, putting Liberal Party BC MPs in potential spot of voting against the government's own MOU.
00:04:21.120 And that's probably what's going to happen, because we've basically heard from MPs like Tlaib Noor-Muhammad
00:04:28.100 and Jonathan Wilkinson that, don't worry, I'm kind of restating what I've already said,
00:04:33.340 but don't worry, guys, it's never going to happen,
00:04:35.940 because Carney has put a veto in for everybody and their cat into this MOU.
00:04:41.040 Now, I know there are some Albertans who have been criticizing Danielle Smith.
00:04:45.340 Why would she ever sign this MOU?
00:04:47.140 She knows that Carney's untrustworthy.
00:04:49.520 She kind of has to play the role of being naive in the situation,
00:04:53.260 because if she says, well, this is not worth the paper, it's written on, it's the Liberals,
00:04:57.980 of course they're just going to lie, blah, blah, blah.
00:05:00.420 The thing is, the media and the Liberals will say, see, that's why there's no pipeline.
00:05:04.020 She doesn't believe in it enough.
00:05:05.760 She doesn't believe in Tinkerbell, so Tinkerbell died.
00:05:08.180 Right, so Daniel Smith is having to be deliberately naive in this whole situation,
00:05:12.740 but again, it's actually been a way of entrapping Carney,
00:05:16.980 because Carney is making it seem like the pipeline is very real,
00:05:20.580 but now the Conservatives can put them on the spot and ask, well, how real is it?
00:05:24.840 Let's have your own MPs say they fully endorse this plan, and they hope it actually gets done.
00:05:31.560 And so the Conservatives are very giddy about this thing being put forward.
00:05:36.240 I liked this post by Katie Merrifield, who is the communications director for Peter Paliyev's office,
00:05:43.360 and she said, see you next Tuesday, Tlaib, being Tlaib Noor-Muhammad, have a great weekend,
00:05:49.480 because he was really getting into it with her this last week, attacking her over some stupid, nonsensical points,
00:05:57.020 and now he gets to be the one in an uncomfortable position, having to argue in favor or against a new pipeline.
00:06:04.760 And so here is Peter Paliyev showing what the opposition motion is going to be.
00:06:12.880 He says, we need a pipeline to the Pacific.
00:06:15.540 On Tuesday, the House of Commons will vote on a Conservative motion for a new oil pipeline to the Pacific coast,
00:06:21.680 overriding the tanker ban to ship bitumen to Asia.
00:06:25.060 Bring home jobs.
00:06:25.820 And this is what the opposition motion will read.
00:06:29.940 Opposition motion A, take note of the Memorandum of Understanding between Canada and Alberta of November 27, 2025,
00:06:37.980 and B, supports the construction of one or more pipelines,
00:06:42.300 enabling the export of at least 1 million barrels a day of low-emission Alberta bitumen
00:06:47.380 from a strategic deep-water port on the British Columbia coast to reach Asian markets,
00:06:52.940 including through an appropriate adjustment to the oil tanker memorandum act,
00:06:57.760 while respecting the duty to consult Indigenous people.
00:07:00.960 I honestly wouldn't have even included the last part of duty to consult,
00:07:04.580 because it's kind of a misnomer that you're consulting Indigenous people.
00:07:08.120 You're consulting left-wing controlled ban councils.
00:07:11.120 Many of the people on Indigenous ban councils or First Nations ban councils
00:07:15.800 are left-wing activists, like Grand Chief Stuart Phillip.
00:07:21.020 You can consult, but at least they shouldn't be given a veto.
00:07:23.780 So I understand why the Conservatives said consult, but not, you know, let them have a veto in all this.
00:07:29.500 They shouldn't have a veto. It's ridiculous.
00:07:31.720 It's not even like some people say,
00:07:33.320 why are 5% of the population in British Columbia able to control the entire province?
00:07:38.100 And they're talking about First Nations.
00:07:39.140 It's not even 5%.
00:07:40.720 It's like 0.0001%,
00:07:43.700 because the vast majority of First Nations people are perfectly fine with resource development.
00:07:48.420 It's the activists who end up having high positions in their government
00:07:51.700 who are incentivized to say no,
00:07:54.180 because again, they're left-wing, greenie activists.
00:07:57.820 But in response to what Pierre Polly have said here,
00:08:01.120 and I think it's very much kind of indicating why the Liberals are going to be uncomfortable,
00:08:06.120 Interim NDP leader Don Davey says,
00:08:10.400 Liberals are violating a 50-year oil tanker ban,
00:08:14.360 one they long defended and just enshrined in law to satisfy Conservatives for a bitumen pipeline.
00:08:21.140 It's clear only the NDP will protect the BC coast,
00:08:24.740 defend Indigenous rights, and address the climate crisis.
00:08:27.560 And this is why the Liberals are in a really tough spot,
00:08:31.520 because they have trained a large portion of their base to hate pipelines
00:08:36.400 and to think that basically the climate crisis makes any fossil fuel development pipeline
00:08:41.140 or exportation of oil and gas is not just bad, it's evil.
00:08:45.620 And so the NDP may end up eating the Liberals' lunch on this one,
00:08:50.900 because even if the Liberals vote in favor of it,
00:08:53.400 which will make them look better in front of what I'll call their blue Liberal base
00:08:58.320 or their business Liberal base,
00:09:00.380 they'll end up looking bad to their orange Liberals
00:09:02.920 that they just took on board in this last election.
00:09:05.300 Because remember, in a normal federal election,
00:09:08.400 the NDP usually get like 15% to 20% of the vote, maybe 14% to 20%.
00:09:12.820 This last election, they only got 6.6%.
00:09:15.440 So most of their vote either stayed home or went to the Liberals.
00:09:20.160 So the NDP have a very good path here to winning back a bunch of their support
00:09:25.140 by showing that the Liberals are not left-wing enough.
00:09:28.160 And they're already taking it from their left flank
00:09:30.860 because they ended up losing Elizabeth May
00:09:33.620 as she is mad about the MOU being signed
00:09:36.540 and saying that she will never vote for anything else the Liberals do now.
00:09:39.520 So let's just take a look at this CTV News question period clip
00:09:43.740 where now Elizabeth May, the Green Party leader
00:09:46.880 and only Green MP, saying she regrets voting for the budget
00:09:50.640 and she will never vote with them again.
00:09:52.580 Clued then, kind of jumping off that point
00:09:54.840 and bridging where we started,
00:09:56.520 which is the fact that you cast that very integral vote
00:10:00.680 to support the budget and keep the government in power.
00:10:02.780 You said never say never.
00:10:04.560 Does that mean that you have not ruled out supporting them
00:10:07.960 on other matters of confidence?
00:10:09.480 Or will you take a hard line on this?
00:10:11.820 We're going to have to change.
00:10:12.980 They have to change their policies.
00:10:14.640 Right now, we've got a Prime Minister
00:10:16.160 who got to office largely with progressive voters thinking,
00:10:20.820 this is a...
00:10:21.720 I have so many members of the Green Party email
00:10:24.320 and say we're ending our Green Party membership long enough
00:10:27.280 to vote for Mark Carney in the Liberal leadership
00:10:29.740 because he's a climate guy.
00:10:31.280 A lot of people believe that this was a Prime Minister
00:10:35.360 who would act on climate.
00:10:37.420 So I may have voted for the budget because I thought he would.
00:10:40.440 A lot of Canadians voted Liberal because they thought he would.
00:10:44.880 So there's disillusioned voters out there, a lot of them.
00:10:48.160 There's disillusioned Liberal MPs who are wondering
00:10:51.540 whether Will Graves, the MP for Victoria,
00:10:54.040 who said he's very worried about lifting the tanker ban,
00:10:57.400 and Patrick Wyler, West Vancouver Sunshine Coast,
00:11:00.380 and Anthony Lorska-Smith.
00:11:02.080 People saying this is not what we expected,
00:11:05.160 and not to misquote Patrick Wyler,
00:11:06.980 but he said, look, somebody's...
00:11:09.260 The Prime Minister's going to have to explain
00:11:11.220 the flip-flop on the subsidies to enhance oil recovery.
00:11:15.620 It's not just me who's wondering,
00:11:17.840 how did this happen that a Prime Minister
00:11:20.140 we thought was going to stand for certain things
00:11:23.340 is standing for other things?
00:11:25.620 And for viewers, I'm not taking away from the fact
00:11:27.820 we're dealing with Trump, we're dealing with national unity.
00:11:30.600 I can cut it off there because now it's just
00:11:31.980 random trying to show that,
00:11:35.280 no, I'm not against everything Liberals are doing.
00:11:36.940 It's just random pablum now.
00:11:38.660 But this is very funny
00:11:40.540 because the Liberals are not pro-oil pipeline
00:11:43.440 enough to hold on to those business Liberals,
00:11:45.720 those blue Liberals,
00:11:46.620 who actually swing between the Conservatives
00:11:48.460 and the Liberals depending on the election.
00:11:50.340 But they're now no longer progressive enough
00:11:52.400 for the progressive voters that they've taken on board,
00:11:54.620 and they're taking it from their left flank
00:11:56.720 by both Elizabeth May at the Greens
00:11:58.800 as well as Don Davies at the NDP.
00:12:01.540 And no doubt you will see a lot of the NDP leadership candidates
00:12:05.100 running on the idea that they're going to oppose
00:12:07.700 the Liberals tooth and nail from this point
00:12:09.540 because they've become too conservative
00:12:11.280 because they've signed this MOU.
00:12:13.480 That's effectively what Stephen Gilbeau said
00:12:15.480 when he ended up resigning from the Liberals' cabinet.
00:12:17.800 He's probably going to resign from office fully later.
00:12:20.200 He's a Liberal MP,
00:12:21.080 but very much a Green Liberal
00:12:22.920 saying that this was a bridge too far
00:12:24.980 and I can't support this anymore
00:12:26.320 so that's why I'm leaving Cabinet.
00:12:28.360 Again, a lot of these Liberal MPs,
00:12:31.160 it would probably be rational for them
00:12:32.580 to all vote in favor of the motion.
00:12:34.840 But some of them are in ridings
00:12:36.800 that I would say are irrational
00:12:38.320 when it comes to pipelines
00:12:39.520 or at the very least their base in the pipeline,
00:12:42.460 in the ridings says they're anti-pipeline.
00:12:44.620 So even though the majority of voters in that riding
00:12:46.820 would like them to be pro-pipeline,
00:12:48.920 the thing is a lot of those pro-pipeline voters
00:12:51.200 are just going to vote conservative anyways
00:12:53.000 because they're the more pure pro-pipeline party anyways.
00:12:55.980 And again, the Liberals aren't really pro-pipeline.
00:12:58.060 They'll say they want to get it done,
00:12:59.860 but then again,
00:13:00.420 they'll just bake in a bunch of vetoes
00:13:01.900 to a bunch of people
00:13:02.680 that don't actually matter
00:13:04.240 in order to make sure the pipeline never happens.
00:13:06.920 I want to get to this other post right here
00:13:09.520 where we have Thomas Mulcair
00:13:12.040 trying to kind of like,
00:13:13.820 I guess, poo-poo the idea of this vote
00:13:16.180 saying, oh, the conservatives are just having fun.
00:13:17.980 No, I actually sometimes agree with Thomas Mulcair
00:13:21.820 despite being a former NDP leader.
00:13:23.440 I think he's a fairly shrewd political commentator
00:13:27.220 since leaving politics.
00:13:28.860 But on this, the conservatives are not having fun.
00:13:30.880 They're in fact making the Liberals
00:13:32.580 put their money where their mouth is.
00:13:34.180 And thank you for Mark Nixon
00:13:35.420 for clipping this and putting on X.
00:13:38.040 All right, let's talk about Green Party leader,
00:13:40.220 Elizabeth May on CDB's question period
00:13:42.600 saying she regrets supporting the budget
00:13:45.500 and that the Liberals cannot count
00:13:47.900 on her vote going forward.
00:13:49.340 What do you make of her comments?
00:13:51.960 Well, she's trying to put a whole heck
00:13:54.260 of a lot of green toothpaste back into the tube
00:13:56.880 because she came out
00:13:58.760 as soon as the budget was tabled.
00:14:01.340 She kept using the word absolutely.
00:14:03.720 I will absolutely never vote for this budget.
00:14:06.000 I will absolutely never vote for this budget.
00:14:07.880 And then she voted for the budget.
00:14:10.420 And so nobody could understand that.
00:14:11.860 She was heavily criticized by people
00:14:14.020 in environmental groups for having done that.
00:14:16.060 Now she's got a lengthy explanation
00:14:17.860 that in her negotiation,
00:14:19.280 she had obtained something about
00:14:21.100 whether or not you could use tax credits
00:14:23.360 for oil recovery and stuff like that.
00:14:25.400 It sounds very complicated.
00:14:27.000 There was one very easy win for Elizabeth May in there.
00:14:29.580 There was a 2 billion tree planting program.
00:14:33.260 Great way to sequester carbon, by the way.
00:14:35.820 Please have a bunch of trees.
00:14:37.660 And the Liberal Party of Mark Carney
00:14:41.040 decided to get rid of that program
00:14:42.640 for reasons that are still inexplicable.
00:14:45.040 And she had an easy win on the table.
00:14:46.860 All she had to do was ask for something concrete
00:14:48.520 that people could understand.
00:14:49.780 And then she could say,
00:14:50.640 I'm going to vote for the budget.
00:14:52.120 This actually might not be the clip I was looking for,
00:14:54.140 but I think you guys,
00:14:55.180 I think that one's still at least pertinent
00:14:56.700 because of just how bad Elizabeth May is now looking,
00:14:59.140 having to walk everything back.
00:15:00.960 Which one am I trying to find?
00:15:03.160 Is this it?
00:15:03.860 I think I found the right one.
00:15:05.020 This is always the annoying thing
00:15:06.420 when you've got to find the right clip
00:15:07.760 and you line them up wrong.
00:15:09.000 But that one was still at least interesting to listen to.
00:15:11.680 E-leader, Tom, welcome.
00:15:13.880 Good to be with you, Renee.
00:15:15.100 Let's start with this pipeline vote
00:15:17.060 that Polyev is planning to force in the House this week.
00:15:20.280 Your thoughts.
00:15:21.140 What's the strategy here?
00:15:22.800 And what are you expecting the outcome to be?
00:15:25.880 Well, I have trouble suppressing a smile
00:15:27.640 for having spent so many years in opposition.
00:15:29.900 I recognize a really good play
00:15:31.940 by an opposition party when I see one.
00:15:33.740 And this is more fun than anything else
00:15:35.980 because it doesn't actually produce any results.
00:15:38.320 It's a take note debate.
00:15:39.800 And basically people are asked to vote
00:15:41.820 whether they recognize and accept the agreement,
00:15:44.680 the memorandum of understanding
00:15:45.940 between the feds and Alberta.
00:15:48.360 Now, here's the fun part for Polyev.
00:15:50.900 He is very much aware, as is everyone,
00:15:53.260 that there are members of Carney's caucus
00:15:54.840 who are very uneasy with that deal.
00:15:57.400 But since they don't get to express themselves publicly,
00:15:59.720 anything that's been talked about in caucus stays in caucus.
00:16:03.300 So none of that bubbles out
00:16:04.620 unless you get a resignation,
00:16:05.580 as in the case of Stephen Gibbo.
00:16:07.680 So lo and behold,
00:16:09.000 the Conservatives have used a very old trick.
00:16:11.220 They're using an opposition day motion
00:16:12.740 to bring it forward and say,
00:16:14.000 look, we want to give you the chance
00:16:15.880 to vote on this memorandum of understanding.
00:16:18.000 And they've done something even trickier.
00:16:20.460 They've fooled around with the wording.
00:16:22.580 There is a substantive difference
00:16:24.100 between the wording of the memorandum of understanding
00:16:26.240 and the motion.
00:16:27.340 And it has to do with whether or not
00:16:28.600 you would have to have an amendment
00:16:31.060 to the tanker ban on the north coast of British Columbia.
00:16:35.720 So Polyev is really having far too much fun.
00:16:38.660 I think that the thing is,
00:16:40.320 I would disagree with Tom Mulcair.
00:16:41.680 This is not fun.
00:16:42.600 I think there actually is concrete things
00:16:44.180 coming out of this.
00:16:45.260 Because again, I think Canadians do need to see
00:16:48.080 where the Liberals actually stand.
00:16:49.460 Are they just fooling around?
00:16:50.840 Because I would say Carney is the one having fun
00:16:52.660 with his pretend support for pipelines.
00:16:55.140 And now Polyev is making him actually put his money
00:16:58.240 where his mouth is.
00:16:59.300 It's not just political theatrics.
00:17:01.260 The whole point is that they are cutting through
00:17:03.160 the propaganda of the Liberals
00:17:05.000 and seeing where a bunch of these Liberal MPs
00:17:07.140 actually stand on their own deal.
00:17:08.800 And it is very smart for them
00:17:10.280 to go even further than what the MOU said.
00:17:12.800 Because the MOU never actually said anything
00:17:14.220 about a tanker ban, like lifting it.
00:17:17.460 It just kind of basically muddles through the idea
00:17:20.080 that we should export.
00:17:21.520 It doesn't actually say it's going to functionally
00:17:24.340 get rid of the tanker ban
00:17:25.540 in order so that the pipeline is functional.
00:17:27.660 It just kind of basically vaguely says
00:17:30.480 a pipeline should be built
00:17:31.580 and we should, in theory, export.
00:17:34.000 And so by making that language very clear,
00:17:36.640 Polyev's Conservatives are forcing these Liberal MPs
00:17:40.300 who just want to, at the most,
00:17:42.980 they'll say, yo, I'm vaguely in favor
00:17:44.740 of the idea that we should ship more oil.
00:17:47.080 But now they actually have to say yes
00:17:49.020 to a very specific plan
00:17:51.000 that is obviously implied by the MOU,
00:17:53.900 which is building to the West Coast,
00:17:55.540 getting rid of the tanker ban, and exporting.
00:17:57.760 They never thought that they were going to have to be this clear
00:17:59.840 because they do not want the environmental groups
00:18:02.400 that they usually rely on for support
00:18:04.340 picketing outside of their offices
00:18:06.180 and saying that there are conservative sellouts
00:18:08.060 and all this stuff.
00:18:09.160 So again, Carney has effectively played himself
00:18:12.260 in all this, wanting to talk tough,
00:18:14.860 and now Polyev can force him to actually
00:18:17.860 at least rhetorically deliver
00:18:19.860 by being specific in what he wants to do.
00:18:23.460 Anyways, that should be it.
00:18:25.380 Oh, actually, no, that's not it for today.
00:18:27.020 Actually, I just want to bring up one more thing here.
00:18:29.420 And that is we have Ravi Parmar
00:18:32.780 from the BC NDP reacting to this headline from the CBC.
00:18:38.080 We'll just talk about the headline first.
00:18:39.460 He is the Minister of Forestry
00:18:40.980 in the BC NDP government.
00:18:43.280 And the CBC headline says,
00:18:46.140 E.B. Warren's proposed pipeline project
00:18:48.300 could become an energy vampire.
00:18:51.340 And now, as you can see,
00:18:52.880 on the day I'm filming this, December 7th,
00:18:55.400 three hours ago, Ravi Parmar says,
00:18:58.520 the Premier sums it up perfectly.
00:19:00.620 An idea, and that's all it is so far,
00:19:03.120 that was developed without First Nations input,
00:19:05.280 without BC input,
00:19:06.300 and one that threatens our economy.
00:19:08.500 It's an energy vampire,
00:19:09.760 and we cannot let it interrupt our progress.
00:19:12.240 So, yes, the NDP government in British Columbia
00:19:15.700 is saying no.
00:19:16.780 You don't really come back
00:19:17.760 from calling the pipeline an energy vampire
00:19:19.900 and say, oh, yeah, sure,
00:19:21.540 we can let the energy vampire be built.
00:19:24.360 The BC NDP government has already said no.
00:19:26.880 The Grand Chief of the First Nations,
00:19:29.380 like, it's kind of like an amalgamation
00:19:32.520 of all the First Nations band councils,
00:19:34.120 but the guy who is the Grand Chief of all of them,
00:19:36.740 Stuart Phillip,
00:19:37.620 has already said no as well.
00:19:39.660 So this thing is not happening,
00:19:41.400 and now the Conservatives are also forcing them,
00:19:43.420 the Liberals on a federal level,
00:19:45.020 to vote on the idea that we can consult,
00:19:47.800 but at the end of the day,
00:19:48.920 we have to build.
00:19:50.500 Build it, suspend the tanker band,
00:19:53.320 consult, but at the end of the day,
00:19:55.000 we're not giving vetoes to anybody,
00:19:56.800 because the federal Liberal government
00:19:58.580 is the only one,
00:19:59.980 the only entity,
00:20:01.220 that actually has to say yes in all of this.
00:20:04.540 Anyways, but we will definitely be back
00:20:07.000 on Tuesday or Wednesday, the next day,
00:20:09.280 to talk about how this ends up going with the vote,
00:20:12.700 because you are going to see a lot of nervous Liberals
00:20:14.960 either finding reasons to, like, you know,
00:20:17.440 really bad reasons that they can still vote in favor of it,
00:20:20.140 but not violating their environmental, like, principles,
00:20:23.740 or abstaining, or the Liberals just finding a way
00:20:26.480 of not voting for it entirely.
00:20:28.120 I wonder if they're all just going to walk out on the vote
00:20:30.220 saying the vote's a trick,
00:20:31.700 so we're not going to put up with it.
00:20:33.720 But anyways, with that all being said,
00:20:36.400 thank you guys for watching.
00:20:37.700 Go check out the interview I did with Cat Canada
00:20:39.940 and the Making a Killing documentary,
00:20:42.380 both linked in the description below
00:20:44.220 and pinned at the top of the comments.
00:20:46.540 And, you know, with all that being said,
00:20:48.880 very clunky outros here, guys.
00:20:50.600 I'm very sorry that all this is so clunky.
00:20:53.060 I'll get better.
00:20:53.680 I've only been back in the studio for, like, two days here,
00:20:57.800 and everything feels alien again.
00:20:59.860 But, again, with all that being said,
00:21:01.960 thank you guys for watching,
00:21:02.960 and I'll see you all next time.