The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - May 23, 2025


Liberals LOSE riding after Judicial Recount! - Bluefinland is real!

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After a recount, Conservative candidate Jonathan Rau has won the riding of Terra Nova, the Peninsulas, Newfoundland and Labrador, flipping it from the Liberals to the Tories. This is a big day for the Tories, and it's a day to celebrate.

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here. We have some very good breaking news today for the Conservative Party of Canada, and that is after a judicial recount, the riding of Terra Nova, the Peninsulas, has flipped from the Liberal Party to the Conservative Party.
00:00:16.700 On election night, the Liberals had won it by 12 votes, and now after the recount, the Conservative, Jonathan Rau, has won it by 12 votes. So we just had the results color change, but the actual margin did not change.
00:00:32.340 This has actually been a very good day for recounts for the Conservatives, or basically non-Liberals. In Nunavut, the riding ended up being held by the NDP after a recount.
00:00:43.460 They actually had hundreds of votes to count, and the NDP was only leading by like 40 votes, and after the recount, they were leading by like 41 votes.
00:00:51.520 So that one is going to stay in the hands of the NDP. Now, I don't like the NDP, but I'd rather they have it and create chaos in Parliament than the Liberals have it and be closer to a majority.
00:01:02.200 And then the Conservative candidate who ended up winning the riding of Windsor-Tecumseh-Lakeshore ended up holding on to that riding after the recount by four votes.
00:01:14.260 Windsor-Tecumseh-Lakeshore, originally on election night, the Conservative had won it by like 250 votes, which in federal politics is not a very big margin at all, but it is certainly bigger than four.
00:01:26.800 But that demonstrates if you show up and you vote, sometimes good things happen.
00:01:33.080 Because let me be very clear, let's go back to Terranova, the Peninsulas, that was not supposed to be a winnable riding for the Conservatives.
00:01:41.360 Windsor-Tecumseh-Lakeshore, not supposed to be a winnable riding.
00:01:44.240 In fact, guys, this has resulted in one of the things I wanted on election night to happen, and it looked like it hadn't happened because of the Liberals getting Terranova on election night.
00:01:56.640 But we now have Bluefinland.
00:01:59.460 Bluefinland is now a thing.
00:02:01.760 Yes, the Liberals did win ridings on Newfoundland around St. John's, but it's St. John's, it's a bigger city with hipsters in it or whatever, and I guess they all vote Liberal.
00:02:13.380 And then Labrador is more Quebecois, so it ended up voting Liberal, whatever.
00:02:17.340 But the main part of the island in Newfoundland is the territory I now dub Bluefinland because it is all blue.
00:02:25.300 That demonstrates the power of connecting with voters on issues they care about.
00:02:30.880 The Conservative Party did an excellent job in Newfoundland because they promised to bring back the seal hunt, which is absolutely required if you want to maintain large fishing stocks.
00:02:41.880 And they were going to wipe out the stupid fishing quotas that the Liberals have been implementing that makes what is already a part-time seasonal business in Newfoundland almost impossible to sustain because what you're allowed to catch is so low,
00:02:56.320 you may as well just move to a different province and enroll yourself in another industry. 0.99
00:03:00.880 It was ridiculous. Conservatives did a great job with those people. 0.96
00:03:04.160 They also did a very good job on crime and drugs, which especially appeals to specific communities like Chinese-Canadian communities in both the Richmonds in Ontario and B.C.
00:03:15.220 in Markham and I think another place is Danforth, not Danforth, somewhere else, but there's another heavy Chinese-Canadian populated rioting or city in Canada, Vaughan, there we go. 0.98
00:03:29.500 The thing is when the Conservatives were actually messaging on those things that mattered to people there, they won.
00:03:34.700 But in so many places, I found like they lacked vision and they didn't really, you know, connect with people who were anxious about Trump and America.
00:03:44.380 It's not because those were unwinnable voters because they had like their minds wiped by the mainstream media and they were just anxiety voters about Trump.
00:03:52.860 It's just because there was no other Conservative message to win them. 0.88
00:03:55.580 The Conservatives basically just messaged those people with like a generic change message, which I thought was very foolish.
00:04:02.340 You need something more than just change when people are scared.
00:04:05.840 You have to say, OK, you're scared about the Trump tariffs, but guess who's weakened our economy so much that we're basically here for the taking?
00:04:13.700 That was Trudeau and the Liberals, as well as Mark Carney acting as the economic advisor for five years.
00:04:21.720 But, you know what, let's not go too deep into that today because it is a day for celebration.
00:04:27.320 I think I had some other tabs here I wanted to pull up for you guys to go over some of the fun stuff that's been happening.
00:04:32.880 But I actually do want to get to what was actually kind of weird in the Windsor-Tecumseh-Lakeshore recount.
00:04:38.900 And this isn't like saying, oh, my goodness, the election's rigged.
00:04:42.100 If anything, this should be evidence to you. It's not rigged.
00:04:44.780 The recounts went in the direction that Conservatives wanted.
00:04:47.360 Even Terrebonne right now, the Liberals won that by one vote.
00:04:51.300 But now there's all these elections, Canada issues coming out where they were sending people the wrong returning addresses for their mail-in ballots.
00:04:58.140 And most a lot of those people who want to return a mail-in ballot and did and then had the letter bounce back because it wasn't the right address were Bloc Québécois voters.
00:05:05.740 So that might actually end up going to a by-election as that case is being basically adjudicated in front of the court.
00:05:13.320 So all this has actually been going pretty well for the Conservatives.
00:05:16.320 But at the same time, people should look into how the liberal swings in these recounts have been so large.
00:05:23.840 It's not because something's going on, or at least what's going on is massive incompetence.
00:05:29.620 I want all of the votes counted on Election Day, whereas it seems like poll boxes or whatever are not being counted from these very liberal sections of the riding.
00:05:39.400 Or maybe it's that liberals are more likely to return mail-in ballots in most cases.
00:05:44.260 And so what we're having held back is a bunch of mail-in ballots that are taking weeks to be able to find and then count,
00:05:49.700 which opens up people to a lot of understandable suspicion that it looks like, hmm, the liberals see that this riding is within 180 votes.
00:05:58.480 How can we find enough liberal votes to win?
00:06:01.440 Now, I don't think that's what's going on.
00:06:03.520 But when the processes are this incompetent, goodness, people are going to start concluding that.
00:06:08.780 And it's really not their fault for concluding it.
00:06:10.880 Elections Canada and, by extension, Elections BC, Elections Alberta, Elections Saskatchewan, 0.96
00:06:15.860 and all the elections organizations, they suck at this.
00:06:20.240 But Kirk Lubimov here makes a good point.
00:06:23.440 He says, conservatives hold on to a four-vote win after a judicial recount in Windsor-Tecumseh-Lakeshore riding.
00:06:30.580 From the preliminary recount, liberals added 418 new votes and conservatives added 189 new votes,
00:06:38.040 while 119 new votes found and hundreds rejected.
00:06:41.920 So 119 votes was like the discrepancy in results.
00:06:46.220 So 119 votes were now found.
00:06:48.620 They weren't even part of the original count.
00:06:50.660 And that's not like rejected ballots that are now being counted because, oh, actually,
00:06:54.700 the person did mark conservative and the person, you know, two votes stuck together and they didn't count it.
00:06:59.540 No, this is like, this is not like rejected votes now being counted.
00:07:03.020 These are like votes they never counted because they usually will show you how many votes were rejected on the tallies.
00:07:08.900 These are just 119 from somewhere.
00:07:11.040 And Elections Canada should answer on where this stuff is coming from because it's ridiculous that we're having to, like,
00:07:17.900 just take their word for it that nobody threw in an extra vote at the very end, hoping you would tip the balance.
00:07:24.020 But whatever.
00:07:25.340 And look at this.
00:07:26.460 The Green Party lost 331 votes after the recount.
00:07:31.340 Now, that's a little insane because so up here is the results on election night after presumably or at the time we presumed all the votes were counted.
00:07:42.940 There were 70,000 votes, 70,019 votes, and then it bumped up to 70,138 after the recount.
00:07:50.500 But think about that.
00:07:52.280 The Green Party had 799 votes.
00:07:55.820 And after the recount, they have 468 votes.
00:07:59.960 Now, again, what the heck is going on down there?
00:08:03.720 That seems almost like someone was deliberately doing something.
00:08:07.020 Again, I'm not saying the election's rigged or something like that.
00:08:09.640 But at the very least, there probably is some sort of bad actor. 0.81
00:08:12.680 Maybe it's even a Green Party person who's ended up counting the votes and they're just counting things as Green Party because, you know, screw you, I like the Green Party.
00:08:20.920 And if that's going on, that person should be fired and we should be getting to the bottom of this. 0.94
00:08:24.560 We keep having these stupid anomalies where, yeah, it really wouldn't tip the balance in most ridings. 0.86
00:08:30.460 But at the same time, we should have every single vote counted accurately. 0.98
00:08:34.540 It's like the B.C. election.
00:08:36.220 Now we have still all of these disputes going on because you have these lodges sending in mail-in ballots for people who were, frankly, mentally incapable of voting or people who didn't have access to their own IDs.
00:08:49.620 And somehow a vote which requires access to your ID is being sent in on their behalf or a ballot box of, like, 1,200 or 800 votes is going missing in the B.C. election.
00:08:59.880 And then that happened again in the Elections Canada, like, organizing of this election where, like, a box of 822 special ballots went missing.
00:09:09.340 It's just incompetent.
00:09:11.400 And the funny thing is it's like the liberals want people to start saying the election's rigged so then they can run against the fact that their opponents are election deniers.
00:09:19.780 When most people are just mad at how poor quality the vote counting is, it's just there's constant slowdowns.
00:09:26.220 Polls are taking literally days to finally count, and you're, like, wondering, guys, we're just hand counting.
00:09:32.460 How can people not figure out how to do this?
00:09:35.300 And so, yeah, I think the liberals are almost incentivized not to fix the problems, not because they're going to win an election because of these problems next time.
00:09:43.420 More so they just like messaging against conservatives and be like, oh, they think we have election electoral issues.
00:09:49.340 Ergo, you're an election denier, and people should vote for us because the other guys are election deniers.
00:09:54.100 That's really the game they're playing here.
00:09:56.800 If I can slot something else in this video, so overall, it's very good.
00:10:00.700 NDP holds on to Nunavut, I don't know how to say it.
00:10:04.760 The conservatives hold on to the Windsor riding.
00:10:07.000 Really big game.
00:10:08.200 Demonstrates how well they did with working class voters, that they ended up winning both Windsor ridings, ridings that the conservatives hadn't won since the 30s or the 50s.
00:10:16.680 It's nuts.
00:10:17.400 And now we have the conservatives picking up Terranova and the Peninsulas, and we may have the Bloc Québécois be able to pick up Terrebonne after a judicial determination if there needs to be a by-election.
00:10:30.020 But one more thing I want to touch on is I loved that video from election night of Jamil Giovanni going after Doug Ford and the fake conservative PC party in Ontario. 0.99
00:10:42.520 The PC party in Ontario sucks. 0.95
00:10:45.160 I will, like, always encourage you guys, go and join. 0.98
00:10:48.980 Go sign up for the email list for the new blue party of Ontario.
00:10:52.300 It's not being, like, a purity party like the PPC is where they just get all they're doing is saying the conservatives are just not conservative enough.
00:11:01.100 The new blue party is basically saying, hey, that 2018 PC platform was actually pretty good.
00:11:06.660 Maybe we should actually implement it.
00:11:08.240 So they based a party around actually doing the things the PC party originally said they were going to do back in 2018 and completely dropped it because they've just determined they don't need conservative voters to actually win.
00:11:19.700 They'll just win by getting a bunch of crossover liberals to show up for them. 1.00
00:11:23.600 But Jamil Giovanni, a great new MP, he is fantastic.
00:11:27.840 He was technically already an MP from Durham, but that was, like, only a year of him being the MP for Durham.
00:11:34.020 And now he's, I think, like, Beaumont or something like that.
00:11:37.940 He's the MP for, but he did not get a shadow cabinet position.
00:11:42.360 And I do not know why.
00:11:43.980 I don't know who is advising here, Paulio, to not give Jamil Giovanni a cabinet position.
00:11:50.020 He's now pushing this great petition to end the current TFW structure, just eliminate the TFW program, maybe replace it with something reasonable where it only applies to high-skill temporary foreign workers and not low-skill workers who end up working at fast food restaurants.
00:12:05.840 He's a great advocate for real conservative positions.
00:12:09.800 So why isn't he in shadow cabinet? 0.99
00:12:11.660 And I see in shadow cabinet right now there's a bunch of people I just think are complete clowns. 0.82
00:12:16.820 Most of the people in the conservative party and the shadow cabinet are great. 0.90
00:12:20.380 There's really great people in the shadow cabinet.
00:12:22.560 But then you get people like, let's just say it, Jisraj Halan, who admitted to at one point not that long ago being a gangster, and then he also, I apparently heard, faked having an accounting degree.
00:12:36.200 So he's now our finance shadow critic, despite the fact that the man doesn't actually have any background in, like, accounting or finance or anything. 0.99
00:12:47.240 It's stupid. 0.96
00:12:48.320 But Jamil Giovanni doesn't get in, probably because they thought that was very bad that he criticized Doug Ford. 1.00
00:12:53.860 You should criticize Doug Ford. 0.99
00:12:55.800 He sucks. 1.00
00:12:56.700 He's just fat Trudeau. 1.00
00:12:58.540 So why? 0.97
00:12:59.260 Oh, but he could be an ally.
00:13:00.660 No, he can't.
00:13:01.380 We don't need him to win the election.
00:13:02.900 We got a higher percentage of the vote in Ontario than Doug Ford did.
00:13:07.680 So if you just push harder and you just focus on winning those people who were nervous anti-Trump voters, you can win.
00:13:14.620 And you don't have to go hardcore anti-Trump to win those voters.
00:13:17.760 You just have to talk about issues that end up actually stirring up the conversation.
00:13:23.540 Run against immigration.
00:13:24.820 Run against the temporary foreign worker program.
00:13:27.260 Do things, like, cut all tax brackets.
00:13:29.660 Do something that really makes you seem like the change candidate rather than just saying you're the change candidate.
00:13:35.320 Polioff's a very good leader.
00:13:37.020 At the same time, he needs people around him who will let him be the best version of himself because there are people around him like Jenny Byrne and other individuals who more so shadow Jenny Byrne who just always want to risk manage.
00:13:51.160 Just risk manage.
00:13:51.940 She's not a campaign manager. 1.00
00:13:53.500 She is a risk manager.
00:13:54.980 She's never won an actual tough election, at least to my knowledge.
00:14:00.180 She keeps constantly bringing up, oh, you know, I helped Doug Ford win in 2018.
00:14:04.420 I helped Polioff win the leadership in 22.
00:14:06.520 Oh, my goodness.
00:14:07.540 Get a real accomplishment, lady.
00:14:09.600 That's not real.
00:14:10.800 You lost in 2015 for Harper.
00:14:12.860 You lost for Polioff in 2025. 0.88
00:14:15.420 Is there another election there where you, like, pulled victory out when it wasn't expected?
00:14:20.160 No, she won easy races, and she's lost winnable races. 0.99
00:14:24.940 I think that's someone who shouldn't be within five miles of the Conservative Party HQ.
00:14:29.840 But that's just my opinion.
00:14:31.680 Anyways, also the rig nominations and whatnot, which I had firsthand experience with.
00:14:37.340 This is becoming a very rambly video.
00:14:39.360 See, you know, I cover the actual hot-button news topic, and then some of you stick around to hear me just kind of complain about stuff.
00:14:45.700 But that's what happens on the Wyatt Claypool show, or whatever this whole thing is called.
00:14:51.280 Anyway, so I'll see you guys later.
00:14:52.840 Make sure to subscribe to the channel, like this video, leave a comment, do all that stuff.
00:14:57.180 I'm going to be back in Victoria next week, so if you watch my Victoria story, do that, because it might get crazier.
00:15:04.860 I'll even link my Victoria story in the description below and in the comments if you haven't seen it yet.
00:15:10.480 It's fun.
00:15:11.160 It's like 40 minutes of me talking about MLAs in the BC Conservative Party, Conservative, attacking me, because they're woke. 0.99
00:15:19.080 By the way, most people in the BC Conservative Party, the MLAs, are good people, but they are being held hostage by the stupidity and spinelessness of John Rustad, 0.98
00:15:28.560 who lets basically the few woke MLAs completely run the caucus. 0.97
00:15:33.700 See, I keep going into new rants, but that's just, again, what happens here on the show.
00:15:38.640 But thank you, Bluefin Land.
00:15:41.160 Thank you for reducing the size of the liberal minority government.
00:15:45.420 I was about to say majority, minority government.
00:15:47.600 See you guys later.