00:00:00.000Ahoy, everyone. It's whiteboard time on the National Telegraph, where we go over some Canadian national polling numbers and explain how they are being affected by recent events in Canadian politics.
00:00:12.900Today on the show, we will be specifically discussing the new numbers out of abacus data that show the Mark Carney liberal lead heavily falling off right now in the aftermath of the recession,
00:00:24.340issues around trade talks, as well as the resurgency of the NDP in provinces like British
00:00:31.260Columbia and Ontario. So we're going to be starting off with the national numbers, how they've changed
00:00:36.600since the last Abacus data poll, and later on this video I might also just go into making fun of the
00:00:42.680new Nanos poll. I know everyone's saying, oh my goodness, pure Polyev has cooked, the conservatives
00:00:47.520can't win, and I'm going to explain why I don't trust that poll. I don't dislike everything that
00:00:54.540comes out of nanos, but when a polling firm puts something out that's ridiculous,
00:00:59.640you ignore it. That's not just saying ignore numbers you don't like. That is saying ignore
00:01:03.840numbers that don't make any sense, and I'm going to later explain why the nanosurvey makes no sense.
00:01:11.120But before I get into the abacus data numbers, I just want to remind you guys, if you like the
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00:01:41.540Without further ado, let's get into these numbers, and I'm just going to show you what the current numbers are, and then I'll show you what the change was since the last Abacus Data survey.
00:01:52.180So right now, we do have the Liberals in the lead, and that should not be surprising right now.
00:01:57.440Again, because of Mark Carney's fighting with Trump and the Americans, he kind of has this patriotic rally around the flag kind of effect going on for the Liberal Party.
00:02:06.820So the Liberals currently are at 44% in the new Abacus data poll. But you'll notice that's only about half a percent better than they actually did in the last federal election.
00:02:19.980So although everyone keeps saying that Mark Carney is wildly popular, they do need to sort of remember that he really hasn't budged in most polls since the last election.
00:02:32.560He's a little bit up, he's a little bit down, but he's usually been hovering around that 44-43% number.
00:02:39.460In the last Abacus poll, he was up at 47%, but that was a bit of a popularity spike.
00:02:45.160It was a bit of an outlier compared to what they've normally been putting him at.
00:02:49.180But then let's move on to Pierre Polyev's conservatives, who are currently sitting at 36%. Definitely not amazing. That is down from the previous election when they had about 41.5% of the vote, but also not that bad. It's not the giant fall off that people are saying is occurring and you have to get rid of Pierre Polyev and the conservatives can't win.
00:03:12.420it's basically a couple news cycles separate the liberals and the conservatives liberals have a
00:03:18.820couple bad news cycles it could be a tie ball game pretty quickly here and in fact the conservatives
00:03:24.500actually have a more efficient vote these days so each vote for the conservatives is worth more than
00:03:30.160a vote for the liberals it depends on where your vote allocation or what your vote allocation looks
00:03:35.400like liberals back in 2015 2019 2021 used to have more efficient voting than the conservatives
00:03:41.840and recently it has swapped then we have the NDP at not a great number but respectable considering
00:03:50.000what they were at last election they are at 11 percent of the vote that is partly probably
00:03:57.320because Avi Lewis has tacked out a position left wing enough from Mark Carney that he actually
00:04:03.620has the ability to differentiate himself more than Jagmeet Singh did with Justin Trudeau
00:04:08.580And also just because I think there's a couple of files that Mark Carney has rhetorically blundered on, giving room to the NDP to sort of cut into his support base.
00:06:04.160Do you think if you go knock on your neighbor's door after something happens on the news, they're going to be like, never voting for those guys again? It takes a while. If you surveyed probably 20 people you know about how their voting patterns change month to month, it's slow. Maybe one of them tends to flip-flop a little bit more in the news cycle matters. Most people stick to who they were voting for last time because it's who ideologically represents them or who represents them best, at least on the one or two issues they really care about.
00:06:32.660But now let's go over what the changes were since the last poll from Abacus.
00:06:39.120So the Liberals are actually down 3% since the last Abacus data poll.
00:06:46.600Conservatives haven't benefited that much, but they've still benefited.
00:09:12.120And it's because of the trade issues going on right now.
00:09:14.920I think this drop-off is mostly because of, one, the recession, and then, two, the fact that, effectively, because Mark Carney signed the MOU pipeline deal with Alberta, it has opened up the left flank for the NDP to chip away at because they're now the only environmental party based on the narrative that they can now spin.
00:09:36.460Even though Mark Carney was never going to build a pipeline, it still looks bad, though, for him to lose Jonathan Wilkinson and Nader Skine-Smith and Stephen Gilbeau, who are all big environmental hawks.
00:12:49.060Thank you for you being patient, even though it's paused and I delete race everything while it's paused, but thank you for, I don't even know what you did. I guess I ruined my point there. Anyways, I'm back to do the regional numbers here. So we have the three, I would say, are big swing provinces that at least matter to this video. Yes, Quebec is also a swing province. As you see, though, the Bloc Capicois really haven't moved. So the Quebec numbers really haven't moved. So we don't really need to look at them.
00:13:15.160So the ones that we're going to look at today, though, are Atlanta, Canada, Ontario, and British Columbia.
00:13:22.460Atlanta, Canada, I find it kind of odd how much this province is moving right now.
00:13:28.120Now, it's basically a two-party region.
00:13:31.300Yes, the NDP can kind of pull fine in Atlanta, Canada, but based on the fact that there's no other parties really present splitting any vote, the NDP have no chance of winning a seat.
00:13:42.060So I'm just going to write down the percentage form what we are currently seeing from these regions. Right now in Atlanta, Canada, the Liberals are at 50% of the vote, but the Conservatives are still at 41% here.
00:13:59.240So, yes, the Liberals are leading by nine points, but based on the different environments in the various maritime provinces, the Conservatives are kind of neck and neck with the Liberals in that region, simply because, yes, the Liberals do well generally in the Maritimes, but they do well in Halifax and Charlottetown and St. John's, and they'll do very, very well there.
00:14:22.200But in the more suburban rural areas of the Maritimes, the Conservatives do very well as well.
00:14:27.620So they would actually be picking up seats in a future election in Atlanta, Canada.
00:14:31.860And then we just have the NDP at 8%, basically irrelevant.
00:14:37.880But this is how much things have changed in this region since the last Abacus data poll.
00:14:42.420Now, the margin of error when you get down to a regional level is higher, but this still demonstrates a momentum shift.
00:14:48.460Even, let's say, in reality, the amount of the fall of the Liberals in this area isn't as bad as what we see in this particular poll.
00:14:58.600So the Liberals in Atlantic Canada have fallen by six points, and the Conservatives are up by 7%, a very big change since the last poll that Abacus Data did.
00:15:13.320And then we have Ontario, where the Liberals aren't currently at 46%. We have the Conservatives at 37%. And the NDP are now at 12% of the vote. The Greens are also at 3%, PPC too, but I don't think that really matters to us here.
00:15:34.720And then in British Columbia, this is the smallest lead the Liberals currently have in the swing provinces. They are at 43%, a little below their national average. Conservatives are at 36%. And the NDP is at their highest area.
00:15:53.720Actually, they're doing best in Manitoba, but that's a little bit of a misnomer because they always combine the numbers of Saskatchewan.
00:15:59.940But they are currently at 15% in British Columbia.
00:16:05.720But let's go over the changes because the changes are telling about the momentum currently in the country or the problems that Carney is facing.
00:16:12.880We have the Liberal Party going down five points in Ontario, Conservatives up just one point, but the NDP up four points, this being mostly an NDP gain to the Liberals' loss.
00:16:29.120We then have, in British Columbia, the Liberals suffering their deepest fall of 8%, the Conservatives up 2 points, and the NDP up 4 points, with the Greens having actually also gone up 3 points from 2 to 5, but we're just not including them here.
00:16:51.300This is a problem for Mark Carney. It should be very obvious for you to see. This is not the only
00:16:55.940poll showing this. Liaison, in fact, actually has the Conservatives leading in British Columbia now
00:17:01.640with around 34% of the vote to the Liberals 32 because they have a massive surge for the NDP
00:17:08.060where they're now sitting at like 23% in that province. Do I actually think they're doing that
00:17:13.500well there? Probably not. But again, sometimes a poll that's even hyperbolic with its results can
00:17:20.180show you what the momentum shift is. Liberals are losing their left flank to the NDP because
00:17:26.780Carney's more conservative rhetoric on oil and gas. At the same time, he's not actually going to
00:17:32.840build a pipeline, meaning that he's not actually hurting the conservatives that much anyways,
00:17:37.580because the conservative, you know, conservative voters are not going to actually move towards
00:17:41.820Carney unless he gets pipe into the ground and he's not doing it. And so Carney has built himself
00:17:48.080a, you know, effectively a perfect way for the liberals to lose British Columbia.
00:17:53.780Talk like a conservative on oil and gas while never actually giving results. The frantic left
00:18:00.120wing Greens or the lefty Green voters are going to run towards the NDP and the Green Party while
00:18:06.420the business liberals are slowly getting frustrated and shifting towards the conservatives.
00:18:11.280Plus, Mark Carney, his failure to deal with the Cowichan land title case properly and signing over the entire lower mainland's title to the Musqueam has been a great way of moving people who are actually in that older demographic, that home-owning demographic, towards the conservatives, even though that is the group that the liberals are supposed to be doing the best with across the country right now.
00:18:36.940BC is just right now currently a basket case for the Liberals. They are doing everything in their
00:18:43.040power to reduce their strength in one of the regions that they used to do the best in,
00:18:48.720the Lower Mainland. They could lose crazy amounts of seats in the Lower Mainland,
00:18:53.360both to their left as well as to their right. And we are going to be testing this theory this summer
00:18:58.500in the riding of North Vancouver Capilano, where Jonathan Wilkinson, one of the green left
00:19:03.840liberal MPs is resigning. And if Avi Lewis is going to do what I think he's going to do,
00:19:10.020he's going to throw an NDP candidate in there and a bunch of money behind them because he needs to
00:19:14.880prove the NDP is back. They only got 4% in that riding in the last election, even though previously
00:19:20.020they would usually get 20. He needs to demonstrate that the NDP isn't dead under his leadership,
00:19:24.920so he is going to toss money at that riding. I think the Greens are also going to put a lot of
00:19:29.800money in it. The conservatives definitely are. And Jonathan Wilkinson, although it was a safe
00:19:34.640liberal riding under his watch, previously it had been a conservative riding multiple times in the
00:19:40.680last 30 years. It's not exactly a riding that's always been to the left and that like basically
00:19:47.600Carney doesn't have to worry. He is going to have to worry about what's going to happen with the
00:19:52.000riding now that the MP is leaving who made the liberals safe in that area. And he's leaving
00:19:57.420while basically condemning partly the liberals for going too soft when it comes to the environment.
00:20:04.040Anyways, so in just a second here, I'm then going to erase all this stuff,
00:20:07.940and I want to bring you back, explain the nanos thing,
00:20:10.560and then we're going to be getting into the job numbers.
00:20:15.140This is the nanos suck segment of this episode.
00:20:19.540Now, that is a bit hyperbolic because I actually sometimes like nanos.
00:20:23.280They're actually quite accurate during general elections,
00:20:26.900But between general elections, they go to a cheaper form of their polling that tends to also have a much higher miscibility rate.
00:20:35.760That doesn't mean they're always wrong between elections.
00:20:38.480That just means that when they are wrong, they can be wrong really, really big.
00:20:43.420And this is what their most recent poll numbers are.
00:20:47.700So I'll just quickly write down these things because I forgot to before.
00:20:51.660This is when I'm supposed to tell you guys, thank you for your patience.
00:20:55.080not when I literally hit pause and then restart and say thank you for your patience even though
00:20:59.680you literally didn't wait at all. So we have LPC here, CPC, and NDP. I don't even think I need to
00:21:09.580bother with the block quebec clock. You guys don't really need to see those numbers too to get my
00:21:14.500point on why this poll is so bad. They're at 7% if you need to know. In this poll though they have
00:21:20.400nanos as the liberals at 42 percent which is in fact a couple points worse than they did in the
00:21:26.400last election 42 basically within the margin of error they're effectively out where they used to
00:21:33.080be they have in this poll the conservatives at just 29 percent of the vote and the NDP
00:21:44.700are at 13, holding from where they were in the last Nanos poll. Now, why does this not make any
00:21:52.900sense? Well, I'm just going to first show you what the swing was since the last Nanos poll.
00:21:58.860Since the last Nanos poll, the Liberals are doing 2% better than they were, the Conservatives are
00:22:04.740doing 4 points worse, and the NDP are holding steady at 13, Block is holding steady at 7,
00:22:11.280And then I believe the Greens are up one and they're at six percent, which is a big overpull for the Greens.
00:22:16.340I don't know what the Greens are currently doing that would be making their popularity go up.
00:22:21.040But do you know why this doesn't make sense? Why this swing doesn't make sense?
00:22:24.380I'm not just saying conservatives are too low. That's why it doesn't make sense.
00:22:27.560Maybe one day the conservatives will mess up so bad that 29 percent makes sense for them in a poll.
00:22:33.500This doesn't make sense because every poll that Nanos does, Nanos releases numbers of around 1,000 respondents, but they don't actually poll 1,000 people every time they release a poll.
00:22:47.740They tend to release more numbers than all the other firms because they release new numbers every three or four days, but that's because they actually only do the 1,000 responses in quarters.
00:22:59.240it's made up of four quarters what they will do is that they will pull around 250 260 270
00:23:09.120oftentimes their their number will be a little bit above a thousand on how many they sample but
00:23:13.940thousands their goal but every few days they'll basically knock off the bottom the lowest one
00:23:21.540forth and replace it with another new quarter, another new 250. And so when you see a swing
00:23:31.760between the Conservatives and Liberals of six points, putting the Conservatives down to 29%,
00:23:38.860that means that the new 250 people that they polled are far more liberal than the overall
00:23:46.400result is because it used to be 33% conservative to 40% liberal. Now that's, I don't think the
00:23:53.960conservatives are that low. And even the liberals probably are more like at 43 and the conservatives
00:23:58.820are more at like 35 or 36 right now, regardless of those numbers, just inherently being weird on
00:24:05.160their face in general, the conservatives down at the below at around only 33% or 32, but a 6% swing
00:24:12.720When you only hold 250 more people, that would require the most recent 250 that they hold to be like 65% liberal.
00:24:25.040No, your sample, each new quarter of your sample that you add in to bump off the last quarter that then goes out,
00:24:34.800it should at least look somewhat like the other quarters.
00:24:38.920Maybe it's a little bit higher or a little bit lower for one party or another based on
00:24:45.020But the theory of this is that it actually makes the polling more stable because it's
00:24:48.920supposed to be shock resistant, that you don't just have one new poll of 1,200 people in
00:24:54.080a bad news cycle make one party look great and one party look bad.
00:24:57.080The whole idea is it comes in little cycles so that the polling numbers tend to go up
00:25:02.280a little bit slower and down a little bit slower.
00:25:03.940But if you're having a 6% swing between the new quarters that you're adding in, that means you failed as a pollster. You are literally having polling samples you're adding into the mass that are like 60% liberal, that are like, what, like 23% conservative and 13% NDP still? No, that's not how statistics works.
00:25:29.660Nanos, if they're looking at these readouts and they're not saying, huh, we should try and do that 250 sample again, or maybe we should just do a full 1200 to see if that actually holds up with a higher sample.
00:25:46.780And the thing is, they still do the polling slow enough that by the time that this new 250 respondents is going to be replaced, they're going to be like three weeks old.
00:25:57.940So the problem is we have like three-week-old, really liberal-leaning samples included in future numbers now for multiple weeks, and it's going to make the Conservatives look like they're doing terrible simply because two weeks ago we had this extreme outlier result where like two-thirds of Canadians were voting Liberal, even though if you walk around in the world, it doesn't feel like that.
00:26:22.260I'm not just saying go out there and if it feels conservative out there, it's more conservative.
00:26:26.720I'm just saying when liberals or any party is leading massively, you can tell.
00:26:32.680You'll walk by a coffee shop and people are talking about how much they hate the government or they hate the opposition.
00:26:38.740You'll start to come up in conversations over time, not just if you'll walk out the door and people are screaming what they're voting.
00:26:44.040But there's a vibe that kind of exists when one party is just rocketing through the roof and above by 20% or the main opposition is only at 29. We would notice it. There would be people not even showing up to poly of events in Alberta. People would just kind of be getting, you know, not donating anymore. They stopped caring. Really not the environment out there.
00:27:06.700In fact, the conservative base is pretty much intact from where it was at last election, and the liberals, although they've been generally popular, at the same time, when you look over a lot of polls, they've kind of just stayed at where they were at last election, and that was elevated compared to previous elections, but it's not like they're soaring into the sky compared to election day.
00:27:28.080If anything, you could just say that their main success has been able to maintain what was a really good support level, 43%, since then, and being a little bit above or a little bit below.
00:27:37.580But we're not in an environment yet where one party just keeps gaining and one party keeps losing.
00:28:03.740Anyways, in just a second here, then I just wanted to quickly, I don't even need to clear the board.
00:28:08.360I just want to talk about those, people have been messaging me about when I did my video on the 88,000 jobs that the Liberals had created.
00:28:16.920because people have been telling me, and they are right, that the government says that they
00:28:20.960seasonally adjust the numbers. So the 88,000 already has seasonal workers taken out of it.
00:28:28.740That's only technically true. What they do is they remove seasonal workers that are basically like
00:28:36.100landscaping company workers who literally come back every single year, no matter what.
00:28:43.160That it doesn't take out seasonal workers that were created this year and might not come back next year. There's a reason why in that 88,000 number, it still includes massive amount of hotel and food service staff, people who work in cultural and recreational fields and transportation.
00:29:02.760It's not because the hotel and the food and the cultural tour sector is just booming right now and it's going to go all year.
00:29:11.580It's just because those jobs were previously not created in previous years because last year we just had the tariff situation hit.
00:29:18.860And so a lot of people were just not hiring out of fear.
00:29:22.620And because those jobs were not created last May, this May is not considered seasonal.
00:29:27.980So it looks like full-time permanent jobs.
00:29:30.780They are not. I'm sorry, but the hotel up in Yellowknife is not going to be keeping those people, all the new workers they hired on in May throughout the year. It's not going to happen. The food service industry that needs to hire a bunch of people because people are traveling all over during the summer and you need more people at your fast food restaurant in the sort of stopover town between destinations, you're not going to be able to keep all 80 of them employed during the winter.
00:29:56.780but if those jobs technically were not created in the previous year they don't get a seasonally
00:30:02.880adjusted seasonal adjustments only apply to jobs that are created every single year no matter what
00:30:10.940which is only like a few thousand it's all the people who work in landscaping who work maybe in
00:30:16.140deck building and they've been literally rehired again and again every single year that is all
00:30:23.040that a seasonal adjustment actually adjusts for you can literally can that's how stupid it is
00:30:27.760seasonal adjustment doesn't just adjust out the vast majority of seasonal jobs and then we also
00:30:34.880have the fifa jobs part of the 88 000 which are definitely seasonal but because fifa doesn't
00:30:40.440happen every year it's technically not seasonal and then we also have a half a quarter of the
00:30:46.800jobs created or the like of all the jobs in may that were created were mostly census public sector
00:30:52.640jobs because we need people working the census. Fair enough. That makes sense. But this is not
00:30:58.800a Mark Carney economic miracle. All these things happened in spite of Mark Carney. FIFA had been
00:31:05.200scheduled to take place in North America for a few years now. Every few years, a country's bid
00:31:11.540on where the next FIFA is going to be taking place. The census was always going to happen
00:31:19.500this year whether carney was uh prime minister whether trudeau was still prime minister or
00:31:24.620whether pure poly became prime minister and it would be equally cynical for any of those other
00:31:29.260men who have taken credit if they were currently prime minister right now and then again seasonally
00:31:34.700adjusted doesn't get rid of all the seasonal jobs so in four or five months here we're going to see
00:31:39.180a giant fall off probably 94 or five probably three months we're going to see a giant fall off
00:31:43.900of jobs and the liberals are going to be oh why did that happen oh they were just seasonal don't
00:31:47.820worry about it they were all seasonal except they weren't acting like they were seasonal they were
00:31:50.940like we already seasonally adjusted out all the seasonal workers no you didn't you seasonally
00:31:56.460adjusted out the consistently seasonal jobs not the ones that pop up this year but sometimes they
00:32:02.300don't pop up next year the the economy is far more complicated you can't schedule ahead of time how
00:32:07.740many seasonal jobs are going to be created by a business every single year but whatever what do
00:32:13.340i know i'm not an economist guys but uh that should be it for this video hopefully there you'll learn
00:32:19.340something hopefully this put your kids to sleep if they weren't going to sleep any anything uh that
00:32:25.420i can hope for i hope it happened to you uh anyways with all that being said thank you guys for
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