The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - January 14, 2025


Liberals polling is unrecoverable - Doug Ford may push early Ontario election


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Justin Trudeau has resigned as Prime Minister of Canada, and now it's time to pick a new leader for the Liberal Party of Canada. But what will it take to replace him? Is there any hope for the party in the short term?

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here.
00:00:02.840 So it looks like the big Liberal Party switcheroo of Justin Trudeau for some boring face for the Liberal Party is not going to work at all.
00:00:12.080 While yes, the Liberal Party has a 20-point gap between themselves and the Conservatives, and it seems to be an insurmountable polling gap,
00:00:20.720 it's not the gap that's actually the problem for the Liberals.
00:00:23.520 It's that no matter who the Liberals pick to be their new leader, Canadians are not going to consider voting for them.
00:00:30.480 Here is a poll result from Ipsos that highlights this issue perfectly.
00:00:36.140 The question is, now that Justin Trudeau has resigned, how likely would you be to consider voting for the Liberal Party in the next federal election?
00:00:44.700 23% of respondents say very likely or fairly likely, 57% say not very likely or not at all likely, and 20% say don't know.
00:00:56.660 Now, let's be very clear, they're not going to capture that full 20%.
00:01:00.920 23% basically is what the Liberal Party base is.
00:01:05.840 So basically everyone who is already voting Liberal, surprisingly, might still be voting Liberal.
00:01:12.040 And then 57%, a majority of Canadians, a large majority of Canadians, will never consider voting for them in this next election.
00:01:21.580 And with that remaining 20%, it's impossible for the Liberals to capture it all, because there are multiple parties in Canada's system.
00:01:29.760 Those are going to be NDP voters, Bloc voters, Green voters, other party voters.
00:01:35.780 There's just no capacity left for the Liberals to actually gain with somebody new.
00:01:41.380 And do you really think that the person with the secret sauce in hand is one of the people who have announced that they're running for the Liberal leadership so far?
00:01:50.160 Again, they might as well all tattoo Justin Trudeau's face on their faces, because they don't actually have any real policy disagreements with Trudeau.
00:02:00.100 So even Freeland, who ended up resigning in a huff saying, oh, I don't like all these gimmicky policies, she was perfectly fine with the gimmicky policies for years.
00:02:09.440 She only resigned all of a sudden because Trudeau was about to demote her, as well as the fact that he made her look silly by promising a $40 billion deficit, which isn't even good.
00:02:20.540 And then Trudeau forcing her to move it up to like a $63, $62 billion deficit.
00:02:27.000 That's the only reason she resigned, is that she was just particularly embarrassed by Trudeau.
00:02:31.680 So if he told her to aim for a $65 billion deficit, and she came out with $62, she would be perfectly happy to take credit for undershooting the deficit line by $3 billion, even though we should try and have, you know, a balanced budget, if not a surplus, so we can start paying down the debt and actually like slashing wasteful programs.
00:02:53.180 Just a thought. But let's get into some of these other results, because all this, again, is so telling at just the lack of any traction that the Liberal Party is not only going to have in the next federal election.
00:03:05.980 I don't think the Liberals have a good chance of coming second place for at least another two elections.
00:03:11.880 I think that 2025 is just the start of probably an eight to 12 year rebuilding program inside the Liberal Party.
00:03:18.820 The only thing that could save them is if the Conservative Party just starts shooting itself in the foot and giving credence that maybe the Liberals were right about some things.
00:03:26.720 I don't think that's going to happen. But, you know, never say never when people like Aaron O'Toole have been Conservative Party leader in the past.
00:03:33.300 But I would say that Pierre Polyab is doing a genuinely good job at the moment.
00:03:38.540 Here, let's look at this. So these are the current polls for who people would consider voting for as Liberal Party leader.
00:03:46.920 Many of these people who are named in this have said that they're not running.
00:03:50.680 I don't follow Ipsos, obviously, because this has been only the last couple of days that they have announced that they're not going to run.
00:03:57.820 And this is not this is like people rating people's very favorable or fairly likely.
00:04:03.860 Look at this. What is your impression of the following potential replacements for Justin Trudeau as leader of the Liberal Party?
00:04:10.340 And this is just positive ratings. And here's another one.
00:04:13.940 If they became leader of the Liberal Party before the next election, how likely would he be to consider voting for the Liberal Party?
00:04:19.700 And this is my point exactly. One, look at the positive ratings.
00:04:24.380 Obviously, this is going to be weighed down by the fact that most people have zero opinion about them at all.
00:04:29.640 And then Conservatives are going to have extremely negative opinions of them.
00:04:33.060 But Chrystia Freeland is leading the pack, like setting the trend with a positive rating of 29 percent.
00:04:41.540 That's what that's the rating you get when people think you need to step down as leader.
00:04:45.760 And while, yes, you could say, well, not enough Canadians know who she is.
00:04:49.660 More than 50 percent of Canadians know who Chrystia Freeland is. 0.65
00:04:52.440 And she's at a 29 percent positive approval rating.
00:04:55.820 Mark Carney, 17. Melanie Jolie, who's not running at 15.
00:04:59.560 Although she said, I'm totally ready to run.
00:05:01.760 Oh, I could totally lead this party as the first female leader. 0.91
00:05:04.500 I've just got stuff to do.
00:05:06.760 Christy Clark, 12 percent.
00:05:08.640 Dominic LeBlanc, also not running 11.
00:05:10.780 Anita Anand, not only not running for leader, not running again for the party in general,
00:05:14.940 only clocking in at 9 percent.
00:05:16.900 And Francois-Philippe Champagne, who we are going to hear later today whether or not he is going to throw his hat in the ring and get absolutely stomped.
00:05:24.620 He is at 9 percent, too.
00:05:26.320 Sean Frazier at 6.
00:05:27.940 Sean Frazier, who, by the way, both the Liberal Party as well as liberal talking heads in the media,
00:05:35.260 were playing this guy up as like the second coming of Justin Trudeau.
00:05:39.260 He's Justin Trudeau, but taller, hotter.
00:05:42.240 He's more moderate or whatever.
00:05:43.900 Like, I don't even know, I don't even remember the adjectives that they tried to place on this guy.
00:05:49.240 Sean Frazier is boring.
00:05:50.860 He is less charismatic Justin Trudeau with more height.
00:05:53.840 He has traded an extra, like, half foot of height in favor of being boring.
00:05:59.040 I don't get it.
00:06:00.080 Again, Trudeau, terrible leader, corrupt, bad policy, nasty person.
00:06:04.260 He seems to have an actual contemptuous, like, attitude towards Canadians.
00:06:10.180 He is theatrical.
00:06:11.480 He is charismatic.
00:06:12.280 All the people who have announced so far are literally the personification of brain death due to boredom.
00:06:19.680 These people do not have personalities because the Liberal Party doesn't like competing personalities with the leader.
00:06:26.960 The Conservative Party, although the Conservative Party sometimes forgets about this,
00:06:31.100 and, like, again, in Calgary, Signal Hill, when I ran for the federal nomination in this writing, I had, like, a thousand supporters.
00:06:37.440 I got kicked out of the nomination because they didn't want me to win.
00:06:40.040 Not the party in general, but certain individuals that didn't want me to.
00:06:43.700 Not Polyev, not people like that, but, like, just insiders who are able to pull strings.
00:06:48.980 Sometimes the Conservative Party forgets that having a lot of big personalities and characters is one of his strengths.
00:06:53.820 But overall, the party has a lot of personality in it.
00:06:58.040 If Polyev suddenly was not able to be, like, the leader of the Conservative Party tomorrow,
00:07:05.060 there would be, like, a dozen, two dozen people that you could actually openly speculate on whether or not they would run
00:07:11.860 and if they'd have a good chance of winning, because there's a lot of big characters in the Conservative Party.
00:07:18.220 Lesleyan Lewis, Michael Cooper, Jamil Giovanni, Aaron Gunn, like, Melissa Lantzman, Michelle Rempel.
00:07:26.300 And I'm naming people I both really like, and I'm lukewarm on, and some I'm not that hot on overall.
00:07:32.960 But the thing is, they're big personalities.
00:07:35.780 You get Roman Baber is a good one. 0.97
00:07:38.200 Even people who are, like, more low-key, but you could say that person's really well-credentialed.
00:07:43.600 They're a really solid Orthodox Conservative.
00:07:45.700 Blaine Calkins is really good.
00:07:47.960 I really like Damien Couric.
00:07:49.920 Damien Couric's great.
00:07:50.980 Arnold Vearson.
00:07:52.120 All these people are great.
00:07:53.100 Kathy Wagenthal.
00:07:54.560 You have Garnet Genuit.
00:07:56.340 You have a lot of people from Saskatchewan.
00:07:58.260 Sometimes all the names start to slip past me, but they're, like, really great members of Parliament.
00:08:04.780 And, like, what do you have in the Liberal Party?
00:08:07.180 You have people who have name recognition, but it's only because of their proximity to Justin Trudeau.
00:08:13.080 Christy Freeland, again, is leading the pack.
00:08:16.960 Not somebody exactly known for her stellar speaking skills or her ability to galvanize an audience.
00:08:24.540 If any, she's very much the opposite of that.
00:08:26.940 She doesn't really have much at all.
00:08:28.400 Like, she doesn't really have much at all in terms of skills with debating or, you know, public speaking at rallies.
00:08:36.600 And you kind of need that if you're going to compete with your Polyev. 0.73
00:08:40.260 This is not a COVID election where you get to kind of hide in the background and be voted in because, well, we're the government.
00:08:46.720 And if people want to be patriotic Canadians, they better vote for us.
00:08:50.880 That's how Trudeau basically got in 2021, also with the help of Aaron O'Toole being the worst conservative leader since Kim Campbell.
00:08:58.760 But here's another poll result I thought was just interesting to highlight.
00:09:01.980 How would he rate the overall performance of Justin Trudeau during his time as Prime Minister of Canada?
00:09:06.160 And this is important because every single liberal is going to be running with the exact same type of record because they're all stapled to his hip.
00:09:15.320 Look at this.
00:09:16.640 4% of Canadians would give him an A.
00:09:18.800 16% a B.
00:09:20.480 20% a C, which is basically just trying to be nice.
00:09:23.980 15% D.
00:09:25.140 38%.
00:09:26.260 The overwhelming plurality give him an F, a failing grade.
00:09:31.300 And 7% are too nice to say F and say don't know.
00:09:35.020 So another thing here, this is the overall ratings right now.
00:09:39.340 The conservatives are at 46%.
00:09:41.300 The liberals are at 20%.
00:09:43.260 And again, we saw down here, how are you more likely to vote fairly or very much more likely to vote liberal if there's a new leader?
00:09:52.700 23%.
00:09:53.180 So right now with Trudeau having 38% of people giving failing grades, 15% giving him a D, and 20% giving him a C.
00:10:01.820 And you don't really cast a ballot for someone you'd give a C to.
00:10:05.460 He's currently at 20% with those ratings.
00:10:08.620 And then the party's going to try and run someone. 1.00
00:10:11.080 And all this time and effort is going to get them the capacity of having 23% of people very or fairly likely to consider voting for them, which basically completely overlaps with all the people already considering voting for them.
00:10:23.220 Here's another good stat.
00:10:24.640 Would you already approve of Trudeau's resignation?
00:10:26.620 Only 19% of people disapprove of him resigning.
00:10:29.420 And let's be clear, that is basically just BK Belton, Vicky Campbell, all the true and on people, as well as conservatives who wanted to see him get his butt kicked at the next federal election.
00:10:40.520 Justin Trudeau, I actually guarantee, is going to come back at some point.
00:10:44.920 That by not losing the next election, not being the face of the loss, it allows him to come back maybe eight years, let the liberals lose an extra election cycle after 2025, and then reintroduce himself.
00:10:57.540 As the progressive leader of the past, that's much better than the conservatives because the conservatives did something minorly wrong, because every government's going to do something wrong.
00:11:06.300 Mark my words, the man is going to try it because he has absolutely no shame at all.
00:11:11.120 Anyways, there isn't something new I just quickly want to move on and talk about, and that is a potential Ontario provincial election.
00:11:20.180 Please, no, please do not do this to me.
00:11:22.940 I do not like it.
00:11:23.940 It's sad.
00:11:24.820 It hurts my face to think about.
00:11:27.420 I do not want an Ontario provincial election.
00:11:29.500 Actually, before we do this, I need to show you something funny.
00:11:31.760 I do actually have a Liberal Party leadership candidate with personality, with theatrics that I need to introduce to you.
00:11:39.600 But before I do that, guys, remember to like the video, subscribe to the channel, do all that great stuff.
00:11:44.860 We're trying to reach 100,000 subscribers by December of this year, probably midway through December.
00:11:51.540 And if I don't get to 100,000 subscribers, I owe all my friends dinner.
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00:12:00.860 or you can try and secretly befriend me so that I owe you dinner in December if I don't make my goal.
00:12:06.580 So choose your path wisely.
00:12:08.320 But this is my friend and actually co-owner of the National Telegraph, Daniel Boardman,
00:12:15.880 who is running for to be the next leader of the Liberal Party.
00:12:20.760 You would have seen him last time when he was on the show talking about asking Yara Sachs basic questions,
00:12:27.560 and then she assaulted him, tried to grab his phone, and then ran away from him.
00:12:31.560 You don't see him in videos as often because he tends to be out, you know, out in the world pulling shenanigans like this.
00:12:37.620 But I thought he had the best announcement video for his run at the Liberal leadership.
00:12:43.100 Obviously, this is a big satire, but I think it's still enjoyable,
00:12:46.800 and it's one of the only things worth watching right now in the Liberal leadership race.
00:12:51.040 I'm going to link the video on X down in the description below as well as pinned to the top of the comments.
00:12:56.560 Go give him a like.
00:12:57.680 Go give him a retweet.
00:12:58.740 He's a Liberal Party candidate you can get behind.
00:13:01.180 Niall, it's me, Daniel Boardman, future Prime Minister of Canada,
00:13:08.900 coming to you with the first ever Canada Last platform.
00:13:13.540 Right now, we have a leadership that doesn't care too much about you.
00:13:17.600 The economy is in shambles, right, because we're sending too much of our money
00:13:21.860 through random groups directly to terrorist organizations.
00:13:25.880 That's not good.
00:13:27.360 When I am Prime Minister, I'm going to send all your tax dollars directly to Hamas. 1.00
00:13:31.960 No middleman.
00:13:33.000 Save money.
00:13:34.260 All right?
00:13:34.860 And Canada, there's a lot of talk about Donald Trump's annexation.
00:13:37.940 I will tell you this.
00:13:38.680 Canada will become the 51st state of China.
00:13:42.260 That's right.
00:13:43.020 If we're going to pretend that there's Chinese foreign interference,
00:13:45.560 I say we go maximum foreign interference. 0.99
00:13:47.500 So, remember, you don't have to be 18.
00:13:51.720 You don't have to be a Canadian citizen.
00:13:53.860 That's why you should vote for me wherever you are in the world.
00:13:57.600 And we're here in India with my good old voters.
00:14:01.100 Thank you.
00:14:01.480 Vote for me.
00:14:02.700 They love my platform.
00:14:04.300 All right?
00:14:04.660 Everyone loves the Canada Last platform.
00:14:07.180 When I am Prime Minister, there will be 100% tax rate.
00:14:10.840 There will be no jobs.
00:14:12.600 You think a carbon tax just on oil and gas is there?
00:14:16.280 I'm going to carbon tax your breathing.
00:14:18.580 You inhale oxygen.
00:14:19.900 You exhale taxes.
00:14:21.380 That's it.
00:14:22.240 Vote for Daniel.
00:14:23.380 Canada Last.
00:14:24.720 Foreign interference for all. 1.00
00:14:26.620 Daniel's in the bad.
00:14:29.000 Ho Chi Minh. 0.65
00:14:30.480 For some reason, he says Ho Chi Minh at the end.
00:14:32.460 But Daniel's brilliant.
00:14:34.220 He makes up for not doing as many videos for TNT with doing extremely funny things in real life.
00:14:41.080 And so, yeah, go give that video a like.
00:14:43.140 Follow his campaign.
00:14:44.240 Give the boy a follow.
00:14:45.180 Oh, he's going to change our country and make us run 100% by terrorists rather than just 50% at the moment.
00:14:52.360 But, yeah, here is the polling from Ontario.
00:14:55.860 And this is where I actually think Doug Ford is in real danger if he tries to hold a new election.
00:15:01.960 Because while he is still ahead in the polls, this is a lead dictated by the fact that he is not going to arbitrarily call a provincial election a year before they have to have one.
00:15:14.720 The next Ontario election is not scheduled until June of 2026.
00:15:19.400 And Doug Ford is going to try and move before the next election and try and basically take advantage of the fact that Trudeau is very unpopular and people will just vote for whatever is blue on the ballot.
00:15:33.080 And so he doesn't want Trudeau to become the next – he doesn't want Polyev to become the next prime minister.
00:15:40.020 And then he has to run in an election with Polyev as the prime minister.
00:15:43.660 Because the secret about Doug Ford and the Ontario PC party is they are basically just liberals.
00:15:50.000 Are they as far left as the current federal liberals and Justin Trudeau?
00:15:54.620 No, but they give them a run for their money. 0.96
00:15:56.900 In fact, Doug Ford and the PCs, which might as well just become the progressive party of Ontario, they have partnered with the liberals on tons of subsidy programs.
00:16:06.300 They push DEI in the government.
00:16:08.220 They have not gotten rid of the Ontario equivalent of SOGI123 in schools, not the crazy sex ed curriculum.
00:16:14.720 They have done none of it.
00:16:16.340 Their budget is always being blown out every year.
00:16:19.120 Taxes haven't been lowered.
00:16:20.260 They have some of the highest taxes in Canada still.
00:16:23.180 It's nuts.
00:16:24.240 And then also there's corruption on top of it.
00:16:26.040 But sometimes the Ontario government does the right thing.
00:16:30.000 Like they're going to try and privatize liquor stores or they were going to try and remove some land from the green belt to build some more houses.
00:16:36.620 But even then, it's like then they're trying to cut a deal with a specific friend to be able to pull land out of the green belt for.
00:16:42.480 But not the general public.
00:16:43.960 Not like opening up more land for any developer to bid on to develop.
00:16:48.580 No, no, no.
00:16:49.120 Only Doug Ford's friends.
00:16:51.080 So Doug Ford would be stupid to try and hold an election right now.
00:16:55.400 I'd almost invite him to because I think the guy needs to be whacked on the nose.
00:16:59.520 Because like at this point, honestly, the Liberals have moderated a decent amount since Del Duca and Kathleen Wynne were in power.
00:17:08.460 They're still bad.
00:17:09.600 I would still never vote for them.
00:17:11.000 I would never vote for the NDP.
00:17:12.520 But Merit Stiles is at least not insane.
00:17:14.820 She's not a hyper-progressive, although I will condemn her if she tries to allow Sarah Jama back into her caucus, who is just a flat-out terror supporter.
00:17:23.640 But all three of these parties are literally all just different versions of Liberals.
00:17:28.220 Like the Ontario PCs are slightly more businessy Liberals.
00:17:31.880 But at the end of the day, their actual solutions to growing business in Ontario is throwing money at them, subsidies, whatever.
00:17:40.280 It's stupid.
00:17:41.940 By the way, they also funded the Cricket Factory in Kitchener or wherever it was.
00:17:48.120 They also funded the Cricket Factory.
00:17:49.600 They also funded the battery plants with Trudeau.
00:17:53.100 They also funded the EV power of the plants.
00:17:55.960 They also mandate 8% green energy on the grid that has been spiking the cost of energy in Ontario.
00:18:03.380 Because while, yes, provinces buy per kilowatt hour or whatever units they buy power in, although they buy power at a fixed price,
00:18:12.720 you get massive subsidies if you're providing green energy onto the grid, which means that per kilowatt hour,
00:18:19.260 taxpayers are paying multiple times more for that 8% of the grid to the point where that 8% mandated green energy amount on the grid
00:18:28.660 ends up costing people like 30% to 40% of their power bills every month.
00:18:34.200 This is why in Ontario, guys, if you live in Ontario, not only should you vote for the new blue party of Ontario,
00:18:41.840 which, by the way, is run by Jim Carajalios, the man who actually originally started the axe,
00:18:47.840 the carbon tax movement back in 2018, and ousted Patrick Brown as the PC Ontario leader.
00:18:54.340 But he is also running, like, he's also a very competent manager of a small party.
00:18:59.820 His party runs a candidate in every single riding.
00:19:02.220 They have a functioning EDA in every single riding.
00:19:04.780 They were, in fact, the first party to have all of their, like, their candidate, like, financial returns in.
00:19:10.840 He is a very good leader, but you guys should consider not just voting for them, but potentially running for the new blue party of Ontario.
00:19:18.120 I'm probably going to show up to Ontario whenever that election gets called to doorknock for them to do all sorts of things.
00:19:23.920 Because the PCs, even if the new blue party is not going to form government, they got 2.3% in the last election,
00:19:31.100 which is actually impressive for, like, a first time showing when Jim had just recovered from, like, really deep cancer treatments,
00:19:37.900 surgeries, chemo, and all that, they got a decent amount, and they even had saboteur parties running against them
00:19:43.320 who were trying to run with basically the same platform to stifle the third-party movement.
00:19:48.340 But, like, they actually can be a check on the Ontario PCs to demand the bare minimum of conservative standards
00:19:55.900 be actually implemented in Ontario, because that's the problem for Doug Ford.
00:20:00.520 Justin Trudeau sucks.
00:20:01.680 He's the worst prime minister we've had in probably a century.
00:20:05.400 I can't name somebody worse other than saying Kim Campbell was really pathetic,
00:20:09.400 but at least she didn't technically mess up anything worse than anyone else had.
00:20:13.840 But because Trudeau's so bad, everyone kind of sees Doug Ford as possibly better.
00:20:20.600 Yes, he's better, but you can't really compare people to Trudeau, because Trudeau is so monumentally terrible.
00:20:27.220 Like, the only person I could think who would be a worse prime minister than Trudeau would be Singh,
00:20:31.140 but Singh is safely kept away from the prime minister's office by his own crushing political incompetence.
00:20:37.680 So Doug Ford, that's why he wants an early election, because once Polyev is prime minister,
00:20:42.860 the standard of what a conservative should be is going to be way higher.
00:20:46.140 And there are tons of conservatives all around the country who are actually scared of Polyev becoming the prime minister,
00:20:52.960 because you might actually have to be conservative when a real conservative like Polyev is slashing wasteful spending,
00:20:58.980 reducing taxes, spending more in the military, cracking down on crime, reducing the size of the budget.
00:21:05.700 Daniel Smith is going to have to lower taxes at some point.
00:21:08.940 She cannot cast Nahed Nenshi as a tax and spend liberal when she has not reduced taxes and she's only increased spending.
00:21:16.060 Just a fact out there.
00:21:18.020 I will still vote UCP.
00:21:19.320 I will still campaign for them.
00:21:20.840 But I am warning them, they are going to lose if they do not figure out how to reduce taxes.
00:21:26.720 They do not figure out how to reduce spending and actually playing to the middle class base who put them into office in the first place.
00:21:33.320 A base full of business owners and whatnot.
00:21:35.720 Doug Ford is like the worst conservative in Canada right now.
00:21:40.160 The budget's been blown out every single year.
00:21:42.460 Taxes are way up.
00:21:43.780 Education has not been improved.
00:21:45.540 The one thing I can give them is that health care is still the best in Ontario.
00:21:48.820 But that's more of just a consequence that there is the most investment in terms of tax dollars in Ontario,
00:21:55.200 that it's the biggest province and you get a lot of doctors in Toronto, the Toronto area willing to live and work there.
00:22:02.040 But if you go to like northern Ontario, health care sucks again.
00:22:05.000 If you go to certain other parts of Ontario, there's just non-existent health care.
00:22:08.620 But anyways, still, vote New Blue, Doug Ford's a clown, and I do, I hope that he doesn't call an election,
00:22:17.120 although maybe it's a good thing because it might snap the PCs out of it and that they are required to actually improve how they do things.
00:22:23.540 But anyways, that's it for me today, guys.
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00:22:36.840 And I'll see you guys at some other point.
00:22:39.680 To sum it all up, yeah, the Liberals choosing new leaders, not going to help them.
00:22:43.460 Doug Ford calling an election could be a very bad thing,
00:22:47.220 although it could be a very good thing if he's checked by New Blue.
00:22:50.140 Vote New Blue.
00:22:51.180 Consider being one of their candidates.
00:22:52.520 Go look up their website.
00:22:53.420 And vote for Daniel Boardman as the Liberal Party leader.
00:22:57.820 Not really, but yeah.