The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - September 23, 2025


Liberals pressured to fire incompetent Public Safety Minister!


Episode Stats

Length

32 minutes

Words per Minute

179.6363

Word Count

5,848

Sentence Count

358

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

Wyatt Claypool talks about Public Safety Minister Gary Amasangari and the gun confiscation program in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, Canada, and why it's a bad idea. He also talks about the "buyback" program and what it means for public safety.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here. Thank you for tuning into the show today. It will be a longer
00:00:06.180 one because you cannot possibly encapsulate all the incompetence of Public Safety Minister Gary
00:00:12.900 Amasangari in just a 10-minute video. But right now, pressure is mounting for Prime Minister Mark
00:00:19.980 Carney to remove Gary Amasangari from cabinet. Now, I don't actually think Carney is going to
00:00:26.140 do it in the short term. I think he's going to wait till winter break and then shuffle Gary Amasangari
00:00:31.600 out of cabinet quietly. Because if you do it right now, obviously it will look like a big
00:00:37.680 conservative win because they are the main group obviously putting pressure on them in order to
00:00:43.280 get rid of Amasangari. And so they'll try to do it at a time when the media can just pretend, oh,
00:00:49.620 you know, personality conflict. There were some problems and now they're going to make him a
00:00:53.420 principal secretary to somebody else. Everyone will still know it was a conservative victory,
00:00:59.100 but, you know, Carney can pretend like this was just all, you know, according to his plan
00:01:03.540 in the first place. You know, Gary has done a great job and now he will be moving on to greener pastures,
00:01:09.240 i.e. the far back benches. But we need to go over the rollout of the Cape Breton buyback program,
00:01:17.120 which is really just a gun confiscation. And then I want to talk about Gary just absolutely
00:01:22.960 taking it on the chin in question period. This is becoming a big albatross around the liberal
00:01:30.000 government's neck. And I think that we are going to continue seeing the liberals lose credibility
00:01:35.100 with Canadians and keep slipping down the popularity rankings. We even just had an Angus
00:01:40.840 Reid poll come out that shows the conservative lead is starting to expand a little bit, not massively,
00:01:46.860 but considering right now we're only like seven months into the liberal government,
00:01:51.000 six months into the liberal government, and they are already behind the conservatives is quite
00:01:56.900 telling. But anyways, before we get into it, I just quickly want to plug the fact that, hey,
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00:02:08.180 I'm trying to get to 100,000 subscribers by mid-December of this year, or else I lose the bet
00:02:13.640 with my friends and I owe all of them dinner. If I win, they just owe me four guys owing me one guy
00:02:19.480 dinner. It was a very lopsided bet, mostly just to put pressure on myself. And then also, of course,
00:02:24.860 leave a comment with what you think. I like scrolling through and seeing what people are saying.
00:02:28.780 And also, it does help the show on the algorithm. But now, without further ado, here is Gary Amasangri
00:02:35.920 standing behind the RCMP Cape Breton chief announcing the rollout of this buyback program.
00:02:43.240 Of course, Amasangri is the man to his right. Oh my goodness, they had Jamie Batsy show up for this?
00:02:49.360 I'm pleased to be here today on behalf of the Cape Breton Regional Police Service to collaborate
00:02:53.380 with the government of Canada on this pilot for the assault-style firearm compensation program.
00:02:59.180 Police see firsthand the devastating impacts of gun violence, and we know the importance of removing
00:03:07.380 these dangerous firearms from our communities. So we are pleased, as a police service, to be able
00:03:13.180 to assist by providing a safe and secure process for firearms owners to voluntarily return firearms
00:03:20.480 that the government has now prohibited for public safety. Okay, there's a couple things here.
00:03:25.700 One, the whole voluntary side of this. When they mean it's voluntary, they mean that you can
00:03:31.900 voluntarily come and sell your gun back to the government, and they won't later try and prosecute
00:03:38.280 you for owning it. So it's not voluntary. There is immense government pressure in order to follow
00:03:44.180 the program. I hope a lot of gun owners just forget they even heard there was a buyback program going
00:03:49.200 on, you know, lose your weapons in a boating accident. I don't know. You know, have them under a giant
00:03:54.600 pile of books in your house. The thing is that this gun ban is not going to stand up in the long run,
00:03:59.280 and we know this because Amasangri himself, the public safety minister, even said it was bad policy,
00:04:06.000 and they're only doing this because it was a campaign promise from back in 2021, and so they're
00:04:11.220 still having to carry through with it. And also with this chief of police, Robert J. Walsh, truly it
00:04:18.560 demonstrates how so often these higher positions within the RCMP or other police forces in Canada
00:04:26.680 are not about being a good cop. It's about being a loyal stooge for the establishment,
00:04:33.340 for the established order of Canada, which is the liberal government. Do you think any actual cop
00:04:39.100 in Cape Breton thinks that the big risk to public safety is legal guns? People who went through the
00:04:47.040 training to get a possession and acquisition license or a restricted PAL, which Gary Amasangri
00:04:53.900 doesn't know what those two things are. Quite literally, he got called out for it not even
00:04:57.700 knowing what a Canadian gun license was. But obviously, a legal gun owner who went through
00:05:02.240 all the training, doesn't have a criminal record, is going to be pretty responsible with their weapons.
00:05:07.580 They are not the people who are going to carry out a mass shooting. And even the shooting that took
00:05:13.320 place, the mass shooting that took place in Nova Scotia, was done with illegal handguns, as well
00:05:19.140 as an illegally fixed up police car so that he could impersonate a cop. There was many crimes going on
00:05:25.060 in that shooting, and it had nothing to do with people who are part of sports shooting associations
00:05:30.700 or people who just have it for personal protection and went through all of the necessary
00:05:35.120 hoops in order to get their rifle or handgun. But I will keep letting Robert J. Walsh go for here.
00:05:41.660 I don't know what J stands for. Let's say it's Jimothy, Robert Jimothy Walsh. And then we will
00:05:46.440 later move on to Gary Amasangri getting absolutely dunked on in question period.
00:05:51.800 At the Cape Breton Regional Police Service, we have the capacity and the expertise to safely collect,
00:05:57.780 verify, and secure the prohibited firearms identified in our area so that the government
00:06:03.560 can test the elements of this program. We are a large enough organization to facilitate,
00:06:10.460 with no impact, to our frontline service delivery.
00:06:15.140 Liaising with gun owners and the government, we will provide feedback to ensure the program
00:06:20.480 operates smoothly before opening Canada-wide. Testing their collection process with our police
00:06:27.040 service gives the government an opportunity to work with a municipal partner as they prepare
00:06:32.040 to collaborate with a number of non-federal partners across the country.
00:06:36.480 This program is really a way to help lawful gun owners stay in compliance with the law.
00:06:44.620 I.e. don't have guns. We're just trying to make sure lawful gun owners are compliant with the law.
00:06:50.580 So give us your guns and then you're going to be lawfully compliant once you're disarmed.
00:06:54.260 It's so foolish. I know you can still own other models of weapons, but the weapons that they banned
00:07:00.240 were purely arbitrary to the point where they had paintball guns and airsoft rifles on the list
00:07:06.020 because they had no clue what they were doing. Not that they should be banning any of these things,
00:07:10.580 but the whole point is that they just merely just, you know, ironically shotgun sprayed a whole list of
00:07:16.260 firearms like, ah, these ones are too dangerous because they're black or something like that.
00:07:20.700 They're not wooden rifles. It's a black rifle, which means it's scary, even though the caliber
00:07:25.260 is the exact same thing and the functionality is oftentimes the exact same. But now we don't need
00:07:31.600 to listen to the rest of that. I want to jump over to the actual details of the buyback because the
00:07:38.860 Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights, the CCFR, released a list of what they're actually planning
00:07:44.880 on buying your guns back for your assault style weapons. Look, if you have, and I'm not a firearms
00:07:52.220 expert, but if you have a steel GM model GM-16, you'll get $150 back. A Mosberg 702 Blinkster Tactical 22,
00:08:03.780 $190. Like, what? L8, you'll get $270. If you have an AP-15, you'll get $300. Again, I'm no guns expert,
00:08:16.820 but I have a feeling that this is not the retail value of these firearms. In fact, they are heavily lowballing you
00:08:24.720 because the liberals didn't actually want to put even that much money behind this buyback program.
00:08:29.040 It's like $745 million. And so in order to make it enough money where they could feasibly actually or
00:08:37.720 conceivably actually buy back all the guns, they're going to be giving you like one third value for a lot
00:08:43.460 of these weapons. And then, again, not even that you should even think of selling it back to these
00:08:49.400 people because, yeah, don't give the government an inch when it comes to your property rights and your
00:08:55.240 own personal safety because this is both implicating your ability to defend yourself
00:09:01.960 as well as actually be able to own your own property. Here, Polyev tweeted this out today,
00:09:07.800 which kind of encapsulates him dunking on Gary Amasangari yesterday, but we will be showing what
00:09:13.200 he did today. Polyev here says, Liberal Public Safety Minister Gary Amasangari got caught telling the
00:09:19.720 truth yesterday. He admitted the $742 million liberal gun buyback boondoggle will do nothing
00:09:26.840 to keep Canadians safe. He's targeting law-buying firearm owners as a violent criminal and extortion
00:09:33.220 surge across the country under his watch. And then he says, stop the incompetence, fire Gary now.
00:09:39.640 And that's also why Mark Carney is probably going to be unlikely to fire him right away because the
00:09:43.760 conservatives are putting such pressure on him. He doesn't want to look like he's having to do
00:09:47.720 another climb down on another policy. And so he's probably going to wait a little bit before
00:09:52.480 throwing Gary under the bus. But here is a great clip today of Conservative MP Andrew Lawton going
00:10:00.120 after the minister for having not even known what a gun license is or the differences between makes and
00:10:05.560 models of different firearms. Mr. Speaker, the first job of the public safety minister is to keep
00:10:11.960 Canadians safe. This public safety minister admitted to not knowing what a firearms license is.
00:10:17.260 He said he doesn't know what the classifications of firearms are, and he couldn't even defend his
00:10:22.500 own liberal government's gun confiscation scheme to his tenant on the most basic questions. And this
00:10:28.400 is the minister responsible for Canada's gun laws. The public safety minister oversees national security,
00:10:34.500 terrorism. What else does he not know about his own file? His incompetence puts Canadian lives at risk.
00:10:40.060 When will the prime minister fire him?
00:10:41.540 And you will not be shocked to hear that they did not answer that question. So that is why we are
00:10:47.920 quickly moving on to something else. And that is your poly of taking a lead pipe to the public safety
00:10:54.460 minister in question period yet again today.
00:11:00.540 Mr. Speaker, I must admit that I've never seen this before. On Monday, a minister said that his own program
00:11:10.000 would not work. He was caught on recording saying that. Then on Tuesday, he announced that he would go
00:11:18.440 forward with the program. He was right. On Monday, it's a waste of $750 million, which will be taken away
00:11:26.000 from our border and police services. It will be used to go after hunters and sports shooters.
00:11:31.840 Will the prime minister sack this minister?
00:11:38.280 The Honourable Minister of Public Safety.
00:11:41.640 Merci pour la question.
00:11:43.000 Thank you for the question.
00:11:44.040 Let me just take this opportunity to talk about the compensation program that we launched today.
00:11:49.840 The pilot will take place in Cape Breton.
00:11:52.100 Yeah, not only was it going to fail in Cape Breton, but man, this guy is slow on his feet. All he does
00:11:58.380 is just keeps reiterating that like, I really believe in this. It's a great program. We need
00:12:04.340 to keep Canadians safe when he there's an entire tape out there of him saying the opposite. And that
00:12:09.560 was candid. That wasn't where he's being paid to say these things. Because when you're in QP,
00:12:14.900 goodness, you're getting the higher ministerial salary, because you play ball with what your government
00:12:20.360 wants. And you are going to say the things that your government approves of. Whereas on tape,
00:12:25.300 a secret taping, you're probably more likely to be saying what you actually think.
00:12:29.220 There are roughly, yes, I want to thank the colleagues from Cape Breton for their support.
00:12:33.820 But I also want to thank the police chief, as well as those who are going to step forward and apply
00:12:39.220 for the rebate, Mr. Speaker. This is smart policy.
00:12:43.560 Those who are going to step forward and take a part in the buyback. There's nobody who's going to be
00:12:48.300 taking part in the buyback. If there are, I believe they said there are 500 guns in Cape Breton
00:12:53.780 that are the ones that the government banned who are going to try and force you to basically sell
00:12:59.200 it back to them. I would be shocked if they're able to get more than 10% of the firearms back.
00:13:05.740 You might get some nervous owners who already have another larger gun collection, and they just don't
00:13:11.140 want the trouble. And they maybe think that this is actually going to be enforced someday. So maybe
00:13:15.620 they'll sell back. But I think that it's going to be like the dental program, where after a year,
00:13:20.520 you're like, oh, yeah, there was like 2% compliance or something like that. 2% of dentists are taking
00:13:26.280 the universal dental care plan insurance.
00:13:28.680 I'm going to step forward and apply for the rebate, Mr. Speaker. This is smart policy. We're moving
00:13:34.500 forward on it. And I fully, fully believe that we will be able to implement this throughout the
00:13:39.280 country over the next year. But he said the exact opposite in the recording, Mr. Speaker.
00:13:50.600 He admitted that confiscating $750 million worth of our arms will not work. And he even made a promise
00:14:02.000 to his renter. He promised to hire 1,000 border agents. Meanwhile, 400% of firearm crimes are from
00:14:12.760 firearms that come up the border, up from the border. He lost 600 dangerous criminals somewhere
00:14:18.540 on our streets. And he doesn't even know how to define a firearm or what's a dangerous firearm.
00:14:23.860 So he's not capable of doing his job. Will the prime minister sack him?
00:14:27.280 Mr. Speaker. I always feel bad for the translators. They have to do this. They have to try and do this
00:14:32.520 as the other person speaking, hearing it and saying it so that when it gets to the next person,
00:14:37.260 they're ready to go. So I always get, they need a lot of credit for what they're doing here.
00:14:43.600 Public safety are not binary choices. You could do both, Mr. Speaker. We can ensure that guns are
00:14:49.160 off our streets by ensuring that people who are able to turn in their firearms are able to get
00:14:55.080 compensated for those prohibited weapons. That is what we're doing with the launch of our gun buyback
00:15:01.100 program today. We will continue to make smart criminal justice reforms to ensure that criminals
00:15:06.480 are off our streets. And bail is tougher for repeat violent offenders, Mr. Speaker.
00:15:11.660 The Honorable Leader of the Office. Oh, and by the way, the Liberals a few days ago voted down a
00:15:17.200 conservative proposal on tightening up sentencing. So even that part's not true. They're going to make some
00:15:22.440 adjustments, but they're not even going to be repealing Bill C-75, the actual thing that allows
00:15:27.620 criminals to get same day automatic bail. I have to admit, Mr. Speaker, in all my years here,
00:15:33.940 I've not seen this before. On Monday, a minister says that his program won't work. On Tuesday, he says
00:15:42.500 he's going ahead with the program, a program that will take $750 million away from frontline border and
00:15:50.160 police services to go after Grandpa Joe's hunting rifle, a waste of money that police say they won't
00:15:57.880 implement and that the minister was caught on recording saying they will never implement. He
00:16:02.480 even promised to bail his tenant out of jail if he breaks the law. When will the minute when will
00:16:07.600 the Prime Minister fire this minister? The Honorable Elite and the Honorable Minister of Public Safety.
00:16:15.320 Goodness, the Liberals are usually sometimes they'll swap someone else in like the House
00:16:20.660 leader to stand up to take the question for someone if they're getting really beaten up on.
00:16:25.420 You almost wonder here if the Liberals are letting Gary go down in flames. Maybe there's some personality
00:16:30.760 conflict behind the scenes where people don't really like them very much. I've seen this happen
00:16:34.880 before where just people don't get along and when you're floundering, you may be part of the same
00:16:39.700 team, but they're not going to throw a lifeline out to you. Let's be clear. If Grandpa Joe is using
00:16:45.200 AR-15s to go hunting, I think we have to have a much more serious conversation about hunting.
00:16:50.760 What we're going forward, Mr. Speaker, are 2,500 prohibited weapons, AR-15s that are killing
00:16:58.100 people around the world, including those in mass casualties in Canada, Mr. Speaker. If the Leader
00:17:05.220 of the Opposition wants to have a real conversation about crime, he also has to have a real conversation
00:17:09.420 about guns, Mr. Speaker. The Honorable Leader of the Opposition.
00:17:15.540 Mr. Speaker, that Minister did have a real conversation about guns. He was caught on tape
00:17:20.420 admitting that his program won't work because it will go after legitimate hunters and sports shooters
00:17:26.920 rather than after the 80 percent of guns that are used in crime, which come illegally across the
00:17:32.900 border. He admits that his $750 million program... Oh, and by the way, even the ones that are used
00:17:38.940 from our side of the border, many of them are still not legally obtained. We're just saying that
00:17:43.400 of the ones that are used, most of them are coming from the southern border when it comes to crimes.
00:17:48.500 That doesn't even mean the rest of the 20 percent are law-abiding gun owners' firearms. It's people
00:17:53.880 maybe with a stolen firearm, people who had gotten it through a port or some other facility if it's a
00:17:59.400 makeshift weapon. That's representing also other portions of that 20 percent. And so when you actually
00:18:05.960 get down to legal firearms being used in the commission of a crime, you're getting down to
00:18:11.120 single percentages. And that story is not enough to justify banning firearms when we're not exactly a
00:18:19.000 country with incredibly high amounts of firearm crime like the U.S. And even the U.S., it's not
00:18:25.840 because they have the Second Amendment and that's why it's happening. It's because they don't enforce
00:18:30.060 the law in many cities. So it doesn't matter what the laws are in those areas because usually they
00:18:34.460 have tight gun control in places like New York City and Chicago, places like New Orleans. But it
00:18:39.660 doesn't matter if you're not enforcing the law. Well, the law is not enforced.
00:18:43.160 It won't work. He offered to bail his tenant out of jail if he breaks the rules. He lost track of 6,000
00:18:49.020 foreign criminals in our country. He admits he doesn't know what a gun license is. More than half
00:18:53.780 of Canadians don't feel safe under his watch. Will the Prime Minister do the only thing that will
00:18:58.280 secure our country and fire this incompetent minister? The Honourable Minister of Public Safety.
00:19:07.740 Mr. Speaker, you can't be serious about public safety if you're not serious about gun...
00:19:12.480 Of course, now they bail out Gary Anasangari. Now we have Gumby himself, Sean Frazier, up to, you know,
00:19:19.960 to point out the flaws in Mr. Paulyev's logic.
00:19:24.220 Mr. Speaker, you can't be serious about public safety if you're not serious about gun crime.
00:19:30.040 My Honourable Colleague on the other side of the House raises concerns about the illegal
00:19:33.580 flow of guns across the border. When he was in government, he made cuts that made it easier
00:19:37.900 for illegal guns to come across the border. Mr. Speaker, we're going to be adding 1,000
00:19:42.180 officers at the border. He also has campaigned on a commitment to legalize assault-style weapons
00:19:47.940 and claims they're used for hunting. There are hunters in my community I'd love to introduce
00:19:51.700 them to. They don't shoot deer with AR-15s.
00:19:54.360 Oh my goodness, it's such a stupid talk. Oh my God, we can't shoot a deer with an AR-15?
00:19:58.880 Well, that's not the only gun you guys banned. You even said you banned 2,500 firearms. And by the
00:20:03.820 way, there still isn't a reason to ban the AR-15. It's a lower caliber rifle. It's semi-automatic.
00:20:11.260 If that is enough in order to ban another firearm, you'd have to ban a lot of firearms because
00:20:17.200 there's a lot of semi-automatic 22 caliber or a little bit larger firearms. It's so stupid.
00:20:24.060 But now I need to move on to something else. And then I actually will be bringing out the
00:20:28.260 whiteboard a little bit later. Or do I do that now? Guys, duty. It's a split decision right now.
00:20:36.300 Okay, we're going to do the whiteboard right now. I brought this up while I was watching that.
00:20:40.820 So I truly do the show live because I just thought of something I want to talk about.
00:20:44.760 So we're bringing the whiteboard in here. So in the midst of all this, as the Liberals are trying
00:20:51.500 to take pot shots at the Conservatives, they really do need to just take the L on this one.
00:20:57.340 Just say, yeah, we messed up. Yeah, we messed up. And if Canadians are not on board with the firearms
00:21:03.660 ban, well, I guess we're not going to force them into something they don't want. I need to show you
00:21:09.180 guys. The crime and public safety question that was recently asked in the Abacus data poll.
00:21:16.120 Who do you trust more on crime and public safety? I'll have you know, in this recent Abacus one,
00:21:21.640 this one was better for the Liberals in previous polls. The previous poll had the Conservatives
00:21:26.220 leading the Liberals by two or three percent. And then actually it flipped back the next week where
00:21:31.220 the Liberals were leading by three percent. This one's a tie. So this is pretty even ground for the
00:21:37.260 Conservatives and the Liberals with 40 percent saying they'd be voting Liberal, 40 percent saying
00:21:41.700 they'd be voting Conservative. So this is not a poll that the makeup of the respondents is favoring
00:21:48.500 one party disproportionately over the other. If anything, all polls tend to lean a little bit more
00:21:53.860 Liberal simply because in terms of the ideology, you also have NDP voters and Bloc voters and Green
00:21:59.860 voters in the mix as well. So Conservatives tend to always be a little bit of the minority.
00:22:04.060 But in this poll, it asks people, who do you trust the most to take on the issue of, let's say,
00:22:13.500 immigration first, just so that we can, you know, give you a little bit of a preamble to how bad
00:22:19.780 these numbers are. On the issue of immigration, which we will be writing a little bit below here,
00:22:26.020 Conservatives currently score 60 percent on immigration, with the Liberals only being trusted
00:22:33.540 by the electorate by only 17 percent. This is immigration. Do you want to know what crime
00:22:41.240 currently is? Because this is the issue that the Liberals are currently trying to combat the
00:22:47.100 Conservatives on. The Liberals similarly just have 17 percent when it comes to how many Canadians out of
00:22:54.780 the entire population of voters that was polled. This is including all the different ideologies. This
00:23:00.140 isn't just saying Conservatives, who do you trust more, and they got 60 to 17. This is all voters,
00:23:05.300 including Bloc, NDP, Green. In fact, I think on the immigration issue, what did the NDP get?
00:23:13.960 NDP on this one got a whopping 4 percent. Not sure if that's on screen. Yes, it is. There you go.
00:23:21.620 But let's get back up to crime and public safety. On this issue, the NDP get a big old 3. 3 percent of
00:23:32.040 the electorate trust them the most on this particular issue. And the Conservatives are trusted by 66 percent
00:23:42.120 of voters. Now, what lead is that over the Liberals? It's not quite 50, so I guess the Liberals ended up
00:23:50.580 holding back the Conservatives there. But this is a plus 49 percent lead for the Conservatives on this
00:24:00.900 particular issue. I think the Liberals could just concede on this one. They're not going to win,
00:24:08.900 and nor is their confiscation of legally held weapons in Cape Breton going to be pushing them
00:24:14.340 back up the rankings on this particular issue. On the border, the Conservatives are winning,
00:24:19.440 so stop marketing the fact that you might add a thousand border security agents. One, you haven't
00:24:23.600 done it yet. And two, goodness, they're still winning on this because they're tougher on the border than
00:24:28.280 you guys are. And then on crime and public safety, it's nobody cares about the gun bans. They just
00:24:33.960 care, do I feel safe going to work? They don't care, well, yeah, I did get chased down by a man with a
00:24:39.680 syringe on a train platform, but, well, he wasn't carrying a gun. And so I guess I got to give the
00:24:45.480 Liberals credit on that. Even though the Liberals have been so soft on crime, there is more gun violence
00:24:50.420 in the country because of them. But now I want to move over to one more video, and then we will be
00:24:56.960 done for this episode. It is the CBC News panel, the Power and Politics panel, specifically on Gary
00:25:04.680 Amasangri. And I want to highlight what the Liberal on the show said, because I find what she said is
00:25:12.400 almost the biggest indictment of him. She was trying to be supportive. She was trying to say
00:25:16.440 nice things, trying to bail him out, but did not, let's say, do the best job that she could have.
00:25:23.420 So here we go.
00:25:24.320 Speaking it, not necessarily great tenant relations there, but seriously, about the content of the
00:25:31.680 conversation that was recorded, I mean, it's not a great look if you're the minister who has to sell
00:25:36.120 this gun buyback program, which, if we're to believe the recording, will be announced tomorrow.
00:25:40.920 Now he's on tape kind of undermining the whole thing. Not very helpful, is it?
00:25:46.540 Yeah, I mean, I think, and it's not a song great, you know, I think naivete, he has put himself in an
00:25:52.680 awkward situation. I think he, he said he meant known this person for like several years, I believe
00:25:57.580 it was 16 years. He's known this tenant clearly, but didn't think he'd be recorded. Now, what I think
00:26:03.020 happened is that he didn't realize he'd be unrecorded. It sounds...
00:26:05.920 Can we use the proper language here? He didn't think he'd get caught. That's what happened.
00:26:10.840 The whole point she is describing naivete in this situation would be not playing politics. Oh,
00:26:16.700 just some guy I knew. He's been around for, you know, we've known each other for eight years.
00:26:20.760 I can just tell you what I think. What do you think he was, he was going to give the lie answer
00:26:25.140 to his tenant, and then he was going to say the truth in person? That's not how it usually works.
00:26:30.720 If you say one thing in public and one thing behind the scenes, typically the behind the
00:26:34.480 scenes thing is going to be the truth.
00:26:35.960 I only did when I heard some of the recording that it wasn't going well, the conversation,
00:26:39.860 I mean, he mentioned the tenant that he has ARs, and I think he said what he needs to say
00:26:44.740 to get out of a tricky situation. So not great, but I don't think it changes anything about the
00:26:50.720 minister himself. I mean, I've known Minister Nansangri for many years. I've door knocked with
00:26:54.260 him. He's doing what minister is supposed to, which is having difficult conversations with people
00:26:58.020 who may feel differently about how you want to do policy, and he shouldn't be afraid in
00:27:02.200 generally about how, about having those conversations we need to have, like.
00:27:06.440 Who would ever hire this woman to be like a campaign manager again, if she's effectively
00:27:10.700 just admitted, well, you know, lying is part of the job. Sometimes you go to a door and you
00:27:14.420 just tell the person what they want to hear, and then you just go do whatever you're going
00:27:17.440 to do. When you're basically saying that corruption is okay, ideological corruption, lying to the
00:27:23.280 public is okay based on the circumstances, step away from the microphone.
00:27:28.020 Politicians who are open to having conversations, even with those who disagree with him.
00:27:32.200 So I don't think it looks good for him. I don't think it changes the integrity of the minister
00:27:35.780 or the work he's doing on this, and I think he has the full confidence of the prime minister.
00:27:39.980 Oh, it doesn't hurt him. He has full confidence of the prime minister going around either lying
00:27:43.900 to people or telling the truth about the program sucking. Full, full, full trust. Full trust
00:27:50.260 in the literal admitted liar or, you know, liar either in person or behind the scenes.
00:27:57.020 Kate, in the recording, the minister says the police don't have the resources to enforce
00:28:01.800 the gun buyback program in its entirety as it was kind of designed. And as I told you
00:28:06.360 in the introduction there, that they're really pressing ahead with it because of electoral
00:28:09.960 considerations that the Quebec caucus and others in the province of Quebec are pushing
00:28:14.320 for this. What's your take on this recording?
00:28:16.140 There's two issues here. There's the minister's conduct, and then there's the gun buyback program
00:28:23.400 and the policy. On the minister's conduct, it's hard to claim political novice and amateur
00:28:28.620 when he's been a sitting MP, I believe, since 2015. He was also the justice minister,
00:28:33.980 I believe also the crown indigenous minister at one point in time, and is now serving in this
00:28:38.480 cabinet. There's getting out of a sticky conversation, and there's undermining your entire
00:28:42.760 government's, a core plank of your government's tough on crime legislation. So he should absolutely
00:28:49.660 have known better in the course of that conversation. And unfortunately for the minister,
00:28:54.700 it's not his first lapse in judgment. So we will see if there's any kind of consequences for that.
00:29:01.400 Perhaps more gravely, he has undermined a very core pillar of the government's justice strategy
00:29:07.380 and approach. He's admitting what many have already known for some time, that the gun buyback program
00:29:12.720 will have precisely zero effect on gun violence in this country. And now it's going to be difficult
00:29:19.260 for Canadians to take that program seriously and the aims of that seriously when the minister is out
00:29:23.780 there undercutting his government's very policy, the one that he's supposed to be promoting himself.
00:29:27.980 And see, that is the more fair take on this panel here. We don't need to listen to the whole thing.
00:29:32.420 But yeah, that's pretty much it. The liberals are kind of damned if they do, damned if they don't
00:29:37.960 at this point, because, well, already a lot of Canadians didn't like the gun buyback program.
00:29:43.080 They didn't like the gun bans. But even then, now those who were still in favor of it, mostly around
00:29:48.700 sort of like the city urban areas, even they are basically being told by the minister himself,
00:29:54.720 you know, it's really not a good program. This isn't going to be doing anything. Obviously,
00:29:58.560 the real thing we should be doing to crack down on crime is locking up criminals, which is right.
00:30:04.200 There is no way of getting to the root causes of crime. Either you enforce the law or you don't
00:30:09.840 enforce the law. There's no cute end run you can do by going to legal gun owners and trying to take
00:30:15.080 their guns away to solve crime. There is this great saying I know from one of my favorite YouTubers,
00:30:21.540 Actual Justice Warrior, where whenever people start talking about root causes of crime,
00:30:25.740 he always goes on a rant about how we need to get a we need to get a height and weight on poverty so
00:30:32.260 we can go and arrest poverty instead of the man who's actually knocking over the liquor store.
00:30:37.420 Criminals are not just Aladdin running around stealing bread for hungry children. They're criminals
00:30:42.520 and they should be put in prison. And it's nice to know that the public safety minister sort of
00:30:47.120 understands this, but he's a big enough public political hack. He's not going to do anything
00:30:51.320 with that more coherent worldview that he seems to have behind the scenes. But yeah, so that should
00:30:58.720 be it for this video, guys. I think with the polling, we are going to see a slippage for the
00:31:04.380 liberals again. Now, none of these are death blows. Even Aircanda wasn't a death blow. The bad,
00:31:10.420 the bad, like messaging and negotiating on the trade deal, that's not a death blow for the liberals.
00:31:17.320 But a government can also go down with a thousand cuts. And I think right now, the trade, the budget,
00:31:25.120 the deficit, this gun fiasco, and a lot of other stuff is just creating the impression that Mark
00:31:31.560 Carney isn't actually as good as he sold himself as, which is true. He really isn't. And I think even
00:31:37.700 if you are an elbows up liberal voter, obviously, there are the Laura Babcock hardcores who are never
00:31:42.960 going to turn on the party. But for those who may be switched from conservative to liberal or don't
00:31:47.620 typically vote and then came out and voted liberal, if you're watching the news these days, even if
00:31:52.880 you're watching the CBC just on that panel alone, you will be getting the impression that at very least
00:31:58.260 the people that Mark Carney's surrounding himself with are not particularly competent. And then we
00:32:03.700 know in the next year, we may have up to four or five liberal MPs leaving the party, resigning
00:32:09.920 their seats to go do something else, whether it's Nate Erskine-Smith running for Ontario liberal
00:32:15.340 leadership, or Chrystia Freeland seemingly just being sick of Mark Carney and not wanting to be
00:32:20.080 in cabinet anymore, as well as some other people as well. But anyways, so with that being said,
00:32:26.420 thank you guys for watching. Like, share, subscribe, do all that fantastic stuff, and I will see you all
00:32:32.480 next time.