The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - June 20, 2025


Liberals pus INSANE ban on gas cars! - Carney EV investments


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Wyatt Claypool talks about the proposed ban on gas-powered cars in Canada by the year 2035, and why he thinks it's a good idea. He also talks about why the Prime Minister is so committed to it, and what it means for the auto sector.

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00:00:00.040 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here. You may have not been fully aware of the Liberal government
00:00:06.100 attempting to ban gas-powered cars by the year 2035. I guess you'd be able to keep any gas-powered
00:00:14.380 vehicles that you had prior to that date, but you wouldn't be able to purchase them after that.
00:00:20.020 It sounds hyperbolic, like something their opposition would have just made up based on a
00:00:25.120 very skewed reading of some of their policies, but this is something that you can literally find
00:00:30.660 on the Liberal Party's website. Check this out. A cleaner, greener future for everyone. 100%
00:00:38.980 zero emissions car sales by 2035. Almost a quarter of our emissions come from the transportation
00:00:46.000 sector, and half of these emissions come from cars and trucks that get Canadians around every day.
00:00:51.440 It's almost like that last little bit of that sentence that get Canadians around every day
00:00:57.120 is very key here. Maybe don't screw with something that people need to survive. They need to be able
00:01:03.000 to get around in an efficient manner. Maybe let's not mess with that. But they go on to say,
00:01:09.020 we know action is needed to reduce pollution from transportation. That's why we've launched the IZEV
00:01:16.300 program in 2019 to provide purchase rebates up to $5,000 to Canadians who want to get behind
00:01:22.440 the wheel of an electric vehicle. This is also why I'm highly skeptical of the actual profitability of
00:01:29.620 the EV industry. That includes all like Stellantis, Tesla, all the car companies that are starting to roll
00:01:37.440 out pure EV lines. How much is it that people actually really like the cars? And I know people
00:01:43.500 who really do like the cars. But how much of it is the fact there's a subsidy available so you're
00:01:49.000 willing to drive the car because you got $5,000 back that you wouldn't have gotten on a gas-powered
00:01:55.420 vehicle? Even if you may even prefer a gas-powered vehicle, but you live in an urban area and it doesn't,
00:02:00.580 it's no skin off your nose. It's just whoever gets you the better deal and maybe getting $5,000 off
00:02:05.660 is the better deal. But we don't need to look at the Liberal website anymore. Now I just want to jump
00:02:10.960 over to what's being said in the House of Commons because the Conservatives have seized on this issue.
00:02:16.620 This is going to be a big thing for them and I think it is a good issue because the Liberals do not
00:02:21.560 seem to be willing to back off it right now. Carney in effect has recommitted to it. Obviously he did,
00:02:28.300 he ran on it, but even with the Conservatives' recent push, they are not backing off.
00:02:32.600 The opposition. You don't have to allow Canadians to buy one type of vehicle by banning their ability
00:02:40.940 to buy the ones that they actually want. You know, this is phrasing a lot of questions. Canadians,
00:02:48.040 autoworkers, 4GM, they all don't want the EV mandate, but the Prime Minister's intent on pushing
00:02:53.580 it through. Why? Well, right before becoming Prime Minister, he was chair of Brookfield and he advocated
00:02:59.120 for a ban on gas-powered cars. Brookfield is heavily invested in the EV supply chain. Yet this Prime
00:03:05.020 Minister refuses to reveal his financial interests or self-admitted conflicts. Isn't it true that this
00:03:09.700 isn't about the environment, this is about the bottom line for Brookfield?
00:03:13.960 Now, honestly, I believe most of the reason behind this proposed ban is ideological. I think it just
00:03:21.460 happens to coincide with a lot of other interests Carney may have as to why he is more committed to this
00:03:27.100 than a normal liberal policy, but they were in favor of this well before Carney ever came around.
00:03:35.380 The Honorable Minister for Artificial Intelligence.
00:03:39.040 We're in a trade war launched by the United States.
00:03:41.660 Oh my goodness, why would you have Evan Solomon get up and answer this question?
00:03:45.620 He's in a fake ministry about artificial intelligence.
00:03:50.100 We're in a trade war launched by the United States that's targeting our auto workers
00:03:54.880 and our auto sector. Make no mistake, we will fight for every job and every worker.
00:04:00.340 We have invested in the auto sector, including the EV sector, to build good jobs in places like St.
00:04:06.420 Thomas, where the Amino Corp is employing people. This government will always invest in workers 0.92
00:04:13.000 and make sure that the auto industry is growing, resilient, and successful.
00:04:20.500 You think as a former TV producer, TV show host, Evan Solomon would be a little more steady than that,
00:04:28.720 but how absurd is it to go out there and in response to the fact that your party ran on
00:04:35.200 and is going to try and implement a gas-powered car ban by the year 2035 that you get up and say,
00:04:41.660 we've been very supportive of the auto sector. Have you? Because you're proposing getting rid of
00:04:48.580 most of the auto sector in Canada in favor of the EV sector, which only survives because of massive
00:04:55.560 direct subsidies to the companies, as well as indirect subsidies through tax rebates for people
00:05:02.080 purchasing the vehicles. This is absolutely just contradictory, but it's the space the liberal
00:05:09.300 government lives in. Now, the sad thing is that I don't think a lot of people are going to be made
00:05:14.080 aware of this contradiction. Again, the liberal media is going to cover what they want, and they
00:05:19.880 can downplay the story. They naturally have to kind of cover it a little bit, but not in the thorough
00:05:25.220 way that we kind of need in order for people to understand that these people pretending to protect
00:05:31.600 our economy from the United States are also placing bets against it. And by the way, you want to save the
00:05:37.380 auto sector? Cut taxes, cut regulations, make it easier to produce cars. The only reason many sectors
00:05:44.920 in Canada beg for subsidies is because they realize that begging for tax cuts wasn't working, so maybe
00:05:52.380 the government will give them cash after taxing them rather than the other way around, because the
00:05:58.300 liberals are ideologically big government, and so they don't want to back off of the high tax rates
00:06:04.780 because that's part of their marketing, that we are hard on the billionaires and millionaires and
00:06:10.580 whatnot, not to the extent like the NDP are, but they very much try and run anti-corporate, even though
00:06:17.480 you could say it's one of the most corporate parties on the planet. Large corporations do very well under
00:06:22.660 the liberals, not as well as they would do under conservatives, but large corporations actually are
00:06:27.240 able to out-compete smaller businesses because of the sheer amount of regulations and taxes.
00:06:32.440 It's this kind of backwards way where the liberals, by opening fire on all industry, end up benefiting
00:06:38.300 the large corporations in the long run because their smaller competition can't hack it the way
00:06:43.080 their larger competition can, and so they end up going bankrupt and the large ones end up consuming
00:06:47.780 the small ones. But here is Glenn Mott saying, the liberals still plan to ban gas-powered vehicles by
00:06:54.940 2035, forcing you to buy electric. And so what the conservatives did really smartly here is that the liberals can
00:07:02.040 pretend, oh, no, you guys are panicking. That's, you know, we're wanting more Canadians to have any
00:07:07.760 options they want on what vehicles they want to drive, but, you know, the world's moving towards
00:07:12.620 like, you know, EVs, and by 2035, we will naturally be there from, you know, the moves in the market.
00:07:19.380 You'll get a lot of people saying that, especially liberal defenders in the media. They'll say, this is
00:07:23.700 already where the world's going. Whether we mandate a ban or not, gas-powered vehicles are going away.
00:07:29.780 So the conservatives put it to a vote. So Glenn Mott goes on to say,
00:07:34.240 conservatives tried to stop the ban, but the liberals, NDP, and bloc voted down our motion.
00:07:38.720 These parties just voted to raise car prices, send Canadians auto jobs to the U.S., and limit our
00:07:43.540 freedom to choose. Canadians deserve better. And I like the freedom to choose element here.
00:07:48.740 I think, and it's an old Milton Friedman documentary title, freedom to choose, they should run on,
00:07:55.720 it was like a series on television, freedom to choose. The conservatives should run on a big vision
00:07:59.820 that they should just steal the name from Milton Friedman. Just call it freedom to choose. That
00:08:04.680 is what the conservatives are running on for their economic agenda. So this vote went down 141 yay
00:08:13.120 to 194 nay. And when you went through it, it was basically conservatives voted yay, and then liberals
00:08:22.260 and everyone else voted nay with the liberals. There was a few people who didn't vote, but it's because
00:08:27.400 they have the system where if one person's on vacation from one side, someone else will go on
00:08:30.940 vacation from the other side to keep it balanced. But yeah, that was telling, and that is something
00:08:35.000 that the conservatives are going to be able to hit the liberals on in the long run.
00:08:39.440 And then I just want to highlight another thing. And that is the NDP's insane position on this
00:08:47.560 particular piece of legislation. So we had the NDP needing to outdo the liberals had to stand up
00:08:56.500 and make their own insane demand on environmental policy.
00:09:01.040 I'm honored to rise today to introduce the National Renewable Energy Strategy Act. I thank my colleague
00:09:07.420 from Rosemont La Petit Patrie for seconding this legislation and all his work to protect our
00:09:12.640 environment. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has been clear that we must cut global
00:09:18.320 greenhouse gas emissions in half by 2030 and reach net zero by 2050 to avert catastrophic global climate
00:09:27.000 change.
00:09:27.420 Sir, why is catastrophic things not happening now while we're producing a lot of emissions?
00:09:32.760 Why do we have to be at net zero to avoid them? Wouldn't we just need to be less? Or even if we
00:09:39.760 went to the emissions levels of the 1930s, that would still be too much? This is always the thing. It's
00:09:44.880 always this maximalist position that it has to be all or nothing. That, you know, either we do nothing
00:09:51.100 or we go to net zero. It's frankly ridiculous.
00:09:54.100 The time for action is now. That means implementing solutions for clean energy and transitioning away
00:10:01.720 from fossil fuels. While we do this, we must ensure that workers are not left behind. Jobs in Canada's
00:10:08.880 clean energy sector are projected to grow by nearly 50% by 2030.
00:10:13.160 Let me guess, are subsidies going to be going up by about that much? Because that's the only reason
00:10:19.400 that the green energy sector is growing is because subsidies are growing.
00:10:22.460 And the industry's GDP contribution is on track to reach $100 billion by the end of this decade.
00:10:29.360 This legislation would accelerate our transition to a clean energy future by requiring that the
00:10:35.540 Minister of Natural Resources develop and implement a national strategy to ensure 100% of electricity
00:10:42.660 generated in Canada comes from renewable energy sources by 2030.
00:10:48.400 Do you know what the problem with this is? And it's the same problem with the EV mandate. Both of
00:10:53.340 them are bad. Actually, before I get to that, I do want to just highlight another conservative
00:10:57.020 speaking out on this, just so you can kind of see like the fulsome amount of voices. Here's one of
00:11:01.880 my favorite MPs, Arnold Veerson, speaking out against it. An MP who represents a rural Alberta
00:11:07.220 riding, and I think that is very relevant to this topic.
00:11:10.100 Mr. Westlock. Mr. Speaker, it's never been more difficult for V8 truck owners in this country.
00:11:15.840 After years of Liberal mismanagement, they've created hardships for farmers, families, and forestry
00:11:20.140 workers in northern Alberta. Now this Liberal government plans to ban gas-powered vehicles and
00:11:25.340 force Canadians to drive electric vehicles. Just one more example of Ottawa knows best. 0.94
00:11:29.920 Well, Mr. Speaker, let me tell you what Albertans and rural Canadians know. The farmer hauling his
00:11:34.260 livestock can't wait for hours to recharge during a trip. The hunter who needs to bring home his moose,
00:11:39.800 can't stick it in the back of a Prius. And when it's minus 40 out, oil and gas workers can't rely on EVs
00:11:45.620 to haul heavy equipment needed to keep the heat on for the rest of the country. Even in Quebec, Mr. Speaker,
00:11:51.320 the number one selling vehicle is the gas-powered F-Series pickup.
00:11:55.320 I like how he had to say even in Quebec because of the reputation, but yeah.
00:11:59.400 In a strong and free Canada, Canadians must have the choice to drive a vehicle that meets their needs
00:12:04.120 at a price that they can afford. It's time to axe the ban on electric-powered vehicles.
00:12:09.940 Now I just want to quickly jump over now to a statement that someone I like in the media made,
00:12:18.520 one opinion commentator writer, whatever he would just classify himself as. But I think Tristan Hopper
00:12:25.720 had a very good perspective on this. That sums up what I think quite well too.
00:12:29.220 Tristan Hopper from the National Post says,
00:12:32.320 the singular thing turning me against EVs is that they will be dependent on an increasingly
00:12:37.440 overloaded grid that will not, under any circumstances, be able to power an electrified
00:12:42.640 Canadian vehicle fleet. If you want commuting to be as broken as accessing healthcare, buy an EV.
00:12:50.940 And I like how he's taken this on, not from the perspective that it's turned him against an EV
00:12:55.360 ban or a gas powered ban. This is why EVs are bad in general. And I would agree. We were experiencing
00:13:03.480 a couple of years ago in Alberta in 2023, we almost had the grid fail in Calgary multiple times because
00:13:12.460 when we transitioned away from coal, which is actually a problem, a mistake by the UCP,
00:13:18.520 the NDP started the coal phase out in 2015 or 2016. And then the UCP kept it going. I think they
00:13:25.680 should have scrapped that. When we transitioned away from coal, we started investing more in solar
00:13:31.620 and wind. And so when those failed, when it's negative 40 outside, we were left without coal and
00:13:39.200 without green energy. And now we had to rely on natural gas trying to actually, you know, power the
00:13:45.000 entire grid. And so we all had to start unplugging stuff and turning off the lights so that everyone
00:13:50.520 had enough energy to actually keep the lights on. If everyone was using energy at their normal
00:13:56.220 capacity, things would have started failing. So that is a good point by Tristan. This is not
00:14:01.220 a problem just of the bans. It's a problem of the whole concept of EVs in general. Tristan Hopper says
00:14:07.800 at the precise moment that the government is turning everything under its purview to S,
00:14:12.520 they're demanding unprecedented control over housing and transportation.
00:14:17.360 At the electrification quotas, the federal government is demanding they should be green
00:14:21.460 lighting a new hydro dam or nuclear plant basically every month. But they're not. The plan
00:14:26.640 as it stands is for millions of subsidized cars nobody can drive unless they're Teslas or Chinese 1.00
00:14:32.620 made or whatever other kind of EVs the government decided you shouldn't have. I say this as someone
00:14:37.580 whose dream car remains the IMEIV. So yeah, some electric vehicle. And I even mentioned and this
00:14:45.260 is the whole freedom to choose element of all this. Know what car you should be able to drive? The car
00:14:51.500 you want to drive. Not subsidized, not with a big tax credit. Whatever car that you in your financial
00:14:59.380 position and where you live would dictate that you should get, you should go get that one. And with
00:15:06.220 energy sources, do you know what energy I'm in favor of? I'm in favor of electricity. I'm in favor
00:15:12.780 of natural gas. I'm in favor of gasoline. I'm in favor of coal. I'm in favor of wood. Use whatever
00:15:19.900 you want to use. You have the freedom to choose. In fact, do you know what's actually reduced emissions
00:15:26.960 over time more than anything else? No government mandates, no scolding remarks from the United
00:15:33.300 Nations. It's been capitalism because capitalism enables people or basically empowers people to
00:15:40.820 try and get the most value, the most stuff for the least amount of money. And that means that people
00:15:47.060 over time have bought cars that use the same size fuel tank to go farther. And so emissions have been
00:15:54.900 going down over time. And you know what then happened? Well, the liberals implement the carbon
00:16:00.300 tax and they do other sorts of environmental regulations, bans, coal phase outs. And then
00:16:06.420 they're like, look, emissions have gone down since we did that. And you look at the overall like
00:16:11.420 timeline of the chart. And in fact, it was going down at a rapid speed. And then when the government
00:16:16.660 started getting involved, things actually slowed down more because higher taxes and higher regulations
00:16:22.100 means that people have stayed using higher emission vehicles because everything costs so much,
00:16:28.220 you can't buy the more efficient truck anymore. You have to wait far longer before you upgrade from
00:16:33.480 what you bought in 2005 to a newer model. And you're probably going to have to buy something used
00:16:38.420 where if everything was much cheaper, you actually might buy a new vehicle right now that has like,
00:16:44.820 you know, 60% of the emissions of your last vehicle. But of course, government got in the way.
00:16:50.080 This is like what happened in the United States. Again, it's interesting that I was talking about
00:16:55.740 Milton Friedman because here's an example he used a lot. In the United States, when Ralph Nader was
00:17:00.820 going after, was it like the Ford Pinto or was like the, you know, some older car for being dangerous,
00:17:07.840 they found out that by then putting in a bunch of like restriction safety regulations to mandate seat
00:17:14.660 belts and, and in like a driver's side and passenger side, airbags and other things on the car, you know,
00:17:21.180 crump, like bumpers that crumpled in to avoid, you know, fatalities. By implementing all that stuff,
00:17:27.140 all these safety features that we take for granted today is standard. At the time, they were expensive
00:17:31.960 to implement. So what happened was people, because of the regulations Ralph Nader had championed,
00:17:37.880 people drove around their T-Birds longer, people drove around the dangerous vehicles causing deaths
00:17:45.500 longer, because to buy the newer, more safer vehicle, it went from something that was obtainable
00:17:52.840 within a couple of years to something that you couldn't do for seven years because taxes and
00:17:56.600 regulations pumped up the price of those cars to purchase. That's the problem, that when you try and
00:18:03.800 get people to do what you consider to be the right thing, oftentimes you make it more difficult to do
00:18:09.220 the right thing rather than, so if your goal is to lower emissions, let people buy more efficient,
00:18:15.020 cheaper vehicles. Don't make them buy the EV. One, there's the power grid problems, but then there's
00:18:19.940 also the fact that EVs cost more than maybe buying a used car that has a more fuel efficient engine than
00:18:26.520 what the person's been driving around since 2002. But maybe I'm just being simplistic. Anyways,
00:18:33.000 that should be it for me today, guys, at least in this video. I'm actually, when you're watching
00:18:39.280 this, on a kind of mini vacation, and so a lot of the stuff I've been pre-filming, but it's actually
00:18:44.600 great. So much has been going on. I've been having a lot of topics to discuss. I probably have another
00:18:49.540 thing I need to film today, too. I basically filmed four things today. So, you know, that's how the
00:18:54.700 sausage is made sometimes when it comes to YouTube. I didn't want to have to haul all my equipment with me
00:18:59.260 where I was going. But tons of big issues going on in Parliament today, all coming to a close tomorrow,
00:19:05.600 which is all very hypocritical. Apparently, we needed to get a bunch of stuff done in Parliament,
00:19:10.380 but now Mark Carney wants us all to go on a three-month vacation, even though he's the man with
00:19:15.400 the plan and we're in a crisis. Whatever. Whatever. Okay. Well, that's it for me today, guys.
00:19:21.760 Like, share, subscribe, do all that great stuff. See you guys later.