00:02:15.900I don't think Jamil did anything wrong.
00:02:17.760Even if he did do something wrong, we don't start splitting the party just because people in the media are murmuring about how what Jamil Giovanni is doing is very unpopular.
00:02:26.880Of course they're going to tell you it's unpopular.
00:02:28.760Greg McKecker in here is the type of guy to tell you it's unpopular.
00:02:31.600But he's also the guy who's lying through his teeth.
00:02:34.480So the other claim he made there is that Pierre Polyev and the Conservative Party, like, you know, inner circle, is keeping MPs off of this program, off of the CBC.
00:02:46.000I don't know if he means the CBC in general or power in politics, but this fact check goes, like, this basically fact check works regardless.
00:02:54.880So one of the first people to react to this story was Pierre Polyev's own communications director for his office, Katie Merrifield, who says, we put our Conservative MPs on all the political panels regularly.
00:03:09.380And I want to jump now to somebody who then went into detail about how much of a lie it was.
00:03:15.480Here we have Cole Hogan, who's also a Conservative commentator on CPAC.
00:03:22.380And he says, in the last three weeks, I've seen the following Conservative Party MPs on CBC alone, or I've seen these CBC MPs on CBC alone.
00:03:33.600Chauvelin Majumdar, Michelle Rempel, Adam Chambers, Scott Aitchison, Frank Caputo.
00:03:38.780And then he is reacting, in fact, to another CBC contributor who is also putting out this lie that somehow the Conservative Party is being overly controlling with its MPs' media appearances.
00:03:51.980I think back in the last election, the Conservatives were kind of avoiding the CBC for a bit.
00:03:57.380But that wasn't, that's not a recent phenomenon.
00:04:00.440It wasn't like they weren't going on the CBC.
00:04:02.440They were just kind of ignoring the CBC when they obviously were trying to write attack articles on them.
00:04:07.500But here is this clip from Rosemary Barton's show.
00:04:10.860We have a bunch of MPs who are restless, who have been sitting on the opposition benches for a really long time.
00:04:18.340And it was one thing to take kind of the heavy-handed approach of the leader when he was plus 25 points in the polls.
00:04:25.660But now he is dragging the party down with him.
00:05:06.020And these MPs are, you know, playing by the rules, asking the leader if they can go on Power and Politics, another TV program, and talk to the media.
00:05:17.880And a little bit of that loosened after the election, but not really that much.
00:05:23.360And so they feel like they don't have a voice.
00:05:25.680They don't support the direction of the party.
00:05:27.320They don't understand what their leader is doing.
00:05:28.860He seems to be more focused on, like, the Twitter influencers than he is on the constituents they hear about at the door.
00:05:35.620And in some cases, and we've seen with some of the floor crossers, they're more likely to win their seats as liberals.
00:05:41.760So there's a lot of stuff happening in the mix that is convincing people that, you know, why are they sticking with Pierre Proliev when they have the possibility of influencing things in a government that they don't disagree with?
00:05:52.820And this is not, by the way, this is not like a Liberal Party communications official.
00:06:05.040And by the way, again, someone repeating the lie that Conservative MPs are not allowed to go on to Power and Politics or the CBC in general.
00:10:16.720I'm not even calling for floor crossing to be made illegal.
00:10:19.720You just can't make it illegal because guess what?
00:10:22.440A conservative, if they want to cross the floor, could just sit as an independent and then vote with the Liberals.
00:10:27.620And you could say, well, then there should be a by-election anyways as well.
00:10:30.900Well, then they could just sit as a conservative and just vote with the Liberals.
00:10:34.300And I've actually had people say, well, if you get kicked out by the Conservative Party, there should be a by-election.
00:10:39.400I'm like, guys, you realize the amount of corruption that would cause in all of the parties that if you kick an MP out, immediately a by-election is called and you can replace him.
00:10:49.460We cannot have parties having more power in this country.
00:10:52.820If anything, the problem with Canadian politics is parties are often too powerful and we need more individuals.
00:10:59.120Matt Jenneru and Chris Dontremont and Michael Ma are kind of products of the overly cautious party cultures,
00:11:05.520where you have people who don't really believe in much of anything sitting as members of parliament for certain parties.
00:11:12.140And because they're in politics for very shallow reasons and don't believe in anything that deeply,
00:11:17.100they're far more likely to just get up and walk away because why are they here sitting as a conservative in the first place?