The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - December 26, 2023


Liberals resign as party claims morale is high

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Justin Trudeau Caitlin Bennett Mark Gerritsen Erin O'Toole Anthony Roda Lloyd Longfield Emmanuel Dubois Jagmeet Singh Pierre Poilievre Omar Al-Gabra Pierre Pauly Ron Liepert John McKay Alan Reyes Wayne Long Cody Bloys
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A report from the Globe and Mail quotes a bunch of Liberal MPs talking about how great it is to be a Liberal Party right now. It's a bit of an ironic piece, but it's not really an article, it's a report.

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00:00:00.000 You can't happy talk your way through a disaster. Yet the Liberal Party of Canada seems convinced that if they keep saying that they're extremely confident in their chance of winning the 2025 election and just how much Canadians love their agenda, then it will all come true.
00:00:13.780 In reality, when you look at the national polling, the Conservatives, even in the worst polls for them, are ahead of the Liberals anywhere from 10 to 18 points. Justin Trudeau is underwater when it comes to his personal popularity. Even 37% of 2021 Liberal Party voters do not want him running again to be the Prime Minister.
00:00:32.980 Despite this, for some reason, the Liberals have settled on the tactic of just simply saying that they're doing great and not actually fixing any of the policy-created issues that they've caused in Canada.
00:00:44.600 I want to talk about today this very ironic article from the Globe and Mail. Not the Globe and Mail's fault. It's just a basic report on what a bunch of the Liberal Party MPs are saying.
00:00:56.380 And what they're doing is just saying just how great it is to be the Liberal Party right now.
00:01:01.760 Obviously, they are speaking in the context that they know that they're down in the polls, but this just happy talking their way into victory is the way that the Liberals think that they're going to win the next election.
00:01:12.640 Just say that I think that Canadians really get us, and they're just following the Conservatives out there for a time, but they will return to us because they can never actually name anything that they're doing right that would bring people back.
00:01:26.200 They're just simply asserting it because if you're a Liberal MP at this point, there's nothing you can do.
00:01:30.960 Justin Trudeau is not going to fix any of the actual problems, so you can't promise anything.
00:01:34.980 All you can just simply say is, well, everything's great.
00:01:38.260 You can just pretend that everything's much better than it actually is.
00:01:41.540 Anyways, I want to get into reading little sections of this article because they quote a lot of Liberal MPs, and it gets very ironic very quickly.
00:01:49.140 So here we have, obviously, this article starts off saying, despite a rough 2023, they say the mood among Liberals is better than just a few months ago, in part because the party believes it still has time to turn things around, but also because they are ending the year with what they believe is a sharper message to counter the leading Conservatives.
00:02:09.180 And this is what Liberal MP John McKay says, there's no question, it's a tough being a Liberal MP these days, but in an ironic way, pure poly of has done for the Liberals what the party couldn't do for itself, giving an spirit de coup and a rationale to fight the next election.
00:02:23.660 Now, that's not something you actually want to admit.
00:02:26.960 Right there, he's basically just said that the party has nothing, we have no way of marketing ourselves, and the only thing we possibly could have is that pure poly of has become such a big figure that maybe we can turn him into an election issue, and to give a reason for voters to vote for us to avoid pure poly of.
00:02:46.340 The problem with that is that pure poly of is actually decently popular right now.
00:02:49.960 He has high name recognition.
00:02:51.000 There's a reason that when he was elected in the Conservative Party leadership in 2022, it was the biggest voting turnout for a leadership race in Canadian history.
00:02:59.460 This is not something you want to bank on that pure poly of somehow going to fumble, and then hand the ball back to Justin Trudeau.
00:03:05.600 Justin Trudeau could barely beat Aaron O'Toole, and you know, I think Jagmeet Singh, if he was in charge of the Liberal Party, despite almost having no political skills at all, might have been able to beat Aaron O'Toole, because at least he's not as deeply unlikable and nasty as Trudeau is.
00:03:19.520 Quite deeply unlikable and nasty, but not as bad.
00:03:23.440 But anyways, I want to get back to the article, because the next person they quote is very funny on why she would even bother handing a quote over for this article.
00:03:31.260 So when you – I just want to scroll down here for a bit.
00:03:33.740 So this is a quote from another Liberal MP.
00:03:37.400 It says,
00:03:37.560 It brought everyone together, you know, we're all on the same page as to what's worth fighting for, said Carol Bennett, who recently retired as the Liberal MP for Toronto St. Paul after 26 years.
00:03:49.000 And they're talking about the Liberals fighting pure poly of the Conservatives on different pieces of legislation in Parliament, and how I guess it's revitalized them.
00:03:57.380 And look, we have things to fight for.
00:03:59.480 We're fighting for Ukraine and for, you know, like after-school lunch programs and whatnot.
00:04:03.680 Nothing that the Conservative Party actually opposed.
00:04:06.200 They simply held up a bunch of votes in Parliament trying to get the Liberals to pause the carbon tax.
00:04:11.160 And now the Liberals are pretending that because they were delaying those votes, they now oppose them.
00:04:15.400 Or because the Conservative Party voted against certain measures where the Liberals baked in a bunch of language that the Conservatives were obviously not going to agree to.
00:04:24.060 But isn't it funny that for some reason, Carolyn Bennett talks in this article about just how much fire the Liberals now have to fight back against the Conservatives while she's resigning?
00:04:36.780 I know that you could say that, well, Carolyn Bennett's a bit older. 0.96
00:04:39.820 Obviously, she was going to resign at some point. 1.00
00:04:41.380 But when you look at the amount of people who are resigning between this Parliament and the next Parliament, not counting people who resigned and they've already been replaced in a by-election, but people just saying, I'm not running again.
00:04:51.640 There's only one Conservative saying he's not running again.
00:04:54.880 And shameless plug, it's Ron Leepert, Calgary Signal Hill.
00:04:57.920 I'm running for the Conservative Party nomination for Calgary Signal Hill.
00:05:01.500 I guarantee a bunch of you listening live in that riding.
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00:05:05.680 Sorry for the shameless plug.
00:05:06.800 Anyways, but there is about eight or nine Liberals that are not running again for the party.
00:05:12.320 The only other Conservative who's not running is Alan Reyes, who is at Richmond, Athabasca, hyper, hyper, socially liberal Conservative MP.
00:05:21.320 So, Pierre Polyev wasn't liberal enough for him, so he decided to leave.
00:05:25.060 Good riddance, I don't really care.
00:05:26.560 But most of the people that are not running again are Liberals.
00:05:29.600 In ridings that they should be able to win based off of their 2015 and 2019 election numbers.
00:05:36.040 Those people should be confident that they can win again.
00:05:38.920 And some of them are in strong ridings, but they're obviously seeing the writing on the wall that if they're currently a minister, they're not going to be a minister for very long.
00:05:46.660 And do they really want to sit around in Parliament for another four years, not doing anything but just opposing whatever the Conservatives are doing in likely a completely tiny oppositional manner where they can't actually stop anything?
00:05:57.980 But when you look through here, Wayne Long is not a very old man.
00:06:02.680 Lloyd Longfield, I believe, is a little bit older.
00:06:04.420 But like a lot of these people, other than like Carolyn Bennett, a lot of these people, Omar Al-Gabra, not a very old guy.
00:06:09.320 Emmanuel Dubois, like not a lot of these people.
00:06:12.160 Anthony Roda.
00:06:13.020 Anthony Roda is leaving because of the Nazi scandal.
00:06:14.840 But a lot of these people, they're just jumping ship because either the party wants them gone because they think they might hurt their chances or because they know that they're never going to hold a significant office in the Liberal government anymore.
00:06:27.060 The Liberals are probably going to lose and we're going to leave.
00:06:29.560 Whereas this article is projecting the idea that we're more confident than ever.
00:06:33.580 Confident parties don't have people jumping ship like this.
00:06:37.220 And like there's, you know, Nova Scotia MP Cody Bloys described the all-nighter with the Liberal colleagues as a turning point, particularly because Mr. Trudeau was in the House alongside them.
00:06:46.580 Quote, I have played a lot on a lot of team sports and having your leadership in the trenches with you matters.
00:06:51.300 We still have a lot more work ahead of us.
00:06:53.360 But I think as Canadians, we see more and more of Pierre Pauly, there will be more and more of what they don't like about him.
00:07:01.400 And it's like, okay, well, has that actually happened yet?
00:07:04.220 The Conservatives maybe slipped a little bit in the polls, but I don't think anyone was expecting the Conservatives to hold on to an 18-point lead forever.
00:07:11.480 That's like an unheard of lead in Canadian politics.
00:07:14.620 Yet because it's dampened a little bit, they really think that they're going to win.
00:07:18.460 Yeah, like this is another Liberal MP.
00:07:22.380 They said, I don't know if it's the Liberals bouncing back or it's the Conservatives sort of hitting a bump in the road, he said.
00:07:27.180 That's an awful quote as a Liberal.
00:07:29.600 The fact that a Liberal doesn't even know if they're doing something right or the Conservatives might have just hit a bump in the road in his own language.
00:07:36.520 A bump in the road implying that it's temporary and it's not going to be long term.
00:07:41.360 Even Liberal MPs trying to pump themselves up know this is not going very well.
00:07:47.280 And the best that they're going to ever have is maybe a couple tough fights in the Parliament with a Conservative opposition who can't actually stop them.
00:07:56.380 It was considered a big victory that the Liberals got a bunch of things passed that they easily had the votes to pass.
00:08:02.440 But it was like a in the trenches fight to even have to debate these issues with the Conservatives.
00:08:07.340 Because each time they have to debate one of these policies, the Liberals are looking worse and worse and more petty when they won't just pause the carbon tax.
00:08:15.960 If that's considered a big fight, your government just passing a bunch of bills before the holiday season, you're a failed party.
00:08:24.820 There's nothing left for your party to actually stand for.
00:08:30.060 But yeah, I don't want to get into other sort of advisors talking and whatnot.
00:08:34.660 But like the I guarantee by the next election, what we're going to see is probably about 20 to 30 Liberal MPs saying they're not going to run again, both from safe ridings as well as definitely a bunch of Liberals in maritime ridings, BC ridings, Ontario ridings that they know that they're going to be solidly blue and there's no point in them sticking around in opposition.
00:08:56.040 The one man I know is going to stick around no matter what is Mark Gerritsen, because that guy is only good for criticizing other parties, not actually getting anything done.
00:09:06.400 That's why he is a perpetual backbencher.
00:09:09.640 Mark Gerritsen is going to stick around and I'm going to love it because I will always have more content to make making fun of Mark Gerritsen.
00:09:16.300 Hopefully I will be in Parliament so I can make fun of him directly, but I can only dream or work hard so I win this nomination.
00:09:23.600 Anyways, that should be it for me today.
00:09:25.320 I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas this year and New Year's season will also be a lot of fun.
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00:10:33.140 So other than that, have a great day, everyone, and I'll see you back in my next video.