The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - Liberals want to reduce electricity use! Call Poilievre a threat to democracy!

00:00:00.000 Welcome back to the Wyatt Claypool Show, everyone. Remember back in 2015 when Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and the Liberals actually tried to come off as moderate and pragmatic to Canadians?

00:00:12.160 Well, that's all out the window. They now seem to be on a mission to make sure that not one Canadian thinks that they are in touch or sane by the end of their term in 2025.

00:00:23.020 They used to even pretend that they liked the Canadian oil and gas industry, and that myth has been long since busted a long time ago.

00:00:31.540 They absolutely hate our oil and gas production, especially that which happens in Alberta.

00:00:38.000 But now, it's not even enough for the Liberals to just be against oil and gas. They are now against electricity, or emissions, I guess, produced from electricity.

00:00:49.120 Even though we kind of need it to survive, I guess it's now time for the Liberals to target people for using too much electricity, because that's a major problem.

00:00:59.280 Can't have people with good qualities of life in this country now, can we?

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00:01:49.320 Anyways, without further ado, let's get into this clip that was posted by Bruce McGonigal.

00:01:55.680 He does a really good job of posting clips on X from different committee meetings, as well as question periods.

00:02:02.260 So go give him a follow if you happen to use X.

00:02:05.200 But here is our natural resource minister, Jonathan Wilkinson, actually saying that although he hates oil and gas and the emissions from that are bad,

00:02:14.380 we also have to look at the emissions from travel and electricity as also a massively bad thing.

00:02:22.420 At the end of the day, oil and gas represents 31% of emissions in this country.

00:02:27.080 It must begin to go down, it must begin to go down, just as transportation and electricity and everything else.

00:02:32.920 But if you are thoughtful about this, not backward looking from an economic perspective, but think about how insane that is.

00:02:39.220 We actually don't need to watch much of this clip.

00:02:41.620 That's absolutely ridiculous.

00:02:43.020 At the end of the day, oil and gas represents 31% of emissions in this country.

00:02:47.500 It must begin to go down, just as transportation and electricity and everything else.

00:02:52.500 It must begin to go down, and it would be backward looking for us to just ignore that problem, I suppose, of people using oil and gas products traveling and having to keep the heat on and electricity on in their homes.

00:03:08.660 I assume what he means by the oil and gas industry is only 31% of emissions is that extraction, refinement, and other things to do with oil and gas products directly are only 31% because obviously transportation and electricity also has to do with natural gas and gasoline.

00:03:25.320 But that's just such an absurdly insane position that it must begin to go down.

00:03:31.580 Not that it can go down over time if we have more efficient ways of using it and we can get more bang for our buck, because that's what capitalism has always been doing across human history, that we like to take the same size tank of gas much further because it saves us money.

00:03:49.500 And that's the great thing about capitalism is that environmentalism and capitalism should actually be two allies.

00:03:55.220 Because the definition of what a gas guzzling truck has been since the 1970s to now is very different.

00:04:02.320 We're actually very good at making sure that we can use the same amount of resources to accomplish far more things.

00:04:09.500 That's why if you ever see a coal power plant, although they phase them out across most of Canada, they don't have black smoke coming out their smokestacks because that's waste.

00:04:18.400 And so the power plants used to now, before we shut them down, recapture all the escape and coal dust and be able to re-burn that for more power.

00:04:28.500 This is the, but none of this has been accomplished by government, but now we must reduce electricity emissions and travel emissions.

00:04:37.180 That's just anti-human, they are not beating the accusation that they are far left degrowth environmentalists, people who think that the best thing for the planet is not just that we become more efficient with our use of, you know, emissions heavy products or whatever. 0.77

00:04:56.880 It's that we must, like, just degrow the economy, we must become smaller, we must all have smaller homes, only own one car, if even own a car or use public transportation at all.

00:05:08.940 It is an anti-human perspective.

00:05:11.680 But, and that's our natural resource minister.

00:05:14.660 The guy in charge of our natural resources has a steep hatred for the natural resources of Canada.

00:05:20.600 I find it just absurd.

00:05:22.160 Here's another clip also posted by Bruce McGonagall saying that they want to reduce Canadian oil and gas emissions with the cap that they're putting in place in order to basically just stop us from extracting and refining.

00:05:36.460 I'm proud to introduce Canada's draft regulations to cap pollution from the oil and gas sector.

00:05:43.160 Those regulations will help to cut pollution by 35% below 2019 levels while providing compliance flexibility.

00:05:50.460 In doing so, we will create a...

00:05:53.540 By the way, compliance flexibility basically means bribes.

00:05:57.580 If you pay the government by or invest in green tech, then they will give you more carbon credits so that you can burn more.

00:06:04.940 So if, listen, if it was such a big deal, if burning oil and gas products were such a horror show, why would you ever let people have offsets to keep burning it?

00:06:15.140 It's not, it's just a scam basically at this point.

00:06:18.240 They are just looking for more money from the industry and these are taxes and regulations are a great way of extracting more value and shifting it towards Eastern Canada, away from Western Canada where people don't vote for them.

00:06:30.380 Cap and trade system for the sector, it will reward low polluting facilities and incentivize higher polluting facilities to invest.

00:06:39.540 So what this means, it means no matter what happens to production, the pollution level will go down.

00:06:45.120 By the way, Stephen Gilboa here, our environmental minister, if you don't remember, actually referred to himself as a proud socialist.

00:06:53.580 And it's absolutely showing here.

00:06:56.200 The man doesn't understand economics at all.

00:06:59.760 If there is a plant that is a higher emissions plant and you're going to tax them to make them invest money into reducing emissions,

00:07:09.120 they're not emitting for fun, they are wanting to probably be as efficient as possible and they just don't have the money together to upgrade their plants or to invest in more efficient processes.

00:07:20.820 It's such a stupid lefty position that the way that we make people do things the better way, the more expensive way, is by taking their money away so they can't invest.

00:07:33.600 That's ridiculously stupid.

00:07:35.620 When you put a tax in place trying to get people to do something, usually you're trying to get them to do it less in general, just stop.

00:07:44.360 If you put a tax on cigarettes, you're trying to get people to stop smoking.

00:07:48.400 If you put a tax on oil and gas and refining and all these emissions, you're trying to end the emissions.

00:07:55.500 You're not just trying to reduce them a bit or you would probably give them a tax credit in order to reduce because that is an actual positive incentive.

00:08:03.540 You're not trying to bankrupt them unless they do what you want.

00:08:07.480 That is a negative incentive and negative incentives, in my opinion, have never been good.

00:08:13.000 They're just not efficient at all.

00:08:15.260 Every time we put up more taxes on our economy, things just slow down more and investment stops.

00:08:21.400 And there's another clip I think I saw.

00:08:23.180 It was from Rebel News.

00:08:24.120 I don't need to pull it up here.

00:08:25.100 But Stephen Gilbeau is saying that we've accomplished getting Canada to our lowest emission levels ever.

00:08:31.680 And it's funny whenever I see the liberals suddenly believe in per capita emissions metrics, when usually with the GDP, they never like to talk about per capita because mass immigration has shredded our per capita income and wealth in this country.

00:08:47.780 Our GDP keeps going up every year, even then it's not even going up that much, but our per capita falls.

00:08:55.280 So they only talk about the raw GDP.

00:08:58.640 But when it comes to emissions, they never talk about raw emissions because Canada's raw emissions go up every single year.

00:09:03.820 So instead, they talk about per capita emissions, which is funny because now they're trying to say that it's the carbon tax that caused this, even though per capita emissions since the 50s has been going like this.

00:09:15.380 Emissions have been going down because, again, capitalism is great.

00:09:19.680 People are greedy and they want to use the same tank of gas to go 50 kilometers further than they used to.

00:09:25.700 But because Stephen Gilbeau and the liberals put in place the carbon tax in 2019, suddenly all of the per capita emissions are because of the carbon tax.

00:09:34.940 And by the way, the steeper drop off on emissions we saw after 2019 had nothing to do with the carbon tax.

00:09:41.060 What happened is COVID hit and basically the Canadian government, the provincial governments around Canada shut down the economy.

00:09:49.820 And so our emissions basically flopped like the GDP did.

00:09:53.300 Our GDP went down and our emissions went down in line with it.

00:09:57.440 And since then, it's been kind of slowly creeping up as the economy comes back on to line and comes back online.

00:10:05.300 And Stephen Gilbeau is pretending that this is a big success of the carbon tax.

00:10:09.160 It's not. You can't tax an inelastic good to get people to stop using it.

00:10:15.440 If you tax food heavily, people are not going to suddenly figure out a way of just be photosynthesizing in the sun.

00:10:23.040 They will keep eating food even if you tax it.

00:10:25.880 People will keep filling up their truck even if you tax it.

00:10:29.440 Some people will go to public transportation.

00:10:31.300 It's a very tiny amount of people and that's usually because you push them into the floor when it comes to their incomes and they can no longer afford to even fuel up their car.

00:10:41.660 So now they're having to take the bus.

00:10:43.160 But that's not exactly a reality I like.

00:10:45.660 As time goes on, though, the Liberals have been getting more and more radical with their rhetoric.

00:10:52.580 They know the pure poly of conservative train is coming in 2025.

00:10:56.340 I talked about this yesterday in a video just about the polling numbers that are out there showing that a lot of people are coping on the liberal side of things whenever a scuffed poll comes out.

00:11:08.320 I don't mean a rigged poll, but just a bad poll comes out showing that they're actually up in Manitoba and Saskatchewan not realizing the sample size was 40.

00:11:16.100 And ECOS also doesn't really have much of a reputation worth defending these days.

00:11:21.840 Frank Graves runs ECOS, who also puts in all those very strange questions around disinformation and misinformation, where the entire questions are rigged to try and get conservatives to say that they believe in things that Frank Graves arbitrarily decides is misinformation.

00:11:36.920 Like a piece of misinformation he includes is that, do you believe that can, does GDP growth is the strongest in the G7?

00:11:44.040 If you say no, that's misinformation.

00:11:47.220 Because in a technical sense, he's right that our GDP is going up faster than any other country in the G7.

00:11:53.740 But most people, when they get that question, they'll be like, our GDP per capita is way down.

00:11:57.960 Our country is doing really bad.

00:11:59.640 You're not thinking that, oh, technically in some really stupid metric, our country's growth, economic growth is going up because we imported 1.3 million people.

00:12:09.360 Don't we feel great about the economy?

00:12:11.020 It's not because I don't think ECOS is rigging polls to help the liberals.

00:12:14.800 Even their trend lines show the conservatives are ahead and are staying ahead.

00:12:18.720 But it was ridiculous seeing so many liberals pretending that ECOS or NANOS farting out a plus 12 or plus 14 for the conservatives means that there is a room for a comeback for Justin Trudeau when all the other pollsters are showing a plus 18 to plus 22 lead for the Conservative Party of Canada.

00:12:37.100 But here's a great clip of a Liberal MP, Adam van Kovaden, I don't know.

00:12:46.280 I'm sorry to Dutch people, I'm bad at saying your name sometimes.

00:12:49.680 But this Liberal MP who is having an absolute meltdown over the potential risks to Canada's democracy that pure poly opposes.

00:12:59.340 This is just obviously overheated and irresponsible rhetoric, but it's okay when liberals do it.

00:13:05.400 What I'm focused on is my constituents.

00:13:08.900 What I'm focused on is beating Pierre Polyev in the next federal election.

00:13:12.180 He poses an existential threat to Canada's democracy in my view.

00:13:15.500 He also is committed to tearing down some of the institutions that Canadians rely on.

00:13:19.760 An existential threat to Canada's democracy.

00:13:25.240 How?

00:13:25.980 How is Pierre Polyev a threat to Canada's democracy?

00:13:31.340 What has he done at all that would make you think that we're not going to have elections if Pierre Polyev becomes the new prime minister?

00:13:38.240 What institutions is he ripping down?

00:13:42.080 He's not actually going to go after any institutions.

00:13:44.880 And when I say institutions, I mean like he's not going to get rid of health care.

00:13:48.140 He's not going to get rid of the judiciary, real institutions of the Canadian government.

00:13:52.880 He's not getting rid of social security.

00:13:55.000 He might get rid of the CBC's funding.

00:13:57.100 That doesn't actually even mean the CBC goes away.

00:13:59.820 That means that taxpayers no longer have to subsidize a failing media company that hates them if they vote conservative.

00:14:07.860 Yes, there are some good people who work for the CBC.

00:14:10.480 Absolutely.

00:14:11.200 It's hard to spend 1.4 billion people, a billion dollars staffing your news outlet and not get some good people.

00:14:17.220 But for the most part, it's a complete money drain.

00:14:19.920 The CBC, in fact, spends more per capita on Canada's media market than Fox News does in the United States.

00:14:28.660 Because $1.4 million, when you consider the population difference, is $1.4 billion is way bigger than in Canada's population than Fox News's budget is in the United States.

00:14:40.920 It's, like, not even actually that close.

00:14:43.340 There is a significant, like, 30% to 40% higher budget per capita in Canada for the CBC than Fox has in the United States.

00:14:51.740 But he wants to get rid of CBC, I guess.

00:14:55.540 I guess maybe that's a threat to Canada because Canadians can no longer get responsible state media information.

00:15:02.280 He wants to get rid of the dental care program, potentially, the $10 child care program.

00:15:08.840 They're not good programs.

00:15:10.400 They're programs that are doomed to fail in the future because you can't keep having less and less people pay for more and more services for others.

00:15:19.620 That is how you bankrupt a government.

00:15:21.860 That's how we had the debt crisis in the 1990s in Canada.

00:15:25.420 Everything became way too weighed on – the private sector shrank and the government sector grew, demanding more and more money from the private sector until, finally, Jean Chrétien, as well as many premiers across Canada like Ralph Klein and Mike Harris, had to just significantly shrink their government budgets because it had gotten out of control.

00:15:47.200 So, in fact, if we're thinking that the Conservatives cutting things are the risk to our democracy and our institutions, in fact, you should be blaming the Liberals for having ruined the budget and made it necessary to cut lots and lots of waste out of the Canadian government.

00:16:04.460 Ugh, anyways.

00:16:06.220 Now I want to see if I can move on to some – oh, here's actually a really good – oh, actually, never mind.

00:16:10.980 I want to go to another pure Stephen Gilbeau video.

00:16:13.260 So this is a video that Stephen Gilbeau posted.

00:16:16.860 I find it endlessly funny whenever Liberals put out attack odds on Polyev these days because there's always a few different themes.

00:16:24.420 You know, Polyev is vaguely scary in some way.

00:16:28.220 He believes in misinformation as well as he wants to cut the government budget in which none of those things actually appeal to Canadians right now.

00:16:36.360 People don't think Polyev's spreading misinformation because he's not.

00:16:39.320 But Canadians are not scared of budget cuts because 62% plus of Canadians believe it's actually necessary to reduce government spending.

00:16:47.660 Nobody thinks that more than 44% of our GDP should be public sector spending.

00:16:53.380 And then also, nobody actually considers pure Polyev a sinister figure that lives up to the vague kind of Polyev's a bad man.

00:17:03.920 Polyev's coming after you. 0.68

00:17:05.360 He's going to go after your rights.

00:17:07.040 He's going to go after your whatever.

00:17:09.600 It's not what I mean.

00:17:10.040 He's going to go after your pride parades and abortions or whatever the Liberals are saying these days.

00:17:14.760 He's just not.

00:17:15.480 And especially on the abortion type of side of things that the Liberals keep going on about, I'm pro-life.

00:17:22.460 I can tell you the Federal Conservative Party right now is not pro-life.

00:17:26.040 There are many pro-life MPs, but the party itself is not pro-life.

00:17:29.920 So it's always annoying to me every time the Liberals or Liberal cheerleaders online go after the Conservatives as, like, dangerous pro-lifers, which is ridiculous.

00:17:41.400 The Liberals, in fact, are complete goblins on the issue of life.

00:17:45.500 They literally voted down a Conservative proposal that all the Conservatives voted in favor of.

00:17:50.680 And I actually believe one NDP guy voted in favor of, so credit to him.

00:17:54.580 I had to go figure out who it was.

00:17:56.180 But it was a bill to have upgraded sentencing for if a pregnant woman is murdered for, obviously, the loss of her child as well.

00:18:04.620 Or I think it was also assaults on a pregnant woman if the child is lost.

00:18:07.980 The Liberals, basically all the NDP and the Greens voted against that.

00:18:13.800 That's not being pro-choice.

00:18:15.860 That's just being a complete goblin.

00:18:17.800 It couldn't even vote to make it so that someone's compensated for an actual real loss?

00:18:24.480 Oh, well, that would be too pro-life.

00:18:26.380 That would be giving humanity to an unborn child to have upgraded criminal sentencing for somebody who was beating on a pregnant woman.

00:18:34.940 Just nasty garbage-like stuff.

00:18:37.300 Anyways, here's the video that Stephen Gilbeau put up.

00:18:40.560 Who's really pulling Polyev's strings?

00:18:43.260 See, the vague insinuation, Polyev's a bad guy.

00:18:46.860 Who is Pierre Polyev really looking out for?

00:18:49.980 He likes to tell Canadians that he would ignore corporate lobbyists and only listen to The People.

00:18:56.240 But newly released documents tell a very different story.

00:18:59.300 Elections Canada fundraising reports have now revealed that on July 5th, Polyev held an exclusive closed-door fundraiser.

00:19:11.860 Closed-door fundraiser?

00:19:13.480 They realize that most fundraisers are closed-door.

00:19:18.120 You can't just walk in and start having some brisket when you haven't donated any money to the party.

00:19:23.620 I always find it funny how the liberals—and I've even seen conservatives do this before, too.

00:19:30.660 But people exploit the ignorance of the public on how fundraising and politics works to pretend this is all spooky and scary.

00:19:39.380 It's not.

00:19:39.940 It's how anyone fundraises for anything.

00:19:42.700 There are closed-door fundraisers for veterinary clinics, for free veterinary clinics, charity clinics.

00:19:49.160 There are closed-door fundraisers for children's cancer charities.

00:19:53.700 I don't think they're up to anything behind closed doors, and we've got to kick down the door and see what all these people are up to.

00:19:59.700 I'm pretty sure they're giving money to the guy.

00:20:03.180 Big oil and gas guys are giving money to Polyev?

00:20:06.000 Say it isn't so. Say it isn't so that oil and gas executives would be giving the legal maximum, which is only $1,750, like $1,750, and I think like $0.40 or $0.50.

00:20:18.600 They're giving that to Polyev?

00:20:21.040 Whoa, sound the alarm.

00:20:22.860 Oil and gas guys are giving money to the guys, the party that doesn't hate them?

00:20:27.180 Whoa.

00:20:28.020 My mind is absolutely blown.

00:20:30.300 My hair is on fire.

00:20:31.480 You just can't see it.

00:20:32.400 With dozens of oil and gas CEOs and executives, where he took massive donations from each of them.

00:20:39.900 And this wasn't the first time.

00:20:42.060 From each of them?

00:20:43.320 He didn't just have a fundraiser where he took money from a single guy.

00:20:47.280 He took money from each of them.

00:20:49.840 Each?

00:20:50.620 Wow.

00:20:51.620 I'm spooked right now.

00:20:53.740 I'm not sure if I can, like, leave the house.

00:20:56.380 The Jimmies have been scared off of me. 1.00

00:20:58.560 Because Polyev's making fundraising.

00:21:01.640 Goodness.

00:21:02.680 Call out actual corruption.

00:21:05.240 If you find a conservative politician doing something actually corrupt, I want you to call it out right away.

00:21:11.540 What is this, though, that we're pretending that oil and gas guys shouldn't be able to donate?

00:21:16.900 That's really what Stephen Gilboa wants here.

00:21:18.860 Because apparently, like, it deserves the booming music, like it's a new, like a Brad Pitt zombie movie.

00:21:25.980 Wah.

00:21:27.100 Pierre Polyev is fundraising money.

00:21:29.420 Wah.

00:21:30.500 Isn't that scary?

00:21:32.240 Wah.

00:21:33.420 Threat to democracy.

00:21:35.180 Wah.

00:21:36.980 In May of last year, Polyev, once again, held another fundraiser with a who's who of the oil and gas industry.

00:21:44.820 This isn't an accident.

00:21:47.460 And it helps explain why he is deliberately undermining policies that fight climate change, even if it will cost Canadians more.

00:21:55.660 He has systematically opposed any and all measures designed to cut pollution in the oil and gas sector.

00:22:03.780 As we've talked about, the pollution's been going down for years.

00:22:07.320 Because people like being efficient.

00:22:09.340 Oil and gas companies like being efficient.

00:22:11.000 So they've reduced their emissions on their own.

00:22:12.540 You'd think that they're going to show, like, a photo on screen of, like, pure Polyev shaking hands with Kim Jong-un and Saddam Hussein at the same time. 0.63

00:22:22.300 And drive innovation in clean technology, including policies supported by previous conservative leaders.

00:22:29.640 During his 20 years as a member of parliament, Polyev has voted nearly 400 times against measures designed to protect the environment.

00:22:37.800 Based.

00:22:38.260 His promise to Canada's biggest polluters is that they can put unlimited amounts of pollution into the atmosphere for free.

00:22:46.580 Pierre Polyev will pretend he is standing up for Canadians.

00:22:49.680 But now it's clear.

00:22:51.340 He's only standing up for his wealthy donor friends and big oil lobbyists.

00:22:55.260 But no, the liberals don't have big donors.

00:23:01.380 They don't have big donors.

00:23:02.180 They don't have lobbyists.

00:23:03.240 They just have little guys.

00:23:04.640 They just have little baby donors. 0.98

00:23:06.400 Little baby guys here.

00:23:07.700 Just giving them little bits of money.

00:23:09.640 Liberals won't let you give them more than 20 bucks.

00:23:11.840 They're too good for that.

00:23:13.280 They don't need that.

00:23:14.180 They just need their little donation.

00:23:15.540 Little guys.

00:23:16.420 Little ones.

00:23:17.720 Maybe this is why the liberals aren't doing so well in the fundraising these days.

00:23:21.480 If I can bring this up on screen, I already made a video on this.

00:23:24.920 But in the third quarter, the liberals only brought in $3.32 million, while the conservatives brought in $8.4 million.

00:23:31.940 And that was a downgrade from what the conservatives brought in in the second quarter.

00:23:36.360 But obviously, it's going to ramp up again once we get into the holiday season here.

00:23:40.560 But the liberals haven't even been within double of what the conservatives have been fundraising.

00:23:45.480 And they have Bay Street donors.

00:23:48.520 I don't really care to, like, demonize that.

00:23:51.520 I don't care.

00:23:52.140 Get money from whoever.

00:23:53.380 I actually think that the donation caps in Canada are way too low.

00:23:57.540 $1,750 is nothing when you consider the fact that in a Canadian federal election, we probably spend less than, like, a Pennsylvania Senate race.

00:24:09.660 An Illinois governor's race where you know who's going to win it.

00:24:12.540 Somehow, we spend nothing in Canadian politics whatsoever.

00:24:16.440 It's actually pretty, like, it's actually kind of bad for democracy because it means that parties can barely spend on advertising.

00:24:23.520 So the average voter is not really that well informed on what the platforms are of each of the parties.

00:24:29.460 And so most people will get most of their election information through, like, the CBC, CTV News, Global, City TV, in which you're not going to be getting a non-biased take.

00:24:38.940 The way the CBC, in my opinion, I've actually said this to people at the UCPA GM a lot when we were discussing it.

00:24:45.800 The CBC's best tactic at pretending to be neutral is being as boring as possible.

00:24:51.020 The CBC is very left.

00:24:52.520 But because they talk in such boring ways and their shows lack any charisma at all, you're like, well, this must be somewhat neutral because this is making you want to fall asleep, even though it is a lot of leftist drivel sort of inserted into a lot of stories.

00:25:07.860 A lot of left wing assumptions are baked into the way that they cover things.

00:25:11.620 So they will be hosting tons and tons of people who are going to call parental rights bills, especially the one that just came out in Alberta, being, like, transphobic or homophobic.

00:25:22.660 It's not.

00:25:23.440 But that's just the left wing assumption that the CBC makes because it is mostly run by leftists.

00:25:30.320 Anyways, let's end on something a little bit more fun.

00:25:34.100 And it's going to be the, yeah, I'm just going to skip that.

00:25:39.240 I was going to talk about taxes, but I don't think anyone wants to hear about how bad Canadian taxes are right now.

00:25:43.640 We're going to talk about another lefty TikToker because I find it fun.

00:25:48.440 This one being Frank Dominic, who you've seen before.

00:25:51.800 You can go follow him if you want there on X.

00:25:54.440 But this is the title of his video.

00:25:56.420 If we had a ranked ballot in Canada, how would Canadians vote?

00:25:59.780 I created a survey with ReadForum to find out.

00:26:03.120 And I actually find this decently interesting that he did this, but I just want to critique the illogic of the idea that somehow ranked choice voting in a Canadian federal election would somehow mean that we would have more democratic outcomes.

00:26:22.580 I'm very much a believer in the first-past-the-post system overall, especially I'm basically in favor of whatever system we've been using for a very long time.

00:26:32.220 Because our entire electoral system, our party system has already adapted to the current way we vote.

00:26:41.660 And so, like, for an example, that's why I don't, like, cure proportional representation.

00:26:45.280 Because every time someone takes the results from the last election and they just run it through a proportional representation algorithm with whatever threshold they have to be able to start winning seats, it's taking a first-past-the-post election and just assuming we had voted like it was proportional.

00:27:00.880 That's not how that works.

00:27:02.880 You would have so many parties pop up overnight to run in a proportional representation system because you don't need that many votes to get one person across the finish line.

00:27:12.040 You don't think the Christian Heritage Party or, you know, some other random parties would start being able to elect a single guy, especially if it's pure proportional representation where all you need is the exact percentage of the vote in order to get one person across the finish line.

00:27:30.160 Maybe it would be regional-based, but still, even then, I find it a bit arbitrary.

00:27:34.600 Oh, I believe in proportional representation.

00:27:37.160 But regionalized, and you have to have 5%, and you have to, I'm like, okay, well, that's not proportional representation, and you don't actually want proportional representation.

00:27:44.080 You want a version of proportional representation that gets your favorite party the most amount of seats.

00:27:50.040 But anyways, here, let's go into Frank Dominic talking about proportional representation here.

00:27:54.980 How would Canadian voting intentions change if we had a ranked ballot system? I was curious, so I created a survey in collaboration with the Angus Reid Forum to find out.

00:28:01.960 One, the guy has to lay off the speed or the coffee. One of the two. I talk fast, but I have to give Frank Dominic an award because he talks somehow faster than I do.

00:28:12.180 It stands right now, most Canadians would still be voting for the Conservative Party first.

00:28:15.560 Where it gets interesting, though, is how few people would have put the Conservatives as second or third, their next big bunch of support coming from a fourth ranking.

00:28:22.340 What that implies is that most people who are voting Liberal and NDP would not be ranking the Conservatives as their second vote, nor as their third.

00:28:28.860 And as you can see, for first, second, and third, both the Liberals and the NDP are evenly split.

00:28:33.220 Meaning that regardless of whether or not they're voting for the Conservatives and the Liberals and the NDP, a lot of people are willing to vote for the Liberals and the NDP second and third.

00:28:39.760 But this is where he's, like, losing me very quickly. I don't. Why do I want more people elected into our government who people only wanted on a second or third ballot?

00:28:53.960 Right now, in the polls, the Liberals and the NDP combined wouldn't be as much as the Conservatives in most polls.

00:29:02.100 And even then, I don't think if the NDP just disappeared tomorrow that most of their voters would even go Liberal.

00:29:08.700 I think a lot of them would either sit home, potentially vote Green, or even vote Conservative.

00:29:12.860 Because there are different parties for a reason.

00:29:16.220 If they actually had the same appeal, one party would have already taken a dirt nap at this point.

00:29:21.880 The NDP and the Liberals keep moving closer and closer together because their party leaderships are completely, ridiculously stupid.

00:29:29.220 Like, the NDP should be leaning more into their blue-collar appeal that they had under Jack Layton if they were smart.

00:29:35.320 And Trudeau would stop chasing the woke voters that Jagmeet Singh has been trying to monopolize on university campuses.

00:29:41.020 But this is, I don't consider this Democratic, that we would, and I'll at least let him finish and then I'll make my point at the end.

00:29:49.100 ...that those parties have a wider base of support.

00:29:51.580 While the first ranking Conservative vote is strong, after that it dies down, whereas the Liberals and the NDP are more palatable to a wider range of voters.

00:29:59.140 The Greens really shine in third place.

00:30:01.240 To me, this indicates that the voters who are voting the Liberals and the NDPs first and second are then voting Greens third, and then they put the Conservatives fourth.

00:30:07.920 But what's super interesting is that the PPC are a dead last.

00:30:10.300 How would you rank your ballot?

00:30:11.960 Why would that be interesting?

00:30:13.480 Everyone knows the PPC would be dead last.

00:30:15.480 They're literally the last place party in the polls.

00:30:18.220 Anyways, but that is just something very silly to me in my mind.

00:30:23.320 That, like, well, see, it actually is bad if the Conservatives win, because that's the implication here.

00:30:28.340 The Conservatives win the next election in 2025.

00:30:30.720 Well, it's been a disservice to all these NDP and Liberal voters who they could have, like, they wouldn't have voted at the Conservative second ballot or third ballot.

00:30:41.720 Okay.

00:30:42.840 What does that mean?

00:30:44.500 Well, vote for the party that you think can win in your area.

00:30:47.080 People are functioning adults.

00:30:48.460 They know if they live in a riding, if the Liberals have a better chance of beating the Conservative or the NDP does.

00:30:55.040 The reason that people don't end up consolidating behind that option is because they don't really like the option that much.

00:31:01.300 The ranked ballot is making it up, is creating an artificial agreement.

00:31:07.280 It's creating artificial consensus behind this, like, second or third place party saying, well, if we can consolidate all this stuff, well, then it's better because more people kind of liked them.

00:31:20.680 Okay, but if 43% of Canadians like the Conservatives, what does it matter that we could technically jam all the other parties together with a few passionate people and mostly apathetic people to outweigh them?

00:31:34.000 I think it means more that you can get 44%, 42% of people to say, yes, I want you, rather than just 22% saying, yes, I want you, and another 20% saying, eh, I suppose?

00:31:46.820 Those, that's my problem with the stupid rank choice voting in federal elections.

00:31:52.440 Rank choice voting is fine in, like, a leadership race or, like, a nomination within a singular party where everyone presumably has generally shared values and now we're mostly ranking personalities.

00:32:05.320 Who do I trust the most?

00:32:06.400 Who I think would be the best representative?

00:32:08.280 Who has the most experience?

00:32:09.620 Who is the best communicator?

00:32:11.300 That's fine.

00:32:12.060 But once, but even in those cases, you often sometimes get turkeys of candidates or leaders, like Ed Stelmack, when it goes down to, like, a fourth or fifth choice and people are just kind of picking the compromise guy.

00:32:25.060 And so nobody actually is really happy.

00:32:27.380 We just have a bunch of people who compromised on a bad choice.

00:32:30.640 This happens in proportional representation systems all over the world.

00:32:34.420 Israel most notoriously. 0.51

00:32:35.960 Nobody agrees, so they constantly have elections, and nobody is incentivized to stop voting for their very oddly specific interest party that holds up the government if they don't get everything they want.

00:32:48.660 Proportional representation does not make everyone more representative.

00:32:51.560 It makes pet issues go to the top of the issue list in government because you can make a stupid pet party around one or two issues, and you can hold up an entire government over that, even though, obviously, it's not very representative of what the entire population wants.

00:33:08.820 I like first past the post because it rewards people being able to get a large chunk of people to be able to agree with something.

00:33:16.960 Just because the conservatives are going to get a majority government with 45% of the vote doesn't mean anyone was disenfranchised.

00:33:24.220 It means we took the biggest interest, the biggest, most coherent interest, and we're going to let them have a chance to govern.

00:33:30.300 We don't need to get people, you don't need to get people on board who are voting for fringe issues and throwing 2% of their vote towards the Greens or 3% towards another fringe party in an area.

00:33:41.900 That's not, those are ignorable votes for good reason.

00:33:45.460 They're not ignorable in the ballot counting, but it's weird that we would then have to say, well, you know, 2% of people voted Greens, so they deserve like six, seven seats or something like that because that's 2% of the overall seats.

00:33:58.080 That just doesn't make sense to me.

00:33:59.700 If you can't get more than 2% of people in most ridings to agree with you, 4% of people in most ridings to agree with something, there's something incoherent about that ideology that only seems to work in very niche areas.

00:34:12.720 And that's perfectly fine if you can get people in a specific area, a plurality of them to send you into parliament.

00:34:18.980 I'm fine with Elizabeth May being in parliament.

00:34:21.240 She represents a specific concentrated interest, and that's the great thing about first past the post.

00:34:25.980 It's you have to be able to represent a concentrated interest.

00:34:30.480 You can't just have shotgun support over across the entire country, or you'd incentivize a lot of PR parties, proportional representation parties, who just dump ads on social media.

00:34:40.940 And as long as they get one person in every, like 1% of people in every single riding to vote for them, they get to send two or three people into parliament.

00:34:47.920 And it's silly.

00:34:50.060 Anyways, that's it for me today, guys.

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00:35:12.160 It's going to allow me in the future that if there's any big things going on in leadership races, nominations, I'm able to let you know how I'd vote in that area.

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00:35:24.920 And I can recommend that to other people if I agree with the analysis, or I can even just be able to present your take so I can find people in the same postal code areas and be able to connect everybody behind specific, real, orthodox, conservative candidates.

00:35:40.600 And so we can avoid having too many red Tories representing us within conservative parties, both provincially and federally. 0.84

00:35:47.400 I have two leadership races I'm probably going to be getting involved in in the next little while.

00:35:52.640 Not running in them, of course, and I'm probably not going to come onto the ground, but just following, looking into, and giving you updates on.

00:35:59.080 And that's Manitoba's PC leadership and the likely upcoming leadership race in New Brunswick, where I am hoping Chris Austin decides to run for the leadership.

00:36:08.580 He is currently a PC MLA, but he was also the leader of the People's Alliance in New Brunswick.

00:36:14.240 That was a successful small party that was able to elect three and then two MLAs in two subsequent elections.

00:36:22.500 Yes, that's the word.

00:36:23.800 And I think he would be a fantastic, bold leader for the New Brunswick PCs.

00:36:28.300 He wouldn't be going back in the red Tory direction, believing the lies that Blaine Higgs lost because he was too conservative.

00:36:34.840 He wasn't.

00:36:35.640 It's because I don't think the campaign was bold enough.

00:36:37.760 I think the campaign went mild, and mild campaigns just almost invite people to go and vote for the other guys.

00:36:44.100 And I think that there is, in general, a populist trend across Canada, not against liberal politicians, but just against incumbents in general.

00:36:52.780 The situation federally is very unique to Trudeau, where it doesn't matter if Trudeau was in or out of office right now.

00:36:58.360 People don't want anything from him these days.

00:37:01.420 Anyways, that's it for me today.

00:37:03.440 Have a good one.

The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - November 04, 2024

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