The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - Looking into Carney's Air Canada conflict-of-interest (ft. Greg Staley)

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here. Something that didn't sit right with me and many other Canadians in the aftermath of the Air Canada strike fiasco was just why the Liberal government acted so fast.

00:00:13.400 We have seen the Liberals in previous times where there have been strikes be very slow, not forcing a resolution, letting the strike go on for weeks and weeks, disrupting things like packages being shipped around the country, and maybe someone could argue because this was disrupting flights and it was stranding people around the country.

00:00:32.640 That's why the Liberals acted so fast. It's not really in their character. And so today I brought on a friend of mine from Diverge Media, Greg Staley, to try and explain maybe why Mark Carney would be so motivated and his ministers in order to jump into the situation and try and come down on the side of Air Canada so quickly.

00:00:54.440 I don't think that you and I are anti-Air Canada, Greg, or pro-QP Union, but just to explain why the Liberals are acting very out of character is, I think, something that's needed right now.

00:01:08.380 Yeah, so we uncovered some financial incentives and in the grand scheme of things, yeah, it might not be a huge amount, but the other thing it shows is that there's obviously friendships and connections with people in the industry.

00:01:20.480 Brookfield's heavily invested in aviation. They brought in the former Air Canada CEO to be an advisor on aviation.

00:01:28.820 So there's those friendships, those connections, and I'm sure they're just a phone call away if somebody wanted to give Prime Minister Carney a call and say,

00:01:36.020 hey, it's been like 10 hours, let's end this thing already. I think they could have done that.

00:01:40.480 This sounds like a bit of a strange thing to bring up in this discussion, but I do think it's relevant.

00:01:47.280 So the one Liberal MP who actually spoke out against the government's decision to try and force flight attendants back to work so quickly was Nate Erskine Smith.

00:01:58.100 Now, you'll remember when Carney first became Prime Minister before the election was called, he made Nate Erskine Smith, the housing minister, to entice him back to running for the Liberal Party.

00:02:09.140 He was going to retire or move on to some other form of politics or another, you know, go into media.

00:02:15.020 He runs his own podcast. And so they made them the housing minister.

00:02:19.420 And right after the election, they replaced Nate with the former mayor of Vancouver.

00:02:25.740 I forget the man's name. It doesn't really matter. He's deeply incompetent. Nobody should know who he is.

00:02:30.180 But what I always got from that is that Carney likes people that he likes, you know, people that he's friends with, people he's known a long time.

00:02:40.060 He trusts those people more than someone like Nate Erskine Smith, who, you know, maybe I don't like his housing solutions,

00:02:45.900 but, you know, compared to the former mayor of Vancouver, was probably going to be more competent.

00:02:50.840 And what it feels like in this Erkanda situation is that Carney is jumping into the aid of people that he's known for a while, you know, companies he's interacted with, you know, it's close to his heart.

00:03:03.600 Again, Brookfield is working with a former Erkanda CEO.

00:03:07.420 And then you wonder why the call goes through to Erkanda so fast.

00:03:10.780 But you were telling me something earlier before we started recording about how there was an actual call where Erkanda had no clue what they were going to do unless Carney just did it all for them.

00:03:22.540 Yeah. So there's a leaked phone call.

00:03:24.080 And basically the conversation was, hey, you guys need to step in because we really don't have a plan for this.

00:03:30.060 Less than 12 hours later, Carney's stepping in using government legislation.

00:03:33.780 Like you said, like the liberals are traditionally kind of the union party alongside the NDP.

00:03:41.380 And why did they flip so hard so fast on that when it's a political nightmare for them?

00:03:47.180 Like now they're trying to recover.

00:03:49.160 Like you mentioned on your show the other day, they single handedly in this blunder have given the NDP life and wind in their sails that they didn't otherwise have.

00:03:58.540 And it's not like the NDP were some great, you know, they didn't have some great strategy to be relevant again.

00:04:04.260 They just got handed this on a silver platter.

00:04:07.400 And now what are the liberals have to recover from this?

00:04:10.460 But I think they've they've damaged the brand.

00:04:12.980 And now you've got a question.

00:04:14.440 I mean, every time we see this prime minister move, what are the friendships and behind the scenes?

00:04:19.420 Where's the financial motives?

00:04:20.800 And you just kind of question, like, is any of this being done with the interests of Canadians in mind or is this self-seeking and serving of the inner circle?

00:04:29.980 And naturally, you're never going to be able to get a conclusive answer on this unless Carney just comes out and says, oh, yeah, that's totally how I operate.

00:04:37.580 But with what we've seen just so far with him back when he was an advisor to Justin Trudeau, an economics advisor, and then after becoming prime minister, there's just a pattern of what he chooses to intervene on, what he chooses to make his big policy initiatives.

00:04:54.960 It's like modular homes.

00:04:56.680 We're going to solve the housing crisis with modular homes.

00:05:00.100 Brookfield happens to have a, you know, be involved in modular homes.

00:05:03.920 And is it the dollar amount that he's doing this for in order to benefit Brookfield?

00:05:09.100 Well, you can go, I want you to go into the specific aviation industry connections between Brookfield and Air Canada a bit.

00:05:16.780 And it's not the most amount of money.

00:05:19.320 But that's not really the point, though.

00:05:21.260 But there is a over, there's a macro pattern of him choosing to benefit industries that Brookfield is invested in.

00:05:28.660 They are heavily invested in a lot of government subsidized industries, you know, green tech, batteries, EVs.

00:05:35.100 At one point, they tried to buy a pharmaceutical company in Spain that just happened to be getting very cheap blood plasma from Canada blood services.

00:05:44.340 It feels like at every from at in every situation, there is some Brookfield inside angle where they get information before anyone else.

00:05:53.560 And things just happen to be able to move in their direction, sometimes just in a policy standpoint where other companies benefit, too.

00:06:00.080 But it's always macro benefiting Brookfield, who oftentimes is invested in in industries where if it wasn't for the government, they would be failing.

00:06:08.600 But but what's the connection with between Brookfield and Air Canada?

00:06:12.220 Yeah. So just to quickly outline this, it's detailed in our article that we just released the other day.

00:06:18.860 But Brookfield, obviously, the prime minister has, you know, holdings there and what this would look like for his personal holdings.

00:06:26.520 Again, we don't know.

00:06:27.980 But obviously, there's friendships and connections in this industry.

00:06:31.280 They hold Brookfield holds approximately a 13.2 percent stake in a company called Coors Aviation and Air Canada also holds a stake in Coors Aviation of about 10 percent.

00:06:42.640 So there's the converging of interest there.

00:06:44.580 But Brookfield invested three hundred seventy four million dollars into Coors Aviation and under Coors Aviation.

00:06:51.600 Their subsidiary is a company called Jazz, and they operate from what I can see from the Air Canada website, over 50 airplanes in the Air Canada fleet.

00:06:59.400 So that's just on the financial side.

00:07:03.100 But obviously, you have these connections and these friendships in that industry.

00:07:07.240 And are you going to are you going to screw over all your friends and assuming the best of the prime minister?

00:07:12.860 Obviously, Canadians come first. 1.00

00:07:14.780 But let's just assume he wants to be a good friend here.

00:07:18.140 He has a lot of incentive to do things that are good for his friends that aren't good for Canadians.

00:07:23.580 Yeah. And that's and that's where I think people overestimate or underestimate.

00:07:27.380 I mean, just how much of a conflict that can be of just knowing too many people in the industry.

00:07:35.160 There was a big like there was a lot of hubbub around Nigel Wright back when he was the chief of staff of former prime minister Stephen Harper.

00:07:43.920 When he was coming in, they were they were really there were people freaking out because he had a lot invested.

00:07:50.780 He was from he was a former board member of an aviation company that I believe dealt in actually military type jets and other sort of like hardware like that.

00:08:01.660 And that they were thinking that this is too much of a conflict of interest.

00:08:05.220 So he actually recused himself from dealing with anything to do with anything aerospace, even if it didn't have to do with the company that he came from specifically.

00:08:15.080 And that's the problem we have with Carney's at every single topic that he had every issue that he tackles.

00:08:21.000 He's going to know three people who run companies in that area.

00:08:24.880 He's going to personally know the board.

00:08:27.200 He's going to have worked with people from Air Canada.

00:08:30.040 And so this makes it very everything he does.

00:08:33.460 And I'm not trying to be unfair to him.

00:08:35.200 Everything he does becomes a little bit suspicious when the liberals have a certain reputation for not moving fast when it comes to breaking up strikes.

00:08:43.280 And then they suddenly do when it's a company where Carney feasibly knows a lot of people who are still currently at the company, a lot of people who formerly been at the company.

00:08:51.920 And so I think that what I think the solution to all this is, is that what the conservatives had been suggesting, the man needs to sell his assets and have them reinvested in a true blind trust.

00:09:02.540 I believe he is around seven million dollars in Brookfield right now.

00:09:06.440 And people can quibble and say, well, that's not that much of a money when you compare it to people who are uber wealthy.

00:09:12.460 It's like, yeah, but it's a lot for him.

00:09:16.300 You know, that's that's the problem.

00:09:17.640 People could be corrupt for different amounts of money.

00:09:20.760 Oh, we know personally just from doing the independent media thing, like it doesn't take a lot of money to corrupt people.

00:09:27.820 And also sometimes it's not even money.

00:09:29.740 Sometimes it's just attention, adulation.

00:09:32.180 And yeah, like that's it's all it takes for some people.

00:09:35.660 So in Carney's case, it's again, how do you recuse yourself from things as a prime minister?

00:09:40.380 Yes, you can sell your assets and still put them in a blind trust.

00:09:42.840 But then there will still be all these relationships.

00:09:45.400 And again, does he turn around and hurt his friends in order to benefit Canadians?

00:09:50.660 Well, he didn't even live here prior to the election.

00:09:53.240 So it's not like he was a Canadian patriot in my in my eyes.

00:09:56.500 Anyways, you cannot overstate just how badly they screwed up the Air Canada strikes in the sense that it wasn't like it was the not ideal way of dealing with it.

00:10:07.140 It was the worst possible thing they could do, force, force people to go back to work with no promise that any issues are going to be fixed.

00:10:15.460 And then Patty Hayes, you the the jobs and families minister, comes out later after forcing people back to work. 1.00

00:10:23.580 Like I think Air Canada actually had to be the one to finally fix the situation by trying to offer some sort of mediation themselves.

00:10:30.920 But regardless, the she then comes up with a video saying we support workers.

00:10:35.840 It's like, oh, goodness, lady, this is just pouring so much salt on this wound.

00:10:39.680 How about you just just pack it in, take the L you they have revived the the NDP.

00:10:46.240 I think that is just unquestionable that the NDP got a lot of juice out of this particular situation.

00:10:52.280 And now the liberals are again, I cannot because the thing is, I keep hearing that Carney's a man with a plan.

00:10:59.160 He's politically like he's an astute political thinker, very intelligent.

00:11:04.080 And then when he gets when we're in this situation with Air Canada, the liberals. 1.00

00:11:09.680 They act like a bunch of not thugs, but they just act stupid, like they just act rashly. 1.00

00:11:14.840 It's an emotional decision. 1.00

00:11:16.000 Almost they do it in a second without even thinking about it.

00:11:19.480 And again, it goes against the character that Carney presents himself as is a very careful and deliberate economic planner.

00:11:27.560 And I addressed the whole the Carney perception about this super intelligent man with the planets.

00:11:33.360 I think the man has lived in a bubble for much of his life where he never had outside people challenge him.

00:11:40.240 He's usually been the guy, I think, at the table who was told, yeah, that's a great idea.

00:11:43.980 You're right.

00:11:44.780 And that's just not how it works in politics.

00:11:46.960 And all of a sudden, hey, I can't just ram through things because I think it's the best thing to do.

00:11:51.580 There's repercussions to my actions politically for not just me, for all my MPs.

00:11:57.480 And if this rolls down and then the perception is like, I don't think he's ever been really tested on a lot of his ideas.

00:12:05.580 I'm not I'm not.

00:12:06.460 He's obviously a sharp man. 1.00

00:12:07.780 But that being said, if you've read his book Values, you'd go, well, this is like a dystopian, idiotic. 1.00

00:12:13.120 Like, what kind of crap is this? 1.00

00:12:15.040 Like, have you thought through what this actually looks like? 0.99

00:12:17.160 So either he's so ideologically driven, which I'll address in a moment, that he just doesn't care or he really hasn't thought through these things.

00:12:24.540 And I don't think he's ideologically driven as this green elitist that people paint him out to be.

00:12:29.260 He's invested in oil and gas.

00:12:30.880 He's invested in coal.

00:12:31.960 They are playing both sides of this green agenda where, hey, heads, we win, tails, we win.

00:12:38.120 If they monopolize more and more of the market because of government policy that forces more and more small and medium enterprises out,

00:12:44.460 it only benefits companies like Brookfield that have their investments in big companies like that because there's less market for them to have to compete with.

00:12:51.680 And it's better for them.

00:12:53.840 Sorry.

00:12:54.220 I wanted to move on to what you're actually currently writing a new article about because I'd heard that and it sounded interesting to me.

00:13:02.340 And I was going to link up both the one you currently did on the connections between Carney, Brookfield, and Air Canada.

00:13:08.100 And then I want to link this other one.

00:13:09.620 But what's this new one about?

00:13:11.720 Yeah.

00:13:12.000 So just going through government grants and contributions, there's been $14 billion awarded.

00:13:16.520 I believe it started in 2024.

00:13:18.780 It goes into 2032 to Nexstar Energy, which is an EV battery production plant in Windsor.

00:13:27.900 Stellantis and LG combined on this.

00:13:30.520 But at the end of the day, I just point out, listen, that's $14 billion.

00:13:34.020 That's insane, first off.

00:13:35.760 Secondly, sales.

00:13:37.540 As soon as the government stops injecting money for subsidies for EVs and ZEVs, zero emission vehicles, the sales fall off a clip.

00:13:45.480 But people don't actually want these.

00:13:47.680 But when the government will subsidize, you know, 10, 20, 30% of the price, I think it goes, Quebec's program is up to $7,000 on, I want to say electric vehicles.

00:13:57.140 I'm not sure on that.

00:13:58.260 But they watch sales in Quebec, as an example, which drives the sales of the whole country, drop by 65% when the subsidies dried up.

00:14:06.400 People don't want these.

00:14:07.680 This is what drives me off the wall of whenever people act like Mark Carney is like an economic genius.

00:14:13.120 Yes, he actually did do a good job when he was the Bank of Canada governor because he was listening to Stephen Harper and Jim Flaherty because the governor of the Bank of Canada, you know, is supposed to be a seasoned person in finance.

00:14:24.480 But at the end of the day, they are supposed to align their monetary policy with what the government is doing.

00:14:29.760 So if Harper and Flaherty want to be careful going into the, oh, wait, financial crisis, and they don't want to inflate the currency and blow out spending and cause prices to rise, and they want to kind of ease, you know, put a little money into the economy to kind of be able to spur it, but, you know, keep it very low, much more minimal compared to what then Barack Obama proceeded to do in the United States.

00:14:52.560 You know, Carney did that, and he did a good job.

00:14:55.180 Once he becomes the Bank of England governor, he has all the answers now.

00:14:59.640 And then he actually ends up causing them a lot of problems that former Prime Minister Liz Truss has talked about, that he has all the answers, and he's going to tell you what, you know, well, that what the actual government's policy should be.

00:15:12.820 So he starts trying to run the government from reverse, where I'm going to tell you what my monetary policy is going to be, and you're going to align with me, or I'm going to throw you all under the bus and quit.

00:15:23.120 You know, because this is right after Brexit, and people like David Cameron are, you know, nervous to make any big mistakes after that.

00:15:29.760 And so, like, you know, then Mark Carney's effectively able to dictate a high inflationary spending type financial policy, because he sees that as really good for, you know, like the stock market, because he's like the Brookfield guy.

00:15:43.660 He's like the Goldman Sachs guy.

00:15:45.880 And by the way, there's nothing inherently wrong with any of these companies, other than I don't like companies just investing in government subsidized areas.

00:15:53.040 But the thing is that he almost has a very bubble-like view of, well, you know, stock market go up.

00:15:59.460 You know, when he's Justin Trudeau's economic advisor, it's not shocking that we have a very high immigration rate that pumps the GDP and helps the stock market, but it's terrible for the average person. 0.99

00:16:10.280 Yeah, that's the thing.

00:16:10.940 Just because your GDP is going up doesn't mean the average Canadian is going to benefit.

00:16:14.180 You know, you can increase GDP as the liberal government has over the last decade, barely, but entirely driven by immigration, and that doesn't help anyone.

00:16:25.320 That actually hurts a lot of people in the process when you just look to housing.

00:16:29.200 Job market is another example of all these things that are being affected by it.

00:16:33.780 But, you know, it's funny, back to the Flaherty and Harper thing, it's kind of like, to use a baseball analogy, Harper's the pitcher, and he threw a perfect game through Flaherty calling the game.

00:16:44.180 And Carney's over on first base, and he never touched the ball, but he gets credit.

00:16:48.000 Like, he's just there, but he's, even maybe a better analogy is he's not even on the field.

00:16:53.240 He's in the dugout writing down the stats of the game, and he somehow gets credit for that from the liberal side of the media.

00:17:01.500 And as was pointed out by the conservatives, yeah, no, you don't deserve credit here.

00:17:06.720 You were beholden to the ideas and strategy of Stephen Harper and Flaherty.

00:17:12.100 So, I guess pat yourself on the back.

00:17:14.500 But a better look would be what happened in England when he was the Bank of England's governor and what they had to say about what he did there.

00:17:21.960 And the reviews weren't great.

00:17:23.460 And going on to that, more of that battery issue, the thing that, again, gets under my skin about this is that you're going to have a lot of people thinking, oh, look at all these companies moving into town.

00:17:35.160 Oh, look at all these new battery plants.

00:17:36.920 And, you know, by the way, Brookfield has several investments in battery companies.

00:17:41.100 I'm not saying it's this one, but it's like every single thing.

00:17:44.320 You just look at the investment list at Brookfield.

00:17:46.800 It's like these are the areas of the economy where even if it's not Brookfield run, this is the companies, the type of companies that Mark Carney appreciates the most.

00:17:55.020 Which is, I think, the ideological side of Mark, that he likes battery plants.

00:18:00.080 He likes solar and wind.

00:18:01.240 And he likes, you know, EV vehicle manufacturing plants being put into, like, Windsor.

00:18:05.960 It's just like we're having an economy that's driven by his personality.

00:18:10.760 Much the same way that kind of Trudeau drove the personality almost in a childish way of what companies he likes, what industries he likes and doesn't like.

00:18:19.260 But this is not how you build an economy.

00:18:22.440 If the government money, yes, sometimes the government gives out a loan to bring in a big company to set up shop here.

00:18:30.980 But if they're only going to be here in the long run because you keep writing checks, it's fake jobs.

00:18:37.800 You are creating fake jobs to create products that nobody wants unless they're also able to write them off their taxes, which that's oftentimes what we do with EV vehicles in Canada.

00:18:48.840 Now we have this EV mandate that at least the conservatives are pushing back on.

00:18:53.780 And I always, I hate one of the people when you start talking about the EV mandates.

00:18:57.500 They're like, oh, so you don't think people should buy EVs?

00:18:59.480 You don't think people should be able to buy EVs?

00:19:01.220 Like, what are we talking about?

00:19:02.760 It's a mandate.

00:19:03.500 I think people should be able to, you know, get gas and diesel fueled cars.

00:19:07.800 Well, let's go to the heart of that because now I'm fired up.

00:19:10.520 This is exactly the point on corporate welfare.

00:19:12.800 You're picking and choosing arbitrary winners and losers every time you do this.

00:19:16.720 Every time you do this, you're disincentivizing true innovation.

00:19:19.800 And let's back this up here on this EV thing.

00:19:22.960 If it is so appealing to have EV manufacturing here in Canada, why weren't the automotive manufacturers lining up to get into the market? 0.94

00:19:31.400 It turns out they think it sucks.

00:19:34.020 And if you look at the sales, if you look at what happened in Cami recently, what is it? 0.85

00:19:39.220 The Lightbrite?

00:19:40.320 I can't remember their EV.

00:19:41.720 They just laid off 500 employees.

00:19:43.280 They sold less than 300 vehicles in three months.

00:19:46.140 Nobody wants these.

00:19:47.340 By the way, they lay people off at the same time they're still getting subsidies and tax breaks.

00:19:54.020 We don't even get any real solid commitment from these companies to keep people employed if we're going to be giving them money.

00:20:01.160 Like, they end up just obviously using that money for other things in the company.

00:20:05.920 And then they just fire people.

00:20:07.260 And then we, like, there's no expectation that if we're going to give you...

00:20:11.340 There's no recourse.

00:20:12.640 There's no recourse to the taxpayer.

00:20:14.020 If we're going to give you millions, if not billions of dollars, you better keep people employed at the very least.

00:20:19.640 Goodness.

00:20:20.760 You know, I don't care if you want to retrofit your corporate offices.

00:20:25.760 I really don't care if you have some other sort of, like, if any of these companies have a DEI program and then they fire people at the same time we're giving them billions of dollars.

00:20:34.640 I'm like, goodness, that's called fraud.

00:20:37.360 But, and then you live in Saskatchewan, too.

00:20:40.260 So I assume that you're not super excited by, you know, them trying to shift people over to electric vehicles.

00:20:47.280 Okay, and I defended Pierre Pagliot on this because he's 100% right.

00:20:52.200 When he says the banning of gasoline-powered vehicle sales by 2035 will lead to the end of rural life, he is 100% correct. 0.99

00:21:01.340 Because if you live truly rural, even not, like, that rural, like, I'm 30 minutes from the nearest town.

00:21:06.540 There's no transit out here.

00:21:07.820 There's no taxis that will come out here.

00:21:09.360 And furthermore, I have never been able to afford a new vehicle in my life or put something on payments.

00:21:14.560 Now, the used vehicle market over the next 20 years is going to look more and more electric.

00:21:19.320 And go look right now how many electric vehicles are for sale.

00:21:22.420 I think I've seen 18 in the entire province of Saskatchewan last time I looked.

00:21:26.500 There's not a lot of them, and none of them were affordable in my price range.

00:21:29.940 I'm driving a 21-year-old vehicle right now.

00:21:32.480 They're all being driven in Saskatoon and Regina as well.

00:21:35.800 Yeah, and I'm driving a 21-year-old Toyota out there with 370,000 kilometers on it.

00:21:40.980 It still runs like a top.

00:21:42.500 I think that's better for the environment to keep that bad boy ticking, not drum up all this new rare earth that's required and all the manufacturing materials.

00:21:51.260 Let's just keep that going as long as possible.

00:21:53.240 By the way, have we increased the grid capacity of any of our cities enough that we can just have everyone plugging in Cybertrucks?

00:22:00.380 Yes, and to make another point about Tesla, I know that people can point to, well, you know, Tesla isn't a successful company, and they sell EVs.

00:22:07.520 And a few successful companies in an industry does not prove that the industry has the capacity to be at the size that it currently is.

00:22:16.640 Even Tesla arguably wouldn't be as big unless they had the green, the electric veal subsidy in the United States and in other countries, where if you buy a Tesla, you get to write off like $15,000 of it off of your taxes.

00:22:29.920 I'm not sure if it's that much, but I remember it was a pretty massive portion of the cost of the vehicle.

00:22:34.080 Even with Tesla, though, let's say that generally if you got rid of all these subsidies, it would still be a pretty successful company.

00:22:42.200 Okay, that doesn't prove that this is an area of the economy where you need dozens and dozens of companies creating their own EV vehicles and trying to sell them on the market.

00:22:52.380 There are niche products.

00:22:53.960 There are niche industries that serve a niche audience.

00:22:56.860 You can't take a niche product and try and make it mainstream.

00:23:00.660 Look at all the failed products of the 1980s and 90s trying to sell like really strange computers on an open market that the general public did not want.

00:23:09.320 You know, you had to wait a while before you made a computer that was actually usable by people who aren't accountants or computer, you know, people who code.

00:23:19.560 And again, with the grid, we're going to have brownouts.

00:23:23.340 We're going to have blackouts if you end up having to have, you know, I believe when you actually charge a car, it's like more than your own in your entire house for like multiple days of power usage.

00:23:34.560 Yeah, you don't have your car plugged in every day, but it's crazy how much power it takes.

00:23:39.040 You know, on that rolling blackouts and brownouts thing, it was actually I think when Trudeau was in government 2021.

00:23:44.740 I did an article on this futures came.

00:23:47.860 I can't remember who put it out, but it was a government agency that put out they they foresee potential rolling blackouts as a result of climate change and trying to reduce carbon footprints.

00:23:59.800 So I don't know if they think these two are hand in hand.

00:24:03.020 They didn't point out that.

00:24:03.940 But it does seem like energy insecurity is in the plan or at least how they foresee the future.

00:24:12.200 And it definitely doesn't need to be this way.

00:24:14.060 And what's frustrating is we live on the richest we're in the richest nation on Earth and we're watching it be pulled apart piece by piece.

00:24:21.480 Nothing's being developed.

00:24:22.880 There's no reason Canada can't have its cake and eat it, too. 0.72

00:24:25.420 We could have the best socialized health care in the world.

00:24:27.360 We only get 40 million citizens.

00:24:28.760 Think of how much money is underneath their feet, but 10 years of this government refusing to do anything in the name of some green ideology that is absolute nonsense to anyone who actually looks objectively at what they're saying.

00:24:40.620 Look up Toxic Lake in China.

00:24:42.080 Where's your EV battery minerals come from?

00:24:44.980 They come from places like that where they don't give a rat's, you know what I mean, about environmental regulations. 0.98

00:24:50.940 Yet we're supposed to applaud the government and give paths on the back because they want to spend $14 billion on corporate welfare to bring in a company to produce this garbage. 0.61

00:25:01.600 And so I think with that, I'd love for you to tell people what else you're working on and I'd love to have you back on.

00:25:09.780 But yeah, we should have you on just to talk about the EV stuff and all the green tech subsidies when your next article is officially out.

00:25:19.080 But where can people find you?

00:25:21.240 Yeah, I would love to do that.

00:25:22.740 Yeah, you can find my work at divergemedia.ca.

00:25:25.080 I think we're on Twitter as divergemedia underscore or something.

00:25:29.160 You'll find us, divergemedia.

00:25:30.320 Look for our logo, purple D with I think the maple leaf in between it.

00:25:34.720 If I got the upper version.

00:25:35.800 Sometimes I love your website and the maple leaf is not there and sometimes it's there.

00:25:39.300 You know, Greg becomes patriotic depending on the day of the week.

00:25:42.520 I just don't know enough to go into the back end and fix a lot of it.

00:25:46.000 That's what it comes down to. 0.98

00:25:47.020 I suck with computers. 0.97

00:25:49.260 No, but thanks for coming on.

00:25:50.280 I'll have your two articles linked in the description below this video as well as pinned at the top of the comments.

00:25:55.780 And I encourage you guys to all check out Greg's website.

00:25:58.700 He's probably one of the best researchers in Canadian independent media right now.

00:26:02.720 I kind of see you as like another Alex Zoltan and you even look like Alex Zoltan a little bit.

00:26:08.400 I think he's a little bit thinner and better looking, but I appreciate it.

00:26:12.160 Thanks for coming on, Greg.

00:26:13.800 And to everyone watching, thanks for watching.

00:26:16.240 Like, share and subscribe.

00:26:16.960 I will see you guys all later.

The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - August 20, 2025

Looking into Carney's Air Canada conflict-of-interest (ft. Greg Staley)

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