The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - May 26, 2026


Mark Carney Just Voted Against Protecting Your Property Rights

Topics
property rights vote
Hosted by
Wyatt Claypool
Mentioned
Cowichan Mark Carney Pierre Poilievre Dallas Brody Pierre Pauly Speaker Chris Workington Prince George Shakao
Liberal revolt against Carney pushes him to Kill his own Pipeline Plan! Carney’s Massive Blunder： Tells Alberta No 50+1 Vote… Now Quebec is Enraged

Episode Stats


Length

14 minutes

Words per minute

171.12

Word count

2,527

Sentence count

93

Harmful content

Toxicity

6

sentences flagged

Hate speech

9

sentences flagged


Summary

Summaries generated with gmurro/bart-large-finetuned-filtered-spotify-podcast-summ .

Aboriginal title issues have been a long time coming up in Canada, and finally the Conservative Party of Canada has finally picked up the ball and started pushing back against the Liberal Government on the issue of Indigenous land claims. Today's episode is all about the Prime Minister's decision to vote against defending Crown land and public property in the Cowichan case against Indigenous title claims.

Transcript

Transcript generated with Whisper (turbo).
Toxicity classifications generated with s-nlp/roberta_toxicity_classifier .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
Topics generated with Qwen2.5-3B-Instruct.
Hosts, guests, and mentioned names generated with spaCy (en_core_web_sm), reconciled against Wikidata.
00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here, and welcome back to the National Telegraph YouTube channel.
00:00:06.400 I thought we believed in elbows up in this country, but apparently we don't, because
00:00:12.240 Prime Minister Mark Carney and his Liberal government voted against actually defending
00:00:18.000 private and public property in this country from Indigenous banned title claims against them.
00:00:24.900 This is absolutely wild, but apparently the Liberal government is throw-throwing legal cases and putting Crown land and private property at risk.
00:00:37.300 I'm not even being hyperbolic. That is quite literally what happened here.
00:00:41.700 I have to give a lot of credit to Pure Polyev and the Conservative Party for finally picking up this title issue and not ignoring it just because there is so much sort of hysteria around challenging things to do with indigenous issues.
00:00:56.600 I'm sorry, a group being indigenous doesn't make their claims any more robust than anybody else's, and you should push back vociferously against any band that tries to claim large swaths of area as its land title, or oftentimes bands that are less than 400 people.
00:01:16.280 You don't just own something because an ancestor a long time ago walked past a rock every once in a while. 0.65
00:01:23.080 You have to have controlled the land to own the land.
00:01:26.920 The only entities that are allowed to control land that it's not using is the government because it's meant to manage it while no one else has actually purchased it yet.
00:01:37.300 But anyways, that's going down a bit of a rabbit hole.
00:01:39.180 I want to get into the clips from Parliament yesterday with Pierre Polyev pushing on the Liberal government over their bungling of the Cowichan case, and of course then I want to get into the vote that the Conservatives held that was quite smart, basically trying to wipe out one of Mark Carney's directives to the legal teams defending Crown land and public and private property, saying to not argue for Aboriginal title extinguishment, which we will be getting into what that means in just a second here.
00:02:07.640 But first, because this has to do with British Columbia, I would be remiss not to plug the fact that I and Dallas Brody with the 1BC party will be holding at least three big events in June, one in Kamloops on the 7th, one in Prince George on the 10th, and one in Kelowna on the 14th.
00:02:28.020 That is the 7th, 10th, and 14th of June.
00:02:31.700 Check out the events page that I'm going to be linking in the description below and pinned at the top of the comments.
00:02:37.080 If you want to swing by, say hi, and hear about the 1BC party, I absolutely encourage you to all do it.
00:02:42.820 And of course, if you like the channel, leave a like on the video, subscribe if you're not yet a subscriber,
00:02:47.240 and consider hitting the join button and becoming a member of the channel, helping make it more sustainable for me.
00:02:53.120 But first, let's now get into this clip of Pierre Polyev in question period yesterday going after the liberals on the Cowichan case handling, and then we will be getting into the vote that the conservatives then held.
00:03:06.480 Take, for example, the threat to property rights of British Columbians. This liberal government instructed its lawyers not to defend the property rights of British Columbians in the Cowichan case.
00:03:19.040 In fact, they're forbidden to this day based on guideline 14, which is still on the government's website from putting property rights first.
00:03:28.800 That case is coming up for appeal. People who paid for their homes and paid down their mortgages are worried about losing their most treasured asset.
00:03:36.280 Will they reverse themselves, vote for the conservative motion and defend property rights in court?
00:03:40.260 now basically what he's asking is because the liberal because directive 14 says that you're
00:03:47.540 not supposed to argue for private property rights above any other type of property on the private
00:03:53.700 property front effectively what the liberals are doing is what you call not arguing for
00:03:59.660 extinguishment of aboriginal title if an aboriginal band is claiming to have title over an area
00:04:07.980 Basically, they're saying that their title is equal or greater than yours, so you effectively now co-own the title.
00:04:15.060 What Polyev is saying is that you should be arguing that basically fee simple title or private property extinguishes any claim of aboriginal title because you're a homeowner who owns the land.
00:04:29.980 There is no other shared title past the person who owns the private property.
00:04:34.960 Now, the one thing Pierre Pauly and the Conservatives need to do, because in a certain sense, everyone's copying one BC leader, Dallas Brody, right now in actually taking this issue on.
00:04:44.460 Even the Conservatives in British Columbia, the BC Conservatives, eventually started copying Dallas and actually started making hard arguments against the way that the BC NDP on the provincial level were handling all of these title issues.
00:04:57.640 But you can't leave out public property.
00:05:01.000 Public property is the real prize.
00:05:02.900 Private, obviously, we don't want anyone's title being undermined for their own home.
00:05:08.060 At the same time, in British Columbia, the main prize is the public property.
00:05:13.560 It's the crown land.
00:05:14.860 It's where you can stop up resource projects and new utilities from being installed and
00:05:20.440 new developments from happening unless someone pays you money for consulting or whatever.
00:05:25.220 That's the real prize.
00:05:26.480 And we need to defend public property just as hard as we defend private property.
00:05:31.480 But we actually did ask Pauly of this at a recent event, and he did agree that public property should be owned by everybody and we can't have it be more owned by the Cowichan tribe or the Musqueam.
00:05:44.260 And by the way, we shouldn't be shocked that the Kearney liberals are totally fine with the way that they're handling these cases, since even without a case, they just signed over the entire lower mainland's land title over to the Musqueam, which is absolutely insane.
00:05:59.920 It's even worse than the Cowichan case.
00:06:03.280 The Honourable Minister for Crown Indigenous Relations.
00:06:07.980 Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
00:06:09.460 At trial, Canada defended the validity of fee simple title granted by the Crown,
00:06:14.580 and we will continue to do so on appeal.
00:06:17.300 That's why as far back as 2017, Canada argued before the court
00:06:21.340 that private landowners should be notified of the litigation.
00:06:24.960 This is why we supported Montrose's application to present evidence
00:06:28.820 that was not before the court during the trial which is occurring today we will continue to
00:06:34.340 pursue this matter where it belongs in the courts not on the floor of the house of comics you could
00:06:40.180 tell they knew this question was coming that was the most canned answer ever oh well in court we
00:06:45.220 defended uh the validity of private private property of fee simple title it's like okay
00:06:52.100 yeah yeah you said it was valid but the whole point is that you should be arguing that it
00:06:56.420 extinguishes any Aboriginal title claims. You cannot claim title over an area where someone 0.50
00:07:02.840 owns private property. Again, I think Aboriginal title is completely ridiculous and a concept 0.97
00:07:07.760 that needs to be extinguished entirely because it doesn't matter if you're trying to claim 0.94
00:07:12.180 private property or public property. I'm sorry, this completely disrupts an economy if you just
00:07:17.720 kind of passively have ownership and say over a piece of property that you don't even control. 0.99
00:07:23.160 just stupidity but again there's a big difference between arguing oh we we argue that private 0.99
00:07:29.140 property is valid in court okay big whoop did you actually argue that it exclusively has title right 1.00
00:07:37.160 that's what you need to be doing the honorable leader of the opposition they're bragging that
00:07:43.280 back in 2017 they agreed that they would inform british columbia homeowners that they might lose
00:07:49.680 their property. Mr. Speaker, British Columbians don't want to be informed they're losing their
00:07:53.200 homes. They want to be informed that their government is fighting to defend their property.
00:07:59.660 She says they'll debate it in the courts. They're not debating in the courts. They have a guideline.
00:08:04.540 The prime minister has a guideline on the government's website banning federal lawyers
00:08:10.380 from arguing that private property comes before every other claim. Will the liberals vote for
00:08:17.800 our motion reverse those instructions and defend property rights in court the honorable minister of
00:08:24.920 justice mr speaker as the honorable member knows the federal government has appealed the decision
00:08:31.720 of the superior courts because we believe it was incorrect yeah it's not that's not exactly the
00:08:38.240 strongest answer you could come up with yeah we're not trying to win the case but you can tell we're
00:08:43.280 taking it seriously because we did appeal of course they appealed what were they going to do
00:08:47.780 completely drop the ball in front of the public and just not defend property at all like obviously
00:08:54.400 they're going to pretend to defend it they're going to make some okay argument but when you
00:08:59.460 hide your best argument from yourself you're not really trying all that hard anyways now i want to
00:09:05.900 move into this quick video we won't watch all of it but it's fear poly of standing out with a bunch
00:09:11.060 of the mps from the lower mainland and richmond area uh before the vote on the uh before the vote
00:09:18.980 on the title issue or the the directive 14 issue my friends we're mere minutes away from a vote on
00:09:26.740 your property rights in parliament we have the conservative property rights team right here
00:09:32.340 we're all going to be marching into the house of commons to vote for a conservative motion that one
00:09:36.580 One, requires the government instruct its lawyers to put property rights first in the Cowichan appeal.
00:09:41.620 Two, requires the government ensure that there are no more agreements signed that do not have property rights protected.
00:09:48.880 Three, put together a parliamentary committee to study the legal, constitutional, and regulatory steps necessary to protect property.
00:09:55.980 And four, force the Prime Minister to publish a plan to protect property.
00:10:00.900 I want to quickly go to Shakao in your... 1.00
00:10:03.980 We probably don't need to actually go around to these people, so that's where I'm cutting it off.
00:10:07.080 The one thing is, I would say that the conservatives on point number two need to say it's both to protect private and public property. 1.00
00:10:14.740 Because what I suspect a lot of these indigenous bands are doing is that it's like a military tactic. 0.99
00:10:20.980 When you're going to try and, like, you want to take the oil fields. 1.00
00:10:24.920 But in order to make it easier to take the oil fields, you feign an attack towards a major city or towards a base or whatever.
00:10:32.560 You make the enemy go and defend that thing so that it's easier for you to just go and take the oil fields because there's so few people defending them.
00:10:40.520 That's what I think is kind of going on when it comes to the private property, public property thing.
00:10:46.340 They'll threaten private property by including a large area of private property in its land claim so that the government officials and the opposition parties all go around and they harp on about the private property without realizing the bans really want the crown land.
00:11:01.700 because that's where the real money is in terms of shaking down developers and utility companies
00:11:08.320 and, you know, resource projects and claiming mineral rights and stuff like that.
00:11:13.520 That is the real prize. Don't lose focus on that.
00:11:17.180 I know emotionally people get most freaked out about their own house because it's your house.
00:11:23.280 But at the end of the day, obviously, the bands probably have less interest in your house
00:11:26.600 than they do a potential, you know, copper mine that they can stop
00:11:30.880 or they can stop a new water treatment plant from going up as quickly unless you do all this
00:11:36.780 consultation and whatnot and you co-manage it with them. And also you owe some property taxes
00:11:42.720 to the tribe. This can affect people's private property. Absolutely. Sharing title of the band
00:11:49.140 is absolutely insane. But I'm just saying that the conservatives need to not focus on 20% of
00:11:54.120 the issue and they need to focus on the 80% as well of the public property as well.
00:11:59.580 But now let's move on to the result of that vote. I'm just using Chris Workington, the deputy whip's post on this. He said, breaking, liberals vote against our conservative motion to protect private property rights of Canadians. Mark Carney and the liberals have refused to defend private property rights in the courts, causing major uncertainty in British Columbia and set to spread across Canada.
00:12:26.400 conservatives will always fight for families and businesses facing uncertainty we will put your
00:12:30.720 property rights first and i did read that whole thing because it's a messaging slam dunk for the
00:12:35.420 conservatives that right before a lower mainland by-election they can go around saying we're the
00:12:41.400 only ones trying to make sure that you're not sharing your title with an indigenous band because
00:12:45.920 know this that although the couch in case is really bad it affects about a billion dollars
00:12:51.380 of property in that city from the Cowichan arbitrarily saying that, oh, well, this used
00:12:56.300 to be potentially a fishing village a hundred years ago. Ergo, we should have title over this
00:13:00.860 area. What's even worse than that case is the Musqueam agreement that the Bark Carney liberals
00:13:07.200 just flat out signed, no questions asked, giving the entire lower mainland's title to the Musqueam 0.80
00:13:15.220 band of only 1400 people led by the very the very corpulent uh wayne sparrow who is like the least
00:13:24.980 humble man you've ever seen when you actually see him talk about indigenous issues and what the 1.00
00:13:29.800 musqueam own and having you know sports teams fly into yvr airport and he's there greeting them and
00:13:36.600 talking about how oh welcome to musqueam territory and whatnot make sure you are a guest on this land
00:13:43.340 just a complete twit but Mark Carney and all the liberals voted against this uh I think did I have
00:13:51.860 this on screen when I was doing it I think I've just been reading it but yeah uh Mark Carney 0.97
00:13:56.020 voted against this the conservatives voted for it and yeah what a what an absolutely just terrible
00:14:03.580 look from the liberals on that one again conservatives make sure you defend public
00:14:07.980 property too but liberals not even defending your private property which should be the far
00:14:12.640 easier one to do. Anyways, with all that being said, thank you guys for watching this video.
00:14:18.320 Make sure to like, share, subscribe. Consider signing up for those 1BC events if you live
00:14:24.200 in the Kamloops, Kelowna, or Prince George areas. There's the events page I'm linking in the
00:14:29.260 description and at the top of the comments for you guys to check that out. And of course,
00:14:32.920 always consider becoming a channel member and hitting the join button below the video to
00:14:38.300 contribute monthly and make the channel more sustainable. Anyways, with all that being said,
00:14:43.180 thank you guys for watching and I'll see you all next time.