The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - May 02, 2026


Mark Carney’s Liberals Just Proved They Hate Transparency (Again)


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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here, and welcome back to the National Telegraph YouTube channel.
00:00:06.480 I need to tell you guys about a very serious issue currently playing out in Canada's Parliament right now
00:00:12.840 that I don't think a lot of people are going to take seriously right away, but they should.
00:00:18.800 This entire issue is around the idea of in-camera committee meetings.
00:00:24.340 Now, an in-camera meeting means that it is closed off to the public.
00:00:29.440 This happens all the time in government and other organizations.
00:00:33.060 Sometimes the things being talked about are sensitive and should not be seen by the public.
00:00:38.040 A great example would be if a public safety committee had to talk about a sensitive case
00:00:43.040 where people's names might be used that maybe the public should not know about,
00:00:46.660 and so the committee members will vote to take the meeting in-camera,
00:00:51.400 and so they can discuss it more openly.
00:00:54.200 But the Carney Liberals are now abusing in-camera meetings to just shut down the opposition from being able to question them in the public eye.
00:01:03.420 Now, they can say that the Conservatives can still just do their questions but in-camera.
00:01:08.920 What does it matter if the cameras are rolling for the public or not?
00:01:13.100 Well, it's because the Liberals don't have any shame.
00:01:16.540 If the conservatives are questioning them about something they're doing wrong, the liberals aren't going to care unless members of the public care too.
00:01:24.580 If members of the public can't see what's going on, they're naturally not really going to care as much about the things the conservatives ask questions about.
00:01:33.940 It's pretty logical to care less about things that you didn't even know happened.
00:01:38.540 You may know that Mark Carney's liberals recently got a majority from conservative and NDP floor crossers, and they used those powers in order to pack all the committees.
00:01:49.680 They added usually two or three liberal MPs to every single committee, including ethics and public accounts, in order so that they would have a majority on all the committees, and could basically shut down things like having the finance minister, Francois-Philippe Champagne, come and testify in front of the ethics committee about his massive conflict of interest with the Alto train project that the government just gave $90 billion to.
00:02:16.320 but they're just using in-camera meetings now to shut down all sorts of things. It was bad enough
00:02:22.780 when they were using their committee majorities to just say, Champagne doesn't have to come and
00:02:27.680 testify, or we're not going to hear from that witness, or we're just going to vote to kind of
00:02:32.780 expedite this discussion that we're having. That's already bad enough. It's already undemocratic
00:02:38.500 enough because the liberals didn't actually earn the majority that they are using to shut down
00:02:43.800 discussion. Now they're shutting down even seeing and hearing what is going on. I need to show you
00:02:49.480 how absurd it's gotten, and we of course have the liberal media pretending like it's no big deal.
00:02:55.420 Before I get into the first video I want to play here, I just want to remind you guys to make sure
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00:03:18.700 just makes it easier for me to do this channel every day. But now we are going to start off
00:03:23.820 with this montage from the CBC that they played of all the committees the last couple of days
00:03:29.780 going in camera. And I'm going to give you a bit of some historical context a little bit later in
00:03:35.260 this video because you will start to hear people on liberal like you know panels on the CBC start
00:03:42.080 to pretend like this is no big deal. It is a big deal, and do not let these people lie to you by
00:03:48.200 pretending, oh, these procedures have always been something in government. Oh, they've been used by
00:03:53.920 other governments before. Sure, but we need to actually look at the scale and how they've been
00:04:00.320 used. How much are they using it, and why are they using it? But here's a montage that the CBC put
00:04:05.780 together. In less than a week since the Liberals used their majority power to take control of
00:04:09.860 parliamentary committees and already they've used that power four times to turn off the cameras
00:04:14.540 preventing MPs from debating in public. Committee I'd like to move a motion to move the committee
00:04:20.100 in camera. I'm going to suspend while we change over to in camera meeting is suspended. With that
00:04:25.980 I move to to have the meeting in camera. I would like our colleague to explain to us why she wants 0.96
00:04:33.580 to go in camera. I would like to suggest that we move in camera. We will not be silenced this is
00:04:39.460 wrong mpj ontario has moved the motion that we move to drafting instructions those drafting
00:04:45.380 instructions happen in camera this was was strategically planned so that it looks a little
00:04:52.260 different to canadians but what i would like to say to canadians right now is that this absolutely
00:05:00.020 is again this is we have never gone there's a point of order please uh this is debate and uh
00:05:08.180 the motion is not debatable yeah so they won't even let people actually speak to whether or not
00:05:13.780 it feels ethical or not that everything is now going in camera i want to show you one instance
00:05:19.860 of this just the raw footage of it so you can understand how absurd this is this is the transport
00:05:26.100 and infrastructure committee it is absurd that this committee ever has to go in camera it's the
00:05:32.900 transport infrastructure committee it's not spicy stuff it's transport and infrastructure now watch 0.93
00:05:39.380 how fast this bugger goes in camera this see the full tape here and it starts recording right before 0.59
00:05:46.420 the committee starts like literally within seconds and it stops and the recording will stop right 0.97
00:05:51.700 when the committee wraps but it will basically have this screen on once they go in committee but
00:05:57.220 I want you guys to actually watch along with this. It is like watching slapjacks with in-camera
00:06:02.980 meeting rules. This meeting back to order. I have Ms. Wien next, Mr. Nozon, Mr. Barstow-Duval,
00:06:11.380 followed by Mr. Albus. Ms. Wien, the floor is yours. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I think the motion
00:06:17.140 that has just been moved by my colleague, Mr. Helloway, is really important. And as we have a
00:06:22.500 number of studies to consider and we want to be working well together as a team uh i i would like
00:06:28.180 to uh suggest that we move in camera so that we can uh discuss and schedule the uh the the work
00:06:34.020 ahead of us together okay thank you notice what the excuse there was why they had to move in camera so
00:06:40.500 so so we can work as a team uh just you know for it's for the work culture basically of this
00:06:45.140 committee they don't want disagreement because what's really the point of disagreeing with the
00:06:50.180 liberals when it's not on the record things being on the record matters a lot when you're a
00:06:54.820 politician because it's kind of one of those things where if a tree falls in the woods and
00:06:58.820 nobody saw it did it really even happen if you disagree with some liberal spending or an initiative
00:07:04.900 and it was in camera they can just play dumb that you've ever actually opposed certain things and now
00:07:10.180 you have to work even hard harder after the meeting to then talk about some of these things
00:07:15.540 But because it was in-camera, you can't actually specifically reference what happened in the in-camera section.
00:07:21.720 You have to find your own way of tackling some of these issues that may not actually have the information publicly available for you to speak on without the tape of the committee.
00:07:31.800 It's ridiculous what's going on here.
00:07:34.060 Oh, and she's just like sitting there, oh, well, perhaps, perhaps we could maybe just, you know, throttle democracy a little bit and go in-camera.
00:07:43.900 has anyone ever thought about doing that it's like what are you what is this he's like you know
00:07:49.060 slowly getting into a jacuzzi in terms of this in camera stuff would it be um uh um uh possible for
00:07:56.040 us to um you know smother democracy here for a second and not have anyone knowing what's going
00:08:01.220 on the transportation and infrastructure committee perhaps it's embarrassing thank you miss wean i'll
00:08:07.660 I'll turn it over to the
00:08:09.000 Board of Order.
00:08:09.920 I move to go in.
00:08:10.900 Point of Order.
00:08:13.160 It's a dilatory motion.
00:08:14.560 But if you have a point of order,
00:08:16.560 I can hear your point of order.
00:08:17.700 Point of order, like the
00:08:19.100 member said, suggest that is not
00:08:21.000 moving a motion, Mr. Chair.
00:08:22.500 So I think we should, you should
00:08:23.540 rule it out of order.
00:08:24.340 You should let us have our
00:08:25.080 discussion because we will not be
00:08:26.940 silenced.
00:08:27.620 We've had where one liberal
00:08:29.120 member has occupied the committee
00:08:30.820 business for how long and to
00:08:32.420 simply be trying to close off and
00:08:34.260 to bring zero debate is wrong.
00:08:37.660 And I think that the government should reconsider this.
00:08:40.140 Thank you very much, Mr. Albus.
00:08:41.320 I do have a motion.
00:08:42.040 And this is in the context of in previous days of the committee,
00:08:44.480 it was pretty much just liberals talking the entire time.
00:08:47.020 Now that we are going to get into a discussion where the conservatives
00:08:49.620 and the Bloc Québécois MPs might be able to say something,
00:08:52.140 suddenly it has to go in camera.
00:08:53.560 Motion on the floor by Ms. Wien to go in camera,
00:08:56.280 which I'm going to turn it over.
00:08:57.360 Mr. Lawrence, I'm going to turn it over to the clerk, Mr. Lawrence.
00:09:00.300 So what is the point of order to go in camera to discuss committee business?
00:09:04.020 Is that the, or sorry, is that the motion?
00:09:05.600 that is a conditional it's not dilatory so it's open to debate it said she would like to go she's
00:09:13.540 moving that this committee go in camera which is a dilatory motion but if it's conditional
00:09:17.960 you can check with a clerk yep if it's a conditional going to camera going to camera
00:09:23.000 to do this or we're going to a camera because of this it is then or not no longer dilatory
00:09:28.080 she has moved to go in camera colleagues she's saying you're trying to do that is the context
00:09:35.140 we're playing this on mr chair i'm ruling that she moved to go in can you please consult that
00:09:40.820 and and if you do not agree with my ruling you can challenge the care and i invite you to do so
00:09:45.380 well did you i invite you to talk to dr lewis therefore i'm turning it over to the clerk
00:09:50.500 to challenge the chair the question is shall the decision of the chair basis and then this
00:09:56.980 just turns into a vote on whether or not they're going to go in camera and because it was a packed
00:10:01.300 liberal majority onto this committee naturally they just basically auto win here and what you'll
00:10:07.060 notice is around i believe it's like the three minute and third 40 second mark we're not quite
00:10:12.700 there okay by you know by about four minutes we're now in camera and by the way if i go all the way
00:10:19.960 to let's say an hour 29 we are still in camera that entire meeting was done in camera infrastructure
00:10:28.320 from public and public transit. That was all needing to be in camera. Why? Who knows? I have
00:10:34.820 no clue. What are they talking about their secret spy plans to build like tunnels under the cities?
00:10:39.260 Like what's going on here that people can't know about? It's just that they don't want the
00:10:43.440 conservatives to get clips. They don't want the conservatives asking them tough questions and
00:10:47.160 them fumbling all over themselves like they always do and looking stupid. So instead of looking 1.00
00:10:52.340 stupid, they're going to try and shut down the committees. But now we're going to move in to 1.00
00:10:57.560 some media reactions to all this i want to take you guys to the rosemary barton show on cbc where
00:11:06.020 they basically tut tutted this whole thing as like sensitive conservatives oh don't you know
00:11:10.840 conservatives have done this in the past okay whatever guys where one liberal member has
00:11:16.860 occupied the committee business and to simply be trying to close off and did bring and i
00:11:22.580 The Liberal House leader says the committees are working well.
00:11:26.780 Committees are masters of their own agenda.
00:11:31.220 We discuss issues every day.
00:11:32.980 There's going to be lots of debate, I can assure you.
00:11:35.320 Oh, they're masters of their own agenda.
00:11:37.860 Has nothing to do with liberal coordination that within like a couple days,
00:11:41.920 four committees just went in camera for the entire time pretty much.
00:11:46.460 I don't think any of them actually really made it through much business
00:11:49.040 before they went in camera.
00:11:50.600 This is obviously absurd. And especially you're only going in camera during periods of the committee's time when the conservatives could actually ask good questions on camera and ask you what's going on. Why are you spending money on this? Why did this guy get a contract? Hey, do you think that we should be putting money towards this while blah, blah, blah?
00:12:11.460 In a certain sense, transportation and public public transportation and infrastructure shouldn't be spicy. It might be a little spicy because they're jamming through the 90 billion to 200 billion dollar Alto high speed rail line.
00:12:27.280 You know, the one with the conflict of interest involving the finance minister and his wife that the liberals that hacked the ethics committee in order to avoid him testifying over. Oh, wow. I wonder what's going on here.
00:12:40.000 probably nothing they wouldn't lie to me.
00:12:43.980 So what's been made of the pushback,
00:12:46.140 committees going in camera, closing the doors,
00:12:48.200 not letting the public see the debate.
00:12:50.220 Let's bring everyone back, Chantal, Andrew, and Althea.
00:12:52.900 And I'm not suggesting that the public
00:12:54.960 is all sitting there watching committees all day.
00:12:57.460 But when we were talking about this in this bureau this week,
00:13:01.680 Aaron Wary reminded me that we saw a very similar pattern
00:13:05.200 during the Harper era, Harper majority.
00:13:07.720 A lot of this happened.
00:13:09.760 This is complete nonsense.
00:13:13.360 No, during Harper's time between 2010 and 2011, I think in 2012, there was a year where
00:13:20.220 the Harper government did have higher than normal in-camera meetings.
00:13:23.760 We're talking about like an hour a day.
00:13:26.120 You know what?
00:13:26.680 A bit high.
00:13:27.500 I would even say, no, you shouldn't do that, Stephen.
00:13:30.200 Maybe they were discussing stuff around public safety or foreign policy or military procurement,
00:13:36.140 things that couldn't be spoken in the front in the public.
00:13:38.800 And the actual record holder for in-camera meetings was Paul Martin in 2004.
00:13:43.780 And I believe it had something to do with the minority government status, where there was so much horse trading kind of going along with who was going to let which policies pass because they didn't want to go to an election right away.
00:13:53.240 It was kind of almost agreed upon between the liberals and DP and the bloc that they didn't want people seeing them horse trading.
00:13:58.660 So they did a lot of in-camera meetings.
00:14:00.600 That was an hour, 55 minutes a day.
00:14:03.540 The liberals, over the past couple of days, did in excess of like three hours, four hours.
00:14:09.120 They had multiple meetings in a day that never actually saw the light of day. 0.97
00:14:14.560 No, this is, oh, well, you know, Harper, like a moronic colleague of mine, 0.96
00:14:19.800 let me know that Harper did something similar. 1.00
00:14:22.060 Shut up. It's not even similar. 0.97
00:14:24.460 It's not.
00:14:25.260 By the way, I don't like in-camera meetings, but even if Harper was abusing it in some way,
00:14:30.580 and bad if he was, that was an actual majority, a massive majority, he earned at the ballot box.
00:14:38.120 He didn't get five floor crossers to give him a majority to then stuff the committees and then
00:14:44.000 turn everything in committee or in camera. My goodness. 1.00
00:14:47.660 And the conservatives are pretty angry. It's happened four times this week
00:14:51.040 in four different committees. Althea, what do you make of it and what does it tell you?
00:14:56.180 Well, it's not just that the public cannot see what is happening, that we journalists
00:15:00.640 cannot see what is happening.
00:15:01.640 There's actually no historical record of what has happened, there's no transcript of what
00:15:05.560 happens behind closed doors.
00:15:07.200 So this is the reason why last week when we first talked about this, I said I thought
00:15:11.320 it was a bit rich, I don't remember exactly my words, but that the Liberals had added
00:15:15.120 two Liberals to every committee.
00:15:18.580 And basically the Liberals have given themselves the power to take over committees.
00:15:23.980 So the opposition doesn't even have the tool of walking out and trying to prevent quorum
00:15:28.740 from happening.
00:15:30.020 The Liberals can do whatever they want, and so the onus, frankly, is on Liberal MPs.
00:15:36.440 They have a responsibility.
00:15:38.480 They are not there to do the bidding of the government.
00:15:42.220 They are there to represent their constituents.
00:15:44.520 They're actually there to hold the government accountable.
00:15:46.540 They are not members of the executive.
00:15:49.380 Cabinet ministers don't sit on parliamentary committees.
00:15:52.420 And so they also need to serve as a check.
00:15:55.440 Now I understand the Conservatives have used committees to grant this.
00:16:00.740 Know what?
00:16:01.740 We are literally at the point where this move by the Liberals is so bad, despite Rosemary
00:16:06.140 Barton trying to come up with excuses about it, Althea Raj, who is not a reasonable person,
00:16:14.020 is somehow reasonable even on this issue.
00:16:16.260 Even she understands that this is bad, that yes, you can say the Conservatives have done
00:16:20.660 it before.
00:16:21.660 No, this is not even in the same universe as what the Conservatives had done in 2012 or even what Paul Martin did and the Bloc and the NDP did in 2004.
00:16:31.160 ...dives themselves to put clips on social media, to fundraise. Sometimes they've been quite obstructionist.
00:16:38.300 But some of the things that they suggested this week are entirely reasonable.
00:16:42.580 You know, like, for example, requiring PCO to provide regular updates on the Prime Minister's
00:16:49.620 ethics ethical screen on Brookfield, that seems entirely reasonable. And as Justin Truder used
00:16:55.380 to say, sunshine is the best disinfectant. So what why are they why would they I mean,
00:17:02.660 what would be the point of this tactically, Chantal, like, I just don't understand why
00:17:06.660 if you've got your majority, why and you have control of the committees, why the committees
00:17:10.820 can't just do their work so that people know what they're doing it's not surprising that rosemary
00:17:16.180 barton cannot put you know cannot draw a line between point a and point b while they are like
00:17:21.700 parallel to each other it's almost like they don't want the conservatives asking them questions or the
00:17:28.260 block asking them questions on the record that they do not want to answer it's almost like that's
00:17:32.660 what's going on rosemary has was she born yesterday every single day rosemary is born anew 0.99
00:17:39.220 and pretends to be stupid whenever the liberals are doing something wrong so government insiders 1.00
00:17:45.460 tonight would have you believe that all of a sudden and what four committees liberal mps woke 0.98
00:17:52.100 up with a personal initiative to do this i find that very hard to believe look at it it's like 0.91
00:17:58.740 rosemary my goodness throw throws it over to chantelle hubert you know rabid like the
00:18:08.020 president of the justin trudeau fan club pretty much and she's like oh i have a hard time believing 0.99
00:18:12.980 that the liberals woke up to this morning and all just decided they wanted to shut down committees
00:18:18.500 sorry this was organic organically they want to shut down the committees and go in camera
00:18:23.300 for no reason no reason that they could actually explain no explanation oh but i have a hard time
00:18:30.340 pretending that they were coordinating this you you do this ain't exactly a conspiracy theory
00:18:37.220 this is just saying they are incentivized to not let the conservatives and the bloc speak
00:18:42.180 because it could make them look bad because frankly they suck at governing and they don't
00:18:46.820 like questions that is the most basic explanation i can give to chantelle hubert and and the somehow 1.00
00:18:53.860 this woman is able to make a living writing and talking about politics in this country 1.00
00:18:58.980 It came on in every brain at the same time. But in any event, this is a dangerous thing to do for the government. I'm not going to go into accountability, but rather in this is a government that has a very fragile majority, one that can be questioned by some on legitimacy. 1.00
00:19:21.120 There will be by elections. If you are going to spend the time between now and then convincing Canadians that the reason you wanted the majority was to shut down debate, good luck, because one day you will start losing seats.
00:19:35.980 So even Chantal Hubert ended up recovering at the end there, pretended like it was ridiculous. Oh, this isn't being coordinated by the liberals. And even she's trying to give them kind of some advice that this is a bad look.
00:19:46.060 this is why i can't stand people like this there's a part of her brain trying to like 1.00
00:19:51.220 punch forward and be like chantelle idiot maybe this is unethical and but her like liberal 1.00
00:19:59.220 programming still wants to say oh well you know i can't see that the liberals were coordinating 0.99
00:20:04.040 this or anything and like rosemary barton like laughing oh yes as if that's ridiculous like the
00:20:09.920 liberals whatever collude to do something wrong they've never had a scandal in their entire lives
00:20:15.780 at least in my heart, they haven't. Anyways, I want to quickly jump over to this clip of Andrew
00:20:21.540 Scheer addressing what's going on here. And then this is probably a good time for me to wrap up.
00:20:26.000 But you guys should be aware of just how much of a bag of monkeys this entire committee fiasco is
00:20:32.120 turning into. Everyone is acting like, oh, it's so normal. Liberals have a majority. They can pack
00:20:35.940 the committees. No, they can just pack the committees. They made sure to give themselves
00:20:39.720 two extra liberals so that they can always have quorum. Because for quorum, you can't just have
00:20:44.460 like 50 you basically need like pretty much 60 rounding up in order to have the meetings so they
00:20:50.260 gave them enough so that even if the ndp and the conser or the bloc and the conservatives didn't
00:20:54.340 want to show up they still can just do the meeting anyways that the canadian people gave this
00:21:00.440 government at the ballot box this is not the way investment into our country no instead the very
00:21:05.040 first thing they did was stack the deck on committees to give themselves a majority to shut
00:21:10.420 down investigations and that's what we're seeing at many uh committees throughout this week the
00:21:17.380 this was not the power that the canadian people gave this government at the ballot box this is
00:21:22.100 not what canadians voted for this is an abuse of power that flows out of backroom deals and
00:21:28.820 and secret negotiations rather than power that was granted at the ballot box so it's it's it's
00:21:34.180 it's even worse that the Liberals are using the majority this way. We've seen ethics investigations,
00:21:41.860 investigations into procurement scandals, investigations into how you know studies into
00:21:48.500 how budgets affect various stakeholders in Canada all shut down or moved behind closed doors. The
00:21:54.420 Liberals have actually moved motions to turn off the cameras to stop the transcription and to kick
00:22:00.900 journalists and the public out of the room right now i need to quickly to show you because although
00:22:08.020 even the liberal pundits on cbc kind of know this is wrong this is the last thing i want to show you
00:22:12.980 guys before we wrap up here there are liberal partisans out there who love this who think
00:22:17.700 it's great when i initially played the montage that cbc had put together of all the times that
00:22:23.060 the committees had gone in camera this guy right here who represents what i would call like the
00:22:28.420 the Laura Babcock wing of liberal politics. Jason Pugh here says, watch, liberals moving committees
00:22:35.500 to in-camera so that they can't be used by conservatives to shoot their rage farming
00:22:39.280 fundraising clips. Good. They've turned QP and committee meetings into a gong show. Really?
00:22:45.740 Really? If they're just using this for clip farming and they look ridiculous, it's all for
00:22:52.800 fundraising, point it out. Dunk on them. If they're in the wrong, it should be really easy
00:23:00.020 to just dunk on them and show that they're stupid, that they're being obtuse, that they're 1.00
00:23:04.560 asking dumb questions. If you're wanting to shut somebody down who you are adamantly yelling about 1.00
00:23:12.320 being in the wrong, it means that you probably know you're in the wrong secretly. You know you're
00:23:18.220 in the wrong. That's why you want to shut down the other side. But this is what the liberals and 1.00
00:23:22.600 their supporters have turned into. Well, we can do it because we can do it. That's not exactly a
00:23:28.820 great way of running a country. Anyways, with all that being said, thank you guys for watching this
00:23:34.200 video. Keep an eye on this, I think, scandal in the making, because even though this is not like
00:23:39.980 the We Charity scandal, SNC-Lavalin, I think this should be a scandal if it continues, that
00:23:45.460 parliament borderline doesn't function because conservatives or liberals do not want to actually
00:23:50.780 answer conservative and block questions. That, you know, ruffles their suits a little bit. They
00:23:57.300 don't really like having to answer questions. And you're not going to have the media really
00:24:02.140 follow up on it. They're going to talk like Rosemary Barton there is the worst. This affects
00:24:07.520 her own industry. She doesn't give a crap. She's in the commentary business. She's in the liberal 1.00
00:24:11.780 propaganda business. She's never done a report in her life that wasn't already handed to her.
00:24:16.140 She doesn't know what she's talking about. She's the person who likes shutting down independent
00:24:19.540 media from answering questions. And you think that she's going to care about the liberals doing 0.98
00:24:24.080 in-camera meetings all the time to block questions about the alto speed, high-speed rail line,
00:24:29.500 or other areas of government where the liberals don't look that rosy in terms of their record?
00:24:35.060 My goodness. Anyways, with all that being said, like, share, subscribe, consider hitting the
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