The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - December 07, 2023


Maxime Bernier's PPC Are Not Living In Reality


Episode Stats

Length

17 minutes

Words per Minute

204.43602

Word Count

3,524

Sentence Count

192

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

1


Summary

Maxine Bernier is running for the Tory nomination in the upcoming leadership election, but she's not alone in her quest to become the next Prime Minister of Canada. In this episode, I talk about why I think she should have been in a different party.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 I know a lot of PPC supporters are immediately going to disregard this video because I'm
00:00:04.140 currently running for the Calgary Signal Hill Conservative Party nomination, but I think
00:00:08.600 it still must be said that the PPC under Maxine Bernier has been incredibly toxic to political
00:00:14.320 discourse in Canada, the way a lot of discourse that comes out of the NDP and the Liberals
00:00:18.780 has also been. Maxine Bernier, I think, has been doing a great disservice to his own supporters
00:00:23.260 in teaching them all the wrong lessons about how politics works in Western democracies.
00:00:28.460 You see, and this is probably not going to come as a great shock to many people, if you're
00:00:33.460 ever going to govern a country, it's likely going to be within a very broad-based party
00:00:39.600 that brings a lot of different factions together in order to achieve common interests. The
00:00:44.700 PPC is selling what I think is the dishonest populist dream that if you are hardcore enough
00:00:50.880 about the policies that you believe in and you basically call everyone else phony and
00:00:55.920 like is somehow corrupt if they don't believe in you, that you'll be able to somehow muscle
00:01:00.700 your way through to victory in order to win seats and be able to advocate for your policies
00:01:05.420 in Parliament. It's just really not how it is. Bernier knows better. He was in Parliament
00:01:10.740 for quite a while, yet he's trying to basically teach his own people that petulance, that sort
00:01:17.200 of hyper-purism, that's actually the way to making change. The funny thing is Bernier is not
00:01:22.420 a purist in any way. He used to be a very progressive Conservative Party MP, a little bit more libertarian
00:01:28.220 on economics, although go back to the 2017 Conservative leadership race, and he wasn't
00:01:32.600 quite sure if he was against the carbon tax or not. He's not a man who's ever been that
00:01:37.260 consistent on many issues, especially social issues, yet he's basically telling his own
00:01:42.180 people that the reason to distrust the Conservative Party is that they're not as consistent and
00:01:46.820 purist as him, a man who's never been consistent and is definitely not ideological pure
00:01:51.540 on many different issues. He has been sort of zigzagging between libertarianism on free trade
00:01:57.300 and open borders, all the way to stop mass immigration and institute economic protections.
00:02:04.160 And I think that, moreover, I think he's actually been rhetorically very toxic to the way that
00:02:09.640 his own supporters engage in politics. And I've been reassured he is the man who runs his own
00:02:14.920 Twitter account. I still have doubt that because I doubt Bernier is really looking up and saving
00:02:21.040 images of pure poly of memes in order to share them to try and mock Pierre. But a lot of this
00:02:26.300 stuff I find, and there's a reason why political party leaders and politicians don't share too many
00:02:31.800 silly, dumb memes, because you don't want to sort of lower the discourse around politics,
00:02:38.260 because it's not good for actually getting your own policies taken seriously. And it's not good for
00:02:43.800 professionalizing your support base. But this is actually something that Bernier has been sharing
00:02:48.600 recently, December 5. And he said, a vote for the morally and intellectually corrupt fake
00:02:53.520 conservatives is a vote for the liberal policies. If you want not just get rid of Trudeau, but also
00:02:57.640 get rid of liberal policies, you have to vote for the PPC. And it's like, like the idea that pure
00:03:03.320 poly of and Justin Trudeau are the same guy is patently absurd. Yes, if you really dig, you can find a
00:03:10.240 couple areas of policy where maybe the liberals and conservatives kind of agree, but you'd really have to
00:03:15.660 squint hard. Even the NDP and the liberals really don't agree with each other on that many issues.
00:03:20.800 They agree with each other in terms of the general aim. But in terms of the scope and the methods of
00:03:26.080 their policies, they're very different. And if you throw the Greens in there and some other smaller
00:03:31.200 parties, most of the parties exist for a real reason. And I'm going to say the PPC exists for certain
00:03:36.680 on certain issues that, you know, they're separate from the conservatives on some issues. And they're
00:03:40.980 definitely separate from the liberals on many issues. But like the conservatives and the PPC
00:03:46.080 line up on a lot of things. But Bernier's whole donation bill relies on you pretending or him
00:03:52.380 pretending as if the conservative party and the PPC are the two furthest apart parties in the country,
00:03:57.720 as if the conservatives are communists, and he's like a hyper libertarian party. It's just not how it
00:04:03.580 is. But I think stuff like this has really made the PPC sort of hardcore supporter, not people who
00:04:10.880 vote for them or people who've supported them in the past. But the hardcore donors and people who
00:04:14.800 are constantly grinding on about how much they love the PPC on Twitter and Facebook, these people
00:04:20.520 are being given a disservice by making it seem like the way you engage in politics is just purity
00:04:26.220 testing. It's mocking anyone who doesn't fully agree with you. It's not consensus building. It's not
00:04:31.420 door knocking in community engagement. It's just sitting on social media, telling everyone how right you
00:04:36.680 are and how wrong they are. Like I literally have talked to PPC organizers. And some of these people
00:04:42.300 in charge of elections, like the PPC election management, and EDAs and whatnot, they specifically
00:04:48.800 told me that they've never door knocked a day in their lives. On the excuse that, well, I've never
00:04:54.180 had my opinion changed at a door. Well, good for you. Have you ever talked to someone at a door? Most people
00:04:59.260 don't have their minds made up about politics. Go advocate passionately for what you believe in,
00:05:03.360 and then find out that most people don't talk the way that you do on social media. And people just
00:05:08.500 want a pleasant person to speak to. They're not looking for some sort of higher hardcore ideologue
00:05:13.620 to come to their door and badger them about why your immigration number is impure compared to the
00:05:20.140 immigration number I want. It's very, very silly. And so but you get to the point where Bernier is
00:05:26.340 posting stuff like this. And I guarantee you, 2010 Bernier would have never done something like this,
00:05:30.800 because it's kind of gross. But Bernier on October 7, when a bunch of Jews got massacred
00:05:35.300 in southern Israel said, some people have been asking my position on the ongoing conflict between
00:05:39.560 Israel and Hamas. It's simple. I don't want a single penny of Canadian taxpayers money to go
00:05:43.320 to support either side of another foreign war that has nothing to do with us. Now, I'm not going to
00:05:48.380 argue that you can't take the position or somehow it's immoral to say that, hey, let's just reduce
00:05:52.720 foreign aid towards any war. Right now, I think Canada's in the worst possible position,
00:05:56.580 where while giving money to Israel, which is fine, we're giving money to Hamas through a bunch of
00:06:02.200 quote unquote Gaza charities that obviously are just supporting the terrorist government that's
00:06:06.720 operating in that area. So Bernier can take his position, whatever position he wants on foreign
00:06:11.260 aid. But this idea that even Karen, that a bunch of people were massacred by a terrorist group
00:06:16.720 overseas would somehow make him a less of a purest Canadian patriot is, I think, a fairly disgusting
00:06:22.140 position to take. It's a very trendy populist position to say that if you care about any country
00:06:27.800 at all outside of our borders, well, then you're somehow not sufficiently patriotic and you're
00:06:33.760 somehow, you know, operating on behalf of the interests of a foreign regime. I really like the
00:06:38.600 country of Georgia. I don't think it's made me dislike Canada at all. I can like more than one
00:06:45.060 country at the same time. Obviously, my first loyalty is to Canada and I have some sympathies to other
00:06:51.440 countries, which maybe I would want to help out if they were ever in trouble. But overall, obviously,
00:06:56.620 that's not going to dull my respect for the country I live in and love. That's completely ridiculous.
00:07:02.320 But Bernier is going down is basically setting up these traps. And I think they're silly traps. I
00:07:07.300 think they're backfiring on him. But he's setting up these traps to so that if anyone else starts caring
00:07:11.680 about Israel, well, then I can accuse you of not caring about Canada. It's a disgusting take. And it's
00:07:17.440 turning to border a little bit on the anti-Semitic when you actually read some of the what his
00:07:22.680 supporters say about people who at all have sympathies towards Israel. But this is what you
00:07:27.500 get with. And also, I think that the PPC has gotten their own supporters to also start assuming that
00:07:33.280 certain issues that they run on are like the only issues in Canada. Here's their candidate for Durham,
00:07:39.420 who's up against Jamil Javani, the conservative candidate, who's actually a fantastic candidate,
00:07:43.360 very solid fiscal and social conservative. I 100% would vote for him if I was in the riding.
00:07:48.540 But you have this Patricia Collins lady, who I'm not saying she's a bad person anyway, not like far
00:07:53.320 from us. But she's like pushing like this stuff. And it's December 5, pushing, it's simple acts of
00:07:59.160 acts. Well, okay, sorry, one, also two, aren't you guys supposed to be libertarians? Aren't people
00:08:03.320 supposed to be allowed to do what they want with their bodies when it comes to medication? Yet,
00:08:08.200 for some reason, we have to acts of acts. I don't know what that means. And also lady,
00:08:12.120 it's December of 2023. There's no mandates. If there is a mandate, fight about against that
00:08:17.500 specific one. But this is not an issue to be still stumping on. But PPC leadership has made it seem
00:08:23.240 like the only issues that matter are COVID era issues, immigration, and like not getting involved
00:08:30.560 in foreign policy, or like, you know, gender theory, which the conservative party is against now.
00:08:35.800 Well, so what's their deal? But they're going to say they're not sufficiently against gender theory.
00:08:39.420 They'll never be able to say how they're just going to say that they haven't yelled enough about
00:08:43.600 the issue. And that's also the problem with the PPC. They've basically convinced their supporters
00:08:48.240 that noise on an issue, basically reflects seriousness on an issue. At the same, at the
00:08:54.600 same time, the louder and more kind of not professional you are when you're talking about
00:08:59.580 an issue, the less likely you are to actually win on that issue. I see videos of PPC,
00:09:04.780 like, like, candidates like this Patricia lady going to school board meetings, and just yelling,
00:09:11.500 going on sort of like rambling speeches where she's really raising her voice. And it's like,
00:09:15.500 I understand her intention to do good. But a lot of it is attention seeking. And whatever she was
00:09:20.320 stumping for in that video I was watching, I can guarantee you, she actually made less people
00:09:24.800 likely to support what she's backing, because she seems a little bit kind of, you know,
00:09:30.520 too elevated about it. Like, especially this is why people, more people should go door knocking,
00:09:35.820 go and find out how most people talk about politics. Most people have a very small voice
00:09:39.680 when they talk about politics. They don't know too many details about it. They have a couple
00:09:43.740 things that they really care passionately about. They're not going to immediately tell you. And
00:09:47.480 through a very calm, pleasant conversation, you can learn a little bit about the person,
00:09:51.680 what they value, you can share what you value, and some interesting ideas you have when it comes to
00:09:56.260 policy. But the PPC does not have, is not training their own people to have the sort of character
00:10:02.400 that someone else can connect with. It's all about hot blooded online politics. But so you have this
00:10:07.180 Patricia lady also sharing stuff like this. It's like this meme that says, it's not about splitting
00:10:11.480 the conservative vote, it's about splitting the globalist vote. And hey, guys, if you don't want
00:10:16.040 people to bring up Bernie who went to the WF, stop trying to pretend like pure poly is a globalist.
00:10:21.220 He's been very clearly taking stances against the UN, going against the UNRWA, which is effectively
00:10:27.140 Hamas front group. And also he said that he's not going to let any of his cabinet ministers go to the
00:10:31.680 WF conferences. What's your point? No, but secretly, poly I'm still not purist enough.
00:10:37.440 Shut up. You're just wrong. You're just wrong. You don't know what you're talking about.
00:10:41.080 But then you have other people and like this, Joe's usually nice enough to me online. I'm not like,
00:10:46.080 again, trying to impugn anyone's character. But when you have people like this in the PPC,
00:10:50.120 who now just see parliamentary tradition as somehow corrupting, he's saying funny how the
00:10:55.400 conservatives want Fergus to resign. And this is in reference to the conservatives wanting Fergus,
00:11:00.880 Greg Fergus to resign as the speaker of the house after he was appearing at liberal donor events in
00:11:06.580 his in his robes, which is, you know, not something you should be doing because the role of the speaker
00:11:11.260 should be completely neutral. And you shouldn't be dressing up as the speaker to go to partisan events.
00:11:16.080 But he says then, after that line, Joe says, they seem to have no problem with him a couple of
00:11:20.680 months ago. And then the picture of Pierre Polyev and Justin Trudeau dragging Fergus up to the seat,
00:11:25.760 a parliamentary position that has been going on for hundreds of years, in which the two leaders
00:11:30.540 drag up the or the prime minister and the opposition leader drag up the speaker to go sit
00:11:35.360 on the speaker seat. The idea is that nobody actually wants to be speaker. So ha ha ha, we have to drag
00:11:40.360 him up. It's a it's a dumb, cute little tradition. But because that's it's too hardcore to have a
00:11:47.360 little moment that's kind of fun that involves Justin Trudeau. Like what was Bernie going to do
00:11:51.220 spit on Trudeau, you know, slap Fergus? No, he's not. If he was the opposition leader, he'd go along
00:11:57.160 with it too. And guess what? Good for him. He should take part in the tradition. It's actually good to
00:12:02.060 have a couple traditions between MPs. So they don't hate each other's guts at all times. And so like
00:12:06.920 you're allowed to advocate for your position strongly and not absolutely spit on your other
00:12:13.700 parliamentary colleagues. But Bernier, again, and the PPC leadership have basically told their own
00:12:20.980 people that like the politics is always about the fight. It's about fighting at all times. You got
00:12:25.260 to get online. You got to fight. You got to not go to the doors because that might be useful. But
00:12:29.080 whenever you see someone in real life that you disagree with, you got to fight. You got to go to a
00:12:32.080 school board trustee meeting and you got to fight. Don't actually campaign so you can win seat,
00:12:36.260 but you got to fight. It's very, it's just kind, it's against the same thing the liberals and the
00:12:41.640 NDP do. Whenever something like parental rights comes up, they fear monger about it. Someone's
00:12:46.720 taking your rights. Oh, everything's always a fever pitch about the conservatives trying to crack down
00:12:51.120 on whatever group's rights or whatever. It's always about there's constant chaos going around.
00:12:56.340 There's secretly people always out to get you. And the PPC kind of does the same thing about
00:13:00.660 there's secretly someone always out to get you, which creates a lot of paranoia and pessimism.
00:13:04.900 I find that there is a lot of PPC supporters who are very open to sort of strange beliefs about
00:13:10.040 policies where the facts just don't go. I don't like a lot of liberal policies, but I always find
00:13:15.000 that a PPC sort of influencers take on the policy is the least useful one in arguing against it.
00:13:22.380 There's usually, usually the most simple way of arguing against the policy is the best way to do so.
00:13:26.760 But sort of if this has turned into a bit of a rant, I just always see a lot of these
00:13:31.060 PPC posts as I'm going by on Twitter and or X, I guess. And I always just find it's just like,
00:13:38.040 I don't understand how this party is still taking money at this point, like I said before,
00:13:42.780 or maybe I said in a different take and I forgot, but like the PPC in my mind has basically become a
00:13:48.340 big donation scam. Like give Maxine Bernier hundreds of thousands of dollars. I think they almost have
00:13:53.100 like a million dollars in 2023, hundreds of thousands of dollars to what? Well, are they
00:13:58.100 signing up new members? Are they starting their EDAs? They keep having EDAs get deregistered because
00:14:02.580 there's nobody actually managing them. Are they going to, you know, concentrate their forces to
00:14:07.280 win a writing? No. Well, that's how like they, they should seriously take a page out of Elizabeth May's
00:14:13.060 book. The Green Party, when they wanted a writing, they found a writing where they did a little bit of
00:14:18.780 research. They found that there was a little bit of an opening to a third party
00:14:22.680 that kind of Vancouver Island area is actually kind of like, if I was to compare it to an American
00:14:27.740 state, a lot like Minnesota. Minnesota has elected kind of these democratic socialists in the past.
00:14:33.320 They've elected very conservative people. They elected Jesse Ventura because they're kind of open
00:14:37.080 to that third party type of a candidate. Vancouver Island was the same. This was literally a formally
00:14:42.420 reformed alliance writing that Elizabeth May won in like Guelph or not Guelph, something in the
00:14:48.340 Saanich Islands. That they knew what they were doing and they concentrated all the Green Party's
00:14:53.120 volunteers and forces and money into that writing. They literally had Green Party USA volunteers fly
00:14:58.760 out to Victoria to come and help Elizabeth May. They knew what they were doing. Bernier did not do this
00:15:04.480 in Boast back in 2019 and then failed to do it again in 2021. And even when he ran in that writing
00:15:10.460 to that after, I forget what it was called again, but it was Candace Bergen's writing, Brandon Leslie
00:15:16.580 ended up winning it. Bernier showed up and he can, he gave the appearance of seriousness because
00:15:20.960 as the rip dropped, he immediately said he was running for that writing as the PPC candidate
00:15:24.980 and started driving around campaigning, hosting events. And it looked like he was campaigning
00:15:28.900 really hard. And I don't doubt that during that couple of months, he was campaigning for decently
00:15:33.240 hard. The problem is we knew Bergen was stepping down. There was a conservative nomination race for the
00:15:39.460 longest time to replace her. And, you know, Bernier just didn't show up until it was a little bit way
00:15:45.180 too late for him to actually make any impact in that writing. He could have been there as soon
00:15:49.360 as he knew that Bergen wasn't going to run again and there was going to be a by-election.
00:15:52.740 He basically showed up the last minute, campaigned for a month and a half, which is really not that
00:15:56.660 much work considering the fact that he's not working the rest of the year. He loses and then
00:16:01.540 he declares he might run there again. I think he kind of lives in the riding, which I guess is
00:16:05.360 somewhat progress. But again, he could have done this in Boast and he's not going to win this time.
00:16:09.900 It's just not a riding that's going to vote for a guy like Bernier, who has a bad record
00:16:13.840 on socially conservative issues. Anyways, regardless, that's finally it for me today.
00:16:19.300 You can donate to my legal fund in the description below. It's the give, send, go link. I have a
00:16:23.380 billionaire suing me. It's a nonsense defamation lawsuit that billionaire type people throw out at
00:16:29.380 people even when they have zero case. I'm winning it currently. My questioning went fantastic.
00:16:34.700 His questioning went awful from my opinion or my perspective. And then I also had the link to my
00:16:41.340 campaign site for Calgary Signal Hill. So if you live in Calgary Signal Hill, buy a conservative
00:16:46.240 membership and then vote for me as number one on your ballot when the nomination probably comes up
00:16:51.900 in the next few months or so. Other than that, I'll see everyone in the next video. I really didn't
00:16:56.980 expect this video to go on past 17 minutes, but I don't know. Once you start, once you wind me up,
00:17:02.840 I start ranting. Not really ranting, I guess. But now I'm starting to talk to myself about whether
00:17:08.660 or not I'm ranting or rambling. I'd say rambling. Anyways, now I'm finally actually going to end the
00:17:13.580 video. Bye.