The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - March 16, 2024


Maxime Bernier's PPC has turned into a scam party

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Maxime Bernier Erin O'Toole Richard LeHoux Justin Trudeau Brandon Leslie John Brennan Jamil Giovanni Deborah Gray Patricia Collins Pierre Poilievre Elizabeth May Alex Cargill Simon Webb Wyatt Tons
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Maxime Bernier's People's Party of Canada is a scam, and it's time to call it out for what it is. In this video, I discuss why I think the PPC are a scam and why Bernier should not even bother to run for office.

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00:00:00.000 I knew I was eventually going to have to make a standalone video on this topic. I've talked about it on stream before, but I wanted to address in its own video why I think Maxime Bernier's PPC is effectively just a scam these days.
00:00:13.580 And I'm saying this as someone who literally voted for the People's Party of Canada back in 2021. Aaron O'Toole was not a real conservative, so I did not support him in the election against Justin Trudeau because I actually thought it would have been better, and I think it's been proven to have been better, for Aaron O'Toole to lose, Justin Trudeau to hold on to his minority government for a little bit longer so that we could re-roll the dice on a leader and get someone like Pierre Polyev instead of O'Toole.
00:00:38.960 O'Toole was awful, and I'm very happy to see him go, and it's great that Jamil Giovanni has taken his place in the riding of Durham.
00:00:46.040 Jamil, despite what PPC influencers will say, is actually a very strong conservative, both on fiscal issues as well as social issues. 0.96
00:00:52.860 But I'm making this video, and what inspired me too was PPC influencers making really unhinged rant videos and social media posts on Twitter yesterday, basically trying to call all conservative party supporters stupid, naive, or somehow cowardly because they're not supporting the PPC. 0.75
00:01:10.720 You wonder why people don't support you? Maybe it's not only because your leadership is incompetent, but you guys are kind of horrible people whenever you're trying to convince them to vote for you. 0.98
00:01:18.780 You basically just insult people into trying to vote for your party, which I'm not sure if you guys have seen Justin Trudeau's marketing recently. 0.96
00:01:25.800 It doesn't work. You can't talk down to people and expect that they're going to take you seriously.
00:01:30.900 But anyways, I'm not calling the PPC a scam for sort of typical reasons you sometimes see from conservative supporters.
00:01:36.980 I don't agree with these reasons. People say it's because they're working for the liberals.
00:01:41.760 They're trying to split conservative party votes on behalf of Justin Trudeau and the Liberal Party.
00:01:45.620 That's not it, guys. I actually think that vote splitting in most cases is not an actual issue.
00:01:51.460 People are not voting for the PPC, but they would have voted for the conservatives if the PPC wasn't there.
00:01:57.140 People vote for the party they want. There are very few instances in Canada of real vote splitting,
00:02:02.820 especially vote splitting from a party that's only set up to try and split the vote.
00:02:06.860 That happened in Ontario in 2022 between the New Blue Party and the Ontario Party.
00:02:11.740 The Ontario Party was effectively just set up to try and hurt the New Blue Party, but that's another story for another day.
00:02:17.840 The reason I say the PPC is a scam is because Maxime Bernier, at least to me, has never actually seen like he really wants to win a seat in Parliament.
00:02:27.380 In fact, he seems to do things on purpose in order to not win a seat in Parliament.
00:02:32.240 And then you might be thinking if you're a PPC supporter, well, why would Bernier want to do that?
00:02:36.400 He would benefit so greatly by winning a seat. It would help the party out to win a seat in Parliament.
00:02:41.420 Well, Maxime Bernier is notoriously lazy. He does not like working hard.
00:02:46.520 And think about it. He already gets a $114,000 salary from the PPC and expenses a lot of his travel and food to the party as well.
00:02:55.240 He already is actually making pretty good money these days.
00:02:58.180 Plus, he will get his federal pension later.
00:03:00.180 So why go back into Parliament when it would actually only delay you getting your pension?
00:03:04.960 And I don't think he's doing this just for financial reasons.
00:03:07.060 I think it's just that he doesn't really know what to do if he wins a seat.
00:03:10.960 So it's better to just not win a seat.
00:03:13.500 And when I say he's trying to not win a seat, a lot of people will say, well, I keep seeing him campaigning really hard for different elections he's running at.
00:03:20.680 Sure, anyone can put on a good display.
00:03:22.840 I could start up the Wyatt Claypool party and I could go all around Canada door knocking, handing out literature, and really looking like I'm trying hard to try and get into Parliament.
00:03:32.340 That doesn't mean that a person like Maxime Bernier doesn't know he's a smart man.
00:03:37.120 He knows that the way he's been running in these races is not a way that will ever actually get him into office.
00:03:43.800 And small parties have succeeded in the past.
00:03:46.280 The Green Party has a few seats because it figured out how to win individual ridings.
00:03:50.160 The Reform Party figured out how to win individual ridings.
00:03:53.680 In fact, Deborah Gray, their first MP, she ran back in the 1988 election, the first time Reform contested an election.
00:04:01.020 Reform in that election only got 2% of the vote.
00:04:04.560 I think it was like 2.1% of the vote overall, like 2.09%.
00:04:08.680 Deborah Gray, in the riding of Beaver Lake, I believe, only won 13.8% of the vote in their first contest in 88.
00:04:17.520 But then in 89, the by-election, she won 47% because Reform figured out who their support base was in these ridings.
00:04:25.420 They targeted them and they got them out to vote for them, as well as they converted over a lot of PC voters.
00:04:31.920 Now, with Bernier, he has not done anything in order to actually win a seat.
00:04:36.420 Even Elizabeth May in San Ishten and Gulf Islands, that used to be an alliance riding, conservative alliance riding.
00:04:41.540 And she figured out in 2011 how the Greens could win it.
00:04:45.220 They even flew in Green Party USA volunteers into that riding.
00:04:48.160 They concentrated all their support into that riding.
00:04:51.300 Bernier did not do that in 2019.
00:04:53.200 So when I say that PPC is a scam, they were effectively a scam since 2018 because Bernier had no plan to actually win a riding, even though he knows how to win elections.
00:05:02.740 Bernier, and I'll even just quickly bring you back to 2015.
00:05:05.460 He's always done very well in elections.
00:05:07.920 His lowest percent winning was 50%.
00:05:11.120 Bernier back in 2015, an election that was not very nice to the Conservatives, he won 58.89% of the vote.
00:05:19.360 That was very good.
00:05:21.300 Now, in 2019, he didn't even have a terrible outcome.
00:05:24.580 He won 28.37% of the vote.
00:05:27.200 Richard Lehoux won 38.59% beating him.
00:05:31.200 And you could say, well, that's a pretty bad loss.
00:05:33.200 He lost by, you know, 10.2% of the vote.
00:05:36.480 That's a very close election, though, when you actually think of the fact that Bernier, if he just converted 3,500 or 3,800 or so voters from Richard to himself,
00:05:47.320 and he could have even stolen some votes from the bloc, he could have won this election.
00:05:51.280 The reason I am now blaming Bernier for this loss is because he never campaigned in 2019 in votes.
00:05:59.040 He never did.
00:06:00.020 He was across the country in Saskatchewan and B.C., Alberta, rural Ontario, trying to win votes out there when he wasn't focusing on his riding.
00:06:09.060 He even spent more than Richard did.
00:06:11.240 He spent $92,000 on this race, where Richard only spent $88,000.
00:06:16.280 And money does not buy votes, but it does buy you effort on the ground.
00:06:22.020 Bernier should have maxed out the federally allowed limit on spending in his riding.
00:06:27.500 He should have stayed in his riding the entire time.
00:06:30.100 And frankly, he should have flown in PPC volunteers from every province into BOS because as a new party leader,
00:06:37.280 your first mission is to prove the formula can work in at least one riding.
00:06:41.920 That's where the Greens have been able to go from one riding to three, despite being a nutty party that's frankly, 0.86
00:06:48.980 like basically a bunch of anti-Semitic communists.
00:06:51.820 They figured out the kind of ridings that they can get out the vote for, and they target those ridings.
00:06:57.320 Bernier's excuse in 2019 was, well, we had a lot of support in rural areas, so I went to rural areas to win votes.
00:07:03.760 Okay, who cares about the popular vote?
00:07:06.080 It's a first-past-the-post system.
00:07:07.760 And then some PPC people will say, well, this is why we need proportional representation because the first-past-the-post system isn't fair.
00:07:15.260 It actually is fair because, like, geography actually should get a vote, that rural areas should not be overwhelmed by the large populations in cities.
00:07:25.780 This is why first-past-the-post is actually pretty fair because it gives rural areas a little bit more power than they would have in proportional representation systems.
00:07:34.060 Anyways, now moving on to, I'll bring it back up on screen, to 2021.
00:07:40.380 Again, a riding, a race, or actually, let's go to 2020.
00:07:44.180 I'll go in order.
00:07:45.200 In 2020, in York Center, Maxime Bernier only got 3.56% of the vote.
00:07:49.960 I don't know why he contested this riding as the leader.
00:07:53.540 This is a riding where the PPC never even ran a candidate back in 2019.
00:07:57.620 And I want to quickly show something on screen because you might be thinking, well, the leader's going to contest open by-elections just to keep the name of the party out there.
00:08:06.740 Sure, you could have just thrown in some random guy and it probably would have been better.
00:08:10.380 Don't embarrass your leader by throwing them into races.
00:08:12.800 They have no chance of winning.
00:08:14.320 But Bernier quite literally spent $27,000 trying to win 642 votes.
00:08:21.500 That's embarrassing because Bernier does not have a good ground game.
00:08:25.940 He's bad at door knocking and he's bad to one-to-one voter contact.
00:08:29.940 You'll notice he mostly just sticks to social media or doing rallies with people who already like him.
00:08:35.900 This is why rallies are not actual support.
00:08:38.440 Rallies are just the few hundred people that like you in an area showing up for a banquet or whatever.
00:08:44.440 That's not actual support.
00:08:45.760 It's getting the average voter to show up for you that matters more than getting your own hardcore supporter out to vote.
00:08:53.600 Anyways, I will then move on to the next election.
00:08:56.380 2021, he was again in Boast contesting the election and he lost to Richard LaHoe by an even larger margin.
00:09:02.980 He lost 10.17% of the vote since he last ran.
00:09:07.780 He only got 18.2%.
00:09:09.680 Richard LaHoe got 48.3%.
00:09:12.300 And so that actually shows that Maxine Bernie has some sticking power in this riding. 1.00
00:09:15.760 Bernier again outspent Richard LaHoe. 0.64
00:09:18.800 But again, Maxine Bernie did not show up in this riding the entire election.
00:09:23.680 He was out again in rural areas in Alberta, Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver doing rallies and not rallying in his own riding, not door knocking in his own riding.
00:09:34.880 And you could say, well, it's because Richard was very popular.
00:09:38.860 So Bernier decided not to contest this riding because he would have lost anyways.
00:09:42.800 Goodness.
00:09:43.580 It was a race where the PPC was riding pretty high.
00:09:47.640 And again, with just maybe 7,000 voter conversions from the Conservatives in this race, he could have won.
00:09:53.060 But it's not that hard to win, especially in boats.
00:09:56.000 This is actually an ideal riding.
00:09:57.620 He was the incumbent in 2018 or 2019.
00:10:01.940 It is a province where running against mass immigration is actually very popular.
00:10:06.300 He has spent more than the Conservatives.
00:10:07.540 He could have easily overwhelmed him with volunteers, and he chose not to.
00:10:12.300 He chose to go around in the country in places where he was not going to win.
00:10:16.740 Now, I want to go to the by-election in Portage-les-Garres.
00:10:21.400 And this is one where I've been told by PPC supporters, well, Bernier worked really hard.
00:10:25.880 And so it's not that bad that he lost.
00:10:28.520 Well, he literally lost voter percentages since the last election.
00:10:32.700 His Simon Wiebe, the PPC candidate in 2021, got 21% of the vote.
00:10:37.980 And Bernier lost 4.42% of the voting share to Brandon Leslie, who was taking over for Candace Bergen.
00:10:46.120 Remember, Candace Bergen stepped down from Parliament as the MP for Portage-les-Garres in February.
00:10:53.220 And then the by-election was in, like, June 12th or something like that.
00:10:58.180 That was the date of it.
00:10:59.360 Do you know when Bernier announced he was running this riding?
00:11:02.500 It was, like, May.
00:11:03.420 He was, like, he announced right when the race was being held, right when the by-election started up, like the actual writ was dropped.
00:11:10.240 He only started campaigning in May.
00:11:13.040 He knew the race was coming since February, and he only started campaigning 30 days before.
00:11:17.640 He could have been there for four months ahead of the by-election even being called in order to campaign.
00:11:23.920 He basically let Brandon Leslie have an easy five, six months of campaigning where he didn't actually have to compete against Bernier.
00:11:30.920 Because Brandon first competed for the nomination, spoke to voters, you know, interacted with people.
00:11:36.300 And then Bernier came in the last 30 days and said, vote for me because I'm more hardcore than Brandon.
00:11:41.440 And even then, he's basically lying the entire time, pretending he was pro-life when Brandon Leslie's actually pro-life and Bernier was famously pro-abortion for his entire career up to five seconds before that race.
00:11:53.440 This is why I think Bernier's party is a scam.
00:11:56.600 Bernier has had every opportunity to actually prove his party can work in a singular riding.
00:12:01.880 And all he does is he pretends like it's a proportional representation election and just goes around to ridings where the PPC is generally popular but does not have the infrastructure to win and just tries to get votes across the country but not in concentrated areas.
00:12:18.580 And another reason you'll look at the PPC and just notice how incompetent they are is look at the EDAs.
00:12:24.300 Their EDAs, their electoral district associations, are completely inactive.
00:12:28.160 That's why every once in a while you'll see a news headline saying 50 PPC EDAs got deregistered.
00:12:34.460 This isn't Elections Canada going after them and treating them badly.
00:12:37.660 These EDAs are not filing their returns, their financial returns every year.
00:12:43.200 And naturally, Elections Canada is saying it's an inactive EDA.
00:12:45.720 You guys are now dissolved.
00:12:47.900 And that's not them going after them.
00:12:49.320 That's just basic rules to keep financial fraud from happening.
00:12:52.740 And the PPC can't even keep these EDAs in place, yet I keep hearing how they have such hardcore support.
00:12:58.160 And if you have supposedly hardcore support, you shouldn't go from the general election in 2021 having 21% of the vote and a lot of votes that you got,
00:13:07.680 and then in the by-election, none of those people showed up because they really only showed up for you because they didn't like Aaron O'Toole.
00:13:12.980 That's why, since 21, all the by-elections, even in the one Bernie ran in, they've been down in terms of the percentage of the vote.
00:13:20.780 Happened in Durham again.
00:13:21.900 Patricia Collins ran for a call-in. 0.60
00:13:24.240 She ran for the second time.
00:13:25.940 She ran in 21, and then she was running the by-election. 0.65
00:13:28.420 So they even had signs probably made up for her that they kept since the last race.
00:13:32.360 She had higher name recognition in that riding compared to other PPC candidates running for the first time.
00:13:37.020 And she still fell on her face because not only is leadership not focused on actually winning these ridings by door-knocking,
00:13:44.360 by doing real on-the-ground things that reach the average voter, they also just seem to be pretty unpleasant. 0.99
00:13:51.120 Going around calling voters stupid, calling them naive, calling them cowardly, saying that, you know, 0.99
00:13:55.900 pure poly of is a mass immigration globalist. 1.00
00:13:57.940 Despite pure poly of opposing mass immigration, that makes you seem petty and unpleasant.
00:14:03.620 People vote for people that they can see eye-to-eye with, and all these guys ranting on social media 1.00
00:14:08.920 about how people just need to wake up, you're stupid sheeples, get out of the matrix and whatnot. 1.00
00:14:14.680 You guys have never door-knocked in your lives, idiots. 1.00
00:14:17.180 Go and door-knock. 1.00
00:14:17.960 Go talk to a normal person.
00:14:19.180 Go see what they actually sound like at the doors.
00:14:21.780 People do not talk like you do on social media.
00:14:24.560 They actually want someone who seems stable.
00:14:26.900 They don't want someone with crazy eyes, ranting in monotone tones the way Alex Cargill does on social media
00:14:33.340 about the matrix and there's globalists everywhere, blah, blah, blah. 0.99
00:14:37.000 Everyone who supports the conservatives is corrupt and they're being paid off. 0.67
00:14:39.940 Maybe go talk to an average person.
00:14:41.720 See how they talk about politics.
00:14:43.560 Most people are not that political, and they just want someone that they can trust to vote for.
00:14:48.180 People, as simplistic as it sounds like, again, people vote for parties that they agree with.
00:14:54.020 They don't just vote for parties because they've been tricked.
00:14:56.220 They vote for the conservatives and the liberals because they have well-established brands that they trust. 0.94
00:15:02.480 And you could say, well, Justin Trudeau is super corrupt.
00:15:04.840 Yes, and that's why he's losing votes.
00:15:06.460 That's why even the liberal party's brand is not helping him these days.
00:15:09.840 That's why Aaron O'Toole did not benefit that much from the conservative party brand because no one trusted him personally.
00:15:16.660 Pure poly, people trust him personally and they like the conservative brand.
00:15:20.100 And that's why he's doing well.
00:15:21.860 People do not trust Maxime Bernier and they don't care about the PPC brand.
00:15:25.680 And that's why they're not doing well.
00:15:27.420 There's a lot of PPC candidates out there who assume that they don't actually have to campaign because the PPC brand will lift them up.
00:15:34.040 Yes, maybe if you're like a well-established brand, you can get away with not running in a seat that's safe for you.
00:15:39.360 Most of the time, the brand might help you out a bit, but you have to keep reestablishing that brand every single election by even the conservatives and writings they cannot win.
00:15:48.880 They try hard to prove that they can be trusted so that in 20 years, maybe they can win that writing.
00:15:54.680 The PPC, even the writings they potentially could win, are not trying hard.
00:15:58.540 I didn't, I've never seen the PPC candidate who ran in my area at my door ever, not even dropping off literature two times, two elections, 2019, 2021, never saw the guy.
00:16:10.080 Tons of people, this is a writing where they should, this is the most blue suburban writing in the country, Calgary Signal Hill.
00:16:16.520 He should be trying to run really hard on this writing and he doesn't, but whatever.
00:16:21.220 Anyways, that's my rant to combat a lot of the PPC rants.
00:16:25.120 And I know they'll say, well, Wyatt, you're running for the conservative party, nomination Calgary Signal Hill, you're a conservative shill.
00:16:31.860 No, I'm not.
00:16:32.480 I'm actually, I could never work for CSIS because I am incapable of lying.
00:16:36.640 I will criticize other conservatives as if I don't believe they're being conservative enough.
00:16:40.400 Ergo, myself and the National Telegraph basically went to war with Aaron O'Toole in the 21 election.
00:16:45.920 That's why we're being sued.
00:16:47.180 That's why we had two lawsuits from people associated with Aaron O'Toole.
00:16:50.580 I'm still fighting one of them, you know, link in the description below for our Give, Send, Go legal fund.
00:16:55.420 Paid $26,000 defending myself from that one.
00:16:58.520 Paid $5,000 defending myself from another Aaron O'Toole employee back during the leadership election.
00:17:04.120 That one's effectively resolved at this point.
00:17:06.280 I'm not someone who's a conservative party shill.
00:17:08.980 I am only running for the conservatives now because their brand is better with pure poly at the helm.
00:17:14.000 So I'm comfortable running in Calgary Signal Hill.
00:17:17.180 Shameless plug.
00:17:17.940 If you live on the west side of Calgary, vote for me in this writing.
00:17:20.980 You know, this is what the new writing boundaries will look like.
00:17:23.640 The normal sort of stuff I say about it.
00:17:25.500 Buy a membership.
00:17:26.280 Go check out my website, wyattdickclaypool.com in the description below.
00:17:29.680 But no, I'm not doing this because I'm a conservative shill or anything.
00:17:33.000 I am very much the opposite.
00:17:34.660 I even supported you guys in 21.
00:17:36.680 And now you're pretending like I only say things because I'm conservative.
00:17:39.640 If you think that people are only saying things because they're not part of your club, then it's probably because your club's not very popular.
00:17:47.280 If you're going to just discount anything that anyone says who's not already a PPC supporter, you're going to find that your pool keeps shrinking.
00:17:54.600 I said this joke on social media one time, and I think it's absolutely true.
00:17:58.960 There's a lot of truth to it.
00:18:00.040 Once the PPC is down to only one supporter left, even that person will have to denounce themselves as a secret globalist. 0.97
00:18:07.560 The party is going into a purity death spiral where everyone who doesn't 100% agree with every single thing that Maxime Bernier thinks, or frankly just random PPC influencers think, are labeled as somehow naive, stupid, or cowardly and kicked out of the party.
00:18:23.340 I know people who ran for the PPC in 21, they've been kicked out for wondering where the constitution of the party is that Bernier has been promising for years. 0.98
00:18:31.500 If you're kicking people out for calling you out for not fulfilling your promises, you're a dead party.
00:18:36.880 You're acting like the Liberal Party does, except you're less popular.
00:18:42.480 So really, where does that put the PPC?
00:18:45.220 Eh, I don't know. 1.00
00:18:46.400 It's sort of sad that they're more pathetic than even the Liberals are. 0.98
00:18:49.440 Anyways, that should be it for me today, guys. 0.99
00:18:51.680 See you all around.