The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - September 01, 2023


Media Commentators WRONG About Pierre Poilievre's Popularity

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Wyatt Claypool
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Erin O'Toole Andrew Coyne Max Fawcett Andrew Scheer Pierre Polyev Chrystia Freeland Daniel Boardman Chantal Hubert David Musgrove Trudeau Clyde
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8 minutes

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211.32

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1,788

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86

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In this episode, I talk about how Aaron O'Toole is proving to be much more popular than anyone expected, and why Andrew Scheer should have been the Tory candidate in the 2015 election. I also talk about why the media is completely ignoring the fact that there are a lot of people in Canada who don't even understand what a carbon tax is.

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00:00:00.000 I just want to make a quick video addressing all sort of the nonsense that was taking place over the past six months where people in the media were claiming that somehow pure polio was deeply unpopular and that he was going to crash and burn the Conservative Party and the Conservative Party should have just stuck to Aaron O'Toole because he was such a better leader.
00:00:17.780 All those people have been proven decisively wrong by the last two months of polling. Both pure polio's personal popularity polling, which is actually starting to move above water, which is very difficult for a Conservative opposition leader because, you know, one, people don't really know who they are.
00:00:32.480 And two, there is a big predisposition to saying basically any Conservative is a bad guy because of media coverage and a lot of other social pressure factors. But pure polio has been doing brilliantly.
00:00:41.660 And the Chantal Hubert's, the Andrew Coyne's, Max Fawcett's of the world, they've never really come back and justified any of their previous positions.
00:00:51.260 They'd find some outlier polls saying, oh, look, you know, pure polio, he's actually technically under the Liberals by 1% in this recent poll, like back when he'd only been leader for like five months and nobody still knew who he was and whatnot.
00:01:02.720 But these days, where are all these people? Chantal Hubert is now on some sort of sabbatical or whatever. None of these people ever came back and said, yeah, I don't have to like pure polio.
00:01:11.400 And I'm not saying anyone has to like pure polio, but where are all these people when like when the actual, you know, facts come up and they're nowhere to be found.
00:01:18.540 Andrew Coyne wrote article after article basically saying that pure polio was too extreme and he's going to alienate the center of politics based on this entire myth that the entire Canadian election, the sort of campaign strategy should always be based off winning people in the middle as if it's this big pot of voters.
00:01:35.580 Most voters tend to congregate to the left and congregate to the right.
00:01:38.240 There's not that many voters in the middle most of the time. It's mostly just about getting your base out and convincing people that you're the real deal.
00:01:44.980 Anyways, but you'd have tons of articles from Andrew Coyne talking about how he was extreme and oh boy, that Aaron O'Toole guy really put up those really long public policy proposals and whatnot.
00:01:56.740 Wasn't that fantastic? Oh, he was so wonkish and great. It was amazing.
00:02:01.060 Same thing with Max Fawcett. Supposedly the conservatives would be at 45% now, even still, if Aaron O'Toole was the leader,
00:02:07.280 despite the fact that their base hated them. But I think that this demonstrates that there's such a disconnect between a lot of very elitist style political commentators and the actual political situation on the ground.
00:02:19.200 Andrew Coyne is the type of guy who when Aaron O'Toole releases a 50 page platform when he's running for the leadership of the Conservative Party back in 2020 is gushing over the detail and look at how much nuance there is here.
00:02:31.760 And then he goes over to peer poly. If he doesn't really release big platforms or anything, he'll maybe release memos and singular, basically papers just on what he thinks on a specific topic.
00:02:41.520 And Andrew Coyne's acting like this is so, like, this is so, like, somehow, like, I don't know, unfancy of peer poly to release, like, no bloated platforms and whatnot.
00:02:53.200 Oh, goodness. He's so vulgar for not actually, like, for not tickling me with these 15 pages of my strategy on housing.
00:03:02.880 It's stupid, but it's because Andrew Coyne does not understand the average voter. He just thinks that everyone thinks like him and they want all this wonkish detail when most people just want vision from the leader. 0.98
00:03:14.600 That's why that's why Pierre is doing way better than Aaron O'Toole. And that's why he's doing better than Andrew Scheer, although Scheer did still do much better job than O'Toole is because Pierre actually gives a vision for the country.
00:03:26.580 He gives his basically view of how government should work. And he doesn't need to give details because by just giving his vision of how the country works, a smaller, more free society, like sort of like a smaller government society, whatnot, that really connects with people.
00:03:40.660 Aaron O'Toole giving you his 20 point plan on taxes is stupid. Nobody cares, especially because usually detail and long platforms is how people hide all the stuff that they don't want you to know that they're doing is because they're going to come and say, oh, yeah, I did scrap the carbon tax, but I have my own carbon tax.
00:03:57.480 And I also I'm going to raise this tax over here. I'm introducing this new tax. I'm going to eliminate this tax, but I'm also going to introduce these five other taxes that effectively make up for that larger tax I got rid of.
00:04:06.740 And that's what a lot of large platforms tend to be all about. But I think that you get a lot of people in the commentariat who like the fact that politicians put out these long papers that they can sort of feel like they're the only ones who understand.
00:04:19.480 But moving on to Chantal Hubert in the Toronto Star, it was every single article about how like Polyev was going to crash and burn. And even at the time, there wasn't really that much data to prove it.
00:04:29.400 I'm not just going to talk about rallies, but, you know, Polyev had massive rallies. Does she think that he's only monopolizing 28 percent of the country when she was when she was citing polls that only had the conservatives at 28?
00:04:41.560 Obviously, he was going to grow based on all the excitement. But like Aaron O'Toole, like all the people still saying Aaron O'Toole was going to do fantastic.
00:04:48.920 Aaron O'Toole couldn't attract flies to any of his events. Do you think that that's actually a proof of a healthy of a healthy conservative party?
00:04:55.840 And all the polling even showed that it was probably actually overestimating O'Toole. And a lot of people were just selecting the CPC going into the 2021 election simply because they hated Trudeau.
00:05:06.560 Like the PPC, effectively, their biggest asset ever was having Aaron O'Toole as the leader of the conservative party.
00:05:13.480 But again, just going back to this, my issue with kind of commentary in general for Canadian politics is that there's a big disconnect between this kind of a commentary I do on YouTube,
00:05:23.780 other people, you know, Clyde Do Something, The Pleb, you know, my co-operator at the National Telegraph, Daniel Boardman.
00:05:31.400 We all talk about politics as how normal people think about it.
00:05:34.940 But then you have this kind of CBC, global news, legacy, like news outlet kind of a commentary where it's kind of trying to prove to you how smart they are,
00:05:45.000 that everything is just sort of proving how knowledgeable they are about the history of Canadian politics.
00:05:50.140 And it's like, it's like, the rule is, it's 5,000 words or it's wrong, especially in the case of Andrew Coyne, that, but they just don't understand how the average person thinks.
00:05:59.840 So that's where I think that they've been so blindsided by pure poly of that's why attacks, frankly, don't really work on pure poly of because when they have people like that lady, I don't even remember her name, she's irrelevant,
00:06:09.540 that was trying to accuse pure poly of somehow a dog whistling to the far right and hey, isn't pure poly of adopting conspiracy language into the Conservative Party.
00:06:17.840 It never connected with anyone because people watching pure poly of anyone familiar with the Canadian politics landscape on the actual ground of how people actually view it.
00:06:27.340 They don't see criticizing the WAF as conspiratorial in any way. They don't like the WAF. The vast majority of people don't.
00:06:33.980 You know, Christy Freeland didn't like the WAF until like, as soon as she entered government. That was kind of her switch.
00:06:39.580 As soon as she got to be one of the pretty people on stage, then she was totally fine with it all.
00:06:43.920 But yeah, that's that our commentary from the YouTube side of things is actually connecting with people because we don't, you know, we don't look at polls and say, you know, man, people really care about climate change.
00:06:53.540 Pure poly isn't talking about climate change. He's probably going to lose the next election. What a sucker. No one cares about climate change.
00:07:00.180 I don't care if a poll says they do. Go out and talk to people. They don't care about it that much.
00:07:04.180 You get activists and activists always really care about their issue, but there's not that many climate activists who are actually going to the polls and voting on climate change.
00:07:11.980 If they did, the Conservatives wouldn't be up 13% on the Liberals and the NDP wouldn't be crashing alongside the Liberals in their own polling,
00:07:19.260 despite the fact that they should probably be benefiting from the Liberals bleeding out support.
00:07:23.080 But, you know, people are attracted to the Conservatives because they're actually speaking to the issues of people's lives.
00:07:27.760 Not that Chantal Hubert or Andrew Coyne or Max Fawcett or David Moskow or any of these people would notice.
00:07:34.720 They just think that he's just not being, you know, fancy enough with his language and he isn't being detailed enough.
00:07:39.900 And he isn't, you know, playing to their sort of interests as public policy supposed experts.
00:07:44.600 But whatever, just how politics works in this country.
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