The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - December 18, 2025


Media is attacking Polievre after polls show he is popular!


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Wyatt Clunis goes on a political rant about how the media and legacy media are spinning a false narrative about the leadership of the Conservative Party of Canada and why it s time for Patrick Polyvencing to go.

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, Wyatt Claypool here.
00:00:02.800 Bit of a political rant today on the show,
00:00:05.520 because I've been seeing so many stupid things coming out from the legacy media
00:00:10.400 as well as naysayers of the conservatives that prove why political narratives are so stupid.
00:00:17.200 Whenever someone's aggressively trying to spin a political narrative,
00:00:21.140 it probably means that whatever they're trying to tell you is the opposite of the truth.
00:00:27.100 Here, Polyev and the Conservative Party just had three different pollsters come out over the past two days
00:00:33.860 showing them with really good numbers, and more importantly, Mark Carney with bad numbers,
00:00:39.920 and suddenly we have all of these news articles and individuals coming out
00:00:44.180 saying that here, Polyev's leadership of the Conservative Party is on the rocks,
00:00:48.240 and that his position is untenable, and that he's super unpopular and all this stuff,
00:00:53.000 and it's almost like they're only spinning this anti-Polyev narrative because he is in fact succeeding.
00:01:00.560 Was the last election loss a setback? Definitely.
00:01:04.980 Is having people like Michael Ma cross the floor and join the Liberals bad?
00:01:09.280 Yes, whoever greenlit that candidate for an appointment should never be allowed to vet candidates again.
00:01:15.680 But, overall, is the Conservative narrative and their election prospects weak right now?
00:01:21.400 Not at all. A lot of people are not impressed with Prime Minister Mark Carney and the Liberals.
00:01:26.960 There's a lot of people who still like them, and that's mostly just a consequence of the fact
00:01:31.960 that we've kind of entered an era of Canadian politics where we've gone back to, like, a two-party system
00:01:37.820 like we used to at the start of Confederation, where it's pretty much just the Liberals and the Conservatives.
00:01:43.360 And so that means if people don't like Conservatives, they're mostly just going to vote Liberal.
00:01:47.800 But even in the scenario where Mark Carney, the Prime Minister, and he's able to do a lot of stuff to try
00:01:53.380 and buoy his popularity, you know, cut taxes or cut regulations, try and get the economy going,
00:01:59.320 he's failing to do it because, in his heart, he's a leftist.
00:02:03.080 He doesn't want to make the budget more responsible.
00:02:06.140 He doesn't want to get to a trade agreement with Donald Trump and the Americans.
00:02:09.260 In fact, he's trying to make trade deals with China and European countries we don't really trade with all that much.
00:02:14.680 He's just been doing a lot of busy work, and I think people notice that.
00:02:18.440 And because Mark Carney's popularity is falling off by quite a bit in the Main Street poll,
00:02:23.480 he's literally in negative numbers now when it comes to his overall approval rating,
00:02:27.660 now the media needs to attack Polyev and make him the big bad boogeyman where,
00:02:32.880 if there's an election, remember, guys, we can't let this guy get into office
00:02:35.820 because something, something, vague accusation.
00:02:39.640 We now have articles like this out there.
00:02:42.160 This is patently insane that this was written and published in the last 12 hours.
00:02:48.460 From National Newswatch, posting this on X, it says,
00:02:51.980 Polyev's unpopularity is untenable.
00:02:54.500 He needs to go, Sandy White writes.
00:02:57.300 And she is some advisor to a cabinet minister, or maybe he, I don't know, back in 2008.
00:03:03.800 So apparently someone who used to be like the chief of staff or some advisor to a cabinet minister
00:03:08.920 back in 2008 says that Polyev's not so cool, and you better not vote for him
00:03:14.640 upon the leadership review in January at the Calgary Convention.
00:03:18.820 By the way, I will be at the Calgary Convention as a delegate alternate,
00:03:22.880 which is actually kind of nice because it doesn't mean I have to vote on anything.
00:03:25.260 I can just walk around and talk to people.
00:03:27.720 Polyev, from my estimation, is probably going to win his leadership review by 80 to 90%.
00:03:33.340 He is quite popular.
00:03:35.300 Maybe I could see a scenario where some people are getting cold feet over some silly stuff,
00:03:40.420 and he gets only 75, but he'll be in a fine position.
00:03:44.460 Yes, there are people who are upset with how the nominations were handled before the last election.
00:03:49.860 I was upset.
00:03:50.900 As you guys know, with my lore, I was kicked out of the nomination in the riding of Calgary,
00:03:56.240 Signal Hill, but I never thought that that was pure Polyev's fault.
00:03:59.860 I thought that was the fault of advisors who have mostly been either demoted or completely sidelined since then,
00:04:06.020 and the party has actually fixed the nomination process,
00:04:09.020 and they're severely limiting the amount of people that the leader's office can appoint.
00:04:13.880 With the 90 appointments, it wasn't like Polyev was going around and picking guys he likes.
00:04:17.920 It was probably his staff saying, you should appoint this guy,
00:04:20.680 and then he did it because, well, he has to get back to actual work,
00:04:24.200 and they were supposed to pick good candidates.
00:04:25.880 But regardless, other than some people who think, like, Polyev needs to be more like Doug Ford or Tim Houston,
00:04:32.340 for the most part, people like him.
00:04:34.100 And it would be very difficult to name anyone that you think could do theoretically a better job.
00:04:38.740 And you may even think that someone may do a better job, but are they electable enough?
00:04:43.900 And I'm not saying electable like, oh, they're too conservative,
00:04:46.420 but, like, they don't have the name recognition or brand recognition.
00:04:49.600 I like Jamil Javani and Pierre Polyev probably about equally.
00:04:52.800 Jamil, I could see him being a leader one day,
00:04:56.060 but he's not really at the level yet where he has the name recognition to do it,
00:04:59.980 and I think he knows that, and I don't think he's actually gunning for leadership in any way.
00:05:03.700 But this is going to take me to the next stupid thing that I've seen recently.
00:05:08.360 It's people trying to, again, gin up this idea, this narrative,
00:05:11.520 that somehow Jamil Javani is now trying to undermine Pierre Polyev,
00:05:16.840 because he offered to help Mark Carney with Donald Trump
00:05:20.220 because of Jamil Javani's personal friendship with, what is it, J.D. Vance,
00:05:26.840 the vice president of the United States.
00:05:28.920 Watch this one-minute clip, and then I need to show you the post that,
00:05:33.280 I don't even know how to refer to her,
00:05:35.860 Rupa Supramania had made, basically trying to gin up this narrative
00:05:39.320 that somehow there is trouble in conservative land because of what Jamil is doing here.
00:05:43.420 I have to ask you about J.D. Vance.
00:05:45.640 For sure.
00:05:48.080 What do you guys talk about?
00:05:49.540 Do you talk to him regularly?
00:05:50.940 What do you talk about?
00:05:52.180 I haven't talked to him a lot recently when we have spoken to him
00:05:55.720 about our fantasy football team, which we are going through the playoffs right now,
00:05:59.600 so we did very well this season.
00:06:02.940 But, yeah, I mean, look, it's a difficult situation,
00:06:06.580 just like the politics, right, because if my party were in power
00:06:10.700 and I could actually reach out to people in Washington and say,
00:06:14.800 okay, can we try to resolve some of this trade dispute or get a deal going,
00:06:18.820 there's a role for me to play.
00:06:20.680 With the Liberal Party in power,
00:06:22.640 there's not an obvious way for me to inject myself into that conversation.
00:06:26.800 Now, I will say, I have offered Mark Carney to help,
00:06:31.040 and I really do believe I could help.
00:06:32.400 I would love it if Mark Carney said to me,
00:06:34.420 look, we need a multi-partisan, all-hands-on-deck approach.
00:06:38.320 Please go down to Washington.
00:06:39.620 Here's the strategy and approach we're taking.
00:06:41.660 See what you can do to help.
00:06:42.620 I would love it if he asked me to do that.
00:06:44.700 But out of respect for him as prime minister,
00:06:46.660 I don't want to get involved.
00:06:48.240 And, frankly, we saw with the whole Doug Ford commercial debacle
00:06:52.800 what happens when there's not a good strategy in place
00:06:55.560 that is in the best interest of the country.
00:06:57.900 Mark Carney is getting a new ambassador named.
00:07:00.920 Maybe that means a new strategy.
00:07:02.420 Maybe that means there's a way that I can help.
00:07:04.520 And, you know, my constituents in Bowmanville, Oshawa North
00:07:07.500 would like me to do that.
00:07:09.020 But at the end of the day,
00:07:10.380 the prime minister has to make that decision, not me.
00:07:12.620 So that was a longer clip for me to play,
00:07:15.320 but you guys just need this context for what Jamil Giovanni said.
00:07:18.220 And before I actually go to what Rupert Supramania said,
00:07:20.620 I want to go to CBC reacting to this.
00:07:23.600 And I think you'll notice that the narrative that Rupa is trying to spin
00:07:26.940 is pretty much the exact same narrative that David Cochran
00:07:30.700 and the liberal cheerleaders on the CBC are trying to spin. 0.88
00:07:33.640 But does Pierre Polyev know he's offering his services to Mark Carney?
00:07:37.660 Because it seems like there's a skip being stepped to say
00:07:41.160 if Mark Carney, like, you know,
00:07:42.280 there's another leader in the middle of this.
00:07:43.760 Do they know about this?
00:07:45.000 Do we know, Kate?
00:07:45.600 That's a good question.
00:07:47.480 Many people today have asked me the question,
00:07:49.800 how involved was the leader's office in this interview?
00:07:54.800 Or did they know about this interview?
00:07:55.960 And I tell them I will happily talk to any MP who wants to talk to me,
00:08:00.900 regardless of whether or not they get a sanctioned approval to speak with me.
00:08:05.580 So I couldn't tell you.
00:08:07.720 It's just an interesting offer to be made to the prime minister.
00:08:10.720 Here, okay, I like to break down propaganda.
00:08:15.880 And the CBC is very good at it.
00:08:18.120 At the same time, they're very bad at it.
00:08:20.440 In the sense that I know what they're trying to do.
00:08:22.680 And it's kind of intelligent, trying to create this public rift
00:08:26.400 between Pierre Polyev and Jamil Javani.
00:08:29.160 They don't have a problem with each other.
00:08:31.680 I know people who know Jamil Javani.
00:08:34.180 Jamil Javani and Pierre Polyev do not have a problem.
00:08:36.020 If they do have a problem, it wouldn't be known to anybody or any of them.
00:08:40.580 Here's what, I need to go back to what also what David Cochran's doing at the start of this.
00:08:44.500 This is absence of any thought.
00:08:47.680 This is 39 seconds of just nothing.
00:08:51.320 They have nothing to talk about.
00:08:53.160 And they're using the fact that they have nothing to try and spin a controversy.
00:08:57.480 Does Pierre Polyev know he's offering his services to Mark Kearney?
00:09:00.920 Does Pierre Polyev know he's offering his services to Mark Kearney?
00:09:10.260 And then you get the other lady cuts in there. 1.00
00:09:12.640 And she's like, oh, well, yeah.
00:09:14.880 Well, I have been having people ask questions.
00:09:17.880 Oh, wow, questions.
00:09:19.260 People have been asking questions if this was sanctioned or not.
00:09:23.340 Was this sanctioned?
00:09:24.500 They don't have anything.
00:09:25.860 They literally don't have any information to suggest it was unsanctioned.
00:09:29.360 But they're just, oh, we're just, it's basically the conspiracy theorists just asking questions.
00:09:34.680 David Cochran is a liberal conspiracy theorist.
00:09:37.560 He's there being like, oh, well, I'm just asking questions.
00:09:39.600 Oh, was this sanctioned or not?
00:09:41.140 Just tell, David, just put out the smear directly.
00:09:45.760 Just say that I'm accusing Jamil Giovanni of going behind Polyev's back and trying to undermine him.
00:09:50.580 And now let's get to Rupert Supramania's post.
00:09:53.600 Because I find this endlessly stupid.
00:09:55.760 So Rupert here put out this post, reacting to the original clip of Jamil talking.
00:10:03.180 And she says, interesting.
00:10:05.420 Four possible interpretations of Jamil's offer to help Carney with the U.S.
00:10:09.680 citing his personal friendship with J.D. Vance.
00:10:12.660 One, did this offer to help Carney have Polyev's blessing?
00:10:17.700 If not, he's doing an end run around the leader, suggesting that Polyev's grip on the caucus may be weakening further.
00:10:24.440 Number two, he's telegraphing leadership ambition within the CPC, the Conservative Party of Canada.
00:10:30.880 Number three, he could be signaling openness to crossing the floor, though it's unclear why he would want to do that.
00:10:37.740 As ideologically, he's way further to the right than Carney and the Liberals.
00:10:41.640 In other words, I don't believe he's a red Tory.
00:10:44.340 Four, he's simply trying to be helpful.
00:10:46.920 But if so, he surely understands the optics.
00:10:49.560 And I look at this, and like, can we even go, I think I have my post right here about it.
00:10:54.960 Like, I pointed this out last night.
00:10:56.920 It's like, I find it baffling.
00:10:59.520 We're not going to read through my thing, just so this doesn't just become the Wyatt Claypool reading hour.
00:11:03.880 I find it baffling.
00:11:05.900 Rupert cannot rub a couple brain cells together and think,
00:11:09.600 do you know what the obvious explanation for what Jamil Giovanni's doing right here is?
00:11:13.340 He's trying to embarrass Mark Carney, because guess what?
00:11:17.600 Mark Carney is not going to accept Jamil Giovanni's help.
00:11:21.240 And as Mark Carney keeps fumbling the trade talks with the Trump administration,
00:11:26.660 Jamil can keep sitting there and saying,
00:11:28.460 well, I told you so.
00:11:29.500 I told them that they shouldn't do that.
00:11:30.760 I offered to help.
00:11:31.940 They're going to look really, really bad not accepting the help of the man who shared a dorm room
00:11:38.500 with J.D. Vance and his best friends with him.
00:11:40.760 Maybe not best, best friends, but, you know, like, very, very solid friends.
00:11:44.580 That's what's going on here.
00:11:46.200 Could there be some other explanation?
00:11:48.500 Could Jamil want leadership?
00:11:50.580 I don't know.
00:11:51.720 But, like, guys, Occam's razor here.
00:11:53.960 Let's take the most obvious explanation.
00:11:56.640 What you do is you offer your opponent to help when you know they will say no,
00:12:01.260 and then they will look even worse as they keep failing,
00:12:03.700 having not accepted the hand that you were giving them.
00:12:06.920 That is what is going on here.
00:12:08.860 But, again, Rupa and the CBC and many other people are trying to spin this narrative
00:12:14.020 that Polyev's losing grip.
00:12:16.940 He doesn't have the confidence of his caucus.
00:12:19.260 Look, Jamil said some stuff to our reporter.
00:12:22.560 Did he ask Pierre Polyev if he was allowed to wear that tie in that interview?
00:12:27.920 Oh, I'm not sure.
00:12:29.200 Maybe they're fighting behind the scenes.
00:12:31.360 Oh, my goodness.
00:12:32.240 We just got word that Tom Kamik,
00:12:34.640 we just got word that Arnold Veersen ate a steak dinner at wherever.
00:12:39.800 Did he get Polyev's approval for that?
00:12:42.400 Michelle Rempel-Garner wore the color red.
00:12:45.360 Is she crossing the floor?
00:12:47.080 This is what it's turning into.
00:12:49.000 Because we had three pollsters come out recently,
00:12:52.580 two of them showing the conservatives win the election,
00:12:54.760 the other one showing it extremely close,
00:12:56.640 and Mark Carney's approval rating in Main Street,
00:12:59.680 which is a pretty conservative pollster.
00:13:01.980 And when I say conservative, I mean careful.
00:13:04.280 They don't tend to have wildly moving numbers.
00:13:06.900 They have shown, over time,
00:13:09.100 Mark Carney's approval rating slowly dropping in line with the lack of achievements.
00:13:14.200 And now he is literally at a negative position.
00:13:16.940 I actually thought he might be a leader
00:13:18.660 who is always kind of able to hold on to a positive approval rating.
00:13:22.180 He's just too boring to really hate.
00:13:23.860 But he's incompetent enough, apparently, to hate now.
00:13:27.420 And now he's literally at negative 4% approval
00:13:30.340 when previous pollsters were showing him at, like,
00:13:32.720 plus 14 and plus 10, plus 15 and whatnot.
00:13:36.240 People can cite all day long, including Rupa.
00:13:39.260 I've seen her do it.
00:13:40.300 Oh, look, the preferred prime minister rating
00:13:42.040 has Mark Carney way above Polyev.
00:13:44.180 Okay, that's not a national poll.
00:13:46.200 That's preferred prime minister.
00:13:47.980 All the lefty people are going to say Carney,
00:13:49.960 and a lot of the conservatives are going to say Polyev.
00:13:52.280 And the Conservative Party is, by the way, not a cult.
00:13:55.180 So some people will say,
00:13:56.420 well, I like Carney, but I still vote Conservative
00:13:58.300 because I like the policies.
00:13:59.740 People take that question to mean too many different things.
00:14:02.260 It's worthless.
00:14:03.560 The only questions that really matter in Canadian politics
00:14:06.020 are a question about,
00:14:08.320 who are you voting nationally?
00:14:09.740 Do you approve or disapprove of this specific individual,
00:14:12.660 not relative to anyone else,
00:14:14.000 but do you like this person or dislike this person?
00:14:16.320 And then if you ask people very specific policy questions,
00:14:19.640 like, who do you trust more on crime?
00:14:21.360 Who do you trust more when it comes to taxes?
00:14:24.120 Who do you trust more when it comes to international relations?
00:14:26.980 That is the only questions you can ask.
00:14:28.880 Once it becomes preferred prime minister,
00:14:30.540 it becomes an abstract, worthless question.
00:14:33.420 But again, it's funny how suddenly,
00:14:35.800 when the conservatives are actually having a lot of good news come out,
00:14:38.560 a bunch of media propaganda,
00:14:40.100 a bunch of influencers on X start trying to hit the bug lights
00:14:44.060 and say, oh my goodness,
00:14:46.060 well, this actually shows that Polyev is really unpopular.
00:14:48.800 Oh, well, if Polyev was so popular,
00:14:51.420 why didn't he call the Christmas election during the budget?
00:14:55.060 Well, it still didn't matter even if all the conservatives voted for the budget,
00:14:58.620 but they didn't kill the budget
00:15:00.260 because no one's stupid enough to do a Christmas election.
00:15:02.860 It's only been seven months since the last election.
00:15:04.780 That's not lost on anybody.
00:15:06.180 And you would look bad by calling a Christmas election.
00:15:09.260 Even if you were up on the polls,
00:15:10.340 your poll lead would evaporate
00:15:11.660 because you are now the Grinch party
00:15:13.420 screwing up everyone's Christmas,
00:15:15.480 forcing them to vote in an election they did not want.
00:15:17.520 Do we as political watchers want an election?
00:15:20.260 Pretty much all the time.
00:15:21.740 We love elections.
00:15:22.700 It's fun and we want the conservatives to win.
00:15:25.060 The average person would see an election get called
00:15:27.660 right before Christmas and be like,
00:15:30.040 well, thanks for screwing up my year.
00:15:31.620 I'm going to vote for the liberals out of spite or stay home.
00:15:34.980 Anyways, well, that's that rant over.
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