The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - February 15, 2024


NDP MP refuses to condemn criminals burning churches

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In Question Period, Conservative MP Garnett Genuet tries to get a single NDP MP to condemn all the anti-Indigenous church fires and burnings happening in Indigenous communities across the country. And the only person who can answer the question correctly is someone who has no idea what she's talking about.

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00:00:00.000 Watching Question Period and the other business of Parliament can be one of the most disheartening
00:00:04.200 things you can do as a voting member of Canadian society. You start to wonder who is even electing
00:00:09.500 a lot of these activists, liberal and NDP MPs into Parliament. They have no clue what they're
00:00:14.760 doing when voting on a lot of policies, and they seem to just be genuinely nasty individuals who
00:00:19.900 have no empathy for 75% of the general Canadian public. They only care about a specific subset
00:00:25.820 of people that they've decided are those who they actually serve and the rest of Canadians can go
00:00:30.280 pack sand. And I think this is the perfect example. Garnett Genuit, a good Conservative MP from Sherwood
00:00:36.940 Park, Fort Saskatchewan, tries to get a single NDP MP to condemn all the church arsons happening all 1.00
00:00:44.040 over Canada. Check this out. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I did want to ask this member a specific question
00:00:49.000 about anti-Indigenous violence and reconciliation. One of the sad continuing examples of anti-Indigenous
00:00:55.420 violence that we've seen in this country has been a series of attacks on churches and Indigenous
00:00:59.680 communities. Many churches and Indigenous communities, sacred spaces for Indigenous
00:01:03.580 Christians steeped in personal and familial traditions and sometimes containing important
00:01:07.760 community records, have been vandalized or burned down. These acts of arson aren't just
00:01:12.480 damaging to property, they're also very dangerous to human life. And I've noticed that we haven't heard
00:01:17.180 anything from the NDP on these incidents. So I want to ask this member, will she join me in
00:01:21.460 condemning these attacks on churches we've seen in Indigenous communities?
00:01:25.900 Extremely reasonable question. And she might think, well, this is a gotcha question. He's trying
00:01:30.700 to put me into a corner. The only reason that this counts as a gotcha from Garnett Genuit is because
00:01:36.640 it's so simple that anyone should be able to answer this question correctly. That will you condemn
00:01:41.820 these church fires, these church burnings, arsons? And you would just say, yes. It's only a gotcha
00:01:47.460 to this Leah Gazin lady, because she is a genuine radical. And if she was to answer this correctly,
00:01:53.820 even just for the political safety of it, her own base would come after her. Because, no, like,
00:01:59.360 get this right. The NDP base, it's not just, you know, like pro-union Canadians who want some more
00:02:05.520 social assistance type programs and for benefits to be raised for unemployed Canadians or for union
00:02:11.580 members or anything like that. No, no, no. A lot of the NDP base at this point are just radical
00:02:16.140 progressives. And I think this really speaks to it here. The Honorable Member from Winnipeg Center.
00:02:22.440 So I'm kind of concerned with this question, because there seems to be a presumption of who's
00:02:27.320 done it. Who did he presume did it? He has said nobody. He has not even implied who a culprit is.
00:02:34.160 He just said that there was a lot of churches being burned down in Indigenous communities. These are 1.00
00:02:38.980 the churches of these Indigenous people. And it's obviously an aspect of truth and reconciliation
00:02:44.740 to take the fact that their place of worship are being burnt to the ground. He didn't imply anybody
00:02:50.180 specifically did it. If anything, the only thing that he should have presumed is that it's often,
00:02:54.920 it's obviously a left-wing activist. A left-wing activist who's probably planning on voting for
00:02:59.860 someone like Leah Gazzan. But I'll let her continue and make a fool of herself. 1.00
00:03:03.340 So I'm not sure who's burning the churches and why he's relating it to this speech. 0.95
00:03:12.780 Goodness. This person is not smart enough to be in Parliament. Just the way she talks, 1.00
00:03:18.680 it's like she doesn't even understand the questions she's being asked. I'm not sure who's burning down
00:03:25.020 these churches. And I'm not sure why this is being asked right now. Just answer the question,
00:03:31.660 lady. Just at least come clean and say, I'm okay with churches being burnt down. Because this entire
00:03:37.480 three-minute clip is her basically slowly saying, who cares? Is he insinuating that it's Indigenous people?
00:03:46.460 If anything, it wouldn't be Indigenous people. It's probably a white left-wing activist. Because
00:03:51.460 why would Indigenous people burn down a building that contains a lot of their birth records? That is 0.99
00:03:57.500 what a lot of these old churches house, is their family birth records, in which it helps you prove
00:04:03.320 your status as an Indigenous Canadian. It actually is unlikely to be an Indigenous person. And at no
00:04:08.720 point did Garnet Genuille even imply it. He actually said these are very important buildings for the
00:04:13.880 Indigenous people in these communities. And we should get to the bottom of who's doing it. But she can only 1.00
00:04:19.280 play the race card because she is an empty-headed grifter. Does he have proof of that? Because if he 0.97
00:04:25.060 doesn't... He never implied that it happened, so he doesn't need proof. Idiots. I would say that would
00:04:31.140 be a stereotype. I would also call that racist. Wow, she does? Wow, you called that racist? Wow, I didn't 0.95
00:04:39.240 expect this from an NDP MP. Whoa. Whoa. She called it racist? Guys, you can't inquire about church burnings
00:04:46.140 anymore. It could be racist to do so. Leah Gazin has let us know. Ask him first if he had proof,
00:04:52.520 and then I would be willing to discuss it. Because without knowing what the answer is, it's really
00:04:57.880 hard for me to answer for him what the root of that issue is. Sorry, sorry. So it matters to her
00:05:05.080 who's burning the churches down in order to condemn church burnings. So if it was someone from a specific
00:05:14.020 ethnic group or someone who was a specific sex, if they burned the church down, would she be less mad
00:05:20.740 about it than if someone else burned the church down? So like a cis white male burns the church down. 0.95
00:05:25.680 Leah Gazin's super mad. But if someone else burns the church down, maybe she's not so upset. And now 0.89
00:05:31.200 Garnett genuinely has to provide her proof of who might have burned the church down so she can speak
00:05:36.520 out against it. Imagine this in any other context. Someone's murdered, and you're being said,
00:05:42.180 well, you condemn political violence, because it was like some political person who was murdered. And
00:05:46.320 you're like, well, who did it? And like, people are like, does it matter? And you're like, well, I just
00:05:51.340 need to know what the motivations might have been. If someone was murdered, Leah, Leah, someone like in
00:05:58.540 churches are being burned down. And you need to know what the person who the person was. That's nuts.
00:06:05.400 Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And just to follow up to my previous question, I thought my question was fairly
00:06:09.560 clear. I characterized these attacks on churches as a form of anti-Indigenous violence. That is...
00:06:15.680 And that is a very smart thing for Garnett to have done. I don't think he's game playing here,
00:06:20.160 but I think he asked the question in a very specific manner in order so that if she pulled 0.95
00:06:24.000 out the race card, she would look like a complete circus clown. 1.00
00:06:27.560 Somebody is... It has, in many cases, burned down churches on Indigenous communities. And I see this 0.92
00:06:34.680 as an attack on those communities. I thought that was clear in my initial question, but I'll repeat
00:06:39.040 the point. I'm in no way making any assumptions or suggestions about who is doing this. I'm concerned
00:06:44.400 about how these attacks on churches, they undermine the religious freedom, but also they're...
00:06:49.740 Don't you know that religious freedom is far right, Garnett? I can't believe you. 1.00
00:06:53.800 They're an aspect of destruction of the cultural property of these Indigenous communities. 0.99
00:06:57.880 And we have not heard from the NDP statements condemning these attacks on churches. So, again,
00:07:05.580 in the spirit of condemning anti-Indigenous violence, I wonder if the member would be willing
00:07:09.480 to join me, join us in condemning these various attacks on churches and Indigenous communities
00:07:13.880 that we've seen. 0.99
00:07:14.560 I know that Garnett knows that Aaliyah Gazzan's too stupid to actually answer this question correctly, 0.99
00:07:19.720 but this isn't even like a softball question. This is pure T-ball. After that first softball 0.99
00:07:26.240 attempt, Garnett goes and explains to her how baseball works and then puts the softball
00:07:31.680 on the post and just says, okay, now I just need you to swing and hit that ball. Can you
00:07:36.260 do that for me? And as we will see, Leah Gazzan is incapable of doing that. 1.00
00:07:41.760 The Honorable Member from Winnipeg Center.
00:07:44.080 Well, again, I gave them the same response. I don't know what the motive was.
00:07:48.160 What was the motive? What was the motive? Maybe they were trying to save a bunch of children
00:07:52.160 in the basement of this church and needed to burn it down. Maybe they were trying
00:07:56.180 to fight white supremacy. That would make it okay. Who is this lady? Again, I go back 1.00
00:08:01.300 to it. Did she just submit a thousand box tops and was allowed to become the MP for Winnipeg
00:08:07.240 Center? Please, Winnipeg Center voters, get rid of this lady. She has no clue what she's 1.00
00:08:13.460 doing. She has no empathy for anyone outside of her political clan. It is disgusting to watch 0.99
00:08:18.720 her just humming and hawing about actual terrorism against churches. And just because, well, maybe 0.94
00:08:25.580 it's terrorism I like. Well, maybe it's good terrorism rather than bad terrorism. Maybe
00:08:30.640 we should just be against crime and terrorism in general. I don't know about you guys.
00:08:34.760 Maybe I'm being naive.
00:08:37.240 Who burned down the churches? And secondly,
00:08:41.400 Maybe it was Professor Plum in the drawing room with a candlestick that burned down the
00:08:46.260 churches. Look, why do we have to play a game of Clue before we're allowed to have a problem
00:08:50.340 with churches burning down? Because I don't know that, I can't call it anti-indigenous
00:08:54.740 violence. I don't know.
00:08:56.400 So, see, there is what, that's her point. So if, in her mind, that, this is actually what
00:09:01.780 she is implying. If an indigenous person burned down the church for pro, seemingly pro-indigenous
00:09:07.960 reasons, that means it's actually not anti-indigenous to burn down other indigenous people's churches.
00:09:13.420 I don't know if it was an indigenous person. I actually would assume it's a white leftist,
00:09:17.240 like I've mentioned before, because they tend to be the ones who are not going to care about
00:09:20.780 burning these churches down and all the records that the community will lose. And you get a lot of
00:09:25.420 very atheistic leftists, where I find that generally people who are more left-wing from other non-white 0.99
00:09:31.220 communities tend to not have as much of a hate on for religion. But man, that is crazy radical stuff.
00:09:37.900 Thinking that you don't know if it's anti-indigenous to burn down an indigenous community's
00:09:42.820 church, a church that basically only indigenous people use, and that you've targeted as a
00:09:47.640 institution within that community that people rely on.
00:09:50.840 I don't know if he, I mean, I haven't heard him debate, you know, anti-indigenous violence when
00:09:57.180 he talks about residential school denialism.
00:10:00.400 What does she mean by denialism? That, like, the people running around saying there was hundreds
00:10:05.080 of children buried underneath church grounds, and they were wrong after they actually started
00:10:09.560 extivating. That's what she thinks is residential school denialism. What does she mean by the
00:10:15.380 anti-indigenous violence of that? So, and here's the thing with the left. They consider words they
00:10:21.400 disagree with, even if those words are correct, to be more violent than actively burning down churches.
00:10:28.380 That is more anti-indigenous, is having a correct view that certain hype around mass graves were 0.98
00:10:36.840 obviously wrong. As wrong as residential schools are, you can't just make things up, because if 1.00
00:10:43.160 anything, it just cheapens the tragedy of what happened in the past, the oppression of what happened
00:10:47.720 in the past, to make up stuff about it today. And if anything, she's being anti-indigenous by claiming
00:10:53.640 that facts about history are anti-indigenous. And again, nobody, especially Garnett Genuille, has argued
00:11:00.840 that residential schools were good. Full stop, nobody has done that. But in order to weasel her 1.00
00:11:06.920 way out of actually giving a straight answer, condemning churches being burned to the ground,
00:11:13.320 she is pretending that words are violence, basically historical fact is violence. If you even, if you
00:11:19.400 deny that something happened when it factually did not happen because it's surrounding a tragedy or some
00:11:25.320 historical oppression and like, you know, abuse, that means that you're somehow being anti-indigenous.
00:11:31.960 Absolutely nutty.
00:11:32.920 So, and you know, I know what the motivation is for that. I know where it's coming from,
00:11:38.520 they're very public about it. I don't have the facts, so I can't...
00:11:42.680 I don't think she has many facts at all. And not just on this topic, I don't think she has many facts on
00:11:48.040 any topic. Assume the motive. That's the, that's a basic premise in law. I think as legislators,
00:11:55.160 we can understand... I'm sorry, but she just has a dumb look on her face. It's this person just acting 0.99
00:12:00.040 bubble-headed and empty-headed. I don't have a, I don't have a motivation to talk about. Oh,
00:12:04.920 there's no motivation for me to speak on right now. Well, why are you calling people anti-indigenous
00:12:10.440 for merely stating that a lot of the issues around mass graves were factually incorrect? How do you know
00:12:17.320 their motives? Understand that basic premise in law that I can't, I can't read into an action
00:12:25.480 where I have no facts. And I don't know what the motive is. Maybe he should do some research.
00:12:32.440 Maybe he would understand potential motives. Or he could talk to officials. Just talking until she's 0.68
00:12:39.480 done talking. Until she no longer has to answer anymore. She is just filibustering the questions so
00:12:45.240 that she doesn't actually have to take them seriously. Disgusting. People like this should 1.00
00:12:49.720 be removed from parliament in the next election. Like, obviously not like, you know, like, illegally
00:12:54.840 removed. Although she probably would assume I mean that if I didn't clarify. I just want to see which,
00:12:59.960 what the polling looks like for Winnipeg Center right now. The projections. I hope that we will not
00:13:06.360 be seeing her after next election. Winnipeg Center. Oh, goodness. Oh, goodness. She's not going anywhere.
00:13:14.440 They give her an average of 62% for the next election in terms of likely turnout. They only
00:13:21.000 give the Conservatives 12% in that area. Insane. Yeah. Well, whatever. Facebook message me. I will attack
00:13:29.320 them for that later. Anyways, that should be it for me today. I'll, you know, come up with another video 0.88
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